HealthCare Reform Passed: FUCKED

[Meta4iCAL]

I haven't gotten all my info from that video

I didn't watch any youtube related to the bill until I just watched that... and I already had my opinion on it

I should educate myself more on the subject... but based on what I know about it so far... I don't agree with it

I feel there are some positive aspects for sure... I like the idea of all Americans having an option to have affordable health care... but just feel making things mandatory and the government controlling everything isn't the best way to go about it

whatever though... we all have our opinions... the bill was passed, all we can do now is wait and see how it affects us

it will be a while before it comes into play anyways... hopefully we're not arguing the entire time

 

[X_KaLiBa]

^^do you think people with pre-existing conditions should be assured of access to affordable healthcare?

 

[Artistic]

metallica he just destroyed you with his knowledge of the healthcare bill

 

[NAMO]

So survival of the fittest is murdering elders, women & children while men are out hunting.

Or while the people sleep you come in & kill them in there sleep.

Thats an act of a coward

Its called War.

 

[Foul Mouth]

^^do you think people with pre-existing conditions should be assured of access to affordable healthcare?

its not gona be affordable.......premiums are going to go up........


and they get healthcare player, just not insurance...........EVERYBODY in this fuckin country, illegal or not, already can go to the county or clinic and get "free" healthcare.........all this bill is doing is fucking up the insurance industry.........


i work for an insurance company and my dept will be no longer needed.........thats fantastic huh? more jobs will be lossed. thanks Obama.......

 

[DeepEastBeast]

I've been sick for years nigga off top healthcare can't help me

 

[VanD]

but either way you look at it, there's no denying this bill allows the government to have more control over us, and it limits freedoms to a certain extent... for businesses and individuals

this is the most important aspect of everything.

they continue to take away freedoms and more of the same is on the way.

 

[BEAR]

Here come the Republican amendments
By Shailagh Murray
Senate Republican amendments to the health-care "fixes" bill are stacking up, and some could prove tough for Democrats to oppose when the around-the-clock "vote-a-rama" begins later today. And yet if the legislation changes in any way, it must return to the House for a final vote. So look for Democrats to hang tough -- at least on most of these measures.

Here are highlights from the growing list:

Among the 12 amendments offered by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), a physician, one would would stop fraudulent Medicare and Medicaid payments for prescription drugs prescribed by dead providers, or to dead patients. According to Coburn, this actually happens. The amendment also would prohibit coverage of Viagra and other erectile dysfunction medications to convicted child molesters, rapists, and sex offenders. "There's no prohibition in the bill for this, at this time," Coburn said on the Senate floor.

Other Coburn amendments seek to offset the hiring of new government health-care workers with comparable layoffs; add new fraud-busting measures to cut Medicaid and Medicare abuses; and exempt band-aids, surgical gowns and latex gloves from a new tax on medical devices.

Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH), the ranking Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, is pushing an amendment that could potentially gut the underlying bill, by ensuring that its hundreds of billions in Medicare cuts be spent on the Medicare program -- instead of to expand coverage for the uninsured. "It is a hard-and-fast commitment that Medicare savings will go to benefit Medicare, and that should be our purpose," Gregg said.

And Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking GOP member of the Finance Committee and an early negotiator of the Senate bill that become law on Tuesday, wants to force President Obama, his senior staff, members of Congress and other high-ranking government officials to buy their health insurance over new exchanges. The bill just signed by Obama would create these state-based marketplaces for those who don't have access to affordable plans through their employers.

"President Obama has publicly advertised that his reforms would give members of the public the same coverage available to members of Congress," Grassley explained in a statement from his office. "This amendment would ensure that he, his successors, and all his appointed political officials would also have the same coverage members of the public enrolled in the exchange receive."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/03/here-come-the-republican-amend.html?wprss=44

 

[Ghost Dance]

Fuck SPICS, NIGGERS, FAGZ, AND HEALTH CARE REFORM....

You fuckin losers always want a free hand out...welfare now this!!!!

If it aint white it aint right....Glen Beck for president bitches!!!

 

[Mac Jesus]

I thought Ghost Dance was a native american.

 

[Ghost Dance]

pull yourself up by your bootstraps like we did

 

[KCVILLIAN]

i dont know the exacts or a general outline of enough of it but the biggest neg ive heard and came to my own conclusion about is manatory health care.
fuck if people cant pay for health care how the fuck they gonna pay the fine for not having it?

but a HUGE LOL for any1 thinking any protest, outcry, petitions, marches or anything would sway or change what the powers to be want to happen. we had no say and never will. this country is fucked the day the people started to let them run the country for themselves and not FOR the people

 

[Collapse]

Some congress members have been threatened and bricks have been thrown through their windows with notes attached to them.

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=347838

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

pull yourself up by your bootstraps like we did

How do you explain Asians, Indians, and Iranians "pulling themselves up" without the help of slavery?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._per_capita_income_by_ancestry

Why didn't Africans in Africa "pull themselves up" on the back of their own slave trade?

In early Islamic states of the western Sudan, including Ghana (750-1076), Mali (1235–1645), Segou (1712–1861), and Songhai (1275-1591), about a third of the population were slaves. In Senegambia, between 1300 and 1900, close to one-third of the population was enslaved. In Sierra Leone in the 19th century about half of the population consisted of slaves. In the 19th century at least half the population was enslaved among the Duala of the Cameroon, the Igbo and other peoples of the lower Niger, the Kongo, and the Kasanje kingdom and Chokwe of Angola. Among the Ashanti and Yoruba a third of the population consisted of slaves.[96] The population of the Kanem (1600–1800) was about a third-slave. It was perhaps 40% in Bornu (1580–1890). Between 1750 and 1900 from one- to two-thirds of the entire population of the Fulani jihad states consisted of slaves.[96] The population of the Sokoto caliphate formed by Hausas in the northern Nigeria and Cameroon was half-slave in the 19th century. Between 65% to 90% population of Arab-Swahili Zanzibar was enslaved. Roughly half the population of Madagascar was enslaved.[96][97] When British rule was first imposed on the Sokoto Caliphate and the surrounding areas in northern Nigeria at the turn of the 20th century, approximately 2 million to 2.5 million people there were slaves.[98] The Anti-Slavery Society estimated there were 2 million slaves in Ethiopia in the early 1930s out of an estimated population of between 8 and 16 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#The_transatlantic_slave_trade

Why were many of the other countries involved in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade unable to "pull themselves up"?

http://z.about.com/d/africanhistory/1/0/6/M/SlaveryTable002.jpg

 

[Nebulizah]

You're trying to talk common sense to a troll who has none.

might as well divide by zero, it'd be more productive.

 

[TONY206]

 

[DJ Mark 7]

This TOTALLY belongs in the Tea Bagger's Forum

 

[corinthian]