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HERESY

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you are just the type of person that is so repulsive and so picked on as a youth that you are mad at the world. you'll never have children so your theories on this are null and void. you turned to science for that empty space but it's still eatin you up. don't worry it will all be over soon.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has come to this very logical assessment. I'm also tempted to say his hatred for religion actually has something to do with his parents and have been amplified by his interest in certain ideologies that appear to be based in science. But I also know that talking to him in a certain fashion is what he thrives on, and talking about him like we're doing now simply reinforces his beliefs and provides him with ammo so to speak.

Yes, the "mad scientist" jig is old, and I think he should reinvent the wheel.
 
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#22
you are just the type of person that is so repulsive and so picked on as a youth that you are mad at the world. you'll never have children so your theories on this are null and void. you turned to science for that empty space but it's still eatin you up. don't worry it will all be over soon.

you have no qualifications to know what constitutes a human or a man, books don't teach that


If he doesn't have the qualifications to know what constitutes a human or a man, than how do you have the qualifications to come to the conclusion that that he is incorrect and...

GTS said:
you are just the type of person that is so repulsive and so picked on as a youth that you are mad at the world. you'll never have children so your theories on this are null and void. you turned to science for that empty space but it's still eatin you up. don't worry it will all be over soon.
based on his point of view differing from yours?



It looks like you are having an entirely emotional reaction to his post and saying things such as "i wish his mom had an abortion" rather than refuting his post with logical evidence.
 
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#23
If he doesn't have the qualifications to know what constitutes a human or a man, than how do you have the qualifications to come to the conclusion that that he is incorrect and...



based on his point of view differing from yours?



It looks like you are having an entirely emotional reaction to his post and saying things such as "i wish his mom had an abortion" rather than refuting his post with logical evidence.

your jumpin on his dick because?
 

ThaG

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#24
i would love for thag's city to be hit by a bomb

or if his mother had gotten an abortion

or IF he ever had a child (the likelyhood of a woman lettin him impregnate her is pretty slim) to see if his ideas change

or if he killed himself due to the fact that he means nothing in this world
None of us means anything, you, me and everybody else are just tools that our genes use to reproduce themselves. The fact that you don't realize this only makes you even more worthless than those of us who do.

Now, since for some reason, in a regrettably small, but still non-zero portion of us, the phylogenetic instinct for survival has taken over the ontogenetic one, i.e. they realize that our goal at this moment should be to preserve the species and this is a much greater goal than the happiness/worldviews/life of the individual, they may say things that seem obscene to the others. That does not make these things any less true, unfortunately, and if they're met with emotionally-rooted hostility, the chances of the great goal being achieved, i.e. us not going extinct decrease.

you are just the type of person that is so repulsive and so picked on as a youth that you are mad at the world. you'll never have children so your theories on this are null and void. you turned to science for that empty space but it's still eatin you up. don't worry it will all be over soon.

you have no qualifications to know what constitutes a human or a man, books don't teach that
I don't see how me not having children (which is what my plans are) makes "my theories null and void". These aren't theories, this is a rational analysis of our situation and what the way out of it is. Depopulation will happen, the question is whether it will be controlled, organized and peaceful, or a massive dieoff. Right now we are heading right into the latter and this is what I don't want to see. And so doesn't any of us, at least I hope so.
 

ThaG

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Hmmm...yes...how convienant that is huh?

"Kill 90% of the people...as long as im in the 10%!!"

BTW, you have no proof that "the people who advocate depopulation are the ones most worth keeping alive when it happens"...so dont throw those type of fallacies out there, please.
It isn't a fallacy. The question is the following: you have no choice other than disposing of a large portion of the population. How do you do it - randomly or you pick the ones that will be most "useful" after this and keep them? Clearly, you're better off in the second case. Now, what has made our species so successful is out ability to transmit information transgenerationally, this is the very basis of our civilization. Which means that if you're faced with such a dilemma, preservation of knowledge and expertise should be a priority. For obvious reasons. This does not mean scientists and academics only, it means all kinds of expertise and knowledge, including specialists in manual labor tasks without which our way of life would not be possible, but the people to keep will still be dominated by the highly educated. And I think, everybody would agree that a highly educated world is a much better world than a world full of ignorance, such as the one we live in now.

Give me some arguments against this, you will be hard pressed to so.

Now, so it turns out, not at all surprisingly, that the small number of people who do recognize the overpopulation threat belongs predominantly to the group of highly educated people one would have to keep alive were such an event become unavoidable. Which is what I was referring to
 

ThaG

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#26
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has come to this very logical assessment. I'm also tempted to say his hatred for religion actually has something to do with his parents and have been amplified by his interest in certain ideologies that appear to be based in science. But I also know that talking to him in a certain fashion is what he thrives on, and talking about him like we're doing now simply reinforces his beliefs and provides him with ammo so to speak.

Yes, the "mad scientist" jig is old, and I think he should reinvent the wheel.
Just so you know, my hatred of religion is based on me being raised without religion (not with a hatred for religion) and when finally exposed to it, not being able to understand how people could be so stupid. I must have been 7 or 8 when I first laughed at somebody for believing in God
 

ThaG

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#27
If he doesn't have the qualifications to know what constitutes a human or a man, than how do you have the qualifications to come to the conclusion that that he is incorrect and...



based on his point of view differing from yours?



It looks like you are having an entirely emotional reaction to his post and saying things such as "i wish his mom had an abortion" rather than refuting his post with logical evidence.
logic and evidence are concepts I highly doubt he is familiar with
 
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It isn't a fallacy. The question is the following: you have no choice other than disposing of a large portion of the population. How do you do it - randomly or you pick the ones that will be most "useful" after this and keep them? Clearly, you're better off in the second case. Now, what has made our species so successful is out ability to transmit information transgenerationally, this is the very basis of our civilization. Which means that if you're faced with such a dilemma, preservation of knowledge and expertise should be a priority. For obvious reasons. This does not mean scientists and academics only, it means all kinds of expertise and knowledge, including specialists in manual labor tasks without which our way of life would not be possible, but the people to keep will still be dominated by the highly educated. And I think, everybody would agree that a highly educated world is a much better world than a world full of ignorance, such as the one we live in now.
What a surprise, you once again leave out human nature, in that you think EVERYONE will just say "i will give up my life for the greater good". Cmon guy...really? Apparently, you think that all humans are of the Theory Y faction, when in fact, you woud be surprised to see that damn near ALL fall under the Theory X model.

Give me some arguments against this, you will be hard pressed to so.
See above.

Now, so it turns out, not at all surprisingly, that the small number of people who do recognize the overpopulation threat belongs predominantly to the group of highly educated people one would have to keep alive were such an event become unavoidable. Which is what I was referring to
Im dumb as fuck...and i know that the earth is overpopulated. This is the reason i do not want kids, unless they are adopted.
 

ThaG

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What a surprise, you once again leave out human nature, in that you think EVERYONE will just say "i will give up my life for the greater good". Cmon guy...really? Apparently, you think that all humans are of the Theory Y faction, when in fact, you woud be surprised to see that damn near ALL fall under the Theory X model.



See above.
This isn't an argument


Im dumb as fuck...and i know that the earth is overpopulated. This is the reason i do not want kids, unless they are adopted.
1. You don't seem to fully recognize the threat of overpopulation

2. I said "predominantly", not exclusively
 
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It isn't a fallacy. The question is the following: you have no choice other than disposing of a large portion of the population. How do you do it - randomly or you pick the ones that will be most "useful" after this and keep them? Clearly, you're better off in the second case. Now, what has made our species so successful is out ability to transmit information transgenerationally, this is the very basis of our civilization. Which means that if you're faced with such a dilemma, preservation of knowledge and expertise should be a priority. For obvious reasons. This does not mean scientists and academics only, it means all kinds of expertise and knowledge, including specialists in manual labor tasks without which our way of life would not be possible, but the people to keep will still be dominated by the highly educated. And I think, everybody would agree that a highly educated world is a much better world than a world full of ignorance, such as the one we live in now.

Give me some arguments against this, you will be hard pressed to so.

Now, so it turns out, not at all surprisingly, that the small number of people who do recognize the overpopulation threat belongs predominantly to the group of highly educated people one would have to keep alive were such an event become unavoidable. Which is what I was referring to
who on this planet should have the privalege to chose which portions of the population to axe.
 

ThaG

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The whole point is that if act now, we can still avoid having to do that. And we will never do that, it will be just the poor left to starve to death, and millions killed in wars. Sterilizations are a much more attractive option compared to this
 
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I still can't believe thaG thinks infanticide is ok because babies aren't people.

wow. I seriously want to kill the guy. I have a newborn niece who I love so much and this guy believes it's OK to kill her because she's not a person?

WOW. I'm just speechless
 
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The whole point is that if act now, we can still avoid having to do that. And we will never do that, it will be just the poor left to starve to death, and millions killed in wars. Sterilizations are a much more attractive option compared to this
same thing. starvation, holocaust its all the same. but if steralization is the answer, than lead by example dog.
 
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if ignorent people are going to get killed Thag will be first in line! people advocating for depoulation are an exlusive club and iam sorry to say this you aint in it!
 

ThaG

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I still can't believe thaG thinks infanticide is ok because babies aren't people.

wow. I seriously want to kill the guy. I have a newborn niece who I love so much and this guy believes it's OK to kill her because she's not a person?

WOW. I'm just speechless
See, that's the problem and the reason why force will have to be used to stop people from reproducing. It just won't work by persuasion. It will never be started, but this is a different subject, we are discussing how you go about it if you were to do it.

As I already said, we are nothing but tools our genes use to make more copies of themselves, and thus we are programmed by evolution to do everything possible to achieve that goal. Part of this is our adoration for babies. The vast majority considers babies cute little defenseless creatures that have to be preserved no matter what, and these feelings are orders of magnitudes stronger when it comes to their own babies. Once you realize the straightforward explanation for why this is so that evolutionary psychology gives you, and you also look past the next 20 minutes of your life and you imagine that that cute little baby will most likely be an obese ignorant faithful resource-wasting waste-producing member of the consumer society if it happens to live in the West, or an even more ignorant, still resource-wasting and waste-producing, even though on a lower scale, contributing nothing to the advancement of mankind person in the Third World, you may see why it is "evil" (for lack of a better word) and not cute at all. Because each of them is another contribution to our extinction.
 
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This thread is pathetic. The only person offering any type of actual argument to thag is I Pukokeki Ioulo Momu. Everyone else is relying on throwing insults and basing their argument on "i disagree with him, so i hope thag dies" lol

How is wishing death on Thag based on his pov, any better or worse than him suggesting infanticide as a solution to the growing problem of population control? Both arguments end in death.

Home-E said:
I still can't believe thaG thinks infanticide is ok because babies aren't people.
If you disagree with what he said than provide some argument why he is incorrect or some evidence that fetus "are people" or that they show more cognitive ability than thag is suggesting. Even better, ask him how he came to the seemingly arbitrary conclusion that the criteria for selection would be cognitive ability because there is no pre-established way to go about a depopulation process so anyone's argument could have as much validity as another's argument.

For example; just going off the thag's argument that a fetus has no cognitive ability a simple google search produced a study on fetal cognitive development and suggests

Thus fetal cognitive motor activity, including auditory discrimination, orienting, the wake–sleep cycle, FHRs, and defensive reactions, appear to be under the reflexive control of the brainstem, which also appears capable of learning-related activity