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I think y'all will get the picture.. Basically if you're not established, and you don't have a HIT SONG ... NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOU ...

add some shit on if you like ..


"I got an album out" ......... Nobody Cares

"I got Yukmouth, E-40, Ice-T, NORE & Baby on my album" ....... Nobody Cares

"Next week I'm doin a song with (place name here) .." ..... Nobody Cares

"I had to get on Eminem on my shit, he think he the shit" ...... Nobody Cares

"I'm about to get signed cause my managers cousin knows the intern at Universal that gets the guys coffee that signed Nelly...." ....... Nobody Cares


Don't you hate it when you start a post and don't feel like finishing it? Y'all get the point. Add on if you like, but then again why should y'all care about me posting this shit, lol
 

FastLane/S::G

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I'm tight coz the dude who was paralyzed from the neck down said he was feelin my shit and the blind man saw me perform and told the def man who told the mute man who told the A&R @ Cash Money Records that i was tight

happy birthday by the way..... and it's been my birthday for the past week
 
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SavageC - I'm not tryin to come across as some almighty know-it-all that's better than everybody. I hope you didn't take it that way. If you did, well that's you. I'm basically speaking from what I feel is the perspective of the consumer right now. Mufuckas come on here and think by talkin their shit up and promotin it on a few message boards that it's actually going to do something .... I'm not an optimist nor a pecimist (sp?) - I'm a REALIST. I'm going to be realistic when I speak. If I unintentionally piss on a few parades, there's nothing I can do about that.

Take that album you're promoting in your sig right there for instance. That is exactly what's wrong with the shit that's coming out right now. All the way down to the logo for the graphics company. I haven't heard the album mind you, but just on how you're presenting it, I'll go out on a limb and say it more than likely won't be any different than 80% of the releases that came out this year. Shall I explain?

#1 ... First off, you're making the same mistake almost all of the releases made this year. You're trying to let the features sell the album. Gone are the days when mufuckas used to buy ANYTHING that their favorite artist featured on. That shit is over with. You're making yourself a guest on your own album. I'm tellin y'all, be your own artist. It's damn near 2003, mufuckas been tryin to sell their album based on their features since ... what? .. 96-97? If you feel that's the ONLY way for you to sell records cause your a new artist then don't quit your day job cause this shit aint for you. Not just you Savage-C, I'm speaking in general on that last point.

#2 ... The cover. How many covers are there out there with the members of the group or the solo artist superimposed in front of his/her city? C'mon man. And looking at the cover, I'm poised to ask whether this is a compilation (compilations have BEEN dead) or a group album. The name don't help either. Back to the compilation point, it's hard to tell whether the 2 guys on the cover are the 'Nocturnal Hustlers' or whether it's a comp and it's called 'Nocturnal Hustlers'. And to be honest, if the 2 cats on the cover are the 'Nocturnal Hustlers' the guy on the left loses cool points for that shirt he got on. Basically saying that it would be hard based on looks and all of the shit that's come before you guys to take y'all serious. But again, I haven't heard the music.

#3 ... To the graphics company logo. I could be wrong (I've been wrong in the past), but I'm guessing the guy that did your cover has no more experience (well maybe a little more) doing covers and layouts than I do. I used to do bullshit covers back in the day just fuckin around and it's so easy to make something like what you have there it's ridiculous.

#4 ... Pervelous P Entertainment. That's good to advertise your Entertainment company. But what else you got comin? Is it really coming out? What happens if this album goes double-cardboard? Is that it? Did you waste all that time and space in a few record stores for nothing?

Savage-C, take my points seriously, but not so serious where you get to calling me out of my name and shit. Everything I stated can be said about your album, and a very large number of other albums. Like B-12-the-snake-charmer said in another post, it's too easy to make something and get it out there. And like Sick Wid It said, just because you can put something out, don't mean you need to. But again, I haven't heard your music so I won't say anything about the music. But on the surface, you got yourself an album that's been done before.
 
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MrPeete said:

#1 ... First off, you're making the same mistake almost all of the releases made this year. You're trying to let the features sell the album. Gone are the days when mufuckas used to buy ANYTHING that their favorite artist featured on. That shit is over with. You're making yourself a guest on your own album. I'm tellin y'all, be your own artist. It's damn near 2003, mufuckas been tryin to sell their album based on their features since ... what? .. 96-97? If you feel that's the ONLY way for you to sell records cause your a new artist then don't quit your day job cause this shit aint for you. Not just you Savage-C, I'm speaking in general on that last point.

#2 ... The cover. How many covers are there out there with the members of the group or the solo artist superimposed in front of his/her city? C'mon man. And looking at the cover, I'm poised to ask whether this is a compilation (compilations have BEEN dead) or a group album. The name don't help either. Back to the compilation point, it's hard to tell whether the 2 guys on the cover are the 'Nocturnal Hustlers' or whether it's a comp and it's called 'Nocturnal Hustlers'. And to be honest, if the 2 cats on the cover are the 'Nocturnal Hustlers' the guy on the left loses cool points for that shirt he got on. Basically saying that it would be hard based on looks and all of the shit that's come before you guys to take y'all serious. But again, I haven't heard the music.

#3 ... To the graphics company logo. I could be wrong (I've been wrong in the past), but I'm guessing the guy that did your cover has no more experience (well maybe a little more) doing covers and layouts than I do. I used to do bullshit covers back in the day just fuckin around and it's so easy to make something like what you have there it's ridiculous.

#4 ... Pervelous P Entertainment. That's good to advertise your Entertainment company. But what else you got comin? Is it really coming out? What happens if this album goes double-cardboard? Is that it? Did you waste all that time and space in a few record stores for nothing?


This is what this board needs more of, motherfuckers who will tell it like it is.
 
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MrPeete said:
You're trying to let the features sell the album. Gone are the days when mufuckas used to buy ANYTHING that their favorite artist featured on. That shit is over with.
This idea doesn't work 100% anymore because there are so many people doing so many features and so many features on each album...

But the idea of features still serves a good purpose. I have purchased cds because of the guest appearances. Then in turn became a fan of the artists that I bought the albums because of the guest appearances for. So if it wasn't for the guest appearance, I would never have listened to some artists.

But with so many appearances, I cannot afford to buy every album that my favorite artists are on. And I do turn away from cds of new artists with too many features because it tells me that they can't hold their own on an album...
 
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LMD1510 said:


This idea doesn't work 100% anymore because there are so many people doing so many features and so many features on each album...

But the idea of features still serves a good purpose. I have purchased cds because of the guest appearances. Then in turn became a fan of the artists that I bought the albums because of the guest appearances for. So if it wasn't for the guest appearance, I would never have listened to some artists.

But thats just you limiting yourself and being close-minded.Back in the "glory days" of the Bay(circa93-97)...i would buy unknown artists ALL THE TIME.Fuck it...go out on a limb...test the waters.

I refuse to buy an album with more than 5 features on it.End of story(unless maybe if the features are just dudes/broads homeboys/homegirls from the block/lable...im talkin big name/names that sell type features).I agree with everything Peete said.From the criticism to the general points.Everything is true...and im glad there are others out there that feel the same way as i do.

And on a side note(related),ive bought more "mainstream" albums on the last 3 months...than ive bought in the last 5 years.Why?Cus im startin to realize and open my mind to new shit.Ive grown up and alotta these so called "MCs"...are really just story tellin nobodies.I hate to down on anotha muthafuckas hustle...but not everyone was born to bless the mic...pass to the man/woman that was...
 
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Purebred Hogg said:


But thats just you limiting yourself and being close-minded.Back in the "glory days" of the Bay(circa93-97)...i would buy unknown artists ALL THE TIME.Fuck it...go out on a limb...test the waters.
That's what I do...but to some extent...I go out on a limb and buy a lot of artists stuff, sometimes because of the features...but when the features overshadow the artist, I get skeptical...

I am limiting myself because there is so much out there...back in 93-97 I bought everything too, I was a teenager...all my money went to music...but there is more out there now then back then and I have bills to pay, I cannot afford to buy it all so I have to be more selective...
 
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@ MrPeete:

Damn playa! That was a cold ass post. It almost hurt MY feelings. You basically raped his project to bare ass status. Correct, but cold...:cry:
 
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LMD1510 said:


This idea doesn't work 100% anymore because there are so many people doing so many features and so many features on each album...

But the idea of features still serves a good purpose. I have purchased cds because of the guest appearances. Then in turn became a fan of the artists that I bought the albums because of the guest appearances for. So if it wasn't for the guest appearance, I would never have listened to some artists.

But with so many appearances, I cannot afford to buy every album that my favorite artists are on. And I do turn away from cds of new artists with too many features because it tells me that they can't hold their own on an album...
i feel the same way as you. i've bought hella cd's from hella people i never heard of cause of the features, and it got me more into their music and i bought their other releases. but i've also bought cd's from hella artists with no features, and often on CD-R.
 
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Damn Mr. Peete let me start off by saying a whole-heartedly agree with you on this. And I it inspired me to NOT hold my tongue anymore.
GONE are the days when I used to go to Wherehouse and look behind the cashier and say "What's new back there?" and the cashier would give me Hate You With A Passion, Ill Mannered Players, Game Related.....my point-- I was almost NEVER dissappointed with what represented the bay area. Because the rappers were RAPPING WHAT THE KNEW ABOUT (keyword KNEW).
Your post is so damn serious Peete it ain't funny...My friend who actually sang on the Nocturnal Hustlers album and is featured on there (no namer)is so embarrased she actually was on that project. One serious question I have to the Nocturnal Hustlers is why you did the album....really. I KNOW you paid those features to be on there and I KNOW (it may be hard to believe) that you made a good amount of money selling the album....but why did you do it? Was it for the money, notoriety, do you actually LOVE the art, did you think it would be tight to be on some shit in the stores?
Also, just a point I would like to make.......features on your album DONT MEAN SHIT.......I will continue I gotta go.....
 
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M.O.B. Boss said:
GONE are the days when I used to go to Wherehouse and look behind the cashier and say "What's new back there?" and the cashier would give me Hate You With A Passion, Ill Mannered Players, Game Related.....my point-- I was almost NEVER dissappointed with what represented the bay area.
I really don't get this whole concept of the "golden days" of Bay Area rap. If people would understand that no other region has produced the same sound as they did 8 years ago maybe people would understand that there's plenty of good shit out now as well. And people say the market is flooded with crap, but there were plenty of crappy cds back in the day too, there may be a dozen more now because the rap game has expanded.

I agree with a lot of your points in your first post Peete...I really dont care who the fuck is on the cd as long as its tight.

About the Nocturnal Hustlers CD though, I don't see why everyone is so critical of their camp. Granted Ive never actually heard the CD, everyone who has bought it on BART has given it rave reviews...and I'm not sure how many its sold but from what C has posted in recent months I think they are satisfied with the results they are getting on their records, so really their promotion must have worked okay. I think in a number of posts NH has been used as the scapegoat for a lot of frustrations we ALL have from picking up or hearing wack shit, and I really am not sure why seeing how people on this board seem to be fans of their music.
 

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take a good look at the above post........a lot of truth in it..........

alright mr.peete, let me just say this: i asked a simple question without any insults intended.....but instead of answering it, u got all emotional and tore apart a project that me and my homies poured our hearts into......one that's actually doing successfully on the independent tip.....EVEN with bayside distribution, how many units have your albums sold? with those expensive shemp covers? numbers would be appreciated.......i'm curious

Pervelous P. Entertainment has sold 2000 units of our FIRST release City on the Hush and 1500 units of NH with no distribution....all in less than 14 months...and thats all we pressed of them....we met our expectations....i'm not tryin to meet yours, just my own.....every man for himself.....so please, don't judge a book by its cover......just cause u don't see it in every store don't mean it ain't respected or respectable.....i'm not tryin to diss your projects either, as u so blatantly felt the need to do to me..... i'm tryin to reinforce a point that you made yourself: nobody cares.....the market is flooded......and since u don't even consider our project to be REAL, then how can we be flooding it? It's gotta be some other labels, right?

Peep:
1) all the artists that we have featured on the album are either homies comin up with us (tactoutmuzic, nbd, gi, etc.) or they are FEATURES TO SELL ALBUMS......but believe me, i'm not some fuckin rich kid spendin g's on these rappers....i kick it with them, smoke blunts and chop game.......NETWORKING IS NEVER A BAD THING................


by the way, PERVELOUS P has several projects coming up, the next one:
NH- ANOTHER NIGHT, ANOTHER HUSTLE (FEATURING DEVIN THE DUDE)

is that ONE feature ok with u mr. peete? It's an artist that has sold over 200 to 300k albums.......hmmmmmm.......i don't see a lot of him on other TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE underground albums........if u need his number, holla!
 

SavageC

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and by the way, Photo Doctor will be handling the graphics on the next 3 projects......does that meet peete's approval?


damn playa....this is not the way to lead the bay in the right direction, by tearing everyone but yourself down.........
 

BAMMER

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On a side note:When yall say the game is flooded right now,just know that means Cali,Oregon,Wash,Az,Colorado and a few others,but theres 40+ states you ain't connecting with.Nobody even fucks with Europe and Canada really.There's dollars everywhere to be thrown around,but very few are willing to go out and make it happen,they'd rather fuck around in the studio with rappers they idolize,than hit the road with a couple homies and bust ass.It ain't the game,it's the motivation in yah!but then again,your dealing with alot of cats who never worked a 9 to 5 in their life,so they ain't ready to put in the work,or get some dirt under their nails.
 

Mista CaNE

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I don't have time to break this post down how I want to, but on top of being a realist peete alot of times your very arrogant, are you part of the problem or solution? I respect your work but your point of view is very shady and the fact that you crucified dude's album cover without hearing the music is gay. It's called you do the best you can with the budget you have. Just because your on the cover in a different shirt then you would have worn means there suspect? This from the dude who said it's time for hip hop to change there dress code. Dont read into shit so much, negativity aint needed on this board. Wack rappers threads get ignored thats how you know there shitty or slept on for the time being. Back to the clothes issue, are you concerned with how your favorite rappers dresses? and there cover? or the fuckin music they make? Nuff said