ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION? *WESTCOAST VIEWPOINT*

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Meta4iCAL

Meta4iCAL

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Solorio Pits said:
My thing is when prostitution becomes an issue in a certain area they set up stings to punish the johns. Why not do the same for immigration. Why not park or have a decoy out in front of home depot n fine the people who hire "illegal" immagrants for cheap labor. Isn't it illegal to pay someone for work "under the table"? I think it's a federal offense. I'll tell you why. Cuz when gov. Wilson came out with all these strong immagration laws he had an illegal maid that worked for him. Its a fact. Look it up. I'm tired of people saying there taking are jobs. Who should u be mad at the worker or the employer who is lookin for cheap labor?
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I agree, I'm not blaming the immigrants at all

if people are willing to hire, and they can get away with it, why shouldn't they?

again, I have no problem with people coming here to make a better life for themselves... and I feel if necessary the government should make it easier for these people to become citizens

in the end it would make life better for those people and all people in this country
 
SFC I-Side

SFC I-Side

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@Calm

Fine dont run with the joke, what im tryna convey is that there is no utopia, and I hear you saying well back in the dayz ,before this continent was raped and pilaged by european immigration and society/culture, The Native Americans had this whole life thing figured out (not just referring to your joke), ex i hear u saying n i agree there was a much more natural and spiritual connection with the land and people than we have now. Which is true from my understanding of history.

What is the point in comparing the two cultures? Its unfair to say that the way of life of the indigenous people of North America is obsolete, but I have been to plenty of reservations and to say that those places, as depressing as they are, dont benefit from euro american society is bullshit, indoor plumbing as a basic example.

When you say you could care less about the social economic view of this country, that really confuses me, because the social economic situation of this country is what you live in on a daily basis, its the wage of your job, how your treated by appearance, and to be honest thats the area where I see the problems in this country. I dont think the problem with this country is that people dont show enough respect to the land, the masses have been trained to be greedy greedy dumb consumers, and the top 1 percent have sacrificed social development for economic development, and we run around blaming each other
 
BOOBOO619

BOOBOO619

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The problem is not them, we are the problem. Our stupid laws,etc... We have so many fucked up social problems of our own, so it doesn't matter if your legal or not. There's lot of cutbacks we need to make. Personally I say get rid of social programs like Welfare, setion8, subsidized housing,etc... There's far too many freeloaders in this country that think they deserve a fucking handout. This country provides far too much opportunities to become a fucking freeloading piece of shit.
 
Solorio Pits

Solorio Pits

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@booboo. I agree n disagree. I think it should be minimized. Basically like saying you can only get it for 4 years straight n that's it. If u can't get your shit together in 4 years or even 6 years then go slice your wrist. The problem is we allow people to live off it for ever. Or give it to the working single parents. They need to be stricter. Section 8 is gettin worst cuz the really don't relugate it enuff.
 
Az-iz

Az-iz

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SFC I-Side said:
@Calm



What is the point in comparing the two cultures? Its unfair to say that the way of life of the indigenous people of North America is obsolete, but I have been to plenty of reservations and to say that those places, as depressing as they are, dont benefit from euro american society is bullshit, indoor plumbing as a basic example.
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The Mayans had pressurized plumbing, way before a Spaniard stepped foot in the Americas. The Egyptians and the Chinese had it.
 
BOOBOO619

BOOBOO619

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Solorio Pits said:
@booboo. I agree n disagree. I think it should be minimized. Basically like saying you can only get it for 4 years straight n that's it. If u can't get your shit together in 4 years or even 6 years then go slice your wrist. The problem is we allow people to live off it for ever. Or give it to the working single parents. They need to be stricter. Section 8 is gettin worst cuz the really don't relugate it enuff.
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I understand, I'm not against social programs 100%. Sure some people do NEED it in order to survive and there's absolutely nothing wrong in giving a helping hand in dire situations like that. I'm all for helping the elderly in situations like this especially. But there's others out there, especially young people who abuse the fuck out of these programs. If your young and able to fuck, you should be able to work. I'm just sick and tired of seeing all these freeloaders because the ones in the end that have to pay the bills for them are the middle class. It hits the middle class the hardest and we kind of just end up evening out with these freeloaders. It's kind of like why fucking work when we just end up having practially the same shit as all these freeloaders. That's why these fucks don't want to work cause they can still hang with the rest.

It's a flawed system. The hard working middle class are the ones that deserve the HELP with the subsidized housing,etc..., not freeloaders because we actually contribute to society. Help the middle class and it will eventually reach the lower because we will be able to provide with jobs,etc... I say everyone who can provide proof of a job and consistency with it, no criminal background should be able to live the American dream. Housing SHOULD be affordable to those that WORK, yet it's those that don't work that get the freebie. FUCK THAT.

This shit is all backwards. The hard workers get punished and those that don't, recieve the easy way out. That's not the American way.
 
Az-iz

Az-iz

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BOOBOO619 said:
I understand, I'm not against social programs 100%. Sure some people do NEED it in order to survive and there's absolutely nothing wrong in giving a helping hand in dire situations like that. I'm all for helping the elderly in situations like this especially. But there's others out there, especially young people who abuse the fuck out of these programs. If your young and able to fuck, you should be able to work. I'm just sick and tired of seeing all these freeloaders because the ones in the end that have to pay the bills for them are the middle class. It hits the middle class the hardest and we kind of just end up evening out with these freeloaders. It's kind of like why fucking work when we just end up having practially the same shit as all these freeloaders. That's why these fucks don't want to work cause they can still hang with the rest.

It's a flawed system. The hard working middle class are the ones that deserve the HELP with the subsidized housing,etc..., not freeloaders because we actually contribute to society. Help the middle class and it will eventually reach the lower because we will be able to provide with jobs,etc... I say everyone who can provide proof of a job and consistency with it, no criminal background should be able to live the American dream. Housing SHOULD be affordable to those that WORK, yet it's those that don't work that get the freebie. FUCK THAT.

This shit is all backwards. The hard workers get punished and those that don't, recieve the easy way out. That's not the American way.
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How would Capitalism work if there were no poor? How would one get rich?? The most socialized form of government in this country is for the rich. They privatize profits and socialize losses.
 
Rasan

Rasan

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like someone said earlier, this immigration law crap is nothing more than a distraction. The police can notify the border patrol if they suspect you are here illegally. Its nothing new and its been goin on. i see it all the time and SD, and one of my good friends is a border patrol supervisor.
so with that being said, the law is retarded, and there is no need to fight for it or against it, as things are already in place to aid local law enforcement to assist the border patrol. just my two cents!
 
GHP

GHP

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well we'll see if this stuff works in Arizona, if it does i wouldn't be surprised if other states followed suit. I think the biggest thing is the farm workers, if they deport all of them it will be a big task to find people willing to work that hard for practically nothing. Pretty ironic for a country in recession with 10% unemployment

I think they need to work on making it not suck so bad to live in Mexico and all the other fucked up central american countries, I'm sure if they could live a happier life in their home country they wouldn't come to the U.S.
 
Supa SAV'D OUTT

Supa SAV'D OUTT

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Meta4iCAL said:
do you guys think "AmeriKKa" is the only country in the world that's racist?

just curious... I'm not denying there are racist people in our country (white people aren't all devils though) but I think a lot of countries are most racist than the United States

I'll probably be discriminated against in plenty of countries I go to because of the color of my skin... in fact I have been

I was arrested in Mexico... for absolutely nothing... I'm pretty sure me being White had something to do with it... (the only White people in the area was me and some of the people I was with) I don't have any animosity towards Mexicans because of it

but just sayin.... interested to hear your guys take on that point
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to be honest & from my perspective from being in the navy and traveling around the world ... alot of countries like bahrain, dubai, thailand, australia (aboringinals) they dont like white ppl & thats jus keepin it 100. they all kno about slavery not sayin they have a hatred for whites but they jus dont really like em like that
 
Timm

Timm

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GHP said:
i wouldn't be surprised if other states followed suit
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Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas and Utah are starting to adapt this law
 
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Fucky McFuckerson

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SFC I-Side said:
What is the point in comparing the two cultures? Its unfair to say that the way of life of the indigenous people of North America is obsolete, but I have been to plenty of reservations and to say that those places, as depressing as they are, dont benefit from euro american society is bullshit, indoor plumbing as a basic example.
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This paragraph is irrelevant because you're also comparing time frames. The world was a very different place 300 years ago.
 
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