Has anyone here ATTEMPTED to toss out all they have learned in regards to religion...

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Stockton209SS said:
Asking this is like saying, you're a Drug Dealer in a Gang life, and you have a son, and the Environment you know he's going to live in will turn him into either a Crack head, a drug dealer or a Gangster. So what do you do, abort the baby so that he won't be a mistake in life? Or do you allow him to be born, and give him an Oppurtunity to make something of himself?
but if it is predestined then you cant make nothin of yourself god has made you what n will your person will be. [[then why not skip all of life and just exist in heaven or in hell depending on where he chose for you to be?]]yes what is the actual purpose if you really dont have free will
 

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Stockton209SS said:
Or do you allow him to be born, and give him an Oppurtunity to make something of himself?

ok so since he has the opporunity to make something of himself then it means its his own free will that dictates where he ends up.
and if it is like you say that God already knows the situation for the person such as a muslim to find christianity ISNT likely to happen, then that means the chips are already stacked against the man, which adds to the factors.


also, tell me when you think of God and what he is about and who he is, do you see ANY suffering for ETERNITY anywhere in his personality?
people do stupid shit all the time, some people need their whole lives to learn one lesson and move on, thats how evolution happens.
you keep making the same mistake over n over until you get it.
say i lived 60 years, and everyday in my life i sinned, is that equivalent for suffering for eterntiy?
the never ending ever n ever?, and a horrible suffering at that ?


most of these questions are squished(lol funny word) within each other so just answer whatever you want.
 
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k-nine said:
the bible is clear about jesus being god john ch1 but moses,abraham,isaac,david,enoch,elijah,elisha,isaiah,jeremiah,noah and jacob they did not follow jesus just as i dont does that mean that i dont follw god.
Yes, John Chapter 1:14 and that word was made Flesh. He stood with Meshach, Shadrach, and Abednego in the Furnace Daniel Chapter 3:25. Also if you have seen or known Jesus you know the Father John Chapter 14:7
 
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jeremiah 1:5 before i formed you in the womb i knew you.qouestion did pharoah go to hell for doing what god ordained him to do exodus 9:16?if no then did jeremiah go to heaven for doing what god ordained him to do?if yes thats fd up considering god made these people do what they did, god forced there hand he made the decisions,so really if pharoah went to hell for his actions shouldnt god really go in his place considering its what he chose?and jeremiah shouldnt go to heaven cuz he didnt do anything god did it..does that make sense.
 
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Stockton209SS said:
Yes, John Chapter 1:14 and that word was made Flesh. He stood with Meshach, Shadrach, and Abednego in the Furnace Daniel Chapter 3:25. Also if you have seen or known Jesus you know the Father John Chapter 14:7
but isnt god father of all flesh so then am i not a follower of christ cuz i honour the father,and love him?if god chooses certain people to be christians then why is christianity so predominant in some areas and not in others like the middle east you would think it would be spread almost evenly if predestined.
 
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Stockton209SS said:
How is it fucked up, when God is never wrong? Did Abraham question the Lord, when he asked him to sacrifice Issac?
haha james ch.3 son read it, you defile yourself.no abram or abraham didnt qouestion god but your law giver did MOSES exodus 4:1-15
 
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k-nine said:
but isnt god father of all flesh so then am i not a follower of christ cuz i honour the father,and love him?if god chooses certain people to be christians then why is christianity so predominant in some areas and not in others like the middle east you would think it would be spread almost evenly if predestined.
You can't see the Father or Enter heaven unless you Know Jesus Chrst the Son of God. Who Proceeds with the Father. Simple Answer, free will, and some part of the World have not heard the Gospel, they are aware of the Christians, but not the Teachings of Christ. The World will not end, until all the World knows the Gospel.
 
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Stockton209SS said:
How is it fucked up, when God is never wrong?
tell me does god still create?or did he rest after the 6 day?if god is still creating exspecially in the womb then how do you explain hermaphrodites, and twins born with there heads connected together does god do this on purpose? and if so then for what?if god is still creating like jeremiah said[knitting in the womb]then he is making obvious mistakes.
 
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k-nine said:
haha james ch.3 son read it, you defile yourself.no abram or abraham didnt qouestion god but your law giver did MOSES exodus 4:1-15
Defile Myself, how did you read the last two Verses? So because Moses Questions, and doubts the Lord, that means men are entitled to? That's stupid, who are we to question to Lord, rather yet, think we have a House in Heaven. We are not worthy of his blessing, only by his Grace. But what was the Result of what God told Moses?
 
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k-nine said:
Stockton209SS said:
How is it fucked up, when God is never wrong?
tell me does god still create?or did he rest after the 6 day?if god is still creating exspecially in the womb then how do you explain hermaphrodites, and twins born with there heads connected together does god do this on purpose? and if so then for what?if god is still creating like jeremiah said[knitting in the womb]then he is making obvious mistakes.
You are speakin of James chapter 3:15 which is coming out of YOUR MOUTH. God does not make mistakes, for everything he makes is Perfect, if he decides to make a Siamese Twin, then it's his will, give me a Link to a Hermaphrodite, I am aware of these but give me a Link or something.
 
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Stockton209SS said:
You can't see the Father or Enter heaven unless you Know Jesus Chrst the Son of God. Who Proceeds with the Father. Simple Answer, free will, and some part of the World have not heard the Gospel, they are aware of the Christians, but not the Teachings of Christ. The World will not end, until all the World knows the Gospel.
your reasoning makes no sense first you say predestined then you say free will these are contrary in nature ,complete opposites.predestined implies that your purpose was chosen for you,so weres the free will in that you cant choose your path if god has already chosen it,thats a complete contradiction.like acts 9:7 and acts 22:9 complete opposites.
 
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Stockton209SS said:
k-nine said:
Stockton209SS said:
How is it fucked up, when God is never wrong?

You are speakin of James chapter 3:15 which is coming out of YOUR MOUTH. God does not make mistakes, for everything he makes is Perfect, if he decides to make a Siamese Twin, then it's his will, give me a Link to a Hermaphrodite, I am aware of these but give me a Link or something.
come on dog i have no links for a hermaphrodite are you kidding.google it or somethin
 
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I know what you're talking about in Act 9:7 and 22:5, I had a session in Bible Study, many people will be confused and say it contradicts, and will try to look for the Hebrew words, but remember the New Testament was written in Latin and Greek. What's your point then?
 
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k-nine said:
God does not make mistakes, for everything he makes is Perfect, if he decides to make a Siamese Twin, then it's his will
so really you have no answer but its his will.exactly what i expected for a response
Obviously I have no Superior, or Universal Power or Knowledge. I just accept things as they are, if Lord Willing. That's man's problem, always looking for something that would make God Contradict himselfs, in the Process making them look bad. Look BRA, I aint got all the Answers in my palm or in my head, but I submit to the Lord, and if it be his Will, then it shall be done.
 
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Stockton209SS said:
I know what you're talking about in Act 9:7 and 22:5, I had a session in Bible Study, many people will be confused and say it contradicts, and will try to look for the Hebrew words, but remember the New Testament was written in Latin and Greek. What's your point then?
whats my point either acts is not inspired by god or the entire bible is not inspired by god.remember christ is the word of god he doesnt have imperfection so if there is imperfection in his word then theres imperfection in christ, and if christ is god then god has imperfection.remember theres not 1 contradiction in those 2 verses theres 2.they saw then they didnt,and they heard then they didnt.
 
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Get a Corcordance and Meditate on the Scripture, find root words. Man made a Big Mistake in Translating some text, does that mean the Bible is not God Inspired? Then why do you believe in God, and know who he is? The Bible Right. I'll give you an example, in Revelation it says Satan will be bound in the Bottomless Pit. That was a Western Saying, in the Greek Original Text, bottomless pit was Abusos, meaning Abyss. The abyss John refers to as Satan's abyss, is him not being able to Temp anyone for 1000 years. The Abyss being nothingness. It aggrevates Satan to not be able to Tempt anyone or Make them suffer, and that's his 1000 years of Abyss, nothingness. Mistranslations aren't God fault, it's mans.
 
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have you ever done a timeline of the 4 gospels mathew, luke,mark,and john if you have then you would see the events that take place have no harmony at one point christ will go to a certain location before another location,and in the next gospel they will be in reverse