OBAMA AND THE DEMS...WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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I couldn't be like Hannity, or Limbaugh for that matter...simply because I don't take sides. I listen first, form my decision after. I can be liberal, I can be conservative...depending on the issue.
everything ive seen from you has been conservative.

For one, this country was FOUNDED on the Christian faith. I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying it's wrong...but it is a FACT! I read the Newsweek article, and it offered no insight as to what percentage of the United States is still Christian. It was 86%, then it declined. STILL, more than HALF of the US is Christian...either way you look at it. As of 2008, 25.1% are Catholic, 15.8% are Baptist, 14.2% are generic Christian, 12.9% are mainline protestant, 3.5% are pentecostal, 3.1% protestant denominations, 1.4% Mormon...that's 76%. That doesn't include the people they DIDN'T ASK! It's a survey, and there's no way in hell they asked 300,000+ people...I know they didn't ask me.
are you under the impression that theres only around 300k people in the USA? and that if they asked that many people some how you would automatically be gaurenteed to be in it?


In any case, Obama is not letting our Capitalist economy run it's course. He is taking OUR money, and giving it to other people in order to "re-up" the economy, which doesn't work with Capitalism.
conservative bs, how much do you make in a year?


He's sucking the dick of communist leaders (such as Castro), he's going to cut our defense system (which will fuck us if North Korea is really practicing for a missile attack).
you mean the missile defense system that has been a failure since its inception decades ago? that one that has been a waste of billions of dollars? you're talking about that defense system? didn't you bring this point up before and get schooled on it with this same response? to which you responded "well im not going to pretend i know anything about the defense system but"... arent you THAT guy? lol




I'm not really saying he's a communist....YET! But I am saying that he has some communist ideals (if not extremely SOCIALIST), and if you don't see that then I feel sorry for you.
stop watching fox news.

He's now stepping in and telling businesses what to do, which is a no no in this country. Business and government are supposed to be separate, and telling somebody to resign is not the place of the President.
If they want to take the bailout, then youre damn right they need to be told what to do.

Now, if you want to debate, all good. If you want to be disrespectful, miss me with it. I didn't come on here saying anything negative towards you, so I don't expect you to do that to me. I can respect your opinion, so respect mine.

if you want to debate, all good. but you might want to bring your brain with you and not fox news excerpts.
 

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Sydal, what is wrong with the U.S. fixing their diplomatic relationships with Cuba?

please explain....
There's absolutely nothing wrong with fixing diplomatic relations. But there is something wrong with fixing relations with a dictator that doesn't give a fuck about anybody in this country. You think Castro respects Obama? Naw...I got money that says Castro sees Obama as a puppet.

I'm all for fixing shit, but you have to be careful while you do it. The last time we trusted people, they used the training and weapons we gave them against us.
 
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Some of you people think this Bail Out Money is free, it's not free!

Big companies will eventually pay that shit once the economy becomes stable again...
 
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I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WERE NOT MORE MAD AT BUSH,FOR RUNNING OUR COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE.I MEAN DAM GIVE OBAMA ATLEAST TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU START JUDGEING HIM,AND WHAT HE'S DONE FOR THE COUNTRY.ONE THING I DONT LIKE IS BAILING OUT ALL THESE COMPANY'S THATS BULLSHIT.
 
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obama is trying to patch relations with countries that despise the U.S. i think its a good thing. like it was said, 8 years of madness cant be fixed in 3 months.

he's telling businesses that are using tax payers dollars to stay afloat what to do. why? because they are misusing funds.

thats not communism, thats whats right.
 
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It is time to look at a new direction in our foreign policy,' said Lee.

'The 50-year embargo just hasn't worked, and American citizens should have the right to travel to Cuba. It's in our economic interest to do business with Cuba,' Lee said.

Cuba's retired leader Fidel Castro said Wednesday that while he believes US President Barack Obama's intentions towards Cuba are 'sincere,' they clash with the 'objective reality' within the United States.

seriously, think about it..
 

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There's absolutely nothing wrong with fixing diplomatic relations. But there is something wrong with fixing relations with a dictator that doesn't give a fuck about anybody in this country. You think Castro respects Obama? Naw...I got money that says Castro sees Obama as a puppet.

I'm all for fixing shit, but you have to be careful while you do it. The last time we trusted people, they used the training and weapons we gave them against us.
Is Obama planning on giving training and weapons to Cuba?
 
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I couldn't be like Hannity, or Limbaugh for that matter...simply because I don't take sides. I listen first, form my decision after. I can be liberal, I can be conservative...depending on the issue. And why the foul ass words towards me? You act like I just ran your dog over.
Foul ass words for a foul ass point of view. Get over it.

For one, this country was FOUNDED on the Christian faith. I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying it's wrong...but it is a FACT! I read the Newsweek article, and it offered no insight as to what percentage of the United States is still Christian. It was 86%, then it declined. STILL, more than HALF of the US is Christian...either way you look at it. As of 2008, 25.1% are Catholic, 15.8% are Baptist, 14.2% are generic Christian, 12.9% are mainline protestant, 3.5% are pentecostal, 3.1% protestant denominations, 1.4% Mormon...that's 76%. That doesn't include the people they DIDN'T ASK! It's a survey, and there's no way in hell they asked 300,000+ people...I know they didn't ask me.
How is any of that relevant? How is what Obama said about this country's religious stance relevant? Did it offend you? Fact of the matter is, this country is rapidly becoming a DIVERSE religious, multicultural nation. That was his point. He wants other nations to understand that this country isn't what bush probably made it seem (bunch of gun toting, bible carrying, ignorant, racist hicks). So could you please explain to me how that is a BAD thing?

In any case, Obama is not letting our Capitalist economy run it's course. He is taking OUR money, and giving it to other people in order to "re-up" the economy, which doesn't work with Capitalism.
He took your money?!! How?? When?? Did he sneak in your house and break into your safe? Or did he pick pocket you?

lol@which doesn't work with capitalism. Answer me this: is capitalism working right now?

He's sucking the dick of communist leaders (such as Castro), he's going to cut our defense system (which will fuck us if North Korea is really practicing for a missile attack).
North Korea cant even set the clock on their VCR!!! Have you been FOLLOWING their "nuclear progress"?
And how, exactly, is he "sucking the dick of communist leaders"? By making friends rather than allies, like Bush did?


I'm not really saying he's a communist....YET! But I am saying that he has some communist ideals (if not extremely SOCIALIST), and if you don't see that then I feel sorry for you.
YOU feel sorry for ME?! Dog, I know what communism is and Obama hasn't done anything that would remotely resemble a communist action. You have yet to provide any evidence that he has. Please elaborate on these communist or *ahem* EXTREMLY socialist decisions? Id love to hear them.

He's now stepping in and telling businesses what to do, which is a no no in this country. Business and government are supposed to be separate, and telling somebody to resign is not the place of the President.
You're right.. Why should the president of our country take action on our republican-induced economic crisis.
He's telling him to resign because he ran one of the most important companies in the US into the fucking ground! You want him to give him a raise? Suck HIS dick, instead of all these communists that he's supposedly blowing?

Look, Buffett, I know what capitalism is. You're not wooing anybody by pointing out the separation between government and business. HOWEVER, business isn't exactly working right now, is it? No it isnt. Bush and the republican part saw to that.

Now, if you want to debate, all good. If you want to be disrespectful, miss me with it. I didn't come on here saying anything negative towards you, so I don't expect you to do that to me. I can respect your opinion, so respect mine.
Sorry, bro, I just cant respect your opinion when you just regurgitate shit you hear on fox news and rush limbaugh's talk show.
 
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I'm surprised we haven't seen Collapse post yet.



Check out some of the vids i posted. Post a response on at least the short one. I know the Economic Hit Man videos are very long, but its very interesting.
 
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I almost didnt wana watch that video you posted 5 dime for the simple fact that I saw Fox News on it.........

Of Course Obama is not going to be the grand savior and resolve all of this country's problems but I guess he has made some "progress"

He has lifted the ban on stem cell research

He did talk to the world leaders in the G-20 and was not quite successful in getting what he wanted but its his first convention with them and we stil have yet to see in the next 4 or 8 years how these talks are going to progress

He has also been threathened with blackmail by republicans if he releases the Bush War Crime memos.They really dont want right now because their image is really bad right now and they are build their name up again by playing devils advocate with all of obamas decisions and hoping that he will fail they will like the ones that said "told you so"
 

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everything ive seen from you has been conservative.
Well you obviously haven't seen everything from me, because I argue with conservative views as well.


are you under the impression that theres only around 300k people in the USA? and that if they asked that many people some how you would automatically be gaurenteed to be in it?
I fixed that before you responded...I know it's 300 Million...it was a typo.



conservative bs, how much do you make in a year?
What I make in a year has nothing to do with my views. If you make the money, they take it...no matter what party you identify with.

you mean the missile defense system that has been a failure since its inception decades ago? that one that has been a waste of billions of dollars? you're talking about that defense system? didn't you bring this point up before and get schooled on it with this same response? to which you responded "well im not going to pretend i know anything about the defense system but"... arent you THAT guy? lol
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I know somebody that works on those missiles, and from what I understand his last few launches have been highly successful. What do I know, though? I wasn't there.

stop watching fox news.
I don't.



If they want to take the bailout, then youre damn right they need to be told what to do.
They didn't need the bailout, that's what Bankruptcy is for. It's called corporate restructuring.



if you want to debate, all good. but you might want to bring your brain with you and not fox news excerpts.
Again, my brain is right here. I don't even watch Fox News. In fact, the last time I watched Fox News, I wrote Bill O' Reilly an e-mail telling him how full of shit he is.
 
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Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I know somebody that works on those missiles, and from what I understand his last few launches have been highly successful. What do I know, though? I wasn't there.

Oh it definitely was.... and all of a sudden now you know someone that works on those missiles, and they're highly successful now... okay so since they're highly successful they don't need as much r&d money, they can fine tune what they have... right? oh well there goes your argument.

oh wait... they've been fine tuning the garbage and its been highly successful... and still a failure, for decades now.... they just need a few more billion and we'll be there!


...when we could of created a completely new system that actually works and wasnt based on faulty research 5xs over by now.

you can flower up a piece of shit all you want, but its still a piece of shit.