Hold your horses. First off you seem to be talking about 'yall' and about 'idiots.' Since the only people responding to you are Fatal and myself im guessing some how im one of those idiots. I have never said any shit to you, nor have i called you an idiot. Now if you are going to be calling me an idiot because you are smarter than I am then you might want to rethink that. Im not an idiot and as far as intelligence you couldnt match wits with me. If you are not talking to be and are referring to some other 'idiot,' one whom i didnt see then i'm sorry and i didnt mean to come at you sideways, this post is under the assumption that you are referring to me.
NORTENO RAP IN THE BAY/SAC v.s. NORTENO RAP IN THE VALLEY
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my bad SJN this shit got way outta hand i was callin anyone who couldnt comprehend my meanin of chicano rapper an idiot......actually more like fatal cuz he cant be man enough ta leave it be he has to go all sideways on niggaz n shit......
I aint got shit against none of yall.....and no i dont think its ok ta talk shit only cuz its online i feel that anything you say on here can be used against you on the streets and im prepared for any consequences that someone may try ta bring.......if people didnt even start these bullshit arguements none of this would be said.....anyways bottom line we got our opinions on whats better music and i aint sayin no more cuz the paper will speak for itself in the long run.....
I aint got shit against none of yall.....and no i dont think its ok ta talk shit only cuz its online i feel that anything you say on here can be used against you on the streets and im prepared for any consequences that someone may try ta bring.......if people didnt even start these bullshit arguements none of this would be said.....anyways bottom line we got our opinions on whats better music and i aint sayin no more cuz the paper will speak for itself in the long run.....
First off, if you talk or act black thats on you. People bring up the Mission, but thats how their raised. Theres alot of Black influence in the bay so of course Mexicans, like in Oakland or Frisco are gonna absorb it cuz they're around it so much.
My comment about disregarding your race is in response to what Ccytzo said about "chicano style" not selling. If you're a Chicano and and use the slang in your rap but choose not to use it anymore because it doesn' sell is being a sell out. Being Mexican and embracing your culture or race doesn't sell in mainstream America.
Someone brought up how using some spanish or rapping from a Chicanos perspetive in rap limits an audience. Then why did the Dr. Dre's the Chronic sell 5xPlatinum and on it talks about the Blacks riotting in Los Angeles, being a minority, racism against blacks? Ice Cube was a Muslim, and at one point was anti-white yet he managed to sell millions and those millions of consumers werent all black Muslims.
The reason is because, right now the dominant culture or influence here is Black.
My comment about disregarding your race is in response to what Ccytzo said about "chicano style" not selling. If you're a Chicano and and use the slang in your rap but choose not to use it anymore because it doesn' sell is being a sell out. Being Mexican and embracing your culture or race doesn't sell in mainstream America.
Someone brought up how using some spanish or rapping from a Chicanos perspetive in rap limits an audience. Then why did the Dr. Dre's the Chronic sell 5xPlatinum and on it talks about the Blacks riotting in Los Angeles, being a minority, racism against blacks? Ice Cube was a Muslim, and at one point was anti-white yet he managed to sell millions and those millions of consumers werent all black Muslims.
The reason is because, right now the dominant culture or influence here is Black.
Looking at the web address, the site I'm on is the Siccness.net. To my knowledge Woodie and Lil Los don't use nigga in their raps. Lou-E-Lou has some tight songs but I wasn't feeling his solo or hearing "nigga" all the time. Droop is average, I traded in both his solos. And I never said collaborating with or having black homeboys is trying to be black.
First off, its aruable that the Bay is a household name. Maybe at one time. And sales do not equal talent. By your thinking MC Hammer and Vannilla Ice put out better music than the bay. And I don't think Kee or Woodie are selling millions. They're underground just like X-Raided and Darkroom Familia.
First off, its aruable that the Bay is a household name. Maybe at one time. And sales do not equal talent. By your thinking MC Hammer and Vannilla Ice put out better music than the bay. And I don't think Kee or Woodie are selling millions. They're underground just like X-Raided and Darkroom Familia.
So using spanish slang makes you sound 1985?
Heres some tight Chicano rappers and albums you can hear them on.
Buster Brown (Cuete, THC, Da Game Pay$, Droops Bootlegs & B-Sides)
Tokztero (Pen Chances, GUN, Cuete, Veteranos, Blood n Tears)
Lenyo Loc (Cali Thuggin, Funk On Site Comp)
Ju Ju Loks (Gang Stories, Cuete)
Baby Boy Ene (Gang Banger)
Heres some tight Chicano rappers and albums you can hear them on.
Buster Brown (Cuete, THC, Da Game Pay$, Droops Bootlegs & B-Sides)
Tokztero (Pen Chances, GUN, Cuete, Veteranos, Blood n Tears)
Lenyo Loc (Cali Thuggin, Funk On Site Comp)
Ju Ju Loks (Gang Stories, Cuete)
Baby Boy Ene (Gang Banger)
No the delivery sounds 1985....when the ryhme scheme is very simple....ryhmin one syllable words like....."im a down ass gangster you just a prankster" shit like that....anyone can rap like that it dont take much talent.....but to some its the greatest shit so thas their opinion they can buy it all they want....but for someone to say lyrics like that are better than say a rappers like X-Raideds or Mr Kees or any rapper that has a real ryhme scheme goin is just being stupid cuz regardless of opinion skills are skills......
GOTTA GIVE IT UP TO ALL MY NORTHERN REPRESENTAZ
I DONT GIVE A SHYT WHAT ALL THIS POST IS REFLECTIN ON I LOVED THE G.U.N CD TO THA FULLEST AND CONTINUE TO BUMP IT LIKE IT JUST CAME OUT YESTERDAY . IT BRINGS BACK MANY MEMORIES BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND FOOZ LOST THA FOCUS ON JUST REPEN ALL U GOT AND THATS THE MOTHERFUCKIN HOOD FOOZ WANNABE BALLED OUT OR DOPED OUT AND THAT SHYT AIN EVEN KOO I DONT TALK ACT OR SOUND BLACK I GOT THAT BAY LIFE MENTALITY CUZ I GREW UP IN THA BAY WERE MANY BLACK FOLKZ STAY AND RESIDE I NEVER GIVE UP MY ROOTS BUT THAT JUST HOW THA BAY IS MAYNE I GOT ALOT OF RESPECT FOR THEM VALLE CATS CUZ THEY GOT THAT OLD SKOO SHYT AND AS FOR SAC MAN THEY GOT TIGHT AZZ FLOWS THEY KINDA GOT IT LIKE THE BAY THEY GOT ALOT OF BLACK FOLKS THERE TOO JUST LIKE I SAID ITS WHERE U GROW UP THAT DETERMINES WHAT REFLECTION OTHER CATS FROM DIFFERENT SPOT MAY PORTRAY OF U AND UR STYLETHOSE ARE PETTY DIFERENCES THAT NEED TO BE SET ASIDE AND NEED TO GET BACK TO THA MAYNE FOCUS SUPORTING UR FELLOW CARNALES AND BRINGIN OUR GENTE UP. ITS LIKE THIS WE LIKE CRUSIN AND BALCK LOVE TO JUST WHIP DONUTS IN THA INETERSECTION SO WE COLLAB STYLES AND GOT SYDESHOWS ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT U ARE A PRODUCT OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS.
I DONT GIVE A SHYT WHAT ALL THIS POST IS REFLECTIN ON I LOVED THE G.U.N CD TO THA FULLEST AND CONTINUE TO BUMP IT LIKE IT JUST CAME OUT YESTERDAY . IT BRINGS BACK MANY MEMORIES BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND FOOZ LOST THA FOCUS ON JUST REPEN ALL U GOT AND THATS THE MOTHERFUCKIN HOOD FOOZ WANNABE BALLED OUT OR DOPED OUT AND THAT SHYT AIN EVEN KOO I DONT TALK ACT OR SOUND BLACK I GOT THAT BAY LIFE MENTALITY CUZ I GREW UP IN THA BAY WERE MANY BLACK FOLKZ STAY AND RESIDE I NEVER GIVE UP MY ROOTS BUT THAT JUST HOW THA BAY IS MAYNE I GOT ALOT OF RESPECT FOR THEM VALLE CATS CUZ THEY GOT THAT OLD SKOO SHYT AND AS FOR SAC MAN THEY GOT TIGHT AZZ FLOWS THEY KINDA GOT IT LIKE THE BAY THEY GOT ALOT OF BLACK FOLKS THERE TOO JUST LIKE I SAID ITS WHERE U GROW UP THAT DETERMINES WHAT REFLECTION OTHER CATS FROM DIFFERENT SPOT MAY PORTRAY OF U AND UR STYLETHOSE ARE PETTY DIFERENCES THAT NEED TO BE SET ASIDE AND NEED TO GET BACK TO THA MAYNE FOCUS SUPORTING UR FELLOW CARNALES AND BRINGIN OUR GENTE UP. ITS LIKE THIS WE LIKE CRUSIN AND BALCK LOVE TO JUST WHIP DONUTS IN THA INETERSECTION SO WE COLLAB STYLES AND GOT SYDESHOWS ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT U ARE A PRODUCT OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS.
ugh Dyno....half of Darkroom does.....soem can pull it off better than others but a lot of em cant.....some liek that sound i guess so its coo....but you cant say that its better as far as skills go....post up some lyrics to your favorite verses and ill do the same and youll see the difference in ryhme scheme.....Im latino but my favorite rapper is X-Raided cuz hes sicc as fucc and has come a long way improvin his skills as a rapper......
X-Raided- Whatever It Took - Unforgiven Volume I
X-Raided UP IN THIS BITCH/ down ta DISRUPT SOME SHIT/aint from the POUND but im still DOWN to KURRUPT SOME SHIT/iINTERUPT YA SHIT cuz im always in a RUSH TA SPIT/ like an AXE when i RAP i SPLIT UP YA CLICC.......
.....Its MALICIOUS how da GAME gets VISCIOUS/ n niggaz KNOW, we do ANYTHANG that GAINS us RICHES/ we quicc ta FLOW, but we jus as quicc ta BARK THAT HEAT/ START THAT BEEF/ & dot Dogg'll puase that HEART BEAT/We HARD TA BEAT.....
....You better look into my EYES/ cant you see the PAIN??? im tired of LIES/ bitches & niggaz playin GAMES/ this is my ghetto PRAYA/ Lord can you HEAR ME? protect my family from playa HATAZ/ dont let em NEAR ME/ no need ta FEAR ME/ im only HUMAN/ PERSUING DREAMS of GREENBACCS wit more SCHEMES than JR EWING/ i MEAN THAT SINCERELY/ love my ALCHOHOL & tetra hydra CANNABINOL DEARLY/ consumin 20 pounds YEARLY/ CLEARLY im out for da cash/ nuttin else in my VISION/ takin CHANCES makin DECISIONS/ that can keep me in PRISON/ but CIRCUMSTANCES/ keep demandin me to BREAK THESE LAWS/ writin lyrics strong enough ta PENETRATE THESE WALLS.....
just look at that ryhme scheme how so many words play off each other and at teh same time the whole thing makes sense and he comin wit deep shit.....post some of your favorite rap thas good as that........
X-Raided- Whatever It Took - Unforgiven Volume I
X-Raided UP IN THIS BITCH/ down ta DISRUPT SOME SHIT/aint from the POUND but im still DOWN to KURRUPT SOME SHIT/iINTERUPT YA SHIT cuz im always in a RUSH TA SPIT/ like an AXE when i RAP i SPLIT UP YA CLICC.......
.....Its MALICIOUS how da GAME gets VISCIOUS/ n niggaz KNOW, we do ANYTHANG that GAINS us RICHES/ we quicc ta FLOW, but we jus as quicc ta BARK THAT HEAT/ START THAT BEEF/ & dot Dogg'll puase that HEART BEAT/We HARD TA BEAT.....
....You better look into my EYES/ cant you see the PAIN??? im tired of LIES/ bitches & niggaz playin GAMES/ this is my ghetto PRAYA/ Lord can you HEAR ME? protect my family from playa HATAZ/ dont let em NEAR ME/ no need ta FEAR ME/ im only HUMAN/ PERSUING DREAMS of GREENBACCS wit more SCHEMES than JR EWING/ i MEAN THAT SINCERELY/ love my ALCHOHOL & tetra hydra CANNABINOL DEARLY/ consumin 20 pounds YEARLY/ CLEARLY im out for da cash/ nuttin else in my VISION/ takin CHANCES makin DECISIONS/ that can keep me in PRISON/ but CIRCUMSTANCES/ keep demandin me to BREAK THESE LAWS/ writin lyrics strong enough ta PENETRATE THESE WALLS.....
just look at that ryhme scheme how so many words play off each other and at teh same time the whole thing makes sense and he comin wit deep shit.....post some of your favorite rap thas good as that........
feel me...i aint tryin ta hate on mexican rappers or say that you need ta rap liek a blacc man....cuz that aint even teh case....X raps better than 90% of rappers from all races....cuz he got that scheme goin....its genius....and i dont care how many times someone says kill a scrapa or any a that shit it jus dont compare to them type of skills.....
IT AINT ABOUT BLACK OR BROWN ITZ ABOUT THA WAY U CAME UP
THIZ AINT NO AMERICAN ME MOVIE NIGGA THA BAY IZ THUGGED OUT WERE MUTHAFUKAZ IZ GRINDIN AND BANGIN POZTED ON BLOCKZ PUTTIN IT DOWN WE RELATE 2 A DIFFERENT ZTYLE OF LIFE VALLEY RAPPERZ KEEP DOIN WHAT U DOIN THA BAY GOTZ LOVE 4 YALL V-DUB THAT WE$TEND RIDA
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/westendrecordz.htm
THIZ AINT NO AMERICAN ME MOVIE NIGGA THA BAY IZ THUGGED OUT WERE MUTHAFUKAZ IZ GRINDIN AND BANGIN POZTED ON BLOCKZ PUTTIN IT DOWN WE RELATE 2 A DIFFERENT ZTYLE OF LIFE VALLEY RAPPERZ KEEP DOIN WHAT U DOIN THA BAY GOTZ LOVE 4 YALL V-DUB THAT WE$TEND RIDA
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/westendrecordz.htm
559 you either dont know how to read or you just dont read at all cuz i never labeled valley rap the mafucca that started this thread labled valley rap....i labeled the chicano style thas all and i was one of the first ones ta say not all mexicans from the Valley rap like that....im latino n from the valley but i dont rap like that....read my first post in this thread where i talk about my homies from Mental Illness.....and from now on try ta keep up wit the convo......or dont respond ta me at all cuz i hate repeatin myself when the shit i said is jus a clicc away.....and i could name more if i cared but honestly when i hear shit like that i dont bother checcin out who it is im usually tryin ta find somethin better ta listen to......
AINT SHIT GOING 2 BE A BIG ISSUE MUTHA FUCKAZ NEED 2 STOP BE CLOSED MINDED N OPEN UP THEY MUTHA FUCKIN EYEZ N REALIZE IT AINT DA 60'Z OR DA 70'Z ANY MORE WHEN EVERYONE WAZ CHOLOED OUT DA WORLD HAZ CHANGED SINCE THEN ITZ 2000 N MUTHA FUCKIN 4 SHIT IF YA DONT LIKE DA WAY FRISCO N OAKLAND N BAY AREA HOMEBOYZ RAP DONT BUY DA SHIT WE DONT GIVE A FUCK IF U DO OR DONT DIZ SHIT IZ JUZT A DEAD ISSUE EVERYONE AINT GOING 2 AGREE WITH WHAT I JUZT SAID BUT DATZ LIFE THERE'Z ALWAYZ GOING 2 BE PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE U CUZ OFF DA WAY U TALK N DREZZ N ITZ ALWAYZ GOING 2 BE LIKE DAT N LIKE I SAID ON MY ALBUM
PUTTING IT DOWN 2 DA FULLEST 4 DA SCO N 4 UZ BE LATIN I KNOW U HATE IT REGULATEIN WHY U ACTING LIKE HOEZ OUT THERE DEBATEING ON WHO HAZ WHOZ BACK WHOZ GONNA BUST A CAP NO TIME 4 THAT DRAMA SHIT
PUTTING IT DOWN 2 DA FULLEST 4 DA SCO N 4 UZ BE LATIN I KNOW U HATE IT REGULATEIN WHY U ACTING LIKE HOEZ OUT THERE DEBATEING ON WHO HAZ WHOZ BACK WHOZ GONNA BUST A CAP NO TIME 4 THAT DRAMA SHIT
First off no one was arguing that Dyno is the tightest rapper so you bringing him up is a bad example. Thats like me saying, "listen to Mr. Doctor, he has a simple ass flow , rhyming '6-4 and hoe' and shit like tha. so that must mean Sac rappers all flow like that.
And I'm not going to post up any lyrics cuz X-Raided is one of my favorite rappers, and I know he'd give ANY rapper a run for their money so that doesn't prove anything. X-Raided would put 2pac to shame, are you saying 2pacs style doesn't cut it? I couldn't even post up a bay rap better than X's so like I said, what does that prove?
You keep changing your story around. To me cholo style is using spanish slang in your rap. But then you say thats not Chicano style. Chicano style is rapping slow (so maybe Lynchs Loaded album was "chicano style"). So I post up rappers who definetly don't rap slow, then you change it to a contest, of who can rap better than X-Raided.
And I'm not going to post up any lyrics cuz X-Raided is one of my favorite rappers, and I know he'd give ANY rapper a run for their money so that doesn't prove anything. X-Raided would put 2pac to shame, are you saying 2pacs style doesn't cut it? I couldn't even post up a bay rap better than X's so like I said, what does that prove?
You keep changing your story around. To me cholo style is using spanish slang in your rap. But then you say thats not Chicano style. Chicano style is rapping slow (so maybe Lynchs Loaded album was "chicano style"). So I post up rappers who definetly don't rap slow, then you change it to a contest, of who can rap better than X-Raided.