Is it time for the world to give up religion? Probably

[2-0-Sixx]

I honestly believe that without established moral codes keeping people from violence as most religions (except Islam) do, we would have even more misery and bloodsheed in our world.

It’s hard to imagine that we could have more misery and bloodshed then what the word currently has today.

Your poster presupposes two things 1. That religion has an indescribably bad effect 100 percent of the time on all who espouse it, and 2. That the people of the world are intellectually, socially, and culturally ready to dispose of their gods and goddesses and simply live in Logic Land with the rest of the atheists.

1). The author makes no such claim.
2). The author makes no such claim.

How you came to the conclusion that the author presupposes these two things is beyond me.


No one is saying that religion will magically disappear over night- if it did, then I’m sure you would be right- the idiots of the world would probably commit mass suicide (is that a good or bad thing?). What the author is saying is that religion is a major factor for much of the mayhem and destruction we see in the world today. There is no denying this- the Quran that teaches its followers that women are only worth half a man, the Jews that believe they are gods chosen people, etc. (I can go on and on and you would agree with me). The author is simply saying that it’s the 21st century and that we as a whole need to grow the fuck up. The author never states on how to do this, never makes a claim that the stupids of the world could switch from religious fanatic to atheist overnight. You drew those conclusions.

Religion is their only reason to abstain from wholesale slaughter, murder, and destruction. I'm not saying that in the absence of religion, people lose morals. I'm saying that in many cases it is the only thing keeping local, regional, and ethnic conflicts at bay.

Pffft. Much like the wholesale slaughter, murder and destruction they are currently involved in? Religion has never prevented murder, war, rape, destruction, etc., in fact it’s the exact opposite. Religion and morals in the same sentence is a freakin joke.

Assuming that everyone drop this torch and just enlighten themselves is ludicrous on several counts.

Again, no where did the author claim that people could all of a sudden drop religion and become atheists. It’s a learning process and it takes education, as well as social improvements. If you look at the most religious countries of the world they are nearly always the poorest and have the lowest average IQ.

I do agree that there are a number of other factors involved in world violence, but religion does play a major role and often times, is the leading force behind aggression.

Religion is that cause of mankind's problems… all our problems are spawned from religion

The author never made these claims.

Bin Laden's main beefs have to do with the price of oil, the Israeli state, and American military presence in the Middle East.

And religion is the tool that he uses to justify violence, as does Bush, et al.

 

[The Duke of Earl]

but bush doesn't believe in god , he just goes through the motions to gain support. the most disturbing thing i heard a while ago from two people was "i'd vote for bush because he's a christian"

 

[2-0-Sixx]

but bush doesn't believe in god

I don’t know how anyone could make this claim. Based on his speeches, he is a Christian. Unless you know him personally, you cannot know for certain if he believes in god or not.

Regardless, Bush does use Christianity as a tool to gain support and to justify certain policies/actions. This further justifies the claim that religion is negative on society. If the people of the US were educated and lacked such strong beliefs in Christianity, Bush couldn’t get away with half the shit he’s done.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

Bush knows God personally. And they are cronies.

 

[shoowilla]

And who the fuck are you with your 14 posts?

HAHAHA i didnt know post counts matter, so the people with thousands of posts are the ones that hold weight around here? not that it matters but i been on the siccness since May of 2000.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

It’s hard to imagine that we could have more misery and bloodshed then what the word currently has today.

It's hard to imagine, but plausible. 206 you often look at conflicts and issues where religion is in the forefront and blame religion itself, when in fact religion is only the cover on the book. In many cases it is far less about religion than you may think. The crusades, for example, while using religion as an excuse, were really about stopping the rapid territorial expansion of Muslims in the Middle East and advancing towards Europe.

Israel and the Israeli state face issues not just because of Islam, but because of 1. Arab regional pride and the haughty, holier-than-thou nature of most Muslims, 2. the Palestinian refugee question and the state of Palestine, 3. the Israeli military tactics used to combat the Intifada.

Yassir Arafat and the PLO started with the goal of "burning the Israeli state to the ground and driving them to the sea" not just because they were Jewish, but primarily because they had occupied what was traditionally seen as Arab land.

1). The author makes no such claim.
2). The author makes no such claim.

"We live in a world full of insane people. Sanity is an island battered in an ocean of frothing delusion. The people who believe in science are the minority. The people who believe in bloody fairytales are the overwhelming majority."

"But I cannot, for the life of me, understand our motivations, thousands of years later, still following the conmen of yesteryear into our gory, bloody, violent end."

"But we have killed far too many people, wasted far too much time on this nonsense for us to keep going in this direction for fear of offense."

This is making the claim, circumlocutorily, - or perhaps not even, perhaps directly - that religion simply has a bad effect on people, and the world. If you don't believe that the author makes this claim, you need to re-read the work. And if you still don't believe it after that, kudos to you.

This article is not about the thin line between believing in Religion and allowing it to fool you into making poor decisions. This article states that religion is nonsensical fairy tales, period.

How you came to the conclusion that the author presupposes these two things is beyond me. No one is saying that religion will magically disappear over night- if it did, then I’m sure you would be right- the idiots of the world would probably commit mass suicide (is that a good or bad thing?). What the author is saying is that religion is a major factor for much of the mayhem and destruction we see in the world today. There is no denying this- the Quran that teaches its followers that women are only worth half a man, the Jews that believe they are gods chosen people, etc. (I can go on and on and you would agree with me). The author is simply saying that it’s the 21st century and that we as a whole need to grow the fuck up. The author never states on how to do this, never makes a claim that the stupids of the world could switch from religious fanatic to atheist overnight. You drew those conclusions.

206 you're looking at this article with rose-tinted glasses, probably a result of the barely contained glee you felt when you read an article on the stupidity of religion.

When he says, "If you don't want to be called ignorant or misinformed, then get informed. Learn the real nature of our universe and put aside old wives tales about resurrected Gods, omniscient prophets and a guy who could split the Red Sea but couldn't find where he's going in the desert for forty years.", he is saying that religion is wrong.

When he says everything I quoted above, he is saying that religion has a bad effect. The title of CB's post, even, hearkens to that.

Pffft. Much like the wholesale slaughter, murder and destruction they are currently involved in? Religion has never prevented murder, war, rape, destruction, etc., in fact it’s the exact opposite. Religion and morals in the same sentence is a freakin joke.

Religion has always been a pretext used - but you would struggle in ever finding a war that was based on religion 100% - this includes the worldwide jihad against the US, the Intifada against Israel, the crusades, etc. Once again, saying religion causes war is like saying the worldwide supply of AK-47s causes terrorism. Political instability and a traditionally repressed class along with a large supply of uneducated, disenchanted males causes terrorism.

Again, no where did the author claim that people could all of a sudden drop religion and become atheists. It’s a learning process and it takes education, as well as social improvements. If you look at the most religious countries of the world they are nearly always the poorest and have the lowest average IQ.

That is the logical conclusion of the author's words. That is the title of this post. If you're trying to tell me that in no way does this article advocate the removal of religion from our lives, then we are just gonna have to disagree on that, and believe the author person sees wrongly.

And religion is the tool that he uses to justify violence, as does Bush, et al.

Bush's religious justification of the Iraq War is behind the scenes - it's not something we see in press conferences or public statements. It's something that the left have found (and the right have celebrated its discovery) by looking under the surface a bit. Bush knows appealing to God won't strengthen his case in the minds of the Coasts and the Urban centers. It's a tactic to appeal to his base. I believe, even if we had an atheist Republican in office, we still would have had a blundering, unsuccessful, failed military response to 9-11 in the Middle East, such as we have now.

 

[HERESY]

I don’t know how anyone could make this claim. Based on his speeches, he is a Christian. Unless you know him personally, you cannot know for certain if he believes in god or not.

Regardless, Bush does use Christianity as a tool to gain support and to justify certain policies/actions. This further justifies the claim that religion is negative on society. If the people of the US were educated and lacked such strong beliefs in Christianity, Bush couldn’t get away with half the shit he’s done.

Bush does not believe in the christian god. Bush is a bonesmen and illuminist.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Israel and the Israeli state face issues not just because of Islam, but because of 1. Arab regional pride and the haughty, holier-than-thou nature of most Muslims, 2. the Palestinian refugee question and the state of Palestine, 3. the Israeli military tactics used to combat the Intifada.

And you left out the most important, undeniable reason why they fight- Their religion! If they were not Jews and Muslims there would have never been a conflict to begin with. Hitler wouldn’t have killed Jews, anti-Semitism would have never existed in Europe, thus the European Jews would have never occupied Arab land, which is a HOLY land based on religious beliefs in the first place!

Also, I could have sworn the Quaran speaks negatively about jews? Isn’t that spreading hatred? Aren’t Jews “descendants of apes and swine?”

"We live in a world full of insane people. Sanity is an island battered in an ocean of frothing delusion. The people who believe in science are the minority. The people who believe in bloody fairytales are the overwhelming majority."

"But I cannot, for the life of me, understand our motivations, thousands of years later, still following the conmen of yesteryear into our gory, bloody, violent end."

"But we have killed far too many people, wasted far too much time on this nonsense for us to keep going in this direction for fear of offense."

This is making the claim, circumlocutorily, - or perhaps not even, perhaps directly - that religion simply has a bad effect on people, and the world. If you don't believe that the author makes this claim, you need to re-read the work. And if you still don't believe it after that, kudos to you.

WD, you stated “1. That religion has an indescribably bad effect 100 percent of the time on all who espouse it.”

I simply said that the author never made this claim, which he didn’t. Yes, the author is saying that religion has a negative effect on the word, which I completely agree with and I amazed that you do not see this as well. But he never said 100% of the time.

WD, religion has stumped our growth. When people stop seeking answers because they believe God is responsible, our growth stops. Think Dark Ages. When religion teaches hate towards non-believers, this is stumping our growth. It promotes negativity towards non-believers, damning them for not following it, it incites the hatred of other religions and atheism (and apostasy is punishable by death, which is of course a direct link between religion and violence).

his article is not about the thin line between believing in Religion and allowing it to fool you into making poor decisions. This article states that religion is nonsensical fairy tales, period.

Which it is and you know it is.

he is saying that religion is wrong.

No shit!

When he says everything I quoted above, he is saying that religion has a bad effect. The title of CB's post, even, hearkens to that.

Which I understand. I simply stated that he never said it is 100% negative and that he never claimed the world was intellectual enough to give up religion overnight.

Religion has always been a pretext used - but you would struggle in ever finding a war that was based on religion 100% - this includes the worldwide jihad against the US, the Intifada against Israel, the crusades, etc. Once again, saying religion causes war is like saying the worldwide supply of AK-47s causes terrorism. Political instability and a traditionally repressed class along with a large supply of uneducated, disenchanted males causes terrorism.

Religion has caused wars WD. Religion is also used as a method to make people strap bombs to their chests and run into crowded areas, detonating themselves. An Ak-47 doesn’t tell people to pull the trigger; passages from the bible/Quran/etc. however are used to persuade people to pull triggers.

You act as if religion has kept people from killing or starting wars. “Religion is their only reason to abstain from wholesale slaughter, murder, and destruction.” Who are these people? Africans involved in ethnic genocide while the Catholic Church is involved? Where are their Christian morals to teach them not to kill? Or is it their religion teaches them to kill?

That is the logical conclusion of the author's words. That is the title of this post.

Again, he never said that religion should and can be dropped overnight, which was my point. As I stated, it’s a learning process, it would take a whole lot for religion to diminish, but when that time comes there will be a whole lot less violence.

If you're trying to tell me that in no way does this article advocate the removal of religion from our lives,

Never did I say that WD. He IS calling for the removal of religion, just as I always have, but through education. His article is really more of a rant than anything. My two issues with your response was 1. He never said religion is negative 100% of the time (which I will agree to drop right now because it’s pointless) and 2). He never said people can drop religion overnight.

“Learn the real nature of our universe and put aside old wives tales about resurrected Gods…”

He’s calling for people to get educated. The more education the more people understand life and our universe which leads to the erosion of religion which then of course leads to less violence and stupidity.


I do agree that there are a number of other factors involved in world violence, but religion does play a major role and often times, is the leading force behind aggression. I agree that religion is rarely the only factor behind war, but there is no denying that religion IS used as an excuse for war and to spread hate (Hitler for example) and violence.

The Crusades
The Balkans conflicts
Palestine/Israel
Northern Ireland
Osama/War on Terror
Sudan
etc.
All these conflicts have a religious element to either start them in the first place or perpetuating or exaggerating existing conflicts. YES other causal factors are in place. But religion is doing its harm.

 

[Hemp]

Do I have to explain A MAJOR religion? I thought you knew it was the correct 1!!!!!!

If You're a Christian, Muslim or Jew - You are Wrong

ONLY GOD CAN CREATE, EVEN SCIENCE CANNOT CREATE, AND THEY WILL NEVER WILL
(BRING SOMETHING FROM NON-EXISTANCE, TO EXISTANCE.) NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!!!!
CHECK YOUR RELIGIOUS SOURCES.
Only God brings things into exsistance, from non-exsitance
DO YOU FOLLOW RELIGIONG BLINDELY AND STUPID, USE UR OWN LOGIC BRAIN, DON'T LET NO-ONE TELL YOU LIES. TURN OFF THE NEWSSSS AND REAAAAAAADDDDDDDD

Do you know how God looks? I do.

God is not like his creations, He has no body, contains no space, no color, and is not big or small.
ANYTHING YOU IMAGINE IN YOUR MIND, GOD IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
I think political leaders hide behind the false image of religion. What makes bush a christian or not? Does he have to believe in a specific thing? Well i know Bin laden is not muslim 100%.

MOST powerfull people these days are more wicked than you think. They might claim a religion, but are they really apart of it?

Islamic Jihad is not what you read. This holy war only implies to the enemies soldiers, if a valid reason. No children, or no wifes. Only soldiers.

First of all let me explain something to all you people.
U never heard the truth about islam? Yea sorry to tell you people. How could any of you not found the correct message of religion? You people think all religions are similar and wrong. I will agree with you to a certain point. But there is one religion that is correct, and supported by logic proof, and different than you think. Let's see....God created the human brain....Why did he create it....answer is simple-----to think logically!!!!

First of all 70% of all muslims are not really muslims. There is 3 ways to get out of islam. Sayings, belief, and actions. Anything that belittles God, his messangers, his prophets, his angles, his religions, his books, and anything similar.

Not all things you hear, are true. Muslim religion existed before the quran. All prophets were muslim. There were 120,000 prophets on earth, only 4 were arabic. But all spread the same message, there is only 1 God.

There is only 1 major religion that is supported by logic proof in the whole universe. And this religion did not .existed after christianity........but much before. The 1st human on earth, spread the same message, his name is Adam. And the last prophet on earth was Mohammed.

Bin laden is not muslim because in the muslim religion there is a very very very distinction between a real muslim and not. He belives God is in the sky, This belief takes you out of islam immediately. God is not in the sky, its impossible, The sky is not eternal, only God is. God doesn't change, So He exists, as he did, Without a place.

Non-Resemblance to the Creation - "The Creator does not resemble His creatures."This means everysingle thing, God doesnt resemble his creations
He is not a body, a spirt, a color, and He does not even contain space. No scientist can create anything.

God is not like anything. God is perfect. He exists without a place. He does not need oxygen or even a place.
Every single thing exists in a place except God. God has power over all creations through angels.
This includes the weather, the clouds, and anything else.
Scientists know how some things work, but only God knows why.

I steal, I take intoxicants and so on. Sorry to tell you but these intoxicants make me think deep.
Sorry to say but Christians don't have knowledge of God. I am a logical thinker. I will never recieve
Knowledge from a source and not analyize it myself, with my intellectual.

And who created that God if something cannot come from nothing?

Again, your logic does not compute.

This is where, I will tell you my points. First of all, I have information about God. I have logic, and
also i proved to myself there is a God. If logic is our prespective, This is how I found God, and the correct
attributes. This is the most important things, is the attributes of God, they must be known. I know 13 attributes
of God, which proves to myself there is a God, I also love scientific matters also. I am not againts that, But
science cannot explain everything or know everything. Science doesn't know exactly how you are feeling inside. Only yourself
know's. You think there is no difference between poor and rich, good and bad? Why do humans have a conscience? conscience conscience conscience. This for myself is not enough proof therefore I will proceed.
Why did God create the human brain? First of all we all know our brains and intellect is different than animals.I will give you the reason why God created our brain. The simple truth is to Think logically.

The intellectual necessity: This refers to what the mind does not conceive its non-existence, i.e., non-existence does not apply to its self. God is the One Whose Existence is necessary, because the mind does not accept His non-existence, i.e., non-existence does not apply to the Self of God.

The intellectual impossibility: This refers to what the mind does not conceive its existence, i.e., that to which existence does not apply. The existence of a partner with God is an intellectual impossibility, because existence does not apply to it, i.e., the mind does not conceive its existence.

The intellectual possibility: This refers to what the mind conceives its existence at one time and its non-existence at another time. This universe and its contents--among what we can see and what we cannot see--is an intellectual possibility. It is so because the mind conceives its existence after a state of non-existence. This is the state of the entire universe. For example, God made the human being exist after having been non-existent, and then this human being shall be annihilated (Annihilation of humans is by complete death, which is defined as the soul completely departing the body. The souls do not annihilate and some bodies do not decay in the soil.) This is why the human being's existence is among the intellectual possibilities.


1- Existence - believe in the Existence of God. It is an eternal and everlasting attribute. God exists without a beginning, without an ending, and without a place.
2- Oneness - God has no equal. So we say, for example: "God is the Creator and no one is a creator except God". God is One but not as in numbers, because numbers are created. Rather, He is One in that there is no partner with Him.
3- Eternity - there is no beginning to His Existence. His attributes are also eternal. Nothing is eternal except God and His attributes.
4- Everlastingness- God has not end, He doesn't need air or breathing, He will never die, Him and his attributes are everlasting
5- Non-neediness of others - He does not need one to give Him existence because He exists without a beginning. Also, He does not need one to specify Him with Knowledge, instead of ignorance, or other than that among His Attributes, because His attributes exist without a beginning.
6- Non-Resemblance to the Creation - The Creator does not resemble His creatures."
7- Power- God has power over any single thing. God has power over all creations.
8- Will - anything that happens in this life, whether its our decision or not, happens according to the will of God.
We have our own will, but sometimes our will doesn't come through. We intend to do something but it doesn't happen
Gods will always comes true. Destiny
9- Knowledge (al-^Ilm): God is attributed with Knowledge. This is an eternal and everlasting attribute of His Self. God knows eternally about His Self, attributes, and what He creates. Nothing is absent from His Knowledge.He knows everything
No human will ever know everything.
10- Life -Life is an eternal and everlasting attribute of God. The Life of God is not like our life, because our life needs a combination of body and soul; however, the Life of God is His attribute.
11- Hearing - This is an eternal and everlasting attribute of God with which God hears all things that are hearable. There is no difference between what is near to us and what is far from us because God is not in a place. He hears without an ear, without means, and without instruments. His hearing is not subject to weakening nor change because weakness and change are non-befitting to God.
12- Sight - This is an eternal and everlasting attribute of God with which He sees all things that are seeable, without an instrument and without means, color, or distance. He sees the things that are far away from us and those that are near to us without any difference because God is not in a place. His attribute of Sight does not change or develop, because the One whose Self is eternal does not develop or change. God's attributes are eternal and do not develop or change.
13- speech - This is an eternal and everlasting attribute with which God orders, forbids, and informs. It is not a letter nor a sound nor a language., has no start or finish. The Qur'an is expressions of the eternal speech of the Self of God. When we write the word "God" it is an expression of the Self of God. Likewise, the words and sentences of the revealed Books are expressions of the speech of God. The Qur'an is called the speech of God because it is not authored by Prophet Muhammad or Angel Jibril. The Qur'an is also used to mean the eternal speech of the Self of God.

God has attributes that do not resemble the attributes of others.
These are Logically Gods attributes, The only true attributes of God, and they are detailed and make perfect logic sense.

This is the belief of the muslims, These 13 attributes of God......NOBODY SHOULD EVER GIVE UP ON RELIGION, THERE IS HOPE TO FIND THE CORRECT ONE, LIKE I DID.

 

[W0RM_Da_C0N]

if islam is the truth then its ok, to degrade women and have everything segregated? to treat them less then an equal, less then a man? ok.... not that im all religious n shit, but just had to point that out....

 

[Hemp]

All human beigns are the same, in this life, But all prophets were Men, Women are equal to men, They must do the same things in this life as the man, No human is less than the other, by sex, No-one will be judged on their sex, only their deeds, but all atheist please tell me whats illogical about my religous beliefs, the 13 attributes of God. And there is something between the root of the religion, and the branches of the trees. U must get the root correct first to move on.

ALL HUMANS ARE EQUAL. POOR OR RICH, Only God can judge if someone is less than another, but not based on race, sex, height, or weight.

But indeed on beliefs and things you did in this life, Na im not even good, im prolly worst than you.

 

[shoowilla]

if islam is the truth then its ok, to degrade women and have everything segregated? to treat them less then an equal, less then a man? ok.... not that im all religious n shit, but just had to point that out....

That is the understanding of MANY people in the US when it comes down to woman and Islam, I can tell you one thing that it is FALSE, and you could do the research on that, because im pretty sure and correct me if im wrong, that most of your information came from TV, or some sort of media or it came from church, God willing I will explain my points about how that is a misunderstanding later on tonight when i get some time but for now i leave you with this. People say Islam opresses women yet facts and statistics show something else, I do not have a link to this source but maybe i can look one up, i dont think i need to for me because i see it within my own eyes that more Women ACCEPT Islam than men, the statistic that im talking about is that for every man that enters Islam, SEVEN women enter. 7 to 1 ratio.

 

[Hemp]

That is the understanding of MANY people in the US when it comes down to woman and Islam, I can tell you one thing that it is FALSE, and you could do the research on that, because im pretty sure and correct me if im wrong, that most of your information came from TV, or some sort of media or it came from church, God willing I will explain my points about how that is a misunderstanding later on tonight when i get some time but for now i leave you with this. People say Islam opresses women yet facts and statistics show something else, I do not have a link to this source but maybe i can look one up, i dont think i need to for me because i see it within my own eyes that more Women ACCEPT Islam than men, the statistic that im talking about is that for every man that enters Islam, SEVEN women enter. 7 to 1 ratio.

Let me add something to this great reply

Ok Lemme think what your thinking about Islam oppresses women. There is only possibly 2 things that I can prolly think, that you dislike.

1. Scarf- The women wearing the scarf over their hair, is 1 of the misunderstood things about women in islam. OHHH islam is making the women do this. First of all, Nothing in religion is forced unless ur a maniac. These women wear the scarf for themselves. So lets see why do women where the scarf? Do you research. #1 reason. Mary the mother of Jesus was the greatest woman in Islam. The Best woman. Virgin Mary used to wear a scarf. Why did she wear a scarf? Because those were the laws of the muslim religion during her time(yes islam did exist way before the quran did).
We try to follow Mary. Try to be like her. Another reason is......Sexual relations. If a man see's a girl without a scarf, and with a scarf, who is the man going to try to have sexual relations, or just simple relationship. U TELL ME. Many different hair styles these days, make women show off and so on, so its better to make all women equal. ALL WOMEN TO COVER THEIR HAIR and have SELF RESPECT.

2. Husband - Everyone thinks Islam encourages husbands to beat there wife. FALSE. STOP READING FALSE RELIGION FACTS. The womens #1 prioriety in life is thier husband(if no kids). This just means that the woman must make her husband happy or obey him, if she is willing, or if the husband says to do something thats a sin(the woman must refuse).

EVERY MUSLIM WOMAN MUST MARRY A MUSLIM MAN, BUT EVERY MUSLIM MAN CAN MARRY EITHER JEWISH, CHRISTIAN, OR MUSLIM WOMAN.

This just to show you what religion is about. If u are the correct religion(islam) Then u must carry it on, and not let it die out, So thier is a rule on marriage. Woman and Men are the same, but Woman have a more sexually attractive body to the Man. The man get's attracted much more than the women do. Mostly any man would have sexual relations with an attractive woman.
That's why it is prohibited for any human to have sex before they are married. They might get addicted to sex. Anywayz Got set rules out.....to help woman....God is just in every decision He makes. And this decision about women to cover up, is to benefit all women.

Women are not going to achieve equality with the right to bear their breasts in public, as some people would like to have you believe. That would only make us party to our own objectification. True equality will be had only when women don't need to display themselves to get attention and won't need to defend their decision to keep their bodies to themselves.

Islam should be viewed as a religion that had immensely improved the status of women and had granted them many rights that the modern world has recognized only this century. Islam still has so much to offer today's woman: dignity, respect, and protection in all aspects and all stages of her life from birth until death in addition to the recognition, the balance, and means for the fulfilment of all her spiritual, intellectual, physical, and emotional needs. No wonder most of those who choose to become Muslims in a country like Britain are women. In the U.S. women converts to Islam outnumber male converts 4 to 1. 85 Islam has so much to offer our world which is in great need of moral guidance and leadership

GOD EXISTS, AND THERE IS ONLY 1 CORRECT RELIGION, THIS RELIGION STARTED WITH THE FIRST HUMAN, AND STILL EXISTS.
THE CORRECT RELIGION MUST BE SUPPORTED BY LOGIC? AND IT IS.

 

[Malkorasoul]

had immensely improved the status of women and had granted them many rights that the modern world has recognized only this century. Islam still has so much to offer today's woman: dignity, respect, and protection in all aspects and all stages of her life from birth until death in addition to the recognition, the balance, and means for the fulfilment of all her spiritual, intellectual, physical, and emotional needs.

Oh lord i hope you are joking.....I'll just say that you are stretching quite a bit

 

[Hemp]

Nothing really matters what we talk about, if u do not understand the basics of islam. Please read and understand my previous replies, read the LOGIC 13 attributes of God, and tell me any flaws please.

THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR THIS PLANET TO BE IN THE CORRECT RELIGION.

 

[BaSICCally]

I hope nobody is holding on to the idea that if religion is removed from the face of earth, that all our answers will be solved and we will all hold hands and sing songs together in peace.

 

[Hemp]

I hope nobody is holding on to the idea that if religion is removed from the face of earth, that all our answers will be solved and we will all hold hands and sing songs together in peace.

^^^agrees, and peace wouldn't be a word, if there was no religion on earth, lmao.

 

[L Mac-a-docious]

THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR THIS PLANET TO BE IN THE CORRECT RELIGION.

LOL @ "correct religion." But is there still hope for all the other planets? I heard Uranus be fornicating, committing all types of sodamy and shit...I think that M-Fer is going to be tasting some hellfire when the lights go out on this little galaxy.

 

[Hemp]

LOL @ "correct religion." But is there still hope for all the other planets? I heard Uranus be fornicating, committing all types of sodamy and shit...I think that M-Fer is going to be tasting some hellfire when the lights go out on this little galaxy.

Only earth has accountable things. Humans and Jinn.
WATER = LIFE. EARTH = WATER. "other planets don't need religion" They don't have humans, or crackheads :-D

 

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Only earth has accountable things. Humans and Jinn.
WATER = LIFE. EARTH = WATER. "other planets don't need religion" They don't have humans, or crackheads :-D

Crackheads in glass houses shouldn't throw crackrocks...they should continue to smoke them, as they are a gift from science, which was a gift from god...so by transitive properties (also a gift from god), crackrocks are gifts from god, and should be treated accordingly...smoke em' if you got em'...it is gods will.