Off Topic: Kerry's Non-Stance on Everything

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MasZive said:
This whole thread is hilarious.

Hey fuck Kerry, fuck Bush and anybody they roll with and shit...

This whole thing, dicussing it makes me sick to my stomach and not even proud to be and American. Yeah I said it, but it'd take me an hour of talking to get you all to understand what I mean when I say that. I mean, forreal, I dont want Bush back in office, but I dont want Kerry in there trying to manipulate what Bush has already put in place and make everything alright. No one can please everybody, and I have to admit, as a black mann I am satisfied with Bush Quacker, and I wouldn't trust Kerry in a million years to bring our troops home. See I aint no selfish mofo when it comes to my views. Most [black] people bitch and moan about Bush, but that's because they cant think out of the box, and all they want is handouts like the presidents gonna send them a grand in the mail and they are happy. It takes time to accomplish things, and yes, Bush hasn't stood firm on 2 things he's said and I joke all the time about how if they'd give a president a checklist of 10 things to accomplish in a year, then we'd have a new president every year... But when it comes to Bush and Kerry, I dont even want to vote. This is a "best of the worst" situation that we are in, but when it's all said and done, Bush is the better man. So, I can understand it when it was said just dont vote for either, because if whoever you voted for ended up like the way Bush did, you'd probably feel as guilty for putting him in office if something did go wrong. Imma keep it on the real for that one. And I belive that it'd only get better, because Bush has a lot of trust to gain back from the Americans.

Now where's my check... Heh, heh, heh...
Yo I'm feelin everything you said, exactly!
 
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My opinion... maybe a lil ramble...

soulwinnerrj said:
Besides, any man that believes that abortion is "a woman's right to choose" does not deserve to be the leader of the Free World. The Democratic party is so quick to call it "a woman's right", when in reality it needs to be stated plainly as baby killing. Dress it up however you like... it will always be exactly that: murder.

The war and everything else aside... abortion is the deciding factor on how I vote! Say what you like about Prez Bush, but he is a God-fearing man and it is hard to find that kind of man in the world we live in.
First of all ...lets talk about the Free World...wtf is it? Is it from the American perspective? What is it? I don't really have a comprehensive definiton for it and I dont want someone to be a jackass and look up the words in the dictionary and explain what they mean individually...i know their individual definitions and connotations, BUT as a unit I am not totally sure what it means.. does it mean the rich world versus the third world? what?

And by the way, why should he not be able to lead the Free World? His wouldbe predecessor believed in "retard killing" or what "... it will always be ... murder."

Hmm... a "woman's right to choose" is the democrats war cry on this issue ... the republicans have one too... its "right to life"
1).... you cant hate on any of the politicians for doing what they are supposed to be doing in their respective clans .. thats their "game"... they have to say certain things and act a certain way ... its theatrics.... just like a lot of life for most everyone. Its so much about the face you envoke in our society.
2) i personally see the abortion issue not as a woman's right to choose , but as the religious right not having the "right" to enforce their view on the entire society... its all semantics as to when life begins and has nothing to do with a woman's body...thats sounds more like a cop out to me for the female (and the male)... ... i dont believe in abortions, but im not gonna make people take my stance...
3) i hate the hipocrisy ... "right to life" ... wtf ... i dont wanna kill a baby or a baby before it becomes a baby or an inutero fetus ... or yada yada... I mean... I've heard it said that abortion can be terminating something that has the potential for life....think of how many of those harmless lil sperm you kill when ya shoot... spermicide.... and damn..those women killing those eggs (of course im exaggerating) fucking menstration... ... ...well.. i wandered to the side of the topic..but.. .. to get back to the "right to life" .... so... an unborn baby cant be killed...but somehow capital punishment is a good thing...or you can go to war and kill people...and its honorable...(i hope that whomever wrote this quote above would be a "Conscientious Objector")... ALL life should be as sacred as other life!... you cant weed out bad life from good life.

Hmm...that God fearing thing always gets me... Why should FEAR be the motivation of an individual..this nation is run on fear......Besides that... more life has been decimated and ravaged in the name of God than any reason other reason in history... How many crusades have there been (including our presidents current one apparently)? Some could even make the argument that Osama and the rest of the Muslim terrorists/fundamentalists are some of the most devout people in the world...I mean... they believe they are doing God's work in a sense. They are fighting against injustices that have been done upon them and their families and their people and their religion and their beliefs. Its a Holy War. (Hmm...sounds familiar...hmm...what place in the world today has a real good chance of being a terrorist breeeding ground...i wonder..hmm...it just slips my mind.)We had our own terrorists too back in the inception of our country (Sons of Liberty, for example)... Perhaps this is a Terrorist Revolution against what they see as an attack on their "way of life" and how they believe life should be lived.


Oh yeah...and please don't spout this BS about how God fearing men are hard to find. That just isnt true. (Why is it that Churches don't pay taxes? .. esp. if they want to tell there paritioners that it is a sin to vote for someone that believes in abortion and meddle in political afairs..anyway...) Why is that the best quality that a person can have? Why can a president allude to God choosing him for the office? Why do most successful political figures (in America) have to show how religious they are to be considered viable candidates for any office if God isnt so present in our political system and our society? Why can't the best of qualities be treating others with respect and love not because its what God says but because its an innate human quality not based in fear of Gods Wrath? (i know someone is gonna say that God made us in his image yada yada...but... not everyone believes in God and yet somehow awesome people have found a way to bring out an innate goodness without envoking God or working for his glory... and are prolly going to hell cause they arent Christian.)

Why is the Bible considered so holy?
The Catholic Church crafted it initially together from tons of scripture, fitting together the stories that told the story they wanted to convey and not using parts that conflicted. Does anyone remember that money was the root of all evil from the bible(Jesus throwing the money lenders out of the temple, etc.) and yet in our capitalistic society it is worshipped as a source of power and wealth and being successful. Everyone in this country is working for this American dream. Somehow at the same time utopian ideals are looked down upon (ie. socialism and communism) which in their basis are essentially very good things: Everyone working not for the good of themselves and their individual wealth, but for the good of everyone as a whole, doing their part... but those ideals dont account for the greed of "(hu)man" and "(hu)man(ity's)" materialism. What does it say on the "Almighty" dollar?..."In God We Trust"....wtf is that about?
Does anyone remember Sodom and Gamora? All you people who have ever put a penis in a butt...even if it is a woman... u guys must be evil sinners that deserve to go to hell and you can go to jail in most states for it in this world and then have it done unto you has you have done unto others. I'm not gonna even start (REALLY) on the sanctity of marriage bullshit and the rising level of divorces and adultery/infidelity.
It seems as if we pick and choose what we see as evil from the bible. You shouldn't do something just cause you're taught that way. You should do something cause its what you know to be the right thing to do. That is why you have a thought process. The learning is in the doing, not the being taught. Of course that ideal is rather utopian in itself as well, but hey..wishful thinking.

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I didnt think that Kerry was that good of a choice initially. I used to be an "as long as it not Bush" voter. As this campaign has wore on I have changed that opinon. I guess I'm a flip flopper. I looked at the two candidates. And the more I looked the more I see a Presidential John Kerry. George Bush has never looked like a President or talked like one. I seriously would love to have a thoughtful president, someone who conveys solidarity in their voice and their facial features and doesnt get flustered easily. Everyone who supports Bush gets so giddy over what he did after 9/11...what did he do that was so special? i didnt see anything that a number of other more qualified candidates could have done in his place..well..except they could have done what he had promised (and didnt deliver) and been a "uniter not a divider." How split is this fucking country when it should have become more cohesive after such a tragedy? Not to say that he hasnt done a few good things, but... on a whole I don't see him as a viable sitting president.

Lotsa people see Bush as "one of us." He's a "good ole boy", etc etc. Why should that be the marker of the leader of the "Free World." Why can't we have someone who is intellectual in office? Is it too much to set the bar of expectation for the President of the United States a little higher?
The President's Job is a thinking man's job. Of course this is my individual opinion.



Oh yeah...and could someone please tell me why "liberal" (open minded) is a BAD word and "conservative" (close minded) is so GOOD. I don't really see either of the two as totally good or bad. You have to mix the two points of view together, but i tend to be a lil more liberal (open minded).

That is ALL...(i know i made some grammatical errors...sorry)
 
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shep said:
clinton wasn't lying about why we went to war... he was just lying about a bj

......yea i guess there is such a huge difference...
...hey...your right...its no big deal he lied under oath...
....shit if i would have done it...i would have gotten away with it too...i guess...

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JLMACN said:
......yea i guess there is such a huge difference...
...hey...your right...its no big deal he lied under oath...
....shit if i would have done it...i would have gotten away with it too...i guess...

5000
give me a fuckin break
did Clinton's lie cause anyone to die?
but FUCK our fallen brothers
you aint there hunh?

look at the fuck
http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00244.wmv
 
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MizeryU said:
give me a fuckin break
did Clinton's lie cause anyone to die?
but FUCK our fallen brothers
you aint there hunh?

look at the fuck
http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00244.wmv
LMAO!! THIS IS WHO YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR?? LMAO!! I RATHER HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT CHANGES HIS MIND ON FAX THEN NOT KNOWING WHAT THE HELL HE IS TALKING ABOUT!! I LAUGH AT THIS SHIT I LOVE IT!!:devious: VOTE THE WAY YOU WAN'T IM JUST PUTTING IN MY 2CENTS
 
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Kerry is a globalist.

He wants the UN to control the country basically, so why would you want to be a president of a country when you're just going to give control to someone else anyhow?
 
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Zer0.MediA said:
Kerry is a globalist.

He wants the UN to control the country basically, so why would you want to be a president of a country when you're just going to give control to someone else anyhow?
No No No you got it wrong man. What he want's to do is when it comes down to GLOBAL TERRORISM the UN SHOULD be involved with it. It's not just happening to us there are other countries besides us that is going threw this too. Just addin' 2 more cent's
 
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DaSlacker said:
The UN would control the country LOL... thats the funniest shit Ive ever...
Never mind it's either you don't understand what I'm saying or you won't understand what im saying. But vote for who ever fits you best i'm not trying to change any bodies mind just throwing 2pennies in the well.
 
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What is wrong with being a globalist?

Kerry does not want the UN to control the country, but he wants the actions of this country to be civilized and worthwhile. He does not want a country where the ends justify the means and the rest of the world is thought of as just un-American. Basically, he doesnt see America as a country where the leaders can say if you don't like us(or what we do)... Fuck You! He wants the country(the way the country treats the rest of the world) to be respectful. And its not like this country has exactly been that good to the world around it. What did Bush say when he was campaigning in 2000? He talked about bringing honor and decency and morals back to the White House. Basically, thats what Kerry is campaigning for, but in a different perspective. He wants to repare our reputation in the world.

In this day and age everyone's life is affected on a global aspect and it gets like that more and more every day. Why shouldn't our soldiers be sent to an international war crimes tribunal? It was good enough for the German soldiers that took orders from the higher in command in WWII. Thats besides the point. The UN is a symbol of the globalization of the world and Kerry wants to see the world become more amalgamated.

"For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's futures, and we are all mortal."
----John F. Kennedy, Speech at The American University, Washington, D.C., June 10, 1963
 
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John Z said:
Kerry does not want the UN to control the country, but he wants the actions of this country to be civilized and worthwhile. He does not want a country where the ends justify the means and the rest of the world is thought of as just un-American. Basically, he doesnt see America as a country where the leaders can say if you don't like us(or what we do)... Fuck You! He wants the country(the way the country treats the rest of the world) to be respectful. And its not like this country has exactly been that good to the world around it. What did Bush say when he was campaigning in 2000? He talked about bringing honor and decency and morals back to the White House. Basically, thats what Kerry is campaigning for, but in a different perspective. He wants to repare our reputation in the world.

In this day and age everyone's life is affected on a global aspect and it gets like that more and more every day. Why shouldn't our soldiers be sent to an international war crimes tribunal? It was good enough for the German soldiers that took orders from the higher in command in WWII. Thats besides the point. The UN is a symbol of the globalization of the world and Kerry wants to see the world become more amalgamated.

"For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's futures, and we are all mortal."
----John F. Kennedy, Speech at The American University, Washington, D.C., June 10, 1963
My point exactly
 
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MizeryU said:
give me a fuckin break
did Clinton's lie cause anyone to die?
but FUCK our fallen brothers
you aint there hunh?

look at the fuck
http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00244.wmv

dont feed me that Liberal Bullshit!!!!..
....if you expect me to feel sorry for soldiers that 'wanted to be in the military'....i wont..
....im not sayin i dont care....hey its a bad thang...people loose their lives...
....but dont give me that....

....'if you dont want to fight in a war...or any war....DONT SIGN UP FOR ANY MILITARY DUTY!!!!!

its that simple..
....

liberals...

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No No No you got it wrong man. What he want's to do is when it comes down to GLOBAL TERRORISM the UN SHOULD be involved with it. It's not just happening to us there are other countries besides us that is going threw this too. Just addin' 2 more cent's
So the UN should tell America what to do because they haver our best interests in mind, right? Well then why have a United States government at all if we also need a babysitter?

The UN would control the country LOL... thats the funniest shit Ive ever...
That's essentially what Kerry is getting at, IMO.
The UN is a symbol of the globalization of the world and Kerry wants to see the world become more amalgamated.
So you agree with me that Kerry is a globalist. Thanks. Perhaps everyone in the world should speak the same language and use the same currency and then the UN can just appoint global leaders. Sounds cool.



But now today Kerry is a hunter. LoL. This guy is dying to be republican.
 
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Quote: "But now today Kerry is a hunter. LoL. This guy is dying to be republican." Quote


I saw that shit on the news... anyone can hunt; it doesn't matter who you are! It's like today was his day to please members of the NRA. Funny thing tho... does he really think that hunters are dumb enough to see him hunting and that in turn will make them want to vote for him? I certainly hope not!!
 
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Zer0.MediA said:
So the UN should tell America what to do because they haver our best interests in mind, right? Well then why have a United States government at all if we also need a babysitter?



That's essentially what Kerry is getting at, IMO.

So you agree with me that Kerry is a globalist. Thanks. Perhaps everyone in the world should speak the same language and use the same currency and then the UN can just appoint global leaders. Sounds cool.



But now today Kerry is a hunter. LoL. This guy is dying to be republican.
To me I think if we just keep out of other countries buisness and just work on our flaws and needs in this country we will be the best in the world (not just currency and freedom). No we don't need a baby sitter, If we get into deep shit (like we are now) the UN can jump in and help us, cause BUSH (I don't know if you knew but BUSH broke some of the agreement's with the UN and RUSSIA) is just all over the wrong place (the wepons of mass destruction is in Korea the man said so his self). And this whole "LEAVE NO CHILD BEHIND" bull shit is not really working. In kentwood (city in michigan) the teachers are being ripped off and are going on strike for the 3rd yr in a row, kids aren't getting the write programs and supply's they need in the class rooms. EastKentwood (the high school I attended) Spent have a million dollars that they recieved from that shit and spent it on a football field?? And not just michigan is going through that shit either SEAN COMBS used his own money to give schools in NEW YORK brand new books, those kids had books before I was even thought of. All the republicans are really doing is keeping the RICH RICHER, THE MIDDLE CLASS POOR and the POOR POORER (thats just my thought). I don't hate BUSH I just hate the decisions he made and have not accomplished. Only reason why he was in office is to finsh what his father started. Oh yea another thing about this whole "WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" WE GAVE THEM THOSE WEPONS oh now their to dangerous, we left those wepons there after helping them against I think it was RUSSIA?? Why haven't we found OSSAMA BENLADIN yet?? BECAUSE THE BUSH FAMILY OWS THE BENLADIN FAMILY MONEY!!:devious: Thats why we have not caught that fucker yet oh we know were his punk ass it just won't be broad casted lmao!! And about those be-heading videos when their heads are cut off why don't they bleed?? lmao just some shit for ya'll to think about. Two more pennies in the penny jar:cool:
 
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Zer0.MediA said:
That's essentially what Kerry is getting at, IMO.

No. The UN is :basically: a global alliance of soveriegn nations. A group of leaders who decide on things that affect the whole globe, like war for instance. For as long as I can remember the president has agreed with the UN on these matters... but not this president. He threw that alliance right out the door. This isnt "Command & Conquer." In real life many countries need alliances to stay functional.
 

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Sowlstar, you must have seen that documentary by Michael Moore titled: Farenheit 9/11. I agree w/ you about why we havn't caught that Bin Laden Son of Bitch yet. To all you Bush lovers out there, I suggest if you havn't seen that documentary yet to peep it, it might just change ones mind.