MAYWEATHER TALKIN DOWN ON THE UFC

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Tony

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naner12 said:
I have to disagree with this. Boxers are trained to strike/counterpunch when they are no other variables involved. It's different having to worry about legkicks and getting slammed. Can Mayweather catch someone with a shot before getting taken down? Of course. But when he's fighting an elite lightweight fighter I think he'd lose a lot more times than not.

It's the same situation with some guys that dominate submission grappling and jiu jitsu tournaments. Some make the transition into mma with no problem and some get destroyed. Being good at one thing doesn't mean you're going to be good at the other.
I hear you...
 
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Not going to go get the exact numbers, but I know for a fact Chuck and Tito made around 3 million each for UFC 66. MMA is only getting bigger.

Also if you watched early UFC you would know that it was strictly style vs style and boxing got destroyed by Jiu-jitsu. End of discussion.
 
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BROWN GUERRERO said:
Not going to go get the exact numbers, but I know for a fact Chuck and Tito made around 3 million each for UFC 66. MMA is only getting bigger.

Also if you watched early UFC you would know that it was strictly style vs style and boxing got destroyed by Jiu-jitsu. End of discussion.
In boxings defense the only actual boxer was Art Jimmerson. The early UFCs were pretty much set up to show the dominance of BJJ. The Gracies had a big hand in who fought at those early events.
 
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chuck lidell would fuck him up... i live down here in San Luis Obispo (where chuck trains and lives), and he steady driving around in his convertable ferrari, and hittin on all the college snow bunnies... he's a clown.
 
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money and popularity aside MMA is way better and entertaining to watch then long ass boxing matches. mayweather just mad cause he aint in the sport thats the future so he gonna bitch and moan, he should shut the fuck up or get in the cage and fight the best in his class since he thinks hes so fly. if i recall correctly ufc beat boxing money wise in pay per views right? just a matter of time when boxing will be a dead sport but it aint dead yet
 
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KrazeeRDM said:
money and popularity aside MMA is way better and entertaining to watch then long ass boxing matches.
It depends on the individual. I typically find most MMA fights boring. The fights usually end up on the ground where they roll around for a long time and in the rare times they are standing most fighters I've seen have very poor boxing skills.

The only thing I really like to see is a nice knee or kick to the head. That shit is always entertaining.

Don't get me wrong, Boxing can be boring at times too. But in my opinion, a great boxing match is much more entertaining than a great MMA fight.

mayweather just mad cause he aint in the sport thats the future so he gonna bitch and moan, he should shut the fuck up or get in the cage and fight the best in his class since he thinks hes so fly. if i recall correctly ufc beat boxing money wise in pay per views right? just a matter of time when boxing will be a dead sport but it aint dead yet
I'm pretty sure the record for a PPV event is held by boxing (Tyson/Lewis or Holyfield) but don't quote me on that.

Boxing will never be a dead sport and I don't understand the attitude of some MMA fans who hate on boxing so much. It's too different sports, I don't see why people can't be fans of both.

The current problem with boxing is that there isn't enough big names on regular TV, everything in PPV or HBO/Showtime. UFC is smart because they have a deal with Spike TV and have events, shows, replays, etc. on that channel and that definitely allows them to have a large audience and grow rapidly.
 

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HEAVYMETALGANGSTER said:
I think it all sums up to respecting every sports talent,its like me back in the days an now I always clown baseball players because I played football for many years,but I know they got talent an most football players cant do what baseball players do an most baseballplayers cant do what football players do
Most football players can do what baseball players can do. However, most baseball players can't do what football players can do.

Baseball players are the least athletic of all athletes. Thus, athletic people can do what baseball players can do, if given enough time to practice the sport.

There's a thing called General Intelligence and it states that if you have some intelligence in one area you'll most likely have some intelligence in another area. Then there's something I've come up with called General Athleticism and it states that if you have athletic ability in one sport you'll most likely have athletic ability in another sport. Get up on this.
 

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2-0-Sixx said:
It depends on the individual. I typically find most MMA fights boring. The fights usually end up on the ground where they roll around for a long time and in the rare times they are standing most fighters I've seen have very poor boxing skills.
Agreed. Two grown men rolling around on the ground is not entertaining and it definitely isn't skillful. Anyone can get into a fight with someone and ended up grappling with them, and

2-0-Sixx said:
Don't get me wrong, Boxing can be boring at times too. But in my opinion, a great boxing match is much more entertaining than a great MMA fight.
Yes, because there are skills involved. Athleticism. You have to be able to throw, avoid, throw, and all of that requires quickness, power, and coordination.
 
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Apples and Oranges. Both are good for you no matter what your preferences is. I grew up on boxing as long as I could remember. I still could turn on the tube and watch a good fight whether its being telecasted in spanish or english.

MMa is in a category all on its own. Some watch it for the KOs, others like myself like a good fight on the ground and see the true technicality of what it takes to fight on the ground. I respect the ground game so much words cant describe the appreciation I have. Maybe now even more now that I have rolled around with upcoming fighters. Maywhether will be begging for someone to pull an MMa fighter off his arm once an armbar has been applied to him.
Take the IFL, you are going to see a lot more fighters with boxing backgrounds during the next few seasons.
K1 ive seen a handful of pro boxers get the worst end of a beatdown.
 
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PGBD said:
Agreed. Two grown men rolling around on the ground is not entertaining and it definitely isn't skillful. Anyone can get into a fight with someone and ended up grappling with them
This has to be the dumbest shit I've heard in a minute. Go take some grappling classes and see how "unskillful" the shit actually is. I can understand if you think it's boring, that's you're opinion, but to say it takes no skill is just ignorant.
 
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PGBD said:
Let me go out on a lmb and say this, most football players can do what baseball players can do. However, most baseball players can't do what football players can do.

Baseball players are the least athletic of all athletes. Thus, athletic people can do what baseball players can do, if given enough time to practice the sport.

There's a thing called General Intelligence and it states that if you have some intelligence in one subject you'll most likely have some intelligence in another subject. Then there's something I've come up with called General Athleticism and it states that if you have athletic ability in one sport you'll most likely have athletic ability in another sport. Get up on this.
I have to disagree with you here. During an Angel game Rex Hudler (commentator) and guest Dick Vitale had a similar argument about which sport had the better athletes and they busted out some programs from baseball, basketball, and some other sports to look at the players athletic history. The baseball players they looked up actually played more sports growing up than most of the guys from the other sports. The majority of the basketball players played only basketball, football only football, but quite a few baseball players played at least 2 sports growing up. (usually baseball and football) It was a quick argument but they made a point in that little time for the athleticism of baseball players and ole Dick Vitale was getting pissed.

Here's a few examples.

Todd Helton, 1B, Rockies. He started ahead of Peyton Manning at Tennessee. For three games, anyway, when Manning was a freshman and Helton was a junior. Then Helton suffered a season-ending knee injury, Manning replaced him, and Helton's competitive football days essentially were finished. He hasn't exactly missed football, though. Helton's .333 career average is No. 1 among active players with a minimum of 3,000 at-bats.

Josh Fields, LF, White Sox. He set the career record for touchdown passes at Oklahoma State but opted for baseball after the White Sox drafted him with the 18th pick in 2004. Good move. After a huge year in Class AAA, he'll enter spring training with a chance to win an everyday job.

Joe Mauer, C, Twins. Bobby Bowden still is holding a scholarship for Mauer, and why not? He was named the national player of the year by Parade, USA Today and Gatorade after passing for 41 touchdowns as a high school senior.

Mark DeRosa, 2B, Cubs. He started at Penn for two years and led the Quakers to a conference title as a sophomore. Penn won his first 12 starts. Impressive, even if it was the Ivy League.

Adam Dunn, LF, Reds. He was one of the nation's top recruits as a high school senior in Porter, Texas, but was beaten out by Major Applewhite when they were freshmen at Texas. His football days ended when the Longhorns asked him to move to tight end.

Jeff Francoeur, RF, Braves. No hitter is more aggressive than Francoeur, who turned down a football scholarship to Clemson.

Grady Sizemore, CF, Indians. He turned down a chance to play college football at Washington. And ask anyone who has seen him go from first to third: He never gives less than 110 percent.

Darin Erstad, CF, White Sox. Punter for Nebraska.

Carl Crawford, LF, Devil Rays. Had a scholorship to play QB at Nebraska.

John Lackey, P, Angels. Played football, baseball and basketball at Abilene High School, winning all-district first team honors.
 

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naner12 said:
This has to be the dumbest shit I've heard in a minute. Go take some grappling classes and see how "unskillful" the shit actually is. I can understand if you think it's boring, that's you're opinion, but to say it takes no skill is just ignorant.
OK, I shouldn't have used the word grappling, but wrestling around like I've seen them do isn't as skillful as boxing. That's for sure.
 

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PsyDaL said:
Both are good for you no matter what your preferences is. I grew up on boxing as long as I could remember. I still could turn on the tube and watch a good fight whether its being telecasted in spanish or english.
I prefer not to watch two grisy guys holding on to eachother on the floor. I'd rather watch two highly adept boxers go back and forth while it's broadcast in english.

PsyDaL said:
MMa is in a category all on its own. Some watch it for the KOs, others like myself like a good fight on the ground and see the true technicality of what it takes to fight on the ground. I respect the ground game so much words cant describe the appreciation I have. Maybe now even more now that I have rolled around with upcoming fighters. Maywhether will be begging for someone to pull an MMa fighter off his arm once an armbar has been applied to him.
Take the IFL, you are going to see a lot more fighters with boxing backgrounds during the next few seasons.
K1 ive seen a handful of pro boxers get the worst end of a beatdown.
I read a couple of sentences of what you wrote and I'm going to respond like this; the couple of mma/ufc/whatever fights I've seen have been either brawls or wrestling matches. And neither of those require much skill. In fact, if I were to get into a fight like those I've seen in those contests, I would use a bat and get the assistance of a large group of people.

It's not a sport. It's not entertaining.