Is Colin Powell a House Nigger?
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EDJ, you are startin to get convoluted here. First you call MC a sellout and not raza because of his poor spanish or his political views. Then he tries to get off that tip and be like 'Ok I got no ties to Mexico.', so you go after him like 'Well since you have friends in Mexico you have ties to Mexico'. What's your point? Since he has friends in Mexico, he is no longer American?
Keep in mind if you are discussing a war, and assuming MC does not disgaree with the war, it is a situation of 'us against them', and I'm sure MC has more friends in America than Mexico. One common vein in your threads is that you don't seem to be seeking the truth, you are more into talking people into corners and turning the argument around so they'll admit you're right.
Keep in mind if you are discussing a war, and assuming MC does not disgaree with the war, it is a situation of 'us against them', and I'm sure MC has more friends in America than Mexico. One common vein in your threads is that you don't seem to be seeking the truth, you are more into talking people into corners and turning the argument around so they'll admit you're right.
^DAMN THAT'S COLD MCLEANHATCH. I HOPE YOUR FRIENDS KNOW YOU FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT THEM. YOU DIDN'T EVEN SAY YOU WOULD TRY TO CONVINCE YOUR FRIENDS TO COME TO AMERIKKKA OR SIDE WITH THE U.S OR NATHAN LIKE THAT.
ALREADY DEAD,
CHEK THIS OUT PLAYA:
YOU STRESSED, "EDJ, you are startin to get convoluted here. "
PLEASE, EXPLAIN YOURSELF? HOW IS THIS SO INTRICATE?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "First you call MC a sellout and not raza because of his poor spanish or his political views."
51ST OF ALL CUZZ,
WHAT IS RAZA? RAZA TO ME IS A SPANISH WORD THAT MEANS "RACE" AND HOW MEXICANS SAY IT, TO SIgNIFY SOMEBODY FROM THE SAME RACE, WITH A COMMON BOND. CHICANOS COPY THE SAME CONCEPT BUT SOME DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
XCONDLY,
CUZZ'S POLITICAL VIEWS CONSIST OF SWINgIN' OFF THE WHITE MANS NUTS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WAS DISCUSSIN'.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Then he tries to get off that tip and be like 'Ok I got no ties to Mexico.', so you go after him like 'Well since you have friends in Mexico you have ties to Mexico'. What's your point?"
MAN, MCLEANHATCH IS THE ONE THAT FIRST MENTIONED HE HAD FRIENDS IN MEXICO TO FRONT LIKE HE ALL UP ON MEXICO AND MEXICAN CULTURE TO PROVE A POINT TO ME THAT HE'S ALL MEXICAN-ED ALL UP(I:E NO SELLOUT), BUT YOU JUST SEEN HIM TYPE THAT HE WOULD KILL HIS OWN FRIENDS JUST CAUSE HE'S AMERIKKKAN AND THEY MEXICAN. AND MY POINT IS THAT HE AIN'T MEXICAN BUT A DESCENDANT WITH WATERED DOWN BLOOD AND WAYS(I:E WHITEBOY WITH A SPANISH LAST NAME)
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Since he has friends in Mexico, he is no longer American?
HE SAID HE WAS MEXICAN BUT AMERIKKKAN AND WOULD KILL REAL MEXICANS FROM MEXICO INCLUDIN' HIS FRIENDS IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Keep in mind if you are discussing a war, and assuming MC does not disgaree with the war, it is a situation of 'us against them', and I'm sure MC has more friends in America than Mexico.
WHO IS US AND WHO IS THEM? AND HOW DO YOU KNOW MCLEANHATCH HAS N-E FRIENDS? DO YOU KNOW THIS MAN?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "One common vein in your threads is that you don't seem to be seeking the truth, you are more into talking people into corners and turning the argument around so they'll admit you're right.
WHAT IS SEEKIN' TRUTH? WHAT IS TRUTH? gIVE ME YOUR PERCEPTION. IN MY PERCEPTION I ALWAYS SEEM TO SEEK TRUTH. gIVE ME AN INSTANCE AND SITUATION WHERE YOU PERCEIVED SOMETHIN' I STRESSED TO NOT SEEK TRUTH? AND HOW DO I TALK SOMEBODY INTO A CORNER? gIVE AN EXAMPLE.
AND HOW DO YOU TURN AN ARgUMENT? TRUTH IS RIgHTEOUS, RIgHT? SO IF YOU SEEK TRUTH YOU'RE RIgHT, RIgHT? SO REgARDLESS OF HOW A CONVERSATION, DEBATE, ARgUMENT, OR WHATEVA TYPE OF COMMUNICATION gOES ON, IF THERE'S ONLY ONE TRUTH, THEN HOW CAN YOU TURN IT AROUND?
AND BTW, DO YOU LIKE FOLLOWIN' MY THREADS OR SAMETHIN?
ALREADY DEAD,
CHEK THIS OUT PLAYA:
YOU STRESSED, "EDJ, you are startin to get convoluted here. "
PLEASE, EXPLAIN YOURSELF? HOW IS THIS SO INTRICATE?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "First you call MC a sellout and not raza because of his poor spanish or his political views."
51ST OF ALL CUZZ,
WHAT IS RAZA? RAZA TO ME IS A SPANISH WORD THAT MEANS "RACE" AND HOW MEXICANS SAY IT, TO SIgNIFY SOMEBODY FROM THE SAME RACE, WITH A COMMON BOND. CHICANOS COPY THE SAME CONCEPT BUT SOME DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
XCONDLY,
CUZZ'S POLITICAL VIEWS CONSIST OF SWINgIN' OFF THE WHITE MANS NUTS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WAS DISCUSSIN'.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Then he tries to get off that tip and be like 'Ok I got no ties to Mexico.', so you go after him like 'Well since you have friends in Mexico you have ties to Mexico'. What's your point?"
MAN, MCLEANHATCH IS THE ONE THAT FIRST MENTIONED HE HAD FRIENDS IN MEXICO TO FRONT LIKE HE ALL UP ON MEXICO AND MEXICAN CULTURE TO PROVE A POINT TO ME THAT HE'S ALL MEXICAN-ED ALL UP(I:E NO SELLOUT), BUT YOU JUST SEEN HIM TYPE THAT HE WOULD KILL HIS OWN FRIENDS JUST CAUSE HE'S AMERIKKKAN AND THEY MEXICAN. AND MY POINT IS THAT HE AIN'T MEXICAN BUT A DESCENDANT WITH WATERED DOWN BLOOD AND WAYS(I:E WHITEBOY WITH A SPANISH LAST NAME)
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Since he has friends in Mexico, he is no longer American?
HE SAID HE WAS MEXICAN BUT AMERIKKKAN AND WOULD KILL REAL MEXICANS FROM MEXICO INCLUDIN' HIS FRIENDS IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Keep in mind if you are discussing a war, and assuming MC does not disgaree with the war, it is a situation of 'us against them', and I'm sure MC has more friends in America than Mexico.
WHO IS US AND WHO IS THEM? AND HOW DO YOU KNOW MCLEANHATCH HAS N-E FRIENDS? DO YOU KNOW THIS MAN?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "One common vein in your threads is that you don't seem to be seeking the truth, you are more into talking people into corners and turning the argument around so they'll admit you're right.
WHAT IS SEEKIN' TRUTH? WHAT IS TRUTH? gIVE ME YOUR PERCEPTION. IN MY PERCEPTION I ALWAYS SEEM TO SEEK TRUTH. gIVE ME AN INSTANCE AND SITUATION WHERE YOU PERCEIVED SOMETHIN' I STRESSED TO NOT SEEK TRUTH? AND HOW DO I TALK SOMEBODY INTO A CORNER? gIVE AN EXAMPLE.
AND HOW DO YOU TURN AN ARgUMENT? TRUTH IS RIgHTEOUS, RIgHT? SO IF YOU SEEK TRUTH YOU'RE RIgHT, RIgHT? SO REgARDLESS OF HOW A CONVERSATION, DEBATE, ARgUMENT, OR WHATEVA TYPE OF COMMUNICATION gOES ON, IF THERE'S ONLY ONE TRUTH, THEN HOW CAN YOU TURN IT AROUND?
AND BTW, DO YOU LIKE FOLLOWIN' MY THREADS OR SAMETHIN?
I post when my view on the current topic is relevant or pertinent, or it's a matter of interest. Your posts tend to be on decent debateable topics, instead of some bull ass unconfirmable Geroge W cow abudction govt theory from some site nobody knows about, or the latest bullshit about dreams, is reality reality, or some such.
This latest post just seemed like you was tryin to hit Mc at a personal level, without really tryin to get somewhere in a discussion. He's a watered-down mexican who speaks shitty spanish. He said his grandpa was from mexico, which makes him 1/4 mexican. Me personally If I was 1/4 mexican I wouldn't call myself one.
Then again calling urself white don't exactly get people points on this board, so I see where a weak white person would try and latch onto any distinguishable minority ethnic roots to gain relevance. I'm a watered down half mexican who speaks basically no spanish, my moms came from a Leave it to Beaver upper class mexican family that didn't speak spanish to their children so they wouldn't feel different in a white ass neighborhood.
Myself, though, since I don't speak spanish, and I don't keep company with many Latinos, I call myself White. While that invites a personal attack on a different basis, I suppose it's more true than Mc's self-description. In any case, it just seemed like you was tryin to make folks look stupid.
This latest post just seemed like you was tryin to hit Mc at a personal level, without really tryin to get somewhere in a discussion. He's a watered-down mexican who speaks shitty spanish. He said his grandpa was from mexico, which makes him 1/4 mexican. Me personally If I was 1/4 mexican I wouldn't call myself one.
Then again calling urself white don't exactly get people points on this board, so I see where a weak white person would try and latch onto any distinguishable minority ethnic roots to gain relevance. I'm a watered down half mexican who speaks basically no spanish, my moms came from a Leave it to Beaver upper class mexican family that didn't speak spanish to their children so they wouldn't feel different in a white ass neighborhood.
Myself, though, since I don't speak spanish, and I don't keep company with many Latinos, I call myself White. While that invites a personal attack on a different basis, I suppose it's more true than Mc's self-description. In any case, it just seemed like you was tryin to make folks look stupid.
MCLEANHATCH,
YOU STRESSED, "whatever happened to this statement
Quote:
Originally posted by EDJ
^NOT gOOD TO gENERALIZE CAUSE EACH SITUATION IS DIFFERENT."
THAT STATEMENT WAS MADE ON A DIFFERENT THREAD AND IT STILLS HOLD TRUE. IT AIN'T gOOD TO gENERALIZE CAUSE EACH SITUATION "IS" DIFFERENT. AND WHAT I SAID TO ALREADY DEAD, WAS NOT A gENERALIZATION BUT A COMMON OCCURENCE. I AIN'T SAYIN' EVERY MEXICAN OR CHICANO IS THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S HOW THE gAME IS. IF YOU FEEL IT'S A gENERALIZATION THEN THAT'S YOUR PERCEPTION.
ALREADY DEAD,
YOU STRESSED, "I post when my view on the current topic is relevant or pertinent, or it's a matter of interest. Your posts tend to be on decent debateable topics, instead of some bull ass unconfirmable Geroge W cow abudction govt theory from some site nobody knows about, or the latest bullshit about dreams, is reality reality, or some such."
I'LL TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT. THANKS CUZZ.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "This latest post just seemed like you was tryin to hit Mc at a personal level, without really tryin to get somewhere in a discussion."
PERCEPTIONS ARE A MUTHA-FUKA. HOWEVA, I DIDN'T START COMMENTIN' ON MCLEANHATCH UNTIL SOMEBODY MADE A COMMENT. I THEN ASKED MCLEANHATCH QUESTIONS SO HIS ANSWERS COULD PROVE MY POINT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "He's a watered-down mexican who speaks shitty spanish."
DON'T SAY THAT TO HIM, HE MIgHT BEAT YOU UP. LOL. BUT REALISTICALLY, HE'S A WATERED-DOWN CHICANO.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "He said his grandpa was from mexico, which makes him 1/4 mexican."
AND WITH HIS LOgIC HE WOULD OF KILLED HIS gRANDPA IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Me personally If I was 1/4 mexican I wouldn't call myself one."
I WOULD ATLEAST TRY TO LEARN SOME SPANISH.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Then again calling urself white don't exactly get people points on this board, so I see where a weak white person would try and latch onto any distinguishable minority ethnic roots to gain relevance."
SPEAK THE TRUTH THEN BROTHA. LOL BUT IF YOU CHOPPIN' gAME AND YO HEAD RIgHT, IT DON'T MATTER WHAT YOU ARE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I'm a watered down half mexican who speaks basically no spanish, my moms came from a Leave it to Beaver upper class mexican family that didn't speak spanish to their children so they wouldn't feel different in a white ass neighborhood."
YOU NEED TO CHEK YOUR gRANDPARENTS AND CLAIM THAT LOST KNOWLEDgE. CHEK YOUR MAMA TOO.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Myself, though, since I don't speak spanish, and I don't keep company with many Latinos, I call myself White."
ATLEAST YOU KEEPIN' IT REAL. YOU EVA TRIED TO LEARN SPANISH? OR BE ENLIgHTENED WITH YOUR MEXICAN ROOTS AND CULTURE?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "While that invites a personal attack on a different basis, I suppose it's more true than Mc's self-description."
I SAY IT'S ABOUT THE SAME EXCEPT YOU AIN'T CLAIMIN' NONE OF YOUR MEXICAN BLOOD.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "In any case, it just seemed like you was tryin to make folks look stupid."
LIKE I STRESSED, "PERCEPTIONS ARE A MUTHA-FUKA".
YOU STRESSED, "whatever happened to this statement
Quote:
Originally posted by EDJ
^NOT gOOD TO gENERALIZE CAUSE EACH SITUATION IS DIFFERENT."
THAT STATEMENT WAS MADE ON A DIFFERENT THREAD AND IT STILLS HOLD TRUE. IT AIN'T gOOD TO gENERALIZE CAUSE EACH SITUATION "IS" DIFFERENT. AND WHAT I SAID TO ALREADY DEAD, WAS NOT A gENERALIZATION BUT A COMMON OCCURENCE. I AIN'T SAYIN' EVERY MEXICAN OR CHICANO IS THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S HOW THE gAME IS. IF YOU FEEL IT'S A gENERALIZATION THEN THAT'S YOUR PERCEPTION.
ALREADY DEAD,
YOU STRESSED, "I post when my view on the current topic is relevant or pertinent, or it's a matter of interest. Your posts tend to be on decent debateable topics, instead of some bull ass unconfirmable Geroge W cow abudction govt theory from some site nobody knows about, or the latest bullshit about dreams, is reality reality, or some such."
I'LL TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT. THANKS CUZZ.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "This latest post just seemed like you was tryin to hit Mc at a personal level, without really tryin to get somewhere in a discussion."
PERCEPTIONS ARE A MUTHA-FUKA. HOWEVA, I DIDN'T START COMMENTIN' ON MCLEANHATCH UNTIL SOMEBODY MADE A COMMENT. I THEN ASKED MCLEANHATCH QUESTIONS SO HIS ANSWERS COULD PROVE MY POINT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "He's a watered-down mexican who speaks shitty spanish."
DON'T SAY THAT TO HIM, HE MIgHT BEAT YOU UP. LOL. BUT REALISTICALLY, HE'S A WATERED-DOWN CHICANO.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "He said his grandpa was from mexico, which makes him 1/4 mexican."
AND WITH HIS LOgIC HE WOULD OF KILLED HIS gRANDPA IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Me personally If I was 1/4 mexican I wouldn't call myself one."
I WOULD ATLEAST TRY TO LEARN SOME SPANISH.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Then again calling urself white don't exactly get people points on this board, so I see where a weak white person would try and latch onto any distinguishable minority ethnic roots to gain relevance."
SPEAK THE TRUTH THEN BROTHA. LOL BUT IF YOU CHOPPIN' gAME AND YO HEAD RIgHT, IT DON'T MATTER WHAT YOU ARE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I'm a watered down half mexican who speaks basically no spanish, my moms came from a Leave it to Beaver upper class mexican family that didn't speak spanish to their children so they wouldn't feel different in a white ass neighborhood."
YOU NEED TO CHEK YOUR gRANDPARENTS AND CLAIM THAT LOST KNOWLEDgE. CHEK YOUR MAMA TOO.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Myself, though, since I don't speak spanish, and I don't keep company with many Latinos, I call myself White."
ATLEAST YOU KEEPIN' IT REAL. YOU EVA TRIED TO LEARN SPANISH? OR BE ENLIgHTENED WITH YOUR MEXICAN ROOTS AND CULTURE?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "While that invites a personal attack on a different basis, I suppose it's more true than Mc's self-description."
I SAY IT'S ABOUT THE SAME EXCEPT YOU AIN'T CLAIMIN' NONE OF YOUR MEXICAN BLOOD.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "In any case, it just seemed like you was tryin to make folks look stupid."
LIKE I STRESSED, "PERCEPTIONS ARE A MUTHA-FUKA".
My moms was basically brought up in an environment where they were white. They kept a few traditions and customs mostly in the food and the way the family interacted but by not teaching their kids spanish they felt they would allow them to assimilate easier. Today this would be called misguided and a move that robs you of culture, but my grandfolks thought it was the best thing for the kids.
I did learn some Spanish and my knowledge is increasing every day. If I get in good company with someone who speaks fluent Spanish, I take the opportunity to learn what I can without being like "How you say this?" every other sentence. Many Latinos don't believe I'm half Mexican, they think I'm Italian or one of those Antonio Banderas ass Spanish people. My grandparents is passed, but I feel the small time I spent with them, although not culturally rich, at the same time was important to me.
One thing about the Bay Area is that folks out here have a less distinguished concept of race. Black folks is still Black, Mexicans is still Mexican, but the environment is more along the lines of "if you a homeboy" or if you not. Whereas other places like LA is like "Blacks act distinctly Black, Mexicans act distinctly Mexican" Bay Area and Frisco culture is something we all relate on. I speak in definite Frisco slang "blood, folks, errie" and all that, im less likely to be like "pues vato", also partly because the Mexicans out here are the same way. Almost all Latino gangs and non-bangin Latin homeboys out here use definite frisco slang as well as "blood, nigga", often. That's just an example how the bay and Frisco is.
I make a distinction. I was raised a white kid. My folks told me exactly what I was, and what I could choose to be, but a racial identity is different for mixed people in this society. My girl is mixed white/black, and she feels the same way, that people won't accept "mixed" or "biracial" as a valid race, you have to be one or the other. I feel that to call myself a Mexican with my no spanish speakin ass and non-cultured self would be wrong, although I don't deny my ancestry. It wasn't really important to me growin up to try and learn about where I came from, more just to fit in. In the Frisco street atmosphere it seems like unless you were Black, that identifying with your race if you were White, Asian, Latino would be more of a limit on who would wanna kick it wit you. If you ever come to the Sco, talk to a Asian, Mex, or White homeboy that looks down. Folks just talk in Frisco slang and sound less distinctly racial. It's some shit I never seen anywhere else.
Anyways im gettin off subject. Because of the way I chose not to culture myself, I feel that identifying as white is most appropriate.
I did learn some Spanish and my knowledge is increasing every day. If I get in good company with someone who speaks fluent Spanish, I take the opportunity to learn what I can without being like "How you say this?" every other sentence. Many Latinos don't believe I'm half Mexican, they think I'm Italian or one of those Antonio Banderas ass Spanish people. My grandparents is passed, but I feel the small time I spent with them, although not culturally rich, at the same time was important to me.
One thing about the Bay Area is that folks out here have a less distinguished concept of race. Black folks is still Black, Mexicans is still Mexican, but the environment is more along the lines of "if you a homeboy" or if you not. Whereas other places like LA is like "Blacks act distinctly Black, Mexicans act distinctly Mexican" Bay Area and Frisco culture is something we all relate on. I speak in definite Frisco slang "blood, folks, errie" and all that, im less likely to be like "pues vato", also partly because the Mexicans out here are the same way. Almost all Latino gangs and non-bangin Latin homeboys out here use definite frisco slang as well as "blood, nigga", often. That's just an example how the bay and Frisco is.
I make a distinction. I was raised a white kid. My folks told me exactly what I was, and what I could choose to be, but a racial identity is different for mixed people in this society. My girl is mixed white/black, and she feels the same way, that people won't accept "mixed" or "biracial" as a valid race, you have to be one or the other. I feel that to call myself a Mexican with my no spanish speakin ass and non-cultured self would be wrong, although I don't deny my ancestry. It wasn't really important to me growin up to try and learn about where I came from, more just to fit in. In the Frisco street atmosphere it seems like unless you were Black, that identifying with your race if you were White, Asian, Latino would be more of a limit on who would wanna kick it wit you. If you ever come to the Sco, talk to a Asian, Mex, or White homeboy that looks down. Folks just talk in Frisco slang and sound less distinctly racial. It's some shit I never seen anywhere else.
Anyways im gettin off subject. Because of the way I chose not to culture myself, I feel that identifying as white is most appropriate.
HALF DEAD,
YOU STRESSED, "My moms was basically brought up in an environment where they were white. They kept a few traditions and customs mostly in the food and the way the family interacted but by not teaching their kids spanish they felt they would allow them to assimilate easier. Today this would be called misguided and a move that robs you of culture, but my grandfolks thought it was the best thing for the kids."
LIKE I SAID, YOUR gRANPARENTS MADE A BAD CHOICE. YOU WERE gONNA BE AMERICANIZED N-E-WAY CAUSE OF YOUR ENVIRONMENT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I did learn some Spanish and my knowledge is increasing every day. If I get in good company with someone who speaks fluent Spanish, I take the opportunity to learn what I can without being like "How you say this?" every other sentence. Many Latinos don't believe I'm half Mexican, they think I'm Italian or one of those Antonio Banderas ass Spanish people. My grandparents is passed, but I feel the small time I spent with them, although not culturally rich, at the same time was important to me."
I RECOMEND WATCHIN' T.V IN SPANISH ALSO. AND IT SHOULD BE ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL INSIDE NOT WHAT OTHAS PERCEIVE YOU AS.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "One thing about the Bay Area is that folks out here have a less distinguished concept of race. Black folks is still Black, Mexicans is still Mexican, but the environment is more along the lines of "if you a homeboy" or if you not. Whereas other places like LA is like "Blacks act distinctly Black, Mexicans act distinctly Mexican" Bay Area and Frisco culture is something we all relate on. I speak in definite Frisco slang "blood, folks, errie" and all that, im less likely to be like "pues vato", also partly because the Mexicans out here are the same way. Almost all Latino gangs and non-bangin Latin homeboys out here use definite frisco slang as well as "blood, nigga", often. That's just an example how the bay and Frisco is."
AS FAR USIN' THE WORD "BLOOD" AND "NIggA" THAT'S A BIg NO-NO, BUT YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE SHIT YOU UTTER. BUT WHAT IS FRISCO/BAY SUBCULTURE AND SLANg BASED ON? AND IN YOUR PERCEPTION, WHAT IS A HOMEBOY? WHAT IS NOT A HOMEBOY?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I make a distinction. I was raised a white kid. My folks told me exactly what I was, and what I could choose to be, but a racial identity is different for mixed people in this society. My girl is mixed white/black, and she feels the same way, that people won't accept "mixed" or "biracial" as a valid race, you have to be one or the other. I feel that to call myself a Mexican with my no spanish speakin ass and non-cultured self would be wrong, although I don't deny my ancestry. It wasn't really important to me growin up to try and learn about where I came from, more just to fit in. In the Frisco street atmosphere it seems like unless you were Black, that identifying with your race if you were White, Asian, Latino would be more of a limit on who would wanna kick it wit you. If you ever come to the Sco, talk to a Asian, Mex, or White homeboy that looks down. Folks just talk in Frisco slang and sound less distinctly racial. It's some shit I never seen anywhere else."
THAT'S COOL AND THE gANg BUT AgAIN I ASK WHAT IS THIS BAY AREA SUBCULTURE AND SLANg BASED ON? AND WHY IS IT BASED ON THAT?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Anyways im gettin off subject. Because of the way I chose not to culture myself, I feel that identifying as white is most appropriate."
YOU THINK? IF I WAS IN YOUR SHOES I WOULD DENUONCE MY WHITE BLOOD, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
MCLEANHATCH,
YOU STRESSED, "why is every1 getting off calling my 1/4 Mexican blood????
i never said that. you see that is how posts get "watered down""
I THINK PEOPLE PERCEIVE YOUR WATERED DOWN WAYS AS THEY ARE AND CALL IT HOW THEY SEE IT. FROM YOUR VIEWS TO YOUR LOgIC, YOU PORTRAY YOURSELF AS THAT, SO DON'T gET HEATED OR FEEL PERPLEXED WHEN PEOPLE ASSIMILATE YOU AS CAUCCASIAN OR MORE THAN WHAT YOU ARE.
YOU STRESSED, "My moms was basically brought up in an environment where they were white. They kept a few traditions and customs mostly in the food and the way the family interacted but by not teaching their kids spanish they felt they would allow them to assimilate easier. Today this would be called misguided and a move that robs you of culture, but my grandfolks thought it was the best thing for the kids."
LIKE I SAID, YOUR gRANPARENTS MADE A BAD CHOICE. YOU WERE gONNA BE AMERICANIZED N-E-WAY CAUSE OF YOUR ENVIRONMENT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I did learn some Spanish and my knowledge is increasing every day. If I get in good company with someone who speaks fluent Spanish, I take the opportunity to learn what I can without being like "How you say this?" every other sentence. Many Latinos don't believe I'm half Mexican, they think I'm Italian or one of those Antonio Banderas ass Spanish people. My grandparents is passed, but I feel the small time I spent with them, although not culturally rich, at the same time was important to me."
I RECOMEND WATCHIN' T.V IN SPANISH ALSO. AND IT SHOULD BE ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL INSIDE NOT WHAT OTHAS PERCEIVE YOU AS.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "One thing about the Bay Area is that folks out here have a less distinguished concept of race. Black folks is still Black, Mexicans is still Mexican, but the environment is more along the lines of "if you a homeboy" or if you not. Whereas other places like LA is like "Blacks act distinctly Black, Mexicans act distinctly Mexican" Bay Area and Frisco culture is something we all relate on. I speak in definite Frisco slang "blood, folks, errie" and all that, im less likely to be like "pues vato", also partly because the Mexicans out here are the same way. Almost all Latino gangs and non-bangin Latin homeboys out here use definite frisco slang as well as "blood, nigga", often. That's just an example how the bay and Frisco is."
AS FAR USIN' THE WORD "BLOOD" AND "NIggA" THAT'S A BIg NO-NO, BUT YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE SHIT YOU UTTER. BUT WHAT IS FRISCO/BAY SUBCULTURE AND SLANg BASED ON? AND IN YOUR PERCEPTION, WHAT IS A HOMEBOY? WHAT IS NOT A HOMEBOY?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I make a distinction. I was raised a white kid. My folks told me exactly what I was, and what I could choose to be, but a racial identity is different for mixed people in this society. My girl is mixed white/black, and she feels the same way, that people won't accept "mixed" or "biracial" as a valid race, you have to be one or the other. I feel that to call myself a Mexican with my no spanish speakin ass and non-cultured self would be wrong, although I don't deny my ancestry. It wasn't really important to me growin up to try and learn about where I came from, more just to fit in. In the Frisco street atmosphere it seems like unless you were Black, that identifying with your race if you were White, Asian, Latino would be more of a limit on who would wanna kick it wit you. If you ever come to the Sco, talk to a Asian, Mex, or White homeboy that looks down. Folks just talk in Frisco slang and sound less distinctly racial. It's some shit I never seen anywhere else."
THAT'S COOL AND THE gANg BUT AgAIN I ASK WHAT IS THIS BAY AREA SUBCULTURE AND SLANg BASED ON? AND WHY IS IT BASED ON THAT?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Anyways im gettin off subject. Because of the way I chose not to culture myself, I feel that identifying as white is most appropriate."
YOU THINK? IF I WAS IN YOUR SHOES I WOULD DENUONCE MY WHITE BLOOD, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
MCLEANHATCH,
YOU STRESSED, "why is every1 getting off calling my 1/4 Mexican blood????
i never said that. you see that is how posts get "watered down""
I THINK PEOPLE PERCEIVE YOUR WATERED DOWN WAYS AS THEY ARE AND CALL IT HOW THEY SEE IT. FROM YOUR VIEWS TO YOUR LOgIC, YOU PORTRAY YOURSELF AS THAT, SO DON'T gET HEATED OR FEEL PERPLEXED WHEN PEOPLE ASSIMILATE YOU AS CAUCCASIAN OR MORE THAN WHAT YOU ARE.
***WARNING***
long post
Thanx for the TV tip ima try that, I do watch mostly like Sabados Gigante for the ass 'n' titties, so I guess I'll stick around for the news and stuff.
I basically don't denounce my whiteness because my pops always taught me about where he came from, my relatives and ancestors since we got a family history that was recorded. Family on my pops side Came here from Norway in the early 1800s, and I was always fascinated in Viking and Nordic history since the beginning. Contrary to the atmosphere going around, I don't believe that being white is having no culture and history whatsoever, that a black person is "ethnic", a middle eastern person is "ethnic", but white is nothing.
One reason I identify white is that what I see that will happen soon and is already happening is a sort of 'ashamed to be white' atmosphere springing up and around schools, colleges, etc. It's like I said where white people look for any trace of ethnicity and try to latch on to it, like it's their salvation, and if you are full white, you basically feel in order to not be counted off you have to come off like "I'm a bitch, I'm a mark, please Sir can I have another" etc etc to be heard.
You have to make 'white jokes' about yourself and basically if you have an opinion come into a discussion like 'Excuse me, but can I say something here?' I was very into my mex side when I was younger, but I was usually not believed since I looked white and didn't speak spanish etc. But the fucked up shit that made me change my mind a bit was, when this one teacher who didn't like me found out I was Mexican, she all of a sudden started listening to what I had to say, valuing my opinions, etc.
Well, I was never considered Mexican by Latinos, but what I saw was that myself, a very intelligent person, was shunned previously because as a whiteboy I had nothing to contribute. So I could claim Mex, and still not be accepted by Mexicans, but have a voice in the mind of my teachers as a 'bright minority student', or I could claim white and stick by all the full whites or half-breeds like me who for some reason identify white, and deal with being seen as 'just another white boy'.
This experience led me to identify white, since the culture in America right now is very in tune with the art, viewpoint, and contributions of minorities. I felt this was right, also if my views could be seen significant coming from a white person, that would mean that I really had something to say.
The supreme irony of this is that the same situation exists for minorities in less progressive areas. Instead of being dismissed as a white boy, there is dismissal for being black or mexican. I encountered 'white racism' in San Fran, which is a very liberal community. Other places already are or will follow this example.
I'm not sayin 'reverse racism' or whatever is a big problem in our society. Far from it. The pendulum needs to swing back the other way. In order to effectively change the attitudes of people. If the most radical in our society are saying 'Fuck white people', then that will lead to the moderate saying 'Fuck racism'. I am of the opinion that the racism of today will and is giving way to this reverse racism, after which the pendulum will rest and swing neither way, and America will catch up with European attitudes.
I dispute people that tell me white people aren't a race, or that white people have no culture or history. Yes, as a whole white people have wreaked the most havoc on the world compared to every other race pero I don't live in the past. I can find ways to be proud and respectful at the same time, and in my opinion if I did not live in a very liberal environment like SF I would not feel the way I do.
As for as Frisco Code and Bay Slang:
Well for one thing there are no Blood/Crip sets in SF. Niggas out here won't tolerate it. Basically they say they opposed to gang-bangin. That is hypocritical since there is funkin between neighborhood sets and they do sometimes sport their own colors but they still would shut down any C or B sets that would try and come up.
There is XIV and X3 out here but they are in more 'mexican' areas and I think folks out here aren't educated on their war, and they aren't claiming Blood or Crip, so they leave it alone.
People here say blood, nigga like its nathen. That's all around the Bay whether you bang or not. I bet it started in Frisco, though, since traditional gangs/colors dont have implications. What you see more of in SF is some more specific color connotations, for example Lakeview homies wear UNLV gear and red, but UNLV isn't blood or crip.
With 'nigga', it's like this: folks can tell whether you down or not by the way you is, talk, walk, etc. SF, bein very opposed to racism, has a good deal of white/azn/mex homeboys. If niggas see that you ain't comin off disrespectful, that you honestly street folks, a black dude will just be like 'Yea nigga what's hapnin' you know? Homeboys to me is just street folks. I'm not sayin homeless and I'm not sayin them dirty wack ass rockers that put rocks through their nose and shit, I'm talkin ghetto, hip-hop, street folks. That's a homeboy to me.
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Thanx for the TV tip ima try that, I do watch mostly like Sabados Gigante for the ass 'n' titties, so I guess I'll stick around for the news and stuff.
I basically don't denounce my whiteness because my pops always taught me about where he came from, my relatives and ancestors since we got a family history that was recorded. Family on my pops side Came here from Norway in the early 1800s, and I was always fascinated in Viking and Nordic history since the beginning. Contrary to the atmosphere going around, I don't believe that being white is having no culture and history whatsoever, that a black person is "ethnic", a middle eastern person is "ethnic", but white is nothing.
One reason I identify white is that what I see that will happen soon and is already happening is a sort of 'ashamed to be white' atmosphere springing up and around schools, colleges, etc. It's like I said where white people look for any trace of ethnicity and try to latch on to it, like it's their salvation, and if you are full white, you basically feel in order to not be counted off you have to come off like "I'm a bitch, I'm a mark, please Sir can I have another" etc etc to be heard.
You have to make 'white jokes' about yourself and basically if you have an opinion come into a discussion like 'Excuse me, but can I say something here?' I was very into my mex side when I was younger, but I was usually not believed since I looked white and didn't speak spanish etc. But the fucked up shit that made me change my mind a bit was, when this one teacher who didn't like me found out I was Mexican, she all of a sudden started listening to what I had to say, valuing my opinions, etc.
Well, I was never considered Mexican by Latinos, but what I saw was that myself, a very intelligent person, was shunned previously because as a whiteboy I had nothing to contribute. So I could claim Mex, and still not be accepted by Mexicans, but have a voice in the mind of my teachers as a 'bright minority student', or I could claim white and stick by all the full whites or half-breeds like me who for some reason identify white, and deal with being seen as 'just another white boy'.
This experience led me to identify white, since the culture in America right now is very in tune with the art, viewpoint, and contributions of minorities. I felt this was right, also if my views could be seen significant coming from a white person, that would mean that I really had something to say.
The supreme irony of this is that the same situation exists for minorities in less progressive areas. Instead of being dismissed as a white boy, there is dismissal for being black or mexican. I encountered 'white racism' in San Fran, which is a very liberal community. Other places already are or will follow this example.
I'm not sayin 'reverse racism' or whatever is a big problem in our society. Far from it. The pendulum needs to swing back the other way. In order to effectively change the attitudes of people. If the most radical in our society are saying 'Fuck white people', then that will lead to the moderate saying 'Fuck racism'. I am of the opinion that the racism of today will and is giving way to this reverse racism, after which the pendulum will rest and swing neither way, and America will catch up with European attitudes.
I dispute people that tell me white people aren't a race, or that white people have no culture or history. Yes, as a whole white people have wreaked the most havoc on the world compared to every other race pero I don't live in the past. I can find ways to be proud and respectful at the same time, and in my opinion if I did not live in a very liberal environment like SF I would not feel the way I do.
As for as Frisco Code and Bay Slang:
Well for one thing there are no Blood/Crip sets in SF. Niggas out here won't tolerate it. Basically they say they opposed to gang-bangin. That is hypocritical since there is funkin between neighborhood sets and they do sometimes sport their own colors but they still would shut down any C or B sets that would try and come up.
There is XIV and X3 out here but they are in more 'mexican' areas and I think folks out here aren't educated on their war, and they aren't claiming Blood or Crip, so they leave it alone.
People here say blood, nigga like its nathen. That's all around the Bay whether you bang or not. I bet it started in Frisco, though, since traditional gangs/colors dont have implications. What you see more of in SF is some more specific color connotations, for example Lakeview homies wear UNLV gear and red, but UNLV isn't blood or crip.
With 'nigga', it's like this: folks can tell whether you down or not by the way you is, talk, walk, etc. SF, bein very opposed to racism, has a good deal of white/azn/mex homeboys. If niggas see that you ain't comin off disrespectful, that you honestly street folks, a black dude will just be like 'Yea nigga what's hapnin' you know? Homeboys to me is just street folks. I'm not sayin homeless and I'm not sayin them dirty wack ass rockers that put rocks through their nose and shit, I'm talkin ghetto, hip-hop, street folks. That's a homeboy to me.
I AGREE...........
WTF??!! STAY IN YOUR LIVIN AREA WITH THAT SHIT, IN TEXAS, YOU WILL GET YO ASS KNOCC OUT BY A NIGGA.....NO BS.
SAME GOES FOR STL AND KC.
THAT SHIT DONT RIDE.
[JUST SPEAKING]
I'VE HAD SOME WHITE HOMIES AND THEY BEEN AROUND MY NIGGAZ AND NEVER HAVE THEY SAID "WHATS UP NIGGA".
I DONT CARE HOW "you walk, talk, act or the musicc you listen to"........if yous white then be white.
AND WHATS UP WITH ALL THE "COOL" WHITE CATS THESE DAYS CLAMIN TO BE Italian................LMAO, THAT SHIT IS COMEDY.
D-LOCC
WTF??!! STAY IN YOUR LIVIN AREA WITH THAT SHIT, IN TEXAS, YOU WILL GET YO ASS KNOCC OUT BY A NIGGA.....NO BS.
SAME GOES FOR STL AND KC.
THAT SHIT DONT RIDE.
[JUST SPEAKING]
I'VE HAD SOME WHITE HOMIES AND THEY BEEN AROUND MY NIGGAZ AND NEVER HAVE THEY SAID "WHATS UP NIGGA".
I DONT CARE HOW "you walk, talk, act or the musicc you listen to"........if yous white then be white.
AND WHATS UP WITH ALL THE "COOL" WHITE CATS THESE DAYS CLAMIN TO BE Italian................LMAO, THAT SHIT IS COMEDY.
D-LOCC
Man get the fuck out, hick ass buster, this forum is 'The Meeting of the Minds' not 'The Meeting of Budweiser Downing Internet Crips From Texas'. Mid-West Texas? Man West Texas ain't shit but some yellow ass grass. Y'all be cow tippin out there? Blue rag on the cows, or they some P folks?
Don't make me shuffle through your garbage ass posts where you doin big things like refer to yourself in third person, put a mickeys 4 on a blue pano in your sig, and say some generally tarded WWF hick shit.
I seen your pic, you look whiter than me, with a sidewayz fuckin visor lookin like a FUBU Vanilla Ice get up out o here wit ur corny ass game.
"FUCC THE HATERS, YOUNGSTA'S AND OLD ASS BROKE DORKS WITHOUT THEY OWN CRIB, BUT HAVE THE NERVE TO SURFACE WITH SHIT TALK WHEN THEY SEE A CAT STACCIN CHEESE WHILE THEIR POCKETS ARE FILLED WITH LINT."
Yea thats some banger shit, 'yo nigga yo pockets is full of lint!' fuckin haystack monster, I ain't got shit to say to you.
You too stupid for this forum. Notice you ain't got shit to say on my main post. What you do speed read for gangsta shit?
Don't make me shuffle through your garbage ass posts where you doin big things like refer to yourself in third person, put a mickeys 4 on a blue pano in your sig, and say some generally tarded WWF hick shit.
I seen your pic, you look whiter than me, with a sidewayz fuckin visor lookin like a FUBU Vanilla Ice get up out o here wit ur corny ass game.
"FUCC THE HATERS, YOUNGSTA'S AND OLD ASS BROKE DORKS WITHOUT THEY OWN CRIB, BUT HAVE THE NERVE TO SURFACE WITH SHIT TALK WHEN THEY SEE A CAT STACCIN CHEESE WHILE THEIR POCKETS ARE FILLED WITH LINT."
Yea thats some banger shit, 'yo nigga yo pockets is full of lint!' fuckin haystack monster, I ain't got shit to say to you.
You too stupid for this forum. Notice you ain't got shit to say on my main post. What you do speed read for gangsta shit?
Actually, my bad for takin this to a personal level. This D-LOCC homie is a continuous source of entertainment. I'll explain it like this: Atmosphere in the Sucka Free = generally a bit more intelligent/thoughtful than most places, explaining for less racism among most people as well as the lockdown on B/C sets within city limits.