how many of y'all actually care if we go to war with iraq?

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

fact is, giving birth to a child is a wonderful blessing from God. if i were blessed enough to have a child with my girl, i would thank the Lord for such a blessing. if i had a kid with a girl i only talked to so i could hit it, and she had the kid, then it serves me right for pre marital sex wit a bitch. thank God i have found the one that i want to have children with so i won't get caught up in that, but, if you follow God's plan, he doesn't let you down. that's all i can say about that and where i stand on it

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Ya, Thank God!

 

[drankedout]

CHRISHOGG14 i don't understand why people are sticking up for saddam???? he needs to die. i hate to say it, but i love saying it at the same time.

CHRISHOGG14 like i said before, the people of afghanistan where shit on when the taliban regime came into power. they had to give up alot of possessions such as their televisions, because the taliban didn't want them to see what's going on in the outside world. when we got rid of the Taliban, those people could actually live a little bit of life again. if you think getting rid of the taliban didn't make the people happy that don't support terrorism in their own country again, you are crazy.

So you think that going to war will help these people? To go to war we are going to kill the people we are trying to help meaning that we are just like Saddam.

I am not sticking up for Saddam he is a terrible terrible person, but if were going to war with the intent to help out the people (which were not) how are we helping them by killing them?

 

[drankedout]

if whoever was going to try and pull the plug on the earth was going to do it, i think they would have done it by now. if that is what God wants for this planet, i stand behind that decision. death does not scare me, God will either protect me on this planet, or it is my time to be with him in heaven. either way, i can't lose

CHRISHOGG14 fact is, giving birth to a child is a wonderful blessing from God. if i were blessed enough to have a child with my girl, i would thank the Lord for such a blessing. if i had a kid with a girl i only talked to so i could hit it, and she had the kid, then it serves me right for pre marital sex wit a bitch. thank God i have found the one that i want to have children with so i won't get caught up in that, but, if you follow God's plan, he doesn't let you down. that's all i can say about that and where i stand on it

Are you really all that sure that Gods on your side?

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

^^^^^^^because we are not just going to drop a bomb on them!!!!!! there is strategic moves to be carried out. we are taught to fire only when fired upon. the areas where iraqi leaders are will be stormed to try and break down their regime.

also, saddam is killing his own, as soon as we get him out of there, they will be able to stop living in fear of their own government (hopefully)

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

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Are you really all that sure that Gods on your side? [/QUOTE]


100000% positive that God is watching over me.

 

[drankedout]

also, saddam is killing his own, as soon as we get him out of there, they will be able to stop living in fear of their own government (hopefully)

Unless we choose their leader for them, but i dont think that will happen the US never does that.

CHRISHOGG14 ^^^^^^^because we are not just going to drop a bomb on them!!!!!! there is strategic moves to be carried out. we are taught to fire only when fired upon. the areas where iraqi leaders are will be stormed to try and break down their regime

Sorry buddybut unfortunantly it doesnt work that way, if we go to war CIVILIANS WILL LOSE THEIR LIVES. Get out of whatever hole you live under.

100000% positive that God is watching over me.

Why because you support the actions of a country that has killed millions and millions of innocent people. And that was founded on killing off tons and tons of natives. And that brought a whole race into our country to be slaves for us. If this is the God thats on your side, i dont want him on my side. And dont tell me that if i dont like it then leave, because i would rather stand up and fight for what i think is right then just run away from my problems.

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

no, i believe that because i have been saved. the Lord has let me feel his love on my soul, a feeling better than i have ever known. it says in the bible, unless a man be saved, he will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. i have been saved by God, that's why i am so sure.

and yes, innocent people will die, that is inevitable. people die in war, that's a fact. it is hard to never kill anyone on accident in a crowd of people or when you are nervous and jumpy with a semi auto. and innocent people will be hit by missiles, that is a fact. but, he made it seem like we are going to war with civlians, that's why i said that. a minimal number of civilians will die unless they attack soldiers, that is also a fact.

and they will hopefully have a somewhat of a choice of who comes into power next. just like what happend in afghanistan. after the taliban, i believe there was a slight bit of a vote or something of that nature to get the gov. they have now.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

because we are not just going to drop a bomb on them!!!!!! there is strategic moves to be carried out. we are taught to fire only when fired upon.

Oh come on, thats bullshit. In every war innocent people die. There is no way around it. And what about friendly fire? Didnt you see that tape they released? Those canadians got killed by americans.

also, saddam is killing his own, as soon as we get him out of there, they will be able to stop living in fear of their own government (hopefully)

Saddam is killing his own!?! What proof do you have of that? Explain yourself. If anything is killing his own people its the US sanctions!

100000% positive that God is watching over me.

How are you so positive? What supporting evidence do you have? How do you know that god isnt watching over Saddam?

no, i believe that because i have been saved. the Lord has let me feel his love on my soul, a feeling better than i have ever known. it says in the bible, unless a man be saved, he will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. i have been saved by God, that's why i am so sure.

If thats what you want to think, fine by me. But always remember, you dont have to believer in god in order to be "saved" or happy.

and yes, innocent people will die, that is inevitable. people die in war, that's a fact. it is hard to never kill anyone on accident in a crowd of people or when you are nervous and jumpy with a semi auto. and innocent people will be hit by missiles, that is a fact. but, he made it seem like we are going to war with civlians, that's why i said that. a minimal number of civilians will die unless they attack soldiers, that is also a fact.

So how can you justify there deaths? Why should these people die? For what, Oil?

and they will hopefully have a somewhat of a choice of who comes into power next. just like what happend in afghanistan. after the taliban, i believe there was a slight bit of a vote or something of that nature to get the gov. they have now.

They will NOT have a choice of who comes into power and you know it. It will be whoever america tells them to obey.

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

well, it basically seems that you just want to argue everything i have to say. everything i say, you basically say the opposite, i give up.

however, on the God issue, you won't be saved unless you invite the Lord into your heart. i don't know where you are getting your information, i really don't. but relgion is completely another subject. in my faith as a born again Christian, this is the way it is, the only way as far as i am concerned. you can't get into heaven without being saved, and you can't be saved unless you ask the Lord into your heart and allow him to make a change, you can't argue that unless you are of another faith, if you are, just leave it at that because i don't really want to get into that long drawn out conversation right now.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

^^^^i think thats for the ladies to decide, not us.

i dont think any1 should decide on wheather thay want to KILL their own flesh and blood out of convenience

 

[Mcleanhatch]

Sorry buddybut unfortunantly it doesnt work that way, if we go to war CIVILIANS WILL LOSE THEIR LIVES. Get out of whatever hole you live under.[/[/QUOTE]

sorry to tell ya but civilians lose their lives all the time. we lost close to 3000 about a minute ago. i know alote have already forgot!

 

[Mcleanhatch]

Saddam is killing his own!?! What proof do you have of that? Explain yourself. If anything is killing his own people its the US sanctions!

ya he killed his own. the kurds in northern Iraq when they rose up against him he gased them ALL including women and children!!!!!!!! nearly 10,000 of his own.

he also killed both of his som in laws for defecting after luring them back to iraq under pretenses that all would be forgiven.

and the ist goes on but it is to long to type out.

 

[nefar559]

ya he killed his own. the kurds in northern Iraq when they rose up against him he gased them ALL including women and children!!!!!!!! nearly 10,000 of his own.

US knew about this, but yet let it happen....should of back them
up

 

[BaSICCally]

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[Mcleanhatch]

US knew about this, but yet let it happen....should of back them
up

ya to bad clinton had his head up his oops i mean monicas ass. i guess he thought it was more important to make the presidency of the USA look like shit than to help the Kurds

 

[nefar559]

ya to bad clinton had his head up his oops i mean monicas ass. i guess he thought it was more important to make the presidency of the USA look like shit than to help the Kurds

it happen during the gulf war.

 

[miggidy]

Saddam didn't kill his own people, the media never tells you that the Kurds are immigrants.
Sure, there's no excuse for killing civillians, but how is this different than what the US government does?
Uncle Sam is brain washing everyone here in the States.
Uncle Sam kills his own AND other people too, yet you never hear that in the news. Uncle Sam is known to secretly test chemicle agents on both the public and military.

Sam and Saddam are no different!
They're both WICKED villians who need to be dealt with in my book....

 

[nefar559]

1. I have heard so many times the argument that Saddam Hussein was plotting an assassination attempt on the first President Bush. First, the evidence linking him was circumstantial, and he also took a few ICBM’s for it, and second, we talk about assassinating Saddam Hussein all the time on Prime Time television. If your defense of this argument includes the line “Saddam is a tyrant and Bush was not”… save it.

2. “He gassed his own people”. I’ve heard this in every single argument favoring an invasion of Iraq. However, it’s quite regretful that we fail to complete the sentence by not adding “…with our chemicals, our logistics and our political support”.

3. And then there are those who say “peace loving people” will give up anything for the sake of peace, and don’t want war to solve the current issue. Then I should be correct in my assertion if I say that those who demand war are not “peace loving”, shouldn’t I?

4. Of course, no argument is complete without expressing deep sympathy towards the people of Iraq. Seems like the top priority right now is to free the people of Iraq from the dictatorship of Hussein. I wonder if we have the same plans for the people of N. Korea, Iran and pretty much most of Africa?

5. There is another argument, which is usually used as a last resort, to induce fear in the hearts of people everywhere. Saddam Hussein they say, HAS nuclear weapons and WILL give them to a terrorist organization such as Al-Qaida for detonation on U.S. soil. If that’s not frightening enough, they use graphical expressions such as “a dark mushroom cloud over Manhattan” (I believe Condoleeza Rice gets credit for this one) and “millions of dead Americans” to paint a very untrue picture of the real world. In reality, there is no evidence Iraq even has any nuclear capabilities or that Saddam Hussein is willing to waste a nuclear weapon by giving it to terrorists and not hanging on to it as a bargaining tool. Besides, if I recall correctly, in 1991 U.S. troops were within days if not hours of capturing the Iraqi capital. Saddam Hussein had every reason to believe that he was going to be taken out. Yet, to this day there is no credible evidence that the Iraqi army used chemical or biological weapons against allied troops, Israel or Saudi Arabia. Why would he want to do it now, of all times?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

it happen during the gulf war.

:lick: