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S.SAVAGE

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Gemini,

You should know after all these years posting in BART, that if you are over 30 years old, or have ever made a rap that did not go quadruple platinum, then by default your opinion is NULL & VOID, & there is a high possibility you might just be a hater.

go get yourself a snap-back cap, some skinny jeans & multi-colored shoes & THEN we might wanna hear what you have to say.

until then we don't wanna hear it because you are older than 30 & people older than 30 cannot have an opinion on rap music.

:cheeky:
 
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Gemini,

You should know after all these years posting in BART, that if you are over 30 years old, or have ever made a rap that did not go quadruple platinum, then by default your opinion is NULL & VOID, & there is a high possibility you might just be a hater.

go get yourself a snap-back cap, some skinny jeans & multi-colored shoes & THEN we might wanna hear what you have to say.

until then we don't wanna hear it because you are older than 30 & people older than 30 cannot have an opinion on rap music.

:cheeky:

The fuck are you talking about? I'm over 30 and still listen to some rap, and most of it is garbage. The problem today is that it's over-saturated. Everybody thinks they can rap these days. I've been listening to rap for 20 years, and it's at an all-time low right now. Skinny jeans and multi-colored shoes, get the fuck outta here.
 

thizz

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Taste is relative to that generation. Car shows for example like you said has it's generation gap. Import car shows would have never existed back in the day but that's what's going on today. Every issue most people have with Hip-Hop today is reflective of what's going on in society today as opposed to "back in the day". I think because of the internet and social networks more people are narcissistic and it's coming out in the music. Like Gemini said it shows in facebook post from average people. Society today is different then before so you are right the music is and will be different.
 

S.SAVAGE

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The fuck are you talking about? I'm over 30 and still listen to some rap, and most of it is garbage. The problem today is that it's over-saturated. Everybody thinks they can rap these days. I've been listening to rap for 20 years, and it's at an all-time low right now. Skinny jeans and multi-colored shoes, get the fuck outta here.
LOL, wallets... cool out dude.

I am old as shit.

obviously I was playing devils advocate.
 
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Great thread from one old timer to another. Ive never had a problem listening to all genre's of music so I could put up with the music thats coming out right now. Watchin the newer generation listen to music whether it be on their ipods, cell phone only tells me music will never die cause I could go way back to the days just reminiscing trying to nsync tape and a blank tape have one on pause/record and pause and make my mixtapes a task that died with the times, now its just a click n drag and wahlaaa music lol. Back in the days I would try to teach the old folks how to break dance, now my neices n nephews are showing me how to do these trendy dances, just gotta take it for what its worth....
 
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shit i aint gon even lie, i cant even remember the last time i bought an album. i mean i buy all my family shit, i like they music, for the most part i buy everyones shit from fillmoe cuz i dig they shit, except for messy marv. and i buy yuk shit, and ap9 and tha jacka. and dubb 20. but thats pretty much it,

i stick to the shit i already know and like.

plus a lot of artist just out right give me they shit, or i end up promoting some shit and getting it free anyway. iono, thats just me tho..
 
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old rap music is still good in my opinion but i can see how someone could listen to some old rap that they used to love and say to themselves "wtf was i thinking" while on the flipside being dissapointed with new rap thats coming out today. but who is to say whats better? its comparing apples and oranges. i dont even listen to anything but the shit im working on or the radio when im with my girl. ill occasionally check out new albums but mostly just chec it 0ut to see whats relevant. same thing on the web, ill check out some shit but not cause i like it or im a fan just to see whats relevant.

but to me its like sports. when i was younger i liked the 49ers they had montana and rice, that was my team. i also liked the A's they had conseco, mcguire, henderson, that was my team. nowadays i watch the 49ers or the A's and i dont know the fuck is who so and they dont have none of the players that i like.lol. so now i dont have no team. i can still watch a game but its not the same. so people ask me who is my team and im like whoevers winning.

so basically its the same game with different players.................
 
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shit i aint gon even lie, i cant even remember the last time i bought an album. i mean i buy all my family shit, i like they music, for the most part i buy everyones shit from fillmoe cuz i dig they shit, except for messy marv. and i buy yuk shit, and ap9 and tha jacka. and dubb 20. but thats pretty much it,

..
Seems like a fair amount muusic purchasing goin on *nods head in agreement"
 
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What I meant by some of the music sounding tight back them oppose to now, is that I could still bump an old Run DMC or an LL. Cool J, Public Enemy, B-Legit, The Click to anything off the Death Row / G Funk era and still sounds good today. A lot of that is in fact timeless music.

A whole lot of it a little after all that, is in fact trash.
 

ThaG

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What I meant by some of the music sounding tight back them oppose to now, is that I could still bump an old Run DMC or an LL. Cool J, Public Enemy, B-Legit, The Click to anything off the Death Row / G Funk era and still sounds good today. A lot of that is in fact timeless music.

A whole lot of it a little after all that, is in fact trash.
Well yes, but "a little after all that" would probably mean the period after 1996-1997 and for me, hip-hop started going downhill exactly around 1997. So it is not like the late 90s were a golden age or anything, from somewhere around 1997-1998 forward the average album was thrash and the average major label album was even poorer; before that the average album was mostly good. Which doesn't mean that there weren't a lot of garbage albums before that, there were, but if you saw a new album from an artists you didn't know, the chances that you would like the album were higher than the chances that you would be disappointed
 
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Rap for the most part is a young man's game with a couple exceptions for the really talented.

I think it's lightweight bananas to think all you 40 year olds should relate to this shit anymore.

Plus it's not like our parents that were into Motown necessarily fuck with Boy 2 Men or if they like the Rolling Stones they fuck with Metallica.

It's a geneational thang IMO
They might prefer the Beatles over Green Day, but I still hear alot more older folks who listened to a genre 20-30 years ago say oh, I like that beyonce, or Rihanna, or that Franz Fernidad. I think it's less with the hiphoppers 28 and up because this new generation don't have no historical backing, like at all.

Where you could hear Snoop talking about the Delfonics or Kanye with Chaka Kahn, Raekwon with Shalamar, etc. young niggas think Eminem is old school. This has largely to do, at least I think, with black culture and how many of these 80's young adults, 90's kids don't/didn't have strong households, playin some good shit for them plus this fucked up mentality that started in black culture with that fuck them old niggas attitude. Rock artist, and R&B, etc. the artists in those genre always talk about old singers, groups they have a sense of history, artistry etc. That shit went out of style with rap, once the niggas born in the 70's got old.

Also, the corporatization of rap brought in more money then the music has ever seen, but it killed the spirit of the music. Remember rap is still a part of Hip Hop -and even all the 90's gangsta rappers reference Hip Hop shit Tay said he was a b-boy and battle rapper- And hip hop gives rap its rules: be fresh, stylish, don't bite, you can be kicked off the mic/stage if you wack, rock the crowd, keep shit hype. All that shit don't matter no more...the hip hop in rap is dead, so in essence the music is a shell of what it used to be.

My book for the day.
 
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And I stay listenin to new music I'm a music lover, and there's a few of us on here who listen to new shit all the time, the coincidence between all of us it's hardly new rap -and we're 20's up- why because rap isn't progressing and being fresh like indie rock has done for rock, etc. the only sub-genre of rap to really move forward is abstract hip hop instrumentals and there's crews like OF, ASAP, etc., the irony of that is with all 3 of those one hardly has any lyrics, the other satirizes mainstream radio rap alot, and the 3rd is largely influenced by houston screw music from the 90's.