MAYWEATHER TALKIN DOWN ON THE UFC
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2-0 is right, Tyson-Lewis for most PPV money earned...$103 mill...and for most ppv buys...Tyson-Holyfield at something like 2 million buys...
I think MMA's biggest PPV was like 600K PPV buys...
Its still a growing sport...but boxing is still racking in the dough...and it looks like this De La Hoya - Mayweather fight is going to shit on all of those records...
They already made 19 million...from the gate entrances at MGM...
I think MMA's biggest PPV was like 600K PPV buys...
Its still a growing sport...but boxing is still racking in the dough...and it looks like this De La Hoya - Mayweather fight is going to shit on all of those records...
They already made 19 million...from the gate entrances at MGM...
ive done both boxing and MMA, and i will tell you straight up, MMA is much much much harder conditioning. When it comes to an actual fight, you will have the advantage being an MMA fighter rather than a Boxer, in MMA i learned takedown defense, deflecting punches, muay thai clinches, knees, elbows, western boxing, and alot of other different fighting styles along with street fighting/ law enforcement and military training and filipino martial arts (stick fighting) that shit is hard work.
Thanks for the link, good info.
So it says UFC outsold Boxing and WWE in 2006 (UFC $220m), although Boxing had it's 2nd largest year of PPV sales in its history ($177m, previous record being $200m).
So both sports are doing well in sales (which proves my point that boxing is certainly not a dead sport).
Good shit!
So it says UFC outsold Boxing and WWE in 2006 (UFC $220m), although Boxing had it's 2nd largest year of PPV sales in its history ($177m, previous record being $200m).
So both sports are doing well in sales (which proves my point that boxing is certainly not a dead sport).
Boxing Has Second-Biggest Year Ever, WWE's Domestic PPV Buyrates Collapse
The only records that the UFC has not broken are the all-time boxing records for individual events, which still stand at approximately 2.0 million buys for a heavyweight fight and approximately 1.4 million buys for a non-heavyweight fight. The upcoming fight between Oscar de la Hoya and Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is expected to break the 1.4 million mark and perhaps even approach the 2.0 million mark.
While the perception is that boxing's PPV business has rapidly declined, the fact of the matter is that 2006 was the second-biggest year in boxing history at the PPV box office, with gross PPV revenue of $177 million. That would likely be seen as a far bigger news story than it currently is, if it weren't for the fact that the UFC blew away boxing's all-time records during the same year.
The only records that the UFC has not broken are the all-time boxing records for individual events, which still stand at approximately 2.0 million buys for a heavyweight fight and approximately 1.4 million buys for a non-heavyweight fight. The upcoming fight between Oscar de la Hoya and Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is expected to break the 1.4 million mark and perhaps even approach the 2.0 million mark.
While the perception is that boxing's PPV business has rapidly declined, the fact of the matter is that 2006 was the second-biggest year in boxing history at the PPV box office, with gross PPV revenue of $177 million. That would likely be seen as a far bigger news story than it currently is, if it weren't for the fact that the UFC blew away boxing's all-time records during the same year.
Good shit!
MMa is more skillful then boxing espescially the grappling part which involves clinching and throwing strikes, takedowns, takedown defense, using the guard, passing the guard for better positions to throw strikes, submission and submission defense. Every thing in MMa takes skill so no you are incorrect. If a boxer enters mma and is not skilled in the grappling part of mma or has not trained in any grappling he will be a fish in sharks water. nuff said
Mayweather would knock out most those dudes, he's to quick to get caught in a take down and they would get tagged everytime they got close. Most top notch boxers would fuck up MMA fighters, MMA only chance would be to rush them and get a take down but even then the boxer could still punch on the ground harder than anyone they fight now. They might be able to get some kicks in too, but otherwise they would be beat down before they had a chance to use any of their mixed skills.
You have no idea what your talking about. Whats mayweather gonna do if he gets backed up in the cage. I agree that most top notch boxer have a great chance of winning in boxing but MMA is different. if a boxer goes in there bobbin and weaving his ass is gonna get clinched and knee to death. Boxers are not even use to getting kick in the leg and leg kicks take your speed away from you if you don't check them and not all mma fighters take fights to the ground. I suggest you do some research before making such ignorant statements.
You have no idea what i have researched and know, yes what you said is true if , if they get the kick, but they wouldn't get the chance in most case. so don't say it's ignorant just cause i see the real and don't think MMA are all holy than thou. The boxer will light them up before they get a chance and they MMA are tough, but they aint gonna take some of those blows that the boxers dish out, i don't care how many kicks to the head they have taken, some real power punches will drop them in no time. Mike Tyson back in the day would have knocke every one of them fools out period. Most top notch boxers today would do the same. But if the boxer tried to go to the ground or kick with them then yea of course they'd be in for it unless they had some skills in that area.
^^^ inside/outside leg kicks will distract the boxer, making him drop his guard, ive fought a boxer before.. their instict is to try and block the kick too, you forgot about muay thai knees, elbows, clinches.. all it takes is a few inside/outside leg kicks. You make it sound like the MMA fighter is not going to move around and just stand there to get hit. Theyre trained for every possible situation they could be in the ring. Boxers have to rely on the knockout punch (Ricardo Mayorga style) Since they dont have many weapons like kicks, and ground fighting. Most of these MMA fighters have strong chins too look at all the high leg kicks and shit they take to the dome and ground and pound.
to make it an even fight.. here are the candidates he can fight that are in the same weight..
matt hughes (will take him to the ground and pound)
josh koscheck ( more of a wrestler, but can stand up)
bj penn ( well rounded in kempo)
matt serra (hey he pulled an upset, heavy hands too)
georges st. pierre (good striker)
- but since dude is talking about the UFC as a whole.. i wont include PRIDE--
but put dude in the ring with ramapge jackson, chuck liddell, or mirko crocop.
matt hughes (will take him to the ground and pound)
josh koscheck ( more of a wrestler, but can stand up)
bj penn ( well rounded in kempo)
matt serra (hey he pulled an upset, heavy hands too)
georges st. pierre (good striker)
- but since dude is talking about the UFC as a whole.. i wont include PRIDE--
but put dude in the ring with ramapge jackson, chuck liddell, or mirko crocop.
just so u know kicks have a better reach than a punch and its fighting instinct to block that and when they try there not used to blocking it and they would get takin down or even knocked out. and if they have the floor they have no idea whatsoever how to defend and would get pounded or submitted. if a mma fighter went at a boxer to grapple and they didnt connect well wit a punch then hes screwed. the only way mayweather would win this fight is by kockout and that prolly wouldnt happen cause the mma figther isnt dumb and would do opposite shit knowin he dont ahve to worry about the other things. it would be an easy win for the MMA fighter i think
AY HOMIE MY BASE IS BOXING. IVE FOUGHT IN TOURNY'S FROM FIVE YEARS OLD UP UNTIL MY TEENS. MY UNCLE WAS A PROFESSIONAL MIDDLE WEIGHT BOXER IN THE 50'S AND SOME OF MY COUSINS ARE GOLDEN GLOVES CHAMPS.
SO BASICALLY IM FROM A BOXING FAMILY.
NOW DONT GET ME WRONG ANYONE HAS A CHANCE IN A FIGHT WHETHER IT BE A LUCKY PUNCH, MENTAL ERROR, OR ENVIROMENTS THAT ALTER THE FIGHT. BUT BOXING HAS NO DEFENSE FOR A SHOOT OR LEG KICKS.
-UFC 1 ART JIMMERSON WHO HAD WON 15 STRAIGHT PRO BOXING MATCHES, LOST TO ROYCE GRACIE(JIU-JITSU) VIA A CHOKE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY...NOW JIMMERSON WASNT EXACTLY A WORLD REKNOWN CHAMP BUT NONETHELESS HE REPPED BOXING...AND DIDNT EVEN HAVE ANY ANSWER OR SOLUTION TO THE GROUND CLINIC PUT ON BY ROYCE.
-IN UFC 5 STEVE JENNUM FOUGHT MELTON BOWEN WHO WAS A FORMER IBF CHAMP HE WAS DEFEATED VIA AN ARM BAR. BUT HE DID GIVE A GOOD FIGHT AND SHOWED HE COULD TAKE SOME SHOTS.
-PRIDE 32 PHIL BARONI VS YOSUKE NISHIJIME A FORMER BOXER WHO HELD SOME MINOR TITLE WAS TAKEN DOWN AND TAPPED VIA A KIMURA
THESE ARE THE ONLY BOXERS IM AWARE OF WHO HAVE FOUGHT MMA. NOT EXACTLY THE BEST BUT STILL ENOUGH TO PROVE BOXING ALONE IS NOT THE END ALL KNOW ALL IN FIGHTING.
THE ONLY BOXER WHO HAS DONE WELL IS BUTTERBEAN BUT HE REALLY WASNT EVEN CONSIDERED A TRUE BOXER BEING HE GOT HIS RISE THROUGH IRONMAN FIGHTS AND EVEN HE HAS USED SUBMISSIONS TO END FIGHTS...SORRY HOMIE YOU NEED TO ENLIGHTEN YOURSELF.
TYSON WOULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTING TO SEE FIGHT MMA DUE TO HIS BUILT AND HIS STREET FIGHTING EXPERIENCE BUT EVENTUALLY HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GOT.