MAYWEATHER TALKIN DOWN ON THE UFC

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Stupid argument here.


Of course a boxer fighting an MMA practitioner is going to get served in an MMA FIGHT.

The same way any MMA practitioner, even the best ones out there, would get their asses kicked in a straight boxing match.
 

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PsyDaL said:
"Iron" Mike has been promoted in K1 and had a staredown with Bob Sapp. They gave him a 7 figure contract on the table but guess what? He didnt comply.

Art Jimmerson. Aint that the guy who came into the cage with one hand open and the other in a boxing glove? hahahah

YEAH SAME GUY.
 
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dawun said:
You have no idea what i have researched and know, yes what you said is true if , if they get the kick, but they wouldn't get the chance in most case. so don't say it's ignorant just cause i see the real and don't think MMA are all holy than thou. The boxer will light them up before they get a chance and they MMA are tough, but they aint gonna take some of those blows that the boxers dish out, i don't care how many kicks to the head they have taken, some real power punches will drop them in no time. Mike Tyson back in the day would have knocke every one of them fools out period. Most top notch boxers today would do the same. But if the boxer tried to go to the ground or kick with them then yea of course they'd be in for it unless they had some skills in that area.
this guys a fool,id love to prove you wrong on alot of points but i gotta go to work.and you may be mistakening MMA with Jui Jitsu,MMA is not all ground fighting,they practice jus as much on there feet as well as on the ground.and you can take the hardest hitter ever in the world,and if you take him to the ground his punches are seriously deminished,it doesnt matter who you are.the strength in a punch doesnt come from your arm,it comes from your core,you need to be fully balanced on 2 feet to execute a killer momentum based hit,you take a guy off balance and theres no way he can execute a semi decent punch.plus theres a huge difference between 16 oz gloves and 4 oz gloves(if even that)
 
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I'll believe it when i see it, you aint gonna change my mind. Yeah there is no defense for kicks, but you gotta be able to get the kick off first and with someone as quick as Mayweather they would be lit up and to close to get a good kick in or knee even. sure it depends on the fighters too, it could go 50/50 we'll compromise, nothing is a sure thing in a fight, and it's not like the boxer isn't going to use any other skills if he gets attacked, some of them dudes have other natural fighting skills beyond punching.
 
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45park1904 said:
YOUR AN IDIOT
Don't get mad. You must be one of those guys who gets a tattoo and wears a muscle shirt with Tap Out on it or Roy's Mixed martial Arts Fight club walkin around the gym thinkin he's a fighter now cause him and his buddies practiced twisting eachother up in a pretzel on the ground and kickin each other like a girl.

learn to spell
YOU'RE AND IDIOT
 
Feb 7, 2006
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dawun said:
I'll believe it when i see it, you aint gonna change my mind. Yeah there is no defense for kicks, but you gotta be able to get the kick off first and with someone as quick as Mayweather they would be lit up and to close to get a good kick in or knee even. sure it depends on the fighters too, it could go 50/50 we'll compromise, nothing is a sure thing in a fight, and it's not like the boxer isn't going to use any other skills if he gets attacked, some of them dudes have other natural fighting skills beyond punching.
Some one as quick as mayweather would still get taken down even if the mma fighter came in close. you claim they would GET LIT UP and would not be able get a kick or knee off. Well whats mayweather gonna do if that same MMA fighter cliches him and throws knee or gets a takendown? You speak as if boxing alone will make you successful in MMA and you are wrong because boxing alone will make you a one dimensional fighter if you don't have other skills to complement your boxing. There are defense for kicks like checking low kicks like I explained previously or even grabing low kicks and taking your opponent down. Boxers are not used to getting kneed, takedown elbowed or kicked plain and simple. so If a Mixed martial artist is doing this to mayweather and using his grappling aswell mayweather will be defeated easily. They don't call the sport MIXED MARTIAL ARTS for nothing. These are complete fighters using multiple fighting styles and there is more then one way to defeat your opponent and boxing them is not the only way.
 
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dawun said:
Don't get mad. You must be one of those guys who gets a tattoo and wears a muscle shirt with Tap Out on it or Roy's Mixed martial Arts Fight club walkin around the gym thinkin he's a fighter now cause him and his buddies practiced twisting eachother up in a pretzel on the ground and kickin each other like a girl.

learn to spell
YOU'RE AND IDIOT

YOU'RE AN IDIOT, NOT YOU'RE AND IDIOT.HOW BOUT THAT SQUARE
 
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discuss650 said:
plain and simple, MMA fighters are well rounded fighters, a boxer just knows one thing.. BOXING.. no take down defense, no submissions, no kicks, not elbows, no knees.. just punches and everything that comes with boxing, footwork, counter punching, moving around. Im not saying boxing sucks.. im just saying realistically But if the punches connect then the MMA fighter is done.

NOT TRUE AT ALL.. ERBODY LEARNS TO FIGHT B4 YOU LEARN TO BOX.. MOST BOXERS TURN INTO BOXERS FROM FIGHT'N SO MUCH...PRETTY BOY FLYOD WOULD BEAT UP MMA FIGHTERS EASY... NO EVEN CLOSE... ONLY GUY THAT WOULD HAVE THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN WOULD BE A QUICK SUBMISSION FIGHTER..IF YOUR JUST A FIGHTER THEN HE;S GONNA BEAT YO ASS
 
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Shogun Locc said:
Some one as quick as mayweather would still get taken down even if the mma fighter came in close. you claim they would GET LIT UP and would not be able get a kick or knee off. Well whats mayweather gonna do if that same MMA fighter cliches him and throws knee or gets a takendown? You speak as if boxing alone will make you successful in MMA and you are wrong because boxing alone will make you a one dimensional fighter if you don't have other skills to complement your boxing. There are defense for kicks like checking low kicks like I explained previously or even grabing low kicks and taking your opponent down. Boxers are not used to getting kneed, takedown elbowed or kicked plain and simple. so If a Mixed martial artist is doing this to mayweather and using his grappling aswell mayweather will be defeated easily. They don't call the sport MIXED MARTIAL ARTS for nothing. These are complete fighters using multiple fighting styles and there is more then one way to defeat your opponent and boxing them is not the only way.

HA, YEAH RIGHT DUDE.. YALL MMA ACTIN LIKE ALL A BOXER KNOWS HOW TO DO IZ THROW PUNCHES.. LIKE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN IN A REAL FIGHT..YALL MUST REALLY THANK THIS MMA GUYS CAN BEAT UP AND FIGHTER IN THE WORLD
 
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Tas n Doe 4da05 said:
HA, YEAH RIGHT DUDE.. YALL MMA ACTIN LIKE ALL A BOXER KNOWS HOW TO DO IZ THROW PUNCHES.. LIKE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN IN A REAL FIGHT..YALL MUST REALLY THANK THIS MMA GUYS CAN BEAT UP AND FIGHTER IN THE WORLD
A boxer is not a complete fighter. These MMA fighters have more skills and are trained for every aspect of the fight whether it is on the ground clinching or stand up. I could care less if you believe me or not but thoes are the facts.
 

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Anaheim*Rob said:
I have to disagree with you here. During an Angel game Rex Hudler (commentator) and guest Dick Vitale had a similar argument about which sport had the better athletes and they busted out some programs from baseball, basketball, and some other sports to look at the players athletic history. The baseball players they looked up actually played more sports growing up than most of the guys from the other sports. The majority of the basketball players played only basketball, football only football, but quite a few baseball players played at least 2 sports growing up. (usually baseball and football) It was a quick argument but they made a point in that little time for the athleticism of baseball players and ole Dick Vitale was getting pissed.

Here's a few examples.

Todd Helton, 1B, Rockies. He started ahead of Peyton Manning at Tennessee. For three games, anyway, when Manning was a freshman and Helton was a junior. Then Helton suffered a season-ending knee injury, Manning replaced him, and Helton's competitive football days essentially were finished. He hasn't exactly missed football, though. Helton's .333 career average is No. 1 among active players with a minimum of 3,000 at-bats.

Josh Fields, LF, White Sox. He set the career record for touchdown passes at Oklahoma State but opted for baseball after the White Sox drafted him with the 18th pick in 2004. Good move. After a huge year in Class AAA, he'll enter spring training with a chance to win an everyday job.

Joe Mauer, C, Twins. Bobby Bowden still is holding a scholarship for Mauer, and why not? He was named the national player of the year by Parade, USA Today and Gatorade after passing for 41 touchdowns as a high school senior.

Mark DeRosa, 2B, Cubs. He started at Penn for two years and led the Quakers to a conference title as a sophomore. Penn won his first 12 starts. Impressive, even if it was the Ivy League.

Adam Dunn, LF, Reds. He was one of the nation's top recruits as a high school senior in Porter, Texas, but was beaten out by Major Applewhite when they were freshmen at Texas. His football days ended when the Longhorns asked him to move to tight end.

Jeff Francoeur, RF, Braves. No hitter is more aggressive than Francoeur, who turned down a football scholarship to Clemson.

Grady Sizemore, CF, Indians. He turned down a chance to play college football at Washington. And ask anyone who has seen him go from first to third: He never gives less than 110 percent.

Darin Erstad, CF, White Sox. Punter for Nebraska.

Carl Crawford, LF, Devil Rays. Had a scholorship to play QB at Nebraska.

John Lackey, P, Angels. Played football, baseball and basketball at Abilene High School, winning all-district first team honors.
Athleticism isn't how many sports you play, but rather how well you play those sports. So I don't give a damn if so and so played X sport and Y sport prior to doing well in Z sport. That doesn't tell me whether he excelled at either X and Y or whether he had the capacity to excel at X and Y. That just tells me that he played X and Y. YaFeelMe?
 

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Baseball players are'nt the best athletes,but it's hands down the toughest sport to play professionally.Not one NBA guy is stepping up to the plate and hitting a 93mph splitty.There's no opportunity to shine in baseball if your not a baseball player.But I could stand at the 3 point line in an NBA game and cast 3's tomorrow.
 
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Tas n Doe 4da05 said:
HA, YEAH RIGHT DUDE.. YALL MMA ACTIN LIKE ALL A BOXER KNOWS HOW TO DO IZ THROW PUNCHES.. LIKE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN IN A REAL FIGHT..YALL MUST REALLY THANK THIS MMA GUYS CAN BEAT UP AND FIGHTER IN THE WORLD
ur actin like MMA is is like a street fight when theres soooo much more than that involved in a match. i aint sayin that mma would destroy boxrs but they would if a boxer came in there cage and had the mma rules. they would be done plain and simple.

if ur a mma fighter gettin into a ring tryin to fight a boxer with they rules then there gonna get there ass handed to them simple as that.
 

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UNTIL A BOXER GETS IN THE RING OR CAGE AND DISPROVES THE WINNING RECORD MMA CURRENTLY HAS ON BOXERS...MMA IS STATISTICALLY WINNING THIS ARGUMENT. LET THE NUMBERS SPEAK BOYS...BOXERS STILL DONT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT WINS IN THE WORLD OFF MMA. SORRY BUT IT'S FACT.
 
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WXS STOMP3R said:
UNTIL A BOXER GETS IN THE RING OR CAGE AND DISPROVES THE WINNING RECORD MMA CURRENTLY HAS ON BOXERS...MMA IS STATISTICALLY WINNING THIS ARGUMENT. LET THE NUMBERS SPEAK BOYS...BOXERS STILL DONT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT WINS IN THE WORLD OFF MMA. SORRY BUT IT'S FACT.
Just to play devil's advocate, same thing can be said about an MMA fighter beating a significant boxer in the ring...
 
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Lamberto Quintero said:
Just to play devil's advocate, same thing can be said about an MMA fighter beating a significant boxer in the ring...
No, it cannot. You don't hear MMA fighters saying they can get in the boxing ring and win. Mayweather is mad because boxing is going down hill and MMA is taking its spot.

ps. Mayweather would get submitted in 20 secs in the Octagon.
 

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LOOK UP JENS PULVER HE HAS ACTUALLY HAD SOME PRO BOXING FIGHTS...AND WON. SO DONT KNOW HOW TO CALL THAT, BUT MAYWEATHER DID MAKE THE REMARK THAT BOXING IS BETTER. REMEMBER HOMIE I AM BIG BOXING BUFF AND KNOW MY HISTORY AND FACTS. BUT I AM NOT IN DENIAL EITHER. BUT BOXING WILL HAVE IT'S DAY IN MMA...IF I COULD GET ME A SOLID PROSPECT I COULD TRAIN HIM IN BOXING TAILORED FOR MMA...AND SHOW WHAT REAL BOXING CAN DO.