International Gun Ban Treaty
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The 5th amendment was put in place to keep the citizens empowered should the government turn tyrannical... and seeing as how history tends to repeat itself... :/
To offer a fair comparision you should use a country with approximately the same amount of people living in it.. I don't attribute a safer country to gun restricitions because i can turn and find statistics that show an uptick in violence after a gun ban.
its funny how its not the right wing lunatics who rob people and use their firearms during a crime. So the precise reason they need to be taken away is because they will fight to keep them? That makes no sense. Its like saying "the reason im taking away my childs gameboy is because shes going to fight to keep it" lol...
I mean, it sounds nice... a world with no guns, no violence no problems.. but thats just a typical left-wing bleeding heart liberal pipe dream.. Reality tells me that those who abide by the law will be effected by it. Common sense doesnt seem to be so common anymore, even among those who seem the most intelligent.
To offer a fair comparision you should use a country with approximately the same amount of people living in it.. I don't attribute a safer country to gun restricitions because i can turn and find statistics that show an uptick in violence after a gun ban.
its funny how its not the right wing lunatics who rob people and use their firearms during a crime. So the precise reason they need to be taken away is because they will fight to keep them? That makes no sense. Its like saying "the reason im taking away my childs gameboy is because shes going to fight to keep it" lol...
I mean, it sounds nice... a world with no guns, no violence no problems.. but thats just a typical left-wing bleeding heart liberal pipe dream.. Reality tells me that those who abide by the law will be effected by it. Common sense doesnt seem to be so common anymore, even among those who seem the most intelligent.
Like others have said in this thread if its not guns it will be other things, knifes, cars, blunt objects it doesn't really matter. The fact is if someone breaks into my house or threatens the life of myself or my loved ones i should have the right to defend myself by any means necessary!
Anybody who believes that the police will be there in time to save them if someone points a gun at them (or any other weapon) with the intent to cause them harm is got damn fool! The most police are gonna do is scrape your body off the pavement and start a file with your name on it!
FACT: In areas where concealed weapon perments have been issued viloent crime has dropped!
Anybody who believes that the police will be there in time to save them if someone points a gun at them (or any other weapon) with the intent to cause them harm is got damn fool! The most police are gonna do is scrape your body off the pavement and start a file with your name on it!
FACT: In areas where concealed weapon perments have been issued viloent crime has dropped!
It actually does. You can kill someone with a gun from a long distance...not so much with a bat/knife (and if you say throwing knifes, you have to be EXTREMELY skilled to use them properly). Also, as someone else pointed out, it is harder to kill someone with somethign like a knife or a blunt object becuase its much more "emotional". With a gun, you can actual kill someone on the spot, and not realize it. Hell, maybe you were just trying to scare them.
Why would someone be breaking into your house? Do you have enemies? Do you live in a high crime neighborhood? There are other ways to protect yourself outside of a gun. Ever heard of ADT? Its $40 a month and yes, it does work...very well in fact.
No on has even mentioned police in this thread and its irrelevant to the topic at hand...so why even bring it up?
Where is the data to confirm this "fact"? You cant just say that with no proof.
What i find funny here is the number of people who have argued FOR guns, and point out that other weapons can also do the same harm as guns. My question to YOU is, why dont you then use those weapons and instruments, instead of guns? Obviously, there is a reason you prefer guns over these "weapons of mass destruction"...yet, its the gun that you so vehemently defend.
Why would someone be breaking into your house? Do you have enemies? Do you live in a high crime neighborhood? There are other ways to protect yourself outside of a gun. Ever heard of ADT? Its $40 a month and yes, it does work...very well in fact.
No on has even mentioned police in this thread and its irrelevant to the topic at hand...so why even bring it up?
Where is the data to confirm this "fact"? You cant just say that with no proof.
What i find funny here is the number of people who have argued FOR guns, and point out that other weapons can also do the same harm as guns. My question to YOU is, why dont you then use those weapons and instruments, instead of guns? Obviously, there is a reason you prefer guns over these "weapons of mass destruction"...yet, its the gun that you so vehemently defend.
Look breh i've posted here long enough and read enough of your posts to know you like to argue for the sake of arguing..lol Have you ever heard of a bow and arrow by the way? Do you know how stupid it would have sounded if they had told people they couldn't carry a sword back in the day?
You don't have to have enemies for people to break in your house and harm you! ADT is the same as the cops, you better hope they get there in time to save you when somebody shoves a gun in your face! The government wants you to depend on them for everything so they can control your life. "A protectionist society" is a falsehood and doesn't exist!
See i refer to people like you as "sheep." No offence it's just the way the majority of our country is. They suck on the governments tit and expect that somebody is always going to be there to save them. Sometimes there is and in numerous incidents it's been a regular civilian with a (concealed carry permit!) Alot of the time there is not and people die because they don't have the means to defend themselves.
I don't think it is just an american right but a god given right to defend yourself and hey if you want to put your life in the hands of knife or blunt object by all means go ahead i prefer knowing that i have what alot of criminals have, firearms.
Have you ever owned/shot a gun? I am a gun owner and i consider myself very responsible when it come to guns. Most legal gun owners are! Gun stores don't want to sell a gun to some complete idiot because they know it puts everyones 2nd amendment rights in jeopardy!
However passing a bill like the op is talking about would likely bring another civil war! Until i owned guns i never realized how many people have them as you probably do not. Everytime i go in a gun store in the course of an hour i see at least 5-10 people walk out with a firearm and i'm willing to bet 99% of them are ordinary hard working responsible people like myself.
Sorry dude but i'm not going to see this from your side no matter how long you argue your point.
You don't have to have enemies for people to break in your house and harm you! ADT is the same as the cops, you better hope they get there in time to save you when somebody shoves a gun in your face! The government wants you to depend on them for everything so they can control your life. "A protectionist society" is a falsehood and doesn't exist!
See i refer to people like you as "sheep." No offence it's just the way the majority of our country is. They suck on the governments tit and expect that somebody is always going to be there to save them. Sometimes there is and in numerous incidents it's been a regular civilian with a (concealed carry permit!) Alot of the time there is not and people die because they don't have the means to defend themselves.
I don't think it is just an american right but a god given right to defend yourself and hey if you want to put your life in the hands of knife or blunt object by all means go ahead i prefer knowing that i have what alot of criminals have, firearms.
Have you ever owned/shot a gun? I am a gun owner and i consider myself very responsible when it come to guns. Most legal gun owners are! Gun stores don't want to sell a gun to some complete idiot because they know it puts everyones 2nd amendment rights in jeopardy!
However passing a bill like the op is talking about would likely bring another civil war! Until i owned guns i never realized how many people have them as you probably do not. Everytime i go in a gun store in the course of an hour i see at least 5-10 people walk out with a firearm and i'm willing to bet 99% of them are ordinary hard working responsible people like myself.
Sorry dude but i'm not going to see this from your side no matter how long you argue your point.
This is a very good point, Rasan. I just dont like the copout by people that guns have literally NOTHING to do with it, when they are HALF the goddamn equation!
The US, as a whole, is a fucked up place...and there are several under-rooted reasons as to why that is. People need to look at those reasons and deduct from them the reasons why violence and guns are a major focus/problem in the US. The rest of the 1st world seems to have a handle on it, yet, the US is out of control. Why?
The US, as a whole, is a fucked up place...and there are several under-rooted reasons as to why that is. People need to look at those reasons and deduct from them the reasons why violence and guns are a major focus/problem in the US. The rest of the 1st world seems to have a handle on it, yet, the US is out of control. Why?
OK.
I agree, but the way you made it sound...its as if you EXPECT people to break into your house, and those people are brandishing firearms. Not every person who breaks into a house has a firearm, in fact i would be inclined to say that most DON'T. Which leads me to this...
ADT is basically a car alarm..for your house. An alarm LITERALLY goes off, and its fuckin loud. The idea is to scare off the intruder and alert others of what is going on....including law enforcement.
This is a subjective view and there is no proof to back it. Regardless, ADT is not backed by the government as far as i know.
Not once in this thread have i said the government is going to save anything, let alone me. I was simply talking about gun control and how its OUT OF CONTROL in this country...along with the gun crazed US citizens. So, im brainwashed in your eyes for not wanting it to be the Wild, Wild west here...yet you're not a sheep by buying into the borderline-conspiracy theory-ism that seems to be so rampant these days?
Im an atheist.
And this is what im talking about. Why are people seriously thinking that they are going to get killed around every corner? Where are you living? Ever thought of MOVING away from that type of environment? There are plenty of places around the US where you DONT have to worry about that kind of thing. I dont. And i dont even live in an affluent neighborhood. I mean, its almost like you and others are using it as an EXCUSE to own a gun.
Yes.
And yet, you and them are a misfiring synapses away from killing somebody. Just becuase you can control your guns, doesnt mean you can control your emotions. People who commit crimes, for the most part, do it out of emotional distress. When you add humans to ANY equation, it becomes the a dangerous ingrediant to any situation.
I think the problem is people buying unregistered firearms, but just becuase you bought a gun a store and got it registered, doesnt mean you can snap and misuse it.
And this is part of the problem. "Oh, so and so has a gun? I guess i better get on to becuase he might shoot me." This aint 1880. We arent riding on horses.
Youre not supposed to. You think youre going to convince me that guns arent part of the problem? even when i OWNED a gun, i never wanted to use it. The thought of taking a life from somebody is scary as fuck.
I agree, but the way you made it sound...its as if you EXPECT people to break into your house, and those people are brandishing firearms. Not every person who breaks into a house has a firearm, in fact i would be inclined to say that most DON'T. Which leads me to this...
ADT is basically a car alarm..for your house. An alarm LITERALLY goes off, and its fuckin loud. The idea is to scare off the intruder and alert others of what is going on....including law enforcement.
This is a subjective view and there is no proof to back it. Regardless, ADT is not backed by the government as far as i know.
Not once in this thread have i said the government is going to save anything, let alone me. I was simply talking about gun control and how its OUT OF CONTROL in this country...along with the gun crazed US citizens. So, im brainwashed in your eyes for not wanting it to be the Wild, Wild west here...yet you're not a sheep by buying into the borderline-conspiracy theory-ism that seems to be so rampant these days?
Im an atheist.
And this is what im talking about. Why are people seriously thinking that they are going to get killed around every corner? Where are you living? Ever thought of MOVING away from that type of environment? There are plenty of places around the US where you DONT have to worry about that kind of thing. I dont. And i dont even live in an affluent neighborhood. I mean, its almost like you and others are using it as an EXCUSE to own a gun.
Yes.
And yet, you and them are a misfiring synapses away from killing somebody. Just becuase you can control your guns, doesnt mean you can control your emotions. People who commit crimes, for the most part, do it out of emotional distress. When you add humans to ANY equation, it becomes the a dangerous ingrediant to any situation.
I think the problem is people buying unregistered firearms, but just becuase you bought a gun a store and got it registered, doesnt mean you can snap and misuse it.
And this is part of the problem. "Oh, so and so has a gun? I guess i better get on to becuase he might shoot me." This aint 1880. We arent riding on horses.
Youre not supposed to. You think youre going to convince me that guns arent part of the problem? even when i OWNED a gun, i never wanted to use it. The thought of taking a life from somebody is scary as fuck.
I'm done with it dude your just going to give meaningless responses to everything i say. Just because i own a gun doesn't mean i want to kill people or feel "paranoid" somebody is going to kill me..smh I would use a gun in self defence if i had to!
If you ever had a home invasion or got robbed at gunpoint (which i hope you don't because you are obviously not prepared) you might see it differently. Also your comments about registered and unregistered firearms is kinda making me think you have never owned a gun and don't fully understand the laws that vary state to state.
Anybody who thinks they're safe from violence in any location on the planet is an idiot. I don't know what planet you think you're on? I know you gonna take it personal like i'm calling you and idiot but its true! Thats a really STUPID statement to think that your location makes you "safe."
If you ever had a home invasion or got robbed at gunpoint (which i hope you don't because you are obviously not prepared) you might see it differently. Also your comments about registered and unregistered firearms is kinda making me think you have never owned a gun and don't fully understand the laws that vary state to state.
Anybody who thinks they're safe from violence in any location on the planet is an idiot. I don't know what planet you think you're on? I know you gonna take it personal like i'm calling you and idiot but its true! Thats a really STUPID statement to think that your location makes you "safe."
If you were done, you wouldnt have responded. Yet, here you are. You can defend yourself without a gun. Stop using it as an excuse because a small percentage of the US is actually armed. Its just the ones that are, dont know how to act.
I had a sawed-off shotgun put to my face when i was 15 for my starter parka. I have been SHOT AT when i was 17. I packed a gun for 5 years of my adult life. One gun i owned was GIVEN to me by a buddy...no receipt of transaction. It was registered under HIS name and had i used it, his name would come up. The other was bought from a friend and i had him right up a receipt of sale for me. In the state of Washington, that is considered a LEGAL transaction of a firearm.
There are SAFER places than others. Cut the crap. In fact, here are 100 to chose from IN THE US alone.
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100safest/
Apparently not the same one as you. Not every corner of the US is like Compton or Russia...why youre making it out to be is beyond me. This aint a fuckin middle eastern war zone.
LOL...i dont take anyone here serious. Cmon man, its the fuckin internet. Again, a there are safer locations than others. This is not some secret that I conjured up.
I had a sawed-off shotgun put to my face when i was 15 for my starter parka. I have been SHOT AT when i was 17. I packed a gun for 5 years of my adult life. One gun i owned was GIVEN to me by a buddy...no receipt of transaction. It was registered under HIS name and had i used it, his name would come up. The other was bought from a friend and i had him right up a receipt of sale for me. In the state of Washington, that is considered a LEGAL transaction of a firearm.
There are SAFER places than others. Cut the crap. In fact, here are 100 to chose from IN THE US alone.
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100safest/
Apparently not the same one as you. Not every corner of the US is like Compton or Russia...why youre making it out to be is beyond me. This aint a fuckin middle eastern war zone.
LOL...i dont take anyone here serious. Cmon man, its the fuckin internet. Again, a there are safer locations than others. This is not some secret that I conjured up.