Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, will it happen?
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HBO on Mayweather-Pacquiao: We Stand Ready To Go!
Jake Donovan on 2/2/2015
The clock continues to click as a perceived deadline approaches for the latest round of negotiations in efforts to get Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao in the ring.
A deadline might sound irrelevant for a fight that has been “in discussion” since November ’09. Still, the most recent batch of talks have many in the industry more hopeful than ever before that boxing will finally get its long-awaited super fight, one that will undoubtedly shatter box office records if it can ever get signed.
Heavy emphasis on “if.”
Publications around the world continue to cling on to every spoken word surrounding what remains a mythical matchup, with most of the updates offering little more than a rehashing of old news. Should the fight once again fail to materliaze, alibis and blame have already been tossed around and placed in queue, in the event that a villain is needed.
A recent report from Michigan Live senior writer David Mayo suggests that HBO—the cable giant whom has Pacquiao under contract—presently serves as the fly in the ointment.
Mayweather has been with Showtime since 2013 after bolting from HBO, where he had spent most of his career. A rare joint venture between networks is needed order for this fight to take place, with the only other occasion coming in June ’02 for Lennox Lewis’ 8th round knockout of Mike Tyson in what at the time served as the richest fight in boxing history (side note: Pacquiao actually fought on the Pay-Per-View undercard, knocking out a badly faded Jorge Julio in three rounds).
Theories abound have floated as to why the two networks are not able to simply refer to the existing template and apply to this fight. Whatever anyone believes to be the case, the brass at HBO insists their side is not the one holding up talks.
“We are not an impediment to this fight,” the network has stated through its press office. “We stand ready to go. The principals need to agree to terms and come to a deal.”
The super fight has been discussed from the moment Pacquiao permanently moved up to the welterweight division, stopping Miguel Cotto in the 12th round of their Nov. ’09 title fight. Mayweather had returned two months prior from a 21-month ring hiatus, scoring a 12-round shutout over Juan Manuel Marquez.
Talks ultimately broke down over Mayweather’s demands of pre-fight random drug testing, at the time not a common request in the sport. Pacquiao’s side offered a variety of excuses as to why they wouldn’t go all the way in the condition, prompting both camps to go their separate ways.
Every fight Mayweather has been involved in since then has come with the condition that both he and his opponent have to undergo random drug testing through United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). Pacquiao hasn’t been as consistent with such pre-fight ritual, but has utilized the services of Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) for recent fights.
Both fighters have reportedly agreed to pre-fight testing among a variety of other issues for a fight targeted for May 2 in Las Vegas (the MGM Grand also being the agreed upon venue).
Jake Donovan on 2/2/2015
The clock continues to click as a perceived deadline approaches for the latest round of negotiations in efforts to get Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao in the ring.
A deadline might sound irrelevant for a fight that has been “in discussion” since November ’09. Still, the most recent batch of talks have many in the industry more hopeful than ever before that boxing will finally get its long-awaited super fight, one that will undoubtedly shatter box office records if it can ever get signed.
Heavy emphasis on “if.”
Publications around the world continue to cling on to every spoken word surrounding what remains a mythical matchup, with most of the updates offering little more than a rehashing of old news. Should the fight once again fail to materliaze, alibis and blame have already been tossed around and placed in queue, in the event that a villain is needed.
A recent report from Michigan Live senior writer David Mayo suggests that HBO—the cable giant whom has Pacquiao under contract—presently serves as the fly in the ointment.
Mayweather has been with Showtime since 2013 after bolting from HBO, where he had spent most of his career. A rare joint venture between networks is needed order for this fight to take place, with the only other occasion coming in June ’02 for Lennox Lewis’ 8th round knockout of Mike Tyson in what at the time served as the richest fight in boxing history (side note: Pacquiao actually fought on the Pay-Per-View undercard, knocking out a badly faded Jorge Julio in three rounds).
Theories abound have floated as to why the two networks are not able to simply refer to the existing template and apply to this fight. Whatever anyone believes to be the case, the brass at HBO insists their side is not the one holding up talks.
“We are not an impediment to this fight,” the network has stated through its press office. “We stand ready to go. The principals need to agree to terms and come to a deal.”
The super fight has been discussed from the moment Pacquiao permanently moved up to the welterweight division, stopping Miguel Cotto in the 12th round of their Nov. ’09 title fight. Mayweather had returned two months prior from a 21-month ring hiatus, scoring a 12-round shutout over Juan Manuel Marquez.
Talks ultimately broke down over Mayweather’s demands of pre-fight random drug testing, at the time not a common request in the sport. Pacquiao’s side offered a variety of excuses as to why they wouldn’t go all the way in the condition, prompting both camps to go their separate ways.
Every fight Mayweather has been involved in since then has come with the condition that both he and his opponent have to undergo random drug testing through United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). Pacquiao hasn’t been as consistent with such pre-fight ritual, but has utilized the services of Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) for recent fights.
Both fighters have reportedly agreed to pre-fight testing among a variety of other issues for a fight targeted for May 2 in Las Vegas (the MGM Grand also being the agreed upon venue).
So basically they have no fights scheduled. Stevenson vs TBA and Zewski online.
Man, Haymon did Espinoza dirty lol. All the fights are going to be on NBC, NBC Sports, Spike TV and BET (which is good for us fans but how is Espinoza going to explain paying for all those mismatches in 2014 that were supposedly going to set up big fights for 2015 only for those fights to be on different networks!).
Man, Haymon did Espinoza dirty lol. All the fights are going to be on NBC, NBC Sports, Spike TV and BET (which is good for us fans but how is Espinoza going to explain paying for all those mismatches in 2014 that were supposedly going to set up big fights for 2015 only for those fights to be on different networks!).
That's for April. They already have a card for this month and March.
Stop hating on Haymon. You are starting to sound like battles.
Stop hating on Haymon. You are starting to sound like battles.
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If Marquez has posed a serious threat to Pacquaio in all 4 encounters...then I will go with Duran to KO Pacquaio...because let's not forget...Duran could box and go to the body. Let's not forget Duran gave Hagler HELL...beat Leonard etc. Duran wouldn't be weight drained fighting Pac...I think he gives Pacquaio a good beating and possibly stops him in the 9th round. Also Duran defense was sick (turning the head to avoid a punch).
Off topic...2-0-Sixx man I been asking people how the HELL is that a "catch" by Seattle's receiver...when Dez Bryant was ruled incomplete!?! I know it's not boxing related.
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The ground knocked the ball out of Dez's hands, which cannot happen. He didn't have possession. By the rules, that was not a catch. On the other hand, there's been a grip of catches like Kearse's catch, the ball NEVER HIT THE GROUND. That's why. Back to boxing.
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If I cut and paste battle is gonna go crazy again. but they have the main event and another fight and two or three tba and in March they have the date and a couple of tba. The point is, they have dates set aside and fighters set aside. And Stevenson is probably gonna rematch the guy he already fought and Zewski is off the card due to not being paid enough money.
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Basically jack shit for Showtime is what I'm saying. The cards they have are absolutely nothing cards (as far as what is on the horizon, that can change obviously). Thurman vs Guerrero, Broner vs Molina, Berto vs Lopez, Garcia vs Peterson all on other networks. My point is Espinoza invested A LOT of money in 2014 building these guys up, he even said the whole point of Garcia vs Salka/Peterson vs Santana double header was to set up a big fight between them, only for it to now happen on NBC lol. You look at the calender for Showtime boxing and read about the upcoming fight rumors and there's nothing. It's only 2/3/15 though so who knows.
Dan Raphael on the Stephen A Smith radio show in regards to the latest on Floyd vs Pacquiao, take it for what its worth:
https://m.soundcloud.com/hardindr/steven-a-smith-show-dan-rafael-interview-2015-02-03
He mentioned how mayweather wasn't a big part of the negotiations at first. His side (showtime) had agreed to things without Mayweather's consent & now Mayweather is getting personally involved (the hotel room/nba game). He says mayweather is a control freak down to the smallest detail. He says bob arum comments aren't helping the fight but he's done all he can. It doesn't sound very likely for May 2.
Rafael said that now Floyd is finally looking at the deal in great detail and he's finding lots of changes/demands he wants to make.
Basically:
-- Rafael doesn't believe the fight will happen in 2015.
-- Ultimately it comes down to Floyd.
-- If the fight doesn't happen, it will be because of Floyd's "my way or the highway" ego. Not because he's "ducking", but because he's so particular about every detail. His ego needs to be preened over and over again, and if it's not...he won't fight.
https://m.soundcloud.com/hardindr/steven-a-smith-show-dan-rafael-interview-2015-02-03
He mentioned how mayweather wasn't a big part of the negotiations at first. His side (showtime) had agreed to things without Mayweather's consent & now Mayweather is getting personally involved (the hotel room/nba game). He says mayweather is a control freak down to the smallest detail. He says bob arum comments aren't helping the fight but he's done all he can. It doesn't sound very likely for May 2.
Rafael said that now Floyd is finally looking at the deal in great detail and he's finding lots of changes/demands he wants to make.
Basically:
-- Rafael doesn't believe the fight will happen in 2015.
-- Ultimately it comes down to Floyd.
-- If the fight doesn't happen, it will be because of Floyd's "my way or the highway" ego. Not because he's "ducking", but because he's so particular about every detail. His ego needs to be preened over and over again, and if it's not...he won't fight.
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From when negotiations first started, articles kept mentioning how no one was allowed to speak on who's doing the negotiating. But the public always knew who was doing the talking, Arum and CBS. Everything sounded good until Espinoza started talking. He had no say in anything but once he got involved, for whatever reason, things seem to be falling apart. Mayweather is getting more control and like I've said before, that's Showtimes' fault. And no Floyd is not doing the reading, it's Haymon.
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