NFL MVP

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Jamaal Charles!!!!!!!!!!!!

*takes off red and yellow glasses*

I'd go with Brady for now. Vick is a beast but Brady is too damn consistent.

The way it should be looked at is how would their respective teams fair without them....
 
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True, but who means more to their team's success? Without VIck, would Eagles be as good as they are? How about if you take away Brady? How are the Pats?

It goes beyond stats.


That's actually true.


I don't think the Eagles would be terrible with Kolb, but they definitely wouldn't be where they are now without Mike Vick.
 

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yea go ahead and add those 8tds and 600 yards and they still dont compare to brady's 31 TDS. And it isnt bradys fault he missed those games. What is done is done. You go by the stats and games theyve played. Also brady shitted on the Bears, Steelers, Colts, and Jets just to name a few. Pretty impressive if you ask me.
didnt the pats go 11-5 and make the playoffs with a guy that never took a snap since high school? i believe so. end of story. kolb would have been murdered behind phillys weak oline. so would brady. the mvp and comeback player of the year is hands down mike vick, especially for all the criticism and doubt about his abilities up to now. if you don't think vick is one of the best players to ever set foot in the nfl you'll always be a hater no matter how good he does.

and brady got smashed by the jets and browns since you seem to forget. no team has completely shut vick down. his only loss was in a game where the defense made the bears look like tom brady. vicks stats were good in that game.
 
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Jamaal Charles!!!!!!!!!!!!

*takes off red and yellow glasses*

I'd go with Brady for now. Vick is a beast but Brady is too damn consistent.

The way it should be looked at is how would their respective teams fair without them....
Another historic run by a Chief's RB. He should be considered cause If we didn't have Charles then... I don't even want to think about that shit.
 

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I think Vick is probably the most exciting player in the NFL... and I'd love to see him win MVP because I think it's a great redemption type of story...

but I think Brady deserves it

Brady has beaten basically all the best teams in the NFL, and has done it in extremely dominate fashion against a lot of them

also... has done it with less weapons and one of the worst defenses in the NFL (statistically at least)

don't get me wrong... I think either guy is deserving... and I think it would be awesome to see Vick win it... but Brady deserves it more, IMO at least
 
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Its pretty simple Tom Brady is a pocket passer and thats it. Vick is so much more and that has to be accounted for. Vick is MVP no doubt about it. Like they said on ESPN, Vick is the most exciting athelete to watch.
lol @ ESPN. who said that trent dilfer? hasselbeck? the same morons who think bret favre is the greatest QB of all time next to p. manning. Also you dont get an mvp award for being the most "exciting" athlete. In that case barry sanders got robbed of an MVP trophy every single year. And why do people bring up who means the most to their team??? Like the NFL has ever handed out MVP trophies based on who meant the most to their team. Its an individual award they go off stats and team record in my opinion.

didnt the pats go 11-5 and make the playoffs with a guy that never took a snap since high school? i believe so. end of story. kolb would have been murdered behind phillys weak oline. so would brady. the mvp and comeback player of the year is hands down mike vick, especially for all the criticism and doubt about his abilities up to now. if you don't think vick is one of the best players to ever set foot in the nfl you'll always be a hater no matter how good he does.
I never said he wasnt a great QB. Vick is the shit just sucks for him this year that Brady is tearing shit up like usual. And that QB youre talking about is Matt Cassel. That guy aint no joke so dont act like any QB can handle the responsiblities and demands of being a patriots QB in that divison. Matt Cassel is well on his way to the playoffs. If he wasnt on the Chiefs they would be no where near playoff contention right now.
 
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Ironlungs u can let go of bradys nuts. He's a system qb, Vick is the all around better player. Mothafucka has 613 rushing yards. lol @ u being in denial that Vick is an exciting player to watch. Some foo's just don't get it. Belicheks* system is any qbs wet dream. For the sake of argument how well would Brady do if he played for Philly?
 

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Ironlungs u can let go of bradys nuts. He's a system qb, Vick is the all around better player. Mothafucka has 613 rushing yards. lol @ u being in denial that Vick is an exciting player to watch. Some foo's just don't get it. Belicheks* system is any qbs wet dream. For the sake of argument how well would Brady do if he played for Philly?
Brady is one of the greatest QBs ever, if you think Vick should win MVP, that's fine

but to say Brady is nothing more than a product of Belichek's system is just hating
 
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its not like vick came in and completely turned the eagles around they been a solid team they just added more weapons while he has been QB as i dont think vick has really faced top teams besides the packers and bears who they have lost to INDY and jags are a solid team but indy really hasnt been that great this year jags are hit and miss team also and nyg been on the decline after the cowboys stomped em out its nice to see vick playin and doing well tho
 

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its not like vick came in and completely turned the eagles around they been a solid team they just addhttp://www.siccness.net/vb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=5550243ed more weapons while he has been QB as i dont think vick has really faced top teams besides the packers and bears who they have lost to INDY and jags are a solid team but indy really hasnt been that great this year jags are hit and miss team also and nyg been on the decline after the cowboys stomped em out its nice to see vick playin and doing well tho
exactly

people make it seem like the Eagles were some shitty ass team until Vick started playing at QB

Philly has been to the playoffs almost every year for a long time

Philly has a better defense than the Pats, and they have better offensive weapons... I will say that the Pats have a better O-line though

and people wanna say Brady just plays in a good system... Vick DOESN'T play in a good system??

and I know Belichek is a better coach than Reid, but Reid is a great coach as well

people are hella funny man, Brady is just a system QB... lol

don't get me wrong, I'm not a Pats fan at all... but I keep it real and respect greatness
 
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not saying he's not a great qb but at the same time the Cassell factor always comes into play, Vick just does more for his team and Brady is no Peyton Manning. Just cuz the Patriots are doing better then the Colts doesn't make one player better then the other as far as who has more talent at the qb position.
 
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not saying he's not a great qb but at the same time the Cassell factor always comes into play, Vick just does more for his team and Brady is no Peyton Manning. Just cuz the Patriots are doing better then the Colts doesn't make one player better then the other as far as who has more talent at the qb position.
just quit hating! recognize talent! i aint a fan of the patriots but Brady is the closest we will ever see to Joe Montana.