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Cool facts about Longclaw

"It's my father's sword, and his father before him. The Mormonts have carried it for five centuries. It was meant for my son, Jorah. He brought dishonor to our House... but he had the grace to leave the sword before he fled from Westeros."



―Lord Commander Jeor Mormont[src]
Longclaw is a Valyrian steel sword, in the possession of House Mormont for five centuries. When Lord Jeor Mormont retired from his lordship to take the black and command the Night's Watch, he passed it to his son and heir, Ser Jorah Mormont. When Jorah went into exile after trying to sell some poachers into slavery, he had the sword sent back to his father on the Wall.

Years later, Jeor gave Longclaw to Jon Snow as a reward for saving his life from a wight. Before giving it to Jon he had the pommel remade, replacing the bear with a direwolf head, the sigil of House Stark.



Longclaw is a bastard sword (also known as a "Hand-and-a-half sword"), which is longer than a longsword, but shorter than a greatsword. Longswords are meant to be wielded with two hands but can be used with one hand if extra reach is needed. Greatswords are so large that they can only be wielded using both hands, preventing usage of a shield. Bastard swords can be used with one or two hands: while they are larger than longswords they are short enough that they can still be wielded with one hand, though it is preferable to use two hands.​
 

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Ok so that was his sword, Longclaw. I was under the impression that Valyrian steel and dragonglass were different materials?
They're different. But Valryian steel has spells woven into it when it's forged.

Blades known to still exist:
Heartsbane, the ancestral two-handed greatsword of House Tarly, currently in the possession of Lord Randyll Tarly. (Sam's dad)
Lady Forlorn, the ancestral sword of House Corbray, currently in the possession of Ser Lyn Corbray. (Knight of the Vale)
Longclaw, the ancestral Valyrian steel bastard sword of House Mormont. Currently in the possession of Jon Snow.
Nightfall, the ancestral blade of House Harlaw and currently wielded by Ser Harras Harlaw. (Theon's cousin)
Oathkeeper, one of two Valyrian blades reforged by Tobho Mott from Ice. The blade was made for Ser Jaime Lannister, but he has given it to Brienne of Tarth for use in her quest to locate Sansa Stark. The blade was given its name, Oathkeeper, at that time.
Red Rain, the sword of House Drumm, which was stolen by them in a raid. Given the name and coloring, possibly the ancestral sword of House Reyne.
Widow's Wail, one of two Valyrian blades reforged by Tobho Mott from Ice. Following Joffrey Baratheon's death, ownership of Widow's Wail has presumably passed to his younger brother, Tommen.
The dagger with dragonbone hilt wielded by Bran Stark's failed assassin, and currently in the possession of Petyr Baelish.
Valyrian steel arakh owned by Caggo. (not in the show)
Valyrian steel axe reputedly possessed by House Celtigar. (not in the show)

Blades with known fates:
Ice, the ancestral two-handed greatsword of House Stark. Following Eddard Stark's execution in King's Landing, it is reforged into two longswords (Widow's Wail and Oathkeeper).

Blades with unknown fates:
Blackfyre, the sword of Aegon I Targaryen. Carried by all Targaryen kings until Aegon IV, who gave it to his bastard Daemon, who rose in rebellion against the Targaryens, taking the sword's name for his house. Its whereabouts are currently unknown.
Brightroar, the ancestral sword of House Lannister, lost when King Tommen II Lannister of the Rock sailed to Valyria and never returned.
Dark Sister, the sword wielded by Visenya Targaryen. Its last known owner was Bryden "Bloodraven" Rivers.
Lamentation, the ancestral sword of House Royce, lost in the Storming of the Dragonpit.
Orphan-Maker, the ancestral sword of House Roxton. Its last known owner was Ser Jon Roxton.
Truth, a Valyrian steel sword last carried by Moredo Rogare of Lys.
Vigilance, the ancestral sword of House Hightower. Its last known owner was Lord Ormund Hightower.
 
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Yeah pretty good episode.

How the fuck is anyone going to beat those White Walkers? Shit even if all of Westeros bands together that seems like a futile fight.

Also since when did the White Walkers get so agile? In past episodes haven't they all been just like casually moseying around - like the on Sam killed? The one that came after Jon was beasting.
 
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Yeah pretty good episode.

How the fuck is anyone going to beat those White Walkers? Shit even if all of Westeros bands together that seems like a futile fight.

Also since when did the White Walkers get so agile? In past episodes haven't they all been just like casually moseying around - like the on Sam killed? The one that came after Jon was beasting.
Well, my theory is the motherfuckin dragons would fuck the white walkers up. Dragonglass kills them, imagine what an actual Dragon would do. And fire kills the wights as well. Its a story of Fire and Ice after all, right? The darkness and the light. Seems the Queen of Dragons is destined to join with the North and save the realm, or at least die trying.

As for the wights and the white walkers, I seem to recall reading or hearing they are more beastly the further north, or the colder it is. The colder the winter, the stronger they are. Something like that.
 
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did they ever mention The Prince That Was Promised on the show?
Looks like I was wrong. I have no memory of this and it was probably a small part that Melisandre mentioned in a scene, which is easy to overlook cuz she's always talking prophecy mumbo jumbo:

The Prince That Was Promised

"You will betray the men serving you, you will betray your family, you will betray everything you once held dear... and it will all be worth it, because you are the Son of Fire, you are the Warrior of Light."
―Melisandre to Stannis Baratheon

"The Prince That Was Promised",[1] also known as the Son of Fire and Warrior of Light,[2] is a mythic figure in the religion of the Lord of Light. According to prophecy, the Prince That Was Promised would be reborn "amidst salt and smoke"[3] and pull a flaming sword from the flames, Lightbringer, to combat the coming darkness.[4]

According to Lady Melisandre, priestess of the Lord of Light, Stannis Baratheon is the prophesied Prince.

Another Red Priestess, this one in Volantis, preaches to a group of slaves that Daenerys Targaryen is their prophesied savior.[5]


According to Melisandre, Stannis Baratheon is the prophesied Prince That Was Promised, the Warrior of Light.
 
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My question is if a giant died could the white walkers turn it into a Wight? Imagine that!

The giant was fucking badass last night, swinging the tree on fire. And then he walked into the water like a boss saying fuck your puny boat!


Yes I was wondering the same thing! I thought the giant might go down when he got swarmed in that hut.
 
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Well, my theory is the motherfuckin dragons would fuck the white walkers up. Dragonglass kills them, imagine what an actual Dragon would do. And fire kills the wights as well. Its a story of Fire and Ice after all, right? The darkness and the light. Seems the Queen of Dragons is destined to join with the North and save the realm, or at least die trying.

As for the wights and the white walkers, I seem to recall reading or hearing they are more beastly the further north, or the colder it is. The colder the winter, the stronger they are. Something like that.


Great analysis.
 
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Pretty much every scene was great last night. We got to see Reek being Theon for a brief moment and admitting to Sansa her brothers are alive, Tyrion interacting with Daenarys was pretty fucking awesome, Cersei put in her place literally licking the floor, and Arya being an assassin about to take on her first mission/test. Obviously everything was overshadowed by the awesomeness that occurred after. Oh and Jorah and his greyscale; is he about to spread the disease? Fucking guy won't give up on his love for the queen of Dragons, about to fuck everything up!

Episode got a 9.9 rating on IMDB
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt3866850/
 
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