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Breaking: @FloydMayweather & @GoldenBoyBoxing have been told @trboxing won't negotiate Pacquiao-FM in order to pursue 4th fight with Marquez

The truth about Manny's ducking is getting exposed..
 
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Floyd Mayweather Jr. aide: No megafight
By Dan Rafael

The latest round of negotiations for the potential megafight between welterweight champions Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. are over before they have even begun.

Leonard Ellerbe, one of Mayweather's advisers, and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer both told ESPN.com Monday that they were notified that Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank was not interested in coming to the table.

"We have been informed that Bob Arum is not interested in pursuing a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao at this time," Schaefer said.

Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz in his return to the ring after 16 months off in September, and Pacquiao eked out a controversial majority decision against rival Juan Manuel Marquez in their third meeting Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

That set the table for the showdown that looms as the biggest money fight in boxing history, especially with Mayweather announcing two weeks ago that he planned to return May 5 at the MGM Grand and, according to Ellerbe, wanted to "make the biggest fight possible and everyone knows what that fight is, the little fella (Pacquiao)."

However, that does not appear to be the plan Arum and Pacquiao have, even if they had said they were open to it before the Marquez fight.

Schaefer said the notification came in an email from retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, the mediator who has worked closely with the sides to settle numerous lawsuits and issues in recent years.

"I am sick and tired of Bob Arum twisting the truth. It's another case of 'yesterday I was lying, today I'm telling the truth,' " Schaefer said, invoking Arum's most famous quote. "The truth of the matter is that we received this afternoon an email from retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who has informed us that Top Rank is pursuing a rematch with Marquez and, therefore, is not interested in immediate talks for a possible Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. This is obviously as clear as it can be that they have no intentions of making a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. Therefore, Floyd Mayweather will have no other choice than to move on and identify and lock in another opponent for his ring return on May 5."

Schaefer said the plan was to use Weinstein to help them make the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight because he is trusted by both sides and intimately familiar with the problems between the rival promotional companies.

"Judge Weinstein is respected by both parties and mediated issues between Top Rank and Golden Boy before, so the plan was to see if he could help facilitate such a fight. Floyd's team really wanted to get this fight done," Schaefer said. "If you just sit down with Arum, he can at any time have one of his fits, one of his 'f--- you' attacks, and the likelihood that he would have a 'f--- you' attack in front of a retired judge seemed less likely than if Arum and me would be alone in a room."

Arum told ESPN.com that he knew nothing about an email and claimed that nobody from his company had communicated anything about making -- or not making -- a possible Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.

But Arum did say, "We are pursuing a fourth fight with Marquez. As far as doing anything definitively, we aren't ready to do anything definitively. When we are ready to make a determination of what we are going to do, we will do it. We are not going to do this in the press. We will do what is in the best interest of ourselves and our client and make a decision when it's time to. If we decide we want to do a rematch with Marquez, there is no reason to sit down with Mayweather. If we want to explore a Mayweather fight, we will sit down with them. But I'm not going to sit down with them just because it's a good show."

Ellerbe was just as upset as Schaefer was.

[Pacquiao promoter Bob] Arum told ESPN.com that he knew nothing about an email and claimed that nobody from his company had communicated anything about making -- or not making -- a possible Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.
"In my opinion, you have three cowards -- Bob Arum, (Pacquiao trainer) Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao," Ellerbe told ESPN.com. "Now we all know the truth once and for all why this fight hasn't been made. It should be clear to everyone that they don't care what the fans want, especially when Floyd is ready, willing and able to fight Manny Pacquiao now. Floyd said if this isn't clear, he doesn't know what is.

"All along we know why the fight isn't being made. This is the perfect opportunity. Both guys just fought. This is the fight the fans want to see, and it's a disgrace that they are not willing to give the fans what they want. In my opinion, there are three reasons why Arum doesn't want the fight. He knows there is no way that Manny Pacquiao can win, it kills his cash cow, and he wants to do in-house fights where he controls both sides. I said all along why this fight hasn't been made to this point. Manny Pacquiao knows, Bob Arum knows and Freddie Roach knows."

Ellerbe said he and Schaefer would begin exploring potential May 5 opponents for Mayweather.

"We have a number of options, and we will evaluate that and give the fans the biggest fight we can give them," he said. "But before we can get started (on a Pacquiao fight), Top Rank doesn't even want to listen. They're not even interested in Floyd Mayweather. They want no part of Floyd Mayweather. They have no interest in the little fella fighting Floyd. Manny Pacquiao needs to stand up, in my opinion, and tell his promoter that he wants to fight Floyd Mayweather next and stop hiding behind his promoter."

Ellerbe said Mayweather (42-0, 26 KOs) did not watch as Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KOs) turned in a shaky performance on Saturday night because he was making a paid appearance at a nightclub in Virginia. Mayweather came out of a 21-month retirement in September 2009 and fought Marquez, dropping him in the second round and winning a near-shutout decision, a far more dominating performance than Pacquiao has had against him in any of their three bouts.

Manny fans do you want me to stop posting facts about your GOD Manny ducking Mayweather?? How does that crow taste..
 
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Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...#ixzz1djv1hgs0

Khan urges Pacquiao to consider his future after controversial win over Marquez

By Jeff Powell

Last updated at 12:03 AM on 15th November 2011

Amir Khan is advising the great Manny Pacquiao to retire sooner rather than later or risk losing his cherished status as the greatest pound-for-pound fighter in the world.

Britain’s world light-welterweight champion was a ringside commentator at Pacquiao’s narrow escape from defeat by Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night and became increasingly worried for his celebrated friend and spar-mate.

As controversy raged over the majority decision with which Pacquiao held on to his world welterweight crown – a verdict which the Mexican and all his countrymen damned as another great robbery in their close-fought trilogy – Khan said: ‘Manny doesn’t need to keep taking that one more fight which might end up taking some of the gloss of his great legacy as the best boxer in the world.
Triumph: Manny Pacquiao beat Juan Manuel Marquez in Las Vegas

Triumph: Manny Pacquiao beat Juan Manuel Marquez in Las Vegas


‘He’s got away with it against Marquez. Even I had him losing by two rounds. He’s my friend and I’m happy for him that he won. But for his sake we have to be honest. He would not beat Floyd Mayweather on this performance.
‘He is a legend already but he has to be careful now. He has some thinking to do. He has so much on his plate, what with his political work as a Congressman back home in the Philippines and everything else.’

Khan spoke up even though the earlier Pacquiao hangs up the gloves, the less chance of him landing a monster pay night against the thriller from Manila.

The pair have always insisted they will not fight each other but Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum has given the first serious indication here that it could happen.
Controversial: Some commentators felt Marquez deserved at least a draw

Pacquiao might feel all the more inclined to do so after these comments from Khan, who is beginning to believe that he could defeat his 32-year-old friend and mentor.

When I asked him if he, as well as Mayweather, might beat the Pacquiao we watched in the MGM Grand Garden, this was Khan’s diplomatic answer:

‘Well, let me just say that in our sparring lately he’s not the one getting the better of it.’

Confirmation of that came on Monday when sources in Pacquiao’s camp revealed that he has decided not to spar with Khan again.

Arum was lining up Pacquiao for a spring fight against alternative light-welterweight champion Timothy Bradley, who backed off a unification fight with Khan to box on the undercard here.

Bradley stopped fading veteran ex-champ Joel Casamayor but Khan would prefer Pacquiao to go ahead with the arrangement rather than a fourth war with Marquez. Khan says: ‘Of course Manny would beat Bradley, who would be easy for me. But it’s never going to be easy for Manny against Marquez because their clash of styles works against him.’

Nevertheless Pacquiao and his esteemed trainer Freddie Roach feel obliged to offer Marquez yet another re-match, with Roach saying: ‘If it happens I will to do my job a little better, I guess. I fully expected Manny to knock him out this time but we still have to find a way to overcome his counter-punching.’

Pacquiao insists he wants to settle the arguments once and for all and Arum wants to put on the fourth fight, not least to scotch the ‘ridiculous’ allegations that the scoring was fixed, adding: ‘The fights between these two are so close that the rounds are very difficult to score. A lot of people thought Marquez won yet the computer stats show Manny throwing and landing more punches.’
Confident: Marquez thought he had done enough to beat Pacquiao

Confident: Marquez thought he had done enough to beat Pacquiao

To help rebut the accusation of fight rigging, they might coax Marquez out of his threatened retirement, at 38, by offering him home advantage in Mexico on May 5. That is a national day there and potentially another huge pay day, with the Aztec Stadium in Mexico City a sure-fire 120,000 sell out.

Khan, meanwhile, is heading for Washington on December 10 and a testing title defence against American Lamont Peterson in his home town.

That marks his return to Sky Sports. Then, unless Bradley becomes available, he will move up to light-welterweight in preparation for challenging Mayweather himself.

However, the new Sky deal is predicated on three fights in America, thereby making it unlikely he will be granted his wish for a homecoming fight in England

Wow Manny don't retire to duck Mayweather.
 
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Maybe Mayweather can find a bigger challenge out there than Manny.
I'm sure he can...

Manny vs JMM 4.
Why? So they can either give Manny a close nod again, or hope he convincingly beats him so they can "close the book". It's stupid. Good for Marquez though. Another payday but I don't see him having much motivation this time around.

I just hope Mayweather doesn't fight someone like Morales, Maidana, etc.
Bradley would be good if he can move up in weight.
 
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Khan, Roach Turn Attention To Mayweather Clash in 2012

Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com

Amir Khan wants to face Floyd Mayweather in the next 12 months. The 24-year-old light-welterweight world champion says he will be ready to take him on a year down the line, when he has moved up a division. Khan defends his WBA and IBF titles against Lamont Peterson on December 10th, live on HBO and Sky Sports HD, but has begun the countdown to that by calling out the man many consider the best fighter on the planet.

A long-awaited showdown between his stablemate Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather is the talk of boxing but the boy from Bolton, who turns 25 two days before the Peterson clash, would have no hesitation in beating the Filipino to the richest prize in the sport.

But Khan, who has lost just once in 27 professional fights and is a two-weight world champion, believes he can spring a major surprise and end 'Money's' proud unbeaten record.

"A Mayweather fight, you know that fight can happen within the next nine to twelve months," he said. "It's a fight that I want, it's a fight that the public want - it's a public demand fight and also boxing fans would love to see that fight instead of Mayweather fighting someone they know he'd beat.

"Against me Mayweather will have problems and it will be a tough fight for him. By the time that fight will come I'll be 25 - I'll be more mature, more stronger, more experienced. It'll be a perfect time for me."

Khan's claims were backed up by trainer Freddie Roach, just days after Pacquiao disappointed against Juan Manuel Marquez.

Pac-Man was given a controversial majority decision and the trainer admitted afterwards that he does struggle to handle cute counter-punchers like the Mexican and Mayweather. But Roach is in no doubt that Khan has the speed and power to prevail if the fight is made at welterweight.

"That would be a great fight for us," he said. "I would love that fight next if he moves up to 147 because I think Amir at 147 will be bigger, stronger and more resilient than ever and I love that fight."

Manny really is ducking Mayweather.
 
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I can not understand why Marquez would want to fight Pacman again?????

Someone explain that to me. If he didn't win the last 1, he ain't winning the next one.

Pac needs to make the Mayweather fight happen on his end. It's fucked up that Arum is already saying they won't fight Mayweather next. Real fucked up.

I hope it's a strategy though and not the truth.

PS - I would not be interested in a Khan Vs. Mayweather match. Khan is just wanting Pac to retire so he can get Pac's fights. Someone beat Khan's ass already.....




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Ellerbe: After Floyd KO's Pacquiao, 'Marquez 4' Still There

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By Chris LaBate

Leonard Ellerbe, adviser to WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., doesn't see a reason for Manny Pacquiao to stage an immediate fourth fight with Juan Manuel Marquez. Last Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Pacquaio won a controversial twelve round majority decision over Marquez. Mayweather plans to fight on May 5 at the MGM Grand, and negotiations for a Pacquiao fight were set to begin, but now the Filipino superstar and his promotional team, Top Rank, are going to pursue a fourth clash with Marquez instead.

Ellerbe expects Pacquaio to force a clash with Mayweather, and then pursue a fourth clash with Marquez in the future.

“I think Manny Pacquiao is going to step up and say, 'I want to fight Floyd Mayweather,' ” Ellerbe said to the Grand Rapids Press. “He is an honorable guy, his country admires him, and I think he'll step up. Otherwise, he'll disappoint his own fans, and I don't think he'll do that. They could make [the Marquez] fight anytime. When Floyd knocks out Manny Pacquiao, that fight will still be there. They can still make that fight after the chapter on Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is closed.”


Shit getting ugly out here Manny Fans.. LOL..