Has anyone here ATTEMPTED to toss out all they have learned in regards to religion...

[Hemp]

i had this thought a little while back,and i qouestioned myself with this.if i were born in pakistan would i of been a muslim?also if i were born in india would i of been buddihist?i had to answer truthfully and my response was yes, my beliefs would be different if i grew up in a different culture.so how do i really know what truth is ,thats universal truth.i believe in god no doubt,but is any organized religion truth? or is everyones walk with god different therefore everyones belief a different religion?

that is true, if there was truely only one way then to find it will be even harder with the many factors that come with the challenge, such as the one you mentioned, or their being too many different beliefs, or the minds own vulnerability of being close-minded and denying the opportunity for you to understand the other side(being it is the true way), and many more factors.
that is one of the reasons why i dont believe if you fail you will suffer forever and ever.
fail and retry? maybe but not suffer forever for it, when we are all children in life.

 

[Hemp]

@ Korps the Homeboy from the 559, Many man made Doctrines have hurt people both in a Spiritual and Physical sense. Have not many Cults, like the Wako incident, were lead by men and their knowledge, and look what happened! That's the sad thing, people only want to believe their view on things, and if it's anything less to their criteria it's pretty much shit to them.

evil things are done in many beliefs, including christianity.


and as long as you understand that its not about negativity and more about love, you will move on knowing you will never harm anybody or cause any damage in your innocent quest for truth.

 

[2-0-NINE]

evil things are done in many beliefs, including christianity.


and as long as you understand that its not about negativity and more about love, you will move on knowing you will never harm anybody or cause any damage in your innocent quest for truth.

How in Christianity, because of the Crusades, let me tell you that the Catholic Church does not speak on Behalf of all Christians!

 

[Danger Manye]

my religion says to remember the first things i was tought. but i have tried to throw things out but always come back in some sense.

 

[2-0-NINE]

My Bad Heresy, if this ends up becoming a Thread of Debate, I'll pull back b4 it's engaged.

 

[2-0-NINE]

Ok, we're all entitled to our opinions so here's mine, people who have not heard the Gospel, and grew for example in the Middle East would, to me automatically become a Muslim because of his Area. Same goes for a Buddhist, a Jew, and any other religion. But what sticks to me is, when they've heard the Gospel, the Gospel sticks to the Back of their heads, even though their Religion comes First. Even all atheists, you are not born an Atheist, or an Ignostic. I believe that in the back of all these Atheists and Ignostics, that Jesus is real to them, they may not accept him, but they can deny it all they want and that thought will always stick to the back of their minds. It just bothers them to see how us, People of Faith, believe in Something which cannot be seen or heard in the Physical. I have also stated as well, don't Atheists Believe that God Absolutely does not exist, if that was the case, then why do many Atheists spend lot's of time trying to prove Scriptures or God wrong?

 

[EDJ]

^AWW SHIT, YOU OPENED A CAN OF WORMS.

 

[2-0-NINE]

Sorry EDJ and Heresy, I'm gonna leave now haha!

 

[EDJ]

^TOO LATE FOR ALL THAT.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Let us define atheism:
The lack of belief in a god or gods.

you are not born an Atheist

How can this be possible? You’re telling me that babies understand the concept of god?

If, let’s say, a child was born on an island and had absolutely no contact with the outside world, would he grow to know Hey-Zues?

I believe that in the back of all these Atheists and Ignostics, that Jesus is real to them

If Jesus was real to us, why would we not accept it? If the bible is true and nonbelievers will burn in a fiery pit, why would we choose not to follow him?

This is horrible logic. It’s like a Hindu saying all people know that Vishnu is real, but yet they do not accept him.

but they can deny it all they want and that thought will always stick to the back of their minds.

What thought? I’m willing to bet there is a thought in the back of your mind that says maybe you’re wrong.

While my beliefs are based on science and evidence, yours is based solely on passed down stories and faith.

It just bothers them to see how us, People of Faith, believe in Something which cannot be seen or heard in the Physical.

It bothers me knowing that billions of people on this planet believe in unfounded myths.

don't Atheists Believe that God Absolutely does not exist, if that was the case, then why do many Atheists spend lot's of time trying to prove Scriptures or God wrong?

Many reasons: it can be entertaining, thought stimulating, or we could simply like to help educate the rest of the planet, like Abraham Kovoor for example who traveled India exposing “god-men” and other fraudulent religions.
Some of us think religion actually hinders the mind and is bad for humanity.

 

[MataSkonkas]

Hey-Zues?.

DO NOT MOCK NOR MISPRONOUNCE MY NAME....

 

[eMDe]

yes sir i grew up christian but now am atheist

same here. Grandpa is a baptist minister.. mother was a pagan witch turned catholic witch (lol)

but now i find myself looking up at the stars aprretiating the chance to be a part of this incredible universe irreguardless how insignificant my life is to it.:beard:

 

[EDJ]

^LOL @CATHOLIC WITCH.

 

[2-0-NINE]

How can this be possible? You’re telling me that babies understand the concept of god?

If, let’s say, a child was born on an island and had absolutely no contact with the outside world, would he grow to know Hey-Zues?

Well sense you love using science, Scientists believe that babies soak up alot of knowledge, because at that age they soak up more then they do when they're alot older. A Toddler at even the age of 4 can understand the Christian Salvation, it's that simple. As for babies who grew up on an Isolated Island with no way of knowing if their is God, I can't speak on that, FOR ONLY GOD KNOWS.

What thought? I’m willing to bet there is a thought in the back of your mind that says maybe you’re wrong.

While my beliefs are based on science and evidence, yours is based solely on passed down stories and faith.

Nope I stand firm in my beliefs, why because if you're not aware of it, all things that have been predicted in the bible have fallen into place and accordingly so. The Dead Sea Scrolls which all have Old Testament Text, If you read in the Book of 2 Kings Chapter 1 and 3 they speak about the Moabite Stone which was found, google that.

It bothers me knowing that billions of people on this planet believe in unfounded myths.

How once Again, many things in the Bible have been proven, I'm not trying to force my faith on you, but if you question the Authenticity of then bible then I'll share with you some Facts. Jesus was a Documented man, he was Documented by Josephus, sad to say, he did not document his miracles. But still he Acknowledge the Existence of Jesus. Does it seem odd, that you along with a few other atheists are only a few that Deny a supreme Being or God. What makes you think Chrisitanity is a Myth, is it because it makes many of us seem so soft and you don't roll that way?

Many reasons: it can be entertaining, thought stimulating, or we could simply like to help educate the rest of the planet, like Abraham Kovoor for example who traveled India exposing “god-men” and other fraudulent religions.
Some of us think religion actually hinders the mind and is bad for humanity

Well he's exposed those False Religions and their God Men, but you can't expose the Bible, how can you expose the Bible? If God is not real to you, why waste your time then entertaining yourselves and try to storm up a never Ending Arguement about the Existence of God. I'm no Heresy or Troll, people who can murder you when it comes to debates. I'm more of a Person who'll provide scripture, and instead of Interpreting it for you, I'll allow you to read and understand it for yourself. I see you stand strong on your Atheist Belief, so that's why all I can tell you is Scripture. Sorry to Disappoint you, but I'm no Heresy or Troll.

 

[2-0-NINE]

^LOL @CATHOLIC WITCH.

HAHA

 

[eMDe]

^LOL @CATHOLIC WITCH.

haha, for real tho she got a saint for everything. Oh you need to pray to saint "__" and you'll beat your case, dont worry bout going back to jail. Oh you got stabbed pray to "__" for healing, and you wont go to the hospital ever again. You tired of your girlfriend pray to saint"__"

Swear her bible is her new book of spells. Sall good tho works for her

 

[2-0-NINE]

but now i find myself looking up at the stars aprretiating the chance to be a part of this incredible universe irreguardless how insignificant my life is to it.

Nah man, Guaranteed, if you go soul searching for Christ, you'll see you're purpose. EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE is born with a Purpose!

 

[Danger Manye]

EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE is born with a Purpose!

Amen <(my purpose is to say this)

 

[Ender]

I believe in what is Good. I believe that God by whatever religion or science you choose to find God is ultimately defined by love.

I have devoted my life to finding and understanding this. I have learned that you have to be willing to make mistakes and take risks to get a feel for what is good. In other words do somethin different then you normally would if you find yourself stuck in the same repeating cycle instead of continual learning.

Everbody is a teacher of a system that they know and have experienced themselves to be working and true in order to achieve a predetermined outcome or goal. Everybody is also a student of a system, they seek to achieve a certain outcome or goal.

The student can learn from a teacher or teach themselves thru trial and error. The teacher can only teach what they know and have proven to be true.

So what I believe it really comes down to is what are you tryin to accomplish? And what everybody is gonna say is to be happy and at peace.

But what the problem is that we have encountered is what makes me happy may not be the same thing that makes you happy.


What makes this such a problem is, we as man, do not understand what true happiness is.

We all seek to understand one another. As oppressor or brethren. Because thru comminication and understanding of one another we learn how to help or hurt eachother and ourselves.

If everybody you ever ran into your whole life only tried to make you happy and you yourself only tried to make another person happy. Then we would learn how to find Heaven.

On the flipside sometimes lessons that teach you things hurt. So you can use this to confuse or help somebody. Due to physics and the laws that make up our human body if everytime somebody did something that was righteous and you didn't like righteuosness you could cause them pain and mold them into whatever you wanted thus causing man to go astray from his original lesson of what is Love and oppressing his freewill.

If ever there was a time that the world lost it's way because it lost it's good shepards and there was nobody left to teach righteuosness, or if ever there was a time man decided not to seek righteuosness even though man knew it was still out there. Then I believe that God would send help.

What that help would consist of is whatever his children needed. Be it a warrior, a friend, a thief, an enforcer, a god, or a devil. Because He can do anything he wants and all He wants is to teach us what Love is. And he doesn't give up, doesn't falter, doesn't forget us, and will never leave us by ourselves.

Do good goddammit. And if you don't know what that is, mothafuckin seek it. And if you do, teach that shit to people who need to learn it you pussies. =)

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

I do believe in God.. I just think all relgions are all courrpted now. and use the bible to control and take money away from people..

You've been watching too much "Wisdom Keys with Brother Girard". I have grew up in the Protestant church system watching, living with, and knowing pastors, church elders, and the people that make it happen. At least a good 99% of these people invest blood and tears to make their churches happen.

Every pastor I've ever known has had two jobs....even the pastors of large (1500+) churches. In many of these churches breaking even or showing a profit is great but rarely happens, and when it does, 99% of the time it either goes back into the church, or into a bonus for the staff, or paying off someone who is helping out the church.

I knew personally the family of a pastor of a San Francisco church that had over 2000 attendees, and the family lived very modestly, with the pastor sometimes working 6-day weeks aside from preaching on sundays.

Saying "The church is just out to get people's money" is like saying "Greenpeace is just out to get subscribers" "All political campaigns are for-profit events" or "AID organizations are all a scam, and they don't help anyone". Those kind of blanket statements sound cool as some kind of anti-establishment, underground, brotha lynch, siccness.net, fuck the system highschool shit, but they aren't true at all.