Is Manny Pacquiao ducking Floyd Mayweather?

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Is Manny Pacquiao ducking Floyd Mayweather

  • Yes he is, and has been for quite sometime.

    Votes: 11 37.9%

  • No, Floyd is ducking Manny Pacquiao.

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • I don't want to answer because I have too much pride to admit it's Manny

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I gotta admit, first I thought it was Floyd doing the ducking, but it's obviously Manny Pacquiao.

    Votes: 4 13.8%
  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
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With his biggest payday in the balance – a bout of global interest with Floyd Mayweather – welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao’s personal and professional lives are in turmoil.


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The day after his disputed majority decision victory over Juan Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao wanted to surprise his wife, Jinkee, with a ceremony renewing their vows at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

But she apparently refused, according to several sources intimately familiar with the Pacquiao camp, citing his alleged infidelities. After a lengthy discussion at the hotel, they say, Jinkee refused to go through with the ceremony unless Pacquiao fired his agent, Michael Koncz.

“I have no knowledge of that,” said Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum.

“I don’t know who the f--- gave you that information,” said Koncz. “I’m not going to discuss Manny and Jinkee’s personal business in the media.”

That’s fair enough, if not exactly a denial. But even Pacquiao’s longtime trainer and confidante, Freddie Roach — who had predicted a knockout against Marquez — admitted that his fighter was not at his best on Saturday night.

“I think distractions outside the ring got to him,” Roach said in an interview Monday at his Wild Card gym in Hollywood.

Roach refused to specify those distractions, merely saying “they aren’t excuses.” But it’s clear there is serious disagreement within the Pacquiao camp on a variety of fronts, including the fighter's marriage, his training habits, and his next opponent. When asked whom he wants for Pacquiao's next opponent, Roach said emphatically: “Floyd Mayweather.”


When asked whom Pacquiao wanted next, he responded again: “Floyd Mayweather.”

People have been talking about Mayweather-Pacquiao almost as long as they fantasized about Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield. But now would seem the ideal time to actually make the match. What the world suddenly dismisses as a disputed Pacquiao victory actually represents the best-yet opportunity to make the fight of this still-young century. Only last week, Mayweather’s camp — uncharacteristically explicit in regard to its prospective Filipino foe — made known its preference for a May 5 date with Pacquiao.

Just as Holyfield’s lackluster showing against Bobby Czyz helped make the Tyson fight, Pacquaio’s performance against Marquez — whom Floyd handled so easily a couple of years ago — should fully incentivize the Mayweather camp.

Nevertheless, immediately after the fight, Arum was talking about making Pacquiao-Marquez IV instead of Pacquiao-Mayweather.

“Bob said, ‘We don’t need Mayweather. We can do a fourth fight,’ ” Roach recalled.

“That’s what he said in the ring.”

Arum is not to be blamed. It’s good business, as he promotes both Pacquiao and Marquez. Plus, it’s a good way to stick it to Mayweather and his promoter, Al Haymon, both of whom he loathes (the feeling, rest assured, is mutual).

Rather, the responsibility — on many levels — now belongs to Pacquiao.

At some point, Roach argued, “Bob has to give Manny what he wants. If Manny says, ‘I want Mayweather,’ Bob will have to give him Mayweather.”

In other words, it comes down to how hard Pacquiao pushes for the Mayweather fight.

“He needs to be pushy,” said Roach. “He’s got to step up and tell (Arum) who he wants to fight.”

“Freddie can say whatever he wants,” said Arum. “I’m going to sit with Manny and do whatever Manny wants to do.”


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Take a look at the round-by-round analysis of Manny Pacquiao's win over Juan Manuel Marquez.
In fact, Pacquiao needs to make his choices plain on a number of fronts: with his wife, his promoter and his trainer. For two fights now, Pacquiao has been less than diligent in listening to his strength and conditioning coach, Alex Ariza.

The last two training camps have seen Pacquiao show great enthusiasm for running the hills of Los Angeles' Griffith Park, but not for following Ariza’s advice. There are those in Pacquiao’s camp who blame the cramping and fatigue in his calves on his reluctance to abide by Ariza’s regimen.

“The biomechanics of running up and down hills is different than what’s required in boxing,” said Ariza. “Manny is a side-to-side fighter. His strength is lateral movement.”

Ariza also refused to address personal issues, but allowed that he met with the fighter Sunday to review a tape of the previous night’s bout with Marquez. It was the second consecutive fight that Pacquiao complained of stiffness in his legs. It was also, Ariza said, the second consecutive fight in which he shrugged off the coach’s track work and agility drills.

Ariza joined Team Pacquiao in 2008, after the second disputed victory over Marquez. The years since have seen Pacquiao move up in weight to become a global brand with consecutive victories over David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley and Marquez. Within the camp, there is a feeling that the last two (both decisions) have been distinctly less impressive than the previous six.

“It’s very simple,” Ariza told him Sunday. “My way is Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito. Your way is Mosley and Marquez.”

It’s the champ’s choice.

It always is.

And quite suddenly, Manny Pacquiao has a lot of them to make.
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No excuses. But Pacquiao looked confused when he was being interviewed after the fight, like he was thinking of something else.

Maybe the shit with his wife was fucking up his head....??

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MaC A$$ ViC

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if this fight never happens, it will tarnish both of their careers, even if floyd ends with a goose egg in the loss column. you cant be named the best fighter ever if you didnt fight the second best fighter of your time.

fuck pac fuck mayweather fuck arum fuck all these greedy scumbags
 
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Manny has got to fight him no question about that

but LOL @ Floyd and his team NOW going way out of there way calling Manny out guarantee you if that Marquez fight wasnt as close and Manny shut Marquez down gayweather and his team wouldnt even be opening there mouths right now
 
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HERESY said:
What shit with his wife?
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The day after his disputed majority decision victory over Juan Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao wanted to surprise his wife, Jinkee, with a ceremony renewing their vows at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

But she apparently refused, according to several sources intimately familiar with the Pacquiao camp, citing his alleged infidelities. After a lengthy discussion at the hotel, they say, Jinkee refused to go through with the ceremony unless Pacquiao fired his agent, Michael Koncz.
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From my post above....

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well, just prior to that ceremony of renewing their vows, at the end of October, it was supposedly revealed pac has another illegitimate kid. so that's why she said no apparently.






News spread fast after the popular tabloid Bulgar published several photos showing the christening of the supposed lovechild of Manny Pacquiao and Kat Ordoñez, a 22-year-old Culinary Arts student. The baptismal of the child, who is almost 1 year of age, caught attention because of the bigtime ninongs that included actor Philip Salvador, singer/composer Lito Camo, and the People’s Champ himself.

The day after, Kat Ordoñez denied the allegation in a showbiz program, saying that the father of her child is Congressman Pacquiao’s former assistant who is now working in Dubai. Speculations continued: How come Manny attended the event from start to finish, even as he had a very important taping for his game show that same day? News said he looked like he was even entertaining the guests and was grinning from ear to ear the whole time.
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No, I would like to say fuck all the Manny fans, that didn't force their overhype catchweight king Manny to submit to OSDT a year ago at the very least. You fans let this guy get away with ducking the biggest fight in boxing for a tablespoon of blood. You Manny fans let your hate for shit talking, money flashing, "Money' Mayweather, blind you to the fact that Mayweather offered this dude OSDT with 14-day no testing before the fight March 2010, and Manny duck out on the fight. For two year all you heard was Mayweather is scared of Manny, Mayweather is ducking Manny. Now please listen (MANNY FANS) Manny's card has been pulled, his bluff has been called, OSDT is not a problem, it's time to step up, and fight Mayweather..
 
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bigface said:
Mayweather was fighting 4 cases, and he still looked good beat Ortiz ass. I'm sick of the BULLSHIT EXCUSES>>>
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don't forget the second time around floyd had to "respect the courts" and thus couldn't fight.

Let's not act like this is ALL pacquiao here. There is plenty of blame to go around of why this fight didn't happen over the past couple years. Frankly, everyone involved on both sides from pac to floyd to golden boy to top rank and to everyone else in-between have some of the blame on their hands.

Now, as for May 5th of 2012 or whatever, if what is being said about a marquez rematch is true, CLEARLY 100% that's Pacquiao & Top Rank's fault, no doubt about it. But that doesn't rewrite history either.
 
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Tony said:
Wow so it's true that Pacquiao was trickin' on his wife?
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Come on pimp.......


You think Mayweather is only fuckin that dime piece he has too? I mean these dudes got broads fallen at their feet where ever they go. And look, Mannys wife ain't no ugly bitch.......she look good too, but these young broads are dime a dozen for boxing champions like Mayweather and Pac.


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JLMACN said:
Come on pimp.......


You think Mayweather is only fuckin that dime piece he has too? I mean these dudes got broads fallen at their feet where ever they go. And look, Mannys wife ain't no ugly bitch.......she look good too, but these young broads are dime a dozen for boxing champions like Mayweather and Pac.


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Lol, spoken like a true Mac.... you really are a Mac huh.... LMFAO!!
 
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It's always been known pac is a bit of playboy himself, he's had lots of relationships outside of jinkee. And frankly, I think in the Philippines that in itself is not that big of a deal. But having kid(s) outside of marriage, that's a different story.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Good to see Roach wants Mayweather next. Now if he can only convince Pac to do the right thing and say fuck Arum...


@FreddieRoach: @floydmayweather 1st choice if he comes to table well take fight any day
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IF he comes to the table?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

TEAM MAYWEATHER is pretty much begging to fight manny!!! LOL @ freddie!
 
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dookie1 said:
^^^^ ?
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I am just saying that yes his camp is now saying "Let's fight"..."Lets fight".....but what are the details? 50/50 split? 20/80? 60/40? What are the blood tests? Can Pac train in Phillipines? Is the case against Mayweather going to get dropped?

These are all details that you sit at a table and discuss. Not use the media to do it. Both camps just need to Shut the Fuck up and do a real negotiation with Lawyers, fuck the promoters. This shit don't need any promotion. Everyone will buy and Everyone will watch it! It's a fact.



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