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HERESY

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Sergeant...it sounds like you watched Boyz n' the Hood one too many times. Are these your thoughts or are they someone elses?

I can tell that your are educated, but for someone so educated, you say alot of ignorant things. How can you honestly say that voting is bullshit?

If enough people vote for something, things will change. The problem is they don't, because people like you think their opinion doesn't matter.

What if Martin Luther King thought the way you did? Or Malcolm X? Lord knows the odds were against them. But they fought anyways. They moved people. They got enough people to stand behind them to make a difference. The problem is people like you would rather sit around and complain about the way things are instead of going out and changing things to the way you want them to be.

CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW *ALL* OF THE PEOPLE IN MAJOR VOTING RACES (I.E. FOR PRESIDENCY OR GORVENER) ARE COUNCIL ON FORIEGN RELATIONS MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE TRILATERAL COMMISION,MEMBERS OF THE BILDERBERGERS OR MEMBERS OF SOME OTHER PRIVATE INSTITUTION?

CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE BOARD HOW S.ROTHSCHILD FUNDED GEORGE BUSH SR (REPUBLICAN) WHILE R.ROTHSCHILD FUNDED BILL CLINTON (DEMOCRAT)?

HERE YOU HAVE TWO MEMBERS WHO COME FROM A FAMILY OF INTERNATIONAL BANKERS. WHY ARE THEY SUPPORTING BOTH DEMO AND REPUB?

IM WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER.


THE *BEST* GANG DOING THINGS RIGHT NOW ARE THE
BILDERBERGERS. NO ONE CAN FADE THEM.


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What's one of the first questions they ask you on that application you fill out for college? What is your race? Don't worry, all that money you don't get goes to all of the football players who will graduate not knowing how to read. Or for that brand new weight room at your school. Then of course there is all of those scholarships for minorities. They get the money while people like me who worked our asses off through 12 years of school, 3.5-4.0 GPA, just get financial aid that we have to pay back (this does not apply to every body).
I WENT TO COLLEGE AND DIDNT GET ANY MINORITY SCHOLARSHIPS. IF YOU HAD A GPA OF 3.5-4.0 AND YOU RECEIVED NO MONIES TOWARDS YOUR EDUCATION I WOULD SAY THAT EITHER YOU ARE A LIAR,DID NOT UTILIZE YOUR RESOURCES OR DID NOT READ THE FINE PRINT. SO YOU WORKED YOUR ASS OFF FOR 12 YEARS? :classic: THATS GREAT. SLAVES WORKED THEIR ASSESS OFF FOR 400 YEARS.......

GET A JOB AND GET OVER IT. WHO CARES IF YOU DONT GET PELL GRANTS.....OOPS.....WHO CARES IF YOU CANT GET A LOAN THAT YOU DONT HAVE TO PAY FOR UNTIL YOU FIND A GIG.......




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CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW *ALL* OF THE PEOPLE IN MAJOR VOTING RACES (I.E. FOR PRESIDENCY OR GORVENER) ARE COUNCIL ON FORIEGN RELATIONS MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE TRILATERAL COMMISION,MEMBERS OF THE BILDERBERGERS OR MEMBERS OF SOME OTHER PRIVATE INSTITUTION?

Not "ALL" people are members of these groups...I'm not (Although I don't know who the Bilderbergers are). Anyone over 18 can vote.....

CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE BOARD HOW S.ROTHSCHILD FUNDED GEORGE BUSH SR (REPUBLICAN) WHILE R.ROTHSCHILD FUNDED BILL CLINTON (DEMOCRAT)?

HERE YOU HAVE TWO MEMBERS WHO COME FROM A FAMILY OF INTERNATIONAL BANKERS. WHY ARE THEY SUPPORTING BOTH DEMO AND REPUB?
I don't know why they are supporting both the Democrats and the Republicans. Maybe they have special interests in both sides. I'm not saying the government isn't corrupt...everyone knows that it is. I'm simply stating that Voting does matter. The problem is that the people who want to see the most change in our society don't vote.

And I'm not talking about just the Presidential election. There are hundreds of issues that are voted on all the time in your state and local communities. I've gone to city meetings to discuss these issues and you would be surprised by how many people are not there.
 
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SO YOU WORKED YOUR ASS OFF FOR 12 YEARS? THATS GREAT. SLAVES WORKED THEIR ASSESS OFF FOR 400 YEARS.......

GET A JOB AND GET OVER IT. WHO CARES IF YOU DONT GET PELL GRANTS.....OOPS.....WHO CARES IF YOU CANT GET A LOAN THAT YOU DONT HAVE TO PAY FOR UNTIL YOU FIND A GIG.......
That's right let's all get over it. Shit happens. Nobody's going to changed the world. The whole world is currupt. Who gives a shit about slavery, let's not live in the past. We just have to deal with life our own way. Even if you feel like the white man is holding you down or anyone else for that matter, you can change that and make something happen. We all just need to stop bitching it don't do no good. We sure as hell ain't goin to change the world.

And I'll keep bumpin my rap music in my suburban nieborhood just like all the other music I listen too.
 
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#87
Sergeant Hustle said:


Naw, I won't.....just continue living in your bubble and banging gangster rap through your surburban neighborhood. Ignorance is bliss.
Yeah, you just tell me that from your living space that you described earlier (apartment, car, etc.). You don't even know where I live or who I associate with, and I am not here to brag about it. You think I am ignorant, please. I am right in the heart of it all. I am just expressing some views I have and playing a little devils advocate. I am not denying any of this shit that is said in here. Every race has something to bitch about.

And as for scholarships and shit, I'm not saying I deserve any because I could care less. I know there are a lot of smarter people than me out there. All I am saying is that universities should spend the money on more important things like students education, not new uniforms and weight rooms for the football team and not on players who take Basket Weaving 101 for four years through school.

As for voting, I will never vote for the two main parties (Democrat or Republican). I voted for Nader. I don't care what he represents, but the only way change in the government will come is with someone besides Republican or Democrat.

As for the last election, Ralph Nader got 2-3 million votes, votes Al Gore could have had and won the election. Nader didn't win, but he took away lots of votes from both of those guys.
 

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@gimpy you said this:
Not "ALL" people are members of these groups...I'm not (Although I don't know who the Bilderbergers are). Anyone over 18 can vote.....
1.i am not implying that VOTERS are part of these groups. please read the post again.

2.felons cant vote. so no anyone over 18 cant vote.

3.ALL of the MAJOR PLAYERS (IE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR GOVERNER OR PRESIDENT) HAVE A CONNECTION OR ARE MEMBERS OF THOSE GROUPS.

I don't know why they are supporting both the Democrats and the Republicans. Maybe they have special interests in both sides. I'm not saying the government isn't corrupt...everyone knows that it is. I'm simply stating that Voting does matter. The problem is that the people who want to see the most change in our society don't vote.
VOTING FOR PRESIDENT IS BASED ON THE ELECTORAL VOTE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOUR VOTE COUNTS? HOW HAS IT COUNTED? WHAT CHANGES HAVE YOU SEE? PLEASE ELABORATE.

MAYBE THEY HAVE SPECIAL INTEREST IN BOTH SIDES.

1.DO YOU KNOW WHO THE ROTHSCHILDS ARE?

And I'm not talking about just the Presidential election. There are hundreds of issues that are voted on all the time in your state and local communities. I've gone to city meetings to discuss these issues and you would be surprised by how many people are not there.
ONCE AGAIN READ THE POST. I SAID *MAJOR ELECTIONS*. NOR WAS I JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION (ANY THING MAJOR). YEAH YOUR TOWN MAY VOTE FOR A NEW STOP LIGHT........BUT GUESS WHAT.....IF THEY WANT TO PASS A LAW OR SOMETHING ELSE THEY WILL. WITHOUT YOUR HELP.

YOU THINK SAN FRANCISCO ISNT PLAGUED WITH CORRUPTION? YOU THINK THEY ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE VOTERS. MONEY TALKS. YOUR VOTE IS A NOTHING..........


@PITTY
That's right let's all get over it. Shit happens. Nobody's going to changed the world. The whole world is currupt. Who gives a shit about slavery, let's not live in the past. We just have to deal with life our own way. Even if you feel like the white man is holding you down or anyone else for that matter, you can change that and make something happen. We all just need to stop bitching it don't do no good. We sure as hell ain't goin to change the world.
MY RESPONSE WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF SARCASM.

1.YOU CANT JUST SAY "GET OVER" WHEN PEOPLE ARE *STILL* FEELING THE EFFECTS OF SLAVERY.

2.YOU CANT SAY WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SLAVERY WHEN WE HAVE WHITE OWNED CORPERATIONS (CHEVRON IS AN EXAMPLE) WHO ARE RAPING THE LANDS OF AFRICA AND SOUTH AMERICA.

3.YOU CANT SAY WE ARE LIVING IN THE PAST WHEN OUR FUTURE IS DIM. WHEN WE ARE STRUGGLING IN THE PRESENT AND NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT HAS BEEN MADE.

WHEN AMERICA BOMBED JAPAN WHAT DID THEY DO LATER ON? HOW MILLIONS DID THEY GIVE JAPAN AFTER THE WAR?

HOW FAR DID AMERICA GO IN HELPING THE JEWS AFYER THE HOLOCAUST?

PLEASE NOTE THAT SPEAKING ABOUT ISSUES AND ELABORATING ON THEM DOES NOT EQUATE TO "BITCHING".......

YOU HAVE THE SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG MENTALITY........

FEEBLE.........


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Exactly....since when does discussing reality constitute as bitching?

The reason white people don't like to hear the truth is because they want to forget that shit happend......slavery was not that long ago....but let's just say it was.....consider the fact that black people went to substandard, segregated schools 50 years ago and couldn't eat at the same counter and couldn't piss in the same urinal as whites....couldn't vote and once they were allowed to vote they had to pass a poll test in order to earn the right...the poll tests were erroneous questions with no correct answers so they lost their chance to vote then and there.....that's pretty recent. And people have a problem with minority scholarships WHY? Black people deserve to get a leg up.....

Think of it this way....you're in a race around a track...the whites are kickin your ass.....you notice, not only that you are obviously black, but that you are running with a 500 pound weight affixed to your leg....you're trying to catch up, but there is no way you can....the obstacle is too much to bear. They're running circles around you, laughing, poking fun, and enjoying your despair. They kick you while your down until you're too battered to race anymore. When the weight is finally removed, you get up and start running.....except your miles and miles behind the whites in the race. That's the reality. That's why affirmative action and scholarships are necessary....people deserve a shot in the race on equal footing. Footing is not equal considering the history of racism and racist laws. You cannot make up hundreds of years of opression in 4 hours dude. It doesn't work.
 
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I look at the slavery issue like this. I understand that it is hard to get over, but a lot of white people like me do not want to be reminded of or blamed for what our ancestors did. That's all. I think that's why a lot of us say don't live in the past, because that shit is just too unbearable for a lot of us to deal with. At least for me it is.

Yeah, I will admit it was not that long ago when you say it. Sometimes I forget that. I guess it just seems so long ago because they teach it in history class.
 

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you dont want to be reminded or blamed? i dont want to be followed in guitar center everytime i walk in. especially when i have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

you dont want to be reminded or blamed? why dont you do something to help HEAL the wounds?

history class=comedy 101

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@Heresy-You are putting words in my mouth. I didn't say anything about Bitching. I'm just saying that when you look at the big picture there is nothing we can really do to change any of this, including some of the things you mentioned. No I'm didn't say anything about sweeping anything under the rug. Why dwell over somthing that happend over 150 years ago. Come on. We are not getting nowhere when every time we use this as a crutch so to speak. Move on with our lives. I don't agree with any of those things that happend. I find it very disturbing. Just curious how are people still feeling the affects of slavery today? Call me feeble, call me what ever other names you want to call me, I don't care. It seems like you have a habit of trying to make people feel stupid. Which I understand some people are like that, it makes them feel better about themselves. That's cool I understand, it doesn't bother me none. Let me ask you this. Do you agree about giving people money today over slavery?
 

HERESY

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ORIGINALLY STATED BY PITTY
@Heresy-You are putting words in my mouth.
NO IM NOT.
I didn't say anything about Bitching.
YES YOU DID. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
We all just need to stop bitching it don't do no good.
THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS NOT MINE.

THAT SETTLES THAT ISSUE.

I'm just saying that when you look at the big picture there is nothing we can really do to change any of this, including some of the things you mentioned.
GREAT.
No I'm didn't say anything about sweeping anything under the rug.
SEEMS LIKE IT.
Why dwell over somthing that happend over 150 years ago. Come on.
PEOPLE ARE *STILL* FEELING THE STING OF SLAVERY. NO ONE IS *DWELLING* ON IT. IF WE WERE MOST OF US WOULDNT HAVE A LIFE. WE ARE SIMPLY DISCUSSING IT. SEE YOU HAVE THAT MENTALITY.......YOU SEEM VERY UNEDUCATED.
We are not getting nowhere when every time we use this as a crutch so to speak. Move on with our lives.
JUST SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG HUH...........

JUST MOVE ON.......WITHOUT TRYING TO COME WITH A SOLUTION TO EASE THE TENSION AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM.....JUST MOVE ON WITHOUT FULLY ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM.......
Just curious how are people still feeling the affects of slavery today?
.....................

DID YOU READ SGT HUSTLES POST???????
Call me feeble, call me what ever other names you want to call me, I don't care.
IF YOU DONT CARE WHY MENTION IT?
It seems like you have a habit of trying to make people feel stupid.
I DONT TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL STUPID. THEY DO IT ALL BY THEMSELVES. HERES A RECAP.
I didn't say anything about Bitching.
BUT YOU SAID THIS IN YOUR LAST POST
We all just need to stop bitching it don't do no good.
AND YOU SAY IM TRYING TO MAKE YOU LOOK STUPID?
Which I understand some people are like that, it makes them feel better about themselves
IM NOT THAT TYPE OF PERSON. IT PAINS ME TO SEE LUNACY........
That's cool I understand, it doesn't bother me none.
DOESNT BOTHER ME EITHER? YOUR POINT?
Do you agree about giving people money today over slavery?
DO YOU WANT A YES OR NO ANSWER?




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Why are you people paying any mind to a white girl trying to tell you how blacks and mexicans feel about whites?

Remember,an ostrich can't tell you how a fish feels.

If any of you only look at yourself in a certain class,or ethnicity first,you are missing the point of life....which starts with individuality,and ends there.




*side note*
Does anybody have a picture of the politician who helped this gangmember pull that trigger?


Ignorance is'nt bliss,it's a plague...
 
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^^^^Quit trying to sidebust.

I'm making educated points based on the fact that I am actually educated....just because I'm not black or mexican does not mean I cannot empathize and relate to the struggle. I am middle eastern but I am a female first and foremost. I have my own struggle, but just because something does not directly affect me doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I suppose since I'm not black or mexican I shouldn't see the forest for the trees? I should shut my eyes to the gaping sore that is racial injustice just because it's MORE COMFORTABLE FOR ME? Naw, you go ahead and do what's easy for you....my eyes are wide open.

How about me traveling in the airport.....can I speak on that? How about life for people of my decent after 9/11? Am I allowed to talk about that? Fuckin thread Nazi. It's over your head dude. You're very idealistic...I respect that you see everyone as individuals....but when push comes to shove and the chips are down, you'll benefit from being a whiteboy in America. Point blank.
 
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My dad is white. My mom is Armenian/Iranian. Some people consider me white, some don't. Some say i look black some say mexican some say Italian some have said Hawaiian (?). I was always questioned about my race as I grew up in a VERY white suburban community. We were poor and I was different. I was called a spic, spit on at school, and asked if my mom took me to tanning booths at 9 years old.

But really, it's neither here nor there....I feel that I can speak on the struggle because I witness the struggle....I have gotten out of my comfort zone to investigate and identify with what other people go through. I have done extensive study in the area of racism, history, the slave trade and it's aftermath, civil rights, etc. I have spoken with elders and peers, incited candid discussions, and over my 25 years of life I've come to see with clarity that there is something wrong with the dominant paradigm and the way white society has conducted and currently conducts itself.

White people are so caught up in defense and the fallacy that "we're all equal", when really, we're not. There is a disparity between the races....the east and the south are still EXTREMELY segregated by racial lines, for example. Laws are in place to ensure the inequality continues. Mass media dummies us down and lies to us.....feeds us subliminal messages about race and who is considered superior. I'm just not willing to blame whatever whiteness I may have in me as my excuse for ignorance on the issue of the racial divide. That's played. And it's just plain silly.
 
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ON POINT!

Sergeant Hustle said:
People are ignorant. They kill their own kind. Little do they know they're doing the great white man's dirty work for him and have fallen in to the master plan. Fucking idiots.
^Realtalk^:mad:
 

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Sergeant Hustle said:
I'm making educated points based on the fact that I am actually educated....

"Quit trying to sidebust."
"Fuckin thread Nazi."
"It's over your head dude."
"You're very idealistic..."
"I respect that you see everyone as individuals...."
"whiteboy in America."
Like I said...Ignorance is a plague.:classic: