Has anyone here ATTEMPTED to toss out all they have learned in regards to religion...
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We all are predestined, in the bible God says he already knew where we'd end up, but we don't. So that means we have no clue of where we're going, Heaven or Hell, so you do your best in Life according to his will, and you'll make it into heaven. Believing in the Life of Christ, that he was the Promised Messiah, he's Lord and God, the Son of God. That his death and Resurrection paid for our sins in full. Preaching his Gospel and having faith in him. People can say Faith alone will get you into heaven, but what is faith if you don't do any good deeds. I think you need both Good Deeds and faith to be in Heaven, but faith is the most important part.
that is what will take over the world i think.
Christ Consciousness, krishna consciousness, whatever, they all had different experiences and paths to enlightment but they are all the same, they all preached how to become "in touch" with God like they did, to their people("The people").
the paths are all explained differently based on location, time period, and experience as a whole.
i dont think its about who you follow or what you follow as long as you do what they all tried to teach which is to love,devote yourself, etc.
say another man shows up who was really kind and did something similar to or as intense as Jesus did, wouldnt he be just like him and all the other divine men?
Christ Consciousness, krishna consciousness, whatever, they all had different experiences and paths to enlightment but they are all the same, they all preached how to become "in touch" with God like they did, to their people("The people").
the paths are all explained differently based on location, time period, and experience as a whole.
i dont think its about who you follow or what you follow as long as you do what they all tried to teach which is to love,devote yourself, etc.
say another man shows up who was really kind and did something similar to or as intense as Jesus did, wouldnt he be just like him and all the other divine men?
No because he wouldn't be able to back up his claims of being a God, only to Hopeless and Ignorant People. Jesus was more than a Man, according to the Bible he was God. But no man will ever reach as many people as Christ did. If you count not only the 2 billion Christians, well that's what they're called, and including Jews and Muslims, he's name appears in the three Biggest Religions in the World. The Christians though believe he's God, Jews and Muslims think he's just a Man of God, but will suffer for teaching the World he was God.
well actually truthful enlightened people do gain godly powers. ive seen it myself in my muslim days with muslims men, read about it everywhere, see it in jesus,krishna,buddha, etc.
even in Autobiography of A Yogi it talks about masters with powers and weird things occuring with them.
look into the DNA structure becomming Crystalline, instead of carborn based.
the mayans had some form of power, same as aztecs. its all over really, its just about how you act and what you become as a soul, not how you create your own reality based on belief systems.
also, those men bend reality by will, they can all have their own understanding of why and how it works, and even if their belief of that is incorrect, they will still be able to be one with the universe and divine.
its about the heart.
but lets say the man i mentioned didnt have godly powers like jesus and didnt claim he was God, what if that man was just a really good guy who loved all like Jesus but worshipped krishna?
will he go to hell for eternity?
You got it. It's not just coincidence.
He may promote the same thing as Jesus, but wouldn't necessarily be equal to him. Nevertheless, I understand what you are trying to say here. One who is sincerely devoted to God deserves all respects. Although, one also has to be careful because there are people who juggle words like "God", "love", "spiritual", etc. when their real aim is to gain followers for themselves. We should keep our eyes open for this sort of "guru" business. Also we should carefully consider what these people are saying and see if they are consistent with the authority they accept.
He may promote the same thing as Jesus, but wouldn't necessarily be equal to him. Nevertheless, I understand what you are trying to say here. One who is sincerely devoted to God deserves all respects. Although, one also has to be careful because there are people who juggle words like "God", "love", "spiritual", etc. when their real aim is to gain followers for themselves. We should keep our eyes open for this sort of "guru" business. Also we should carefully consider what these people are saying and see if they are consistent with the authority they accept.
You already have read the Bible and you are more then Aware of what will Happen. If he rejects him Of course, but also if a Christian gives him a Stupid or False Interpretation I can't blame him. I remember my friend once told a guy, ok man so that's the Bottom line, it's now or never if you don't say yes you're going to hell. That's not how we should teach people, it's if they learned about it, and know what it's about then reject it, then you know what it says According to the Bible.
I see you are familiar with Paramahamsa Yogananda. Have you ever read the Bhagavad-Gita? If so, was it Yogananda's translation or someone else's?
Most Christians say, "Yes."
Also, Jesus was not authoritive on matters concerning God because he could perform miracles. That was NOT Jesus' qualification. Jesus is authoritive because he is a pure devotee of the Lord. Having or not having special powers has nothing to do with it. Jesus could have never healed anyone's sickness, nor raised any dead, nor fed 5,000 people with a few loaves and fish, nor walked on water, nor even resurrected, and he would still be authoritive on the basis that he had absolutely no other motive than to preach love for God. He was never tained by attraction to material riches. He never desired personal gratification from gaining followers. The fact that he did perform miracles was simply icing on the cake.
Most Christians say, "Yes."
Also, Jesus was not authoritive on matters concerning God because he could perform miracles. That was NOT Jesus' qualification. Jesus is authoritive because he is a pure devotee of the Lord. Having or not having special powers has nothing to do with it. Jesus could have never healed anyone's sickness, nor raised any dead, nor fed 5,000 people with a few loaves and fish, nor walked on water, nor even resurrected, and he would still be authoritive on the basis that he had absolutely no other motive than to preach love for God. He was never tained by attraction to material riches. He never desired personal gratification from gaining followers. The fact that he did perform miracles was simply icing on the cake.
true that
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ive never read the bible. i will start soon tho, the few passages i read and asked christians what they mean opposed my interpretation,as i expected.
so i will look deeper into that but i wish somebody would give me a passage or two supporting an eternal hell.
i dont really know where to start, but id like to see if even that is misinterpreted by modern christians.
i havent read it at all but i will. I did read the ones you posted and they were saying the same message, according to a different reality.
yes i know that but im just saying that this is an attribute of all divine men and not just Jesus as God.
ok but to continue, since powers have nothing to do with it, and the authority comes by preaching love for God,then all the good krishna devotee has to do is preach love for the divine.
will this man still burn in hell for eternity? Even tho he was a man of God, and a child in the universe?
yes i know that but im just saying that this is an attribute of all divine men and not just Jesus as God.
ok but to continue, since powers have nothing to do with it, and the authority comes by preaching love for God,then all the good krishna devotee has to do is preach love for the divine.
will this man still burn in hell for eternity? Even tho he was a man of God, and a child in the universe?
^im just lookin at som stuff now, lmao @ the websites translations.
the passage says he will seperate one from another as a sheppard does to his sheep from the goats.
and the site explains it as he will determine who WILL ENTER HIS KINGDOM,the wicked GO TO HELL FOR JUDGMENT.
where the fuck does it say that. it could simply means that he will separate the ones living a life of illusion and confusion from the ones who got it.
i guess thats closer to the truth than what the site states, since the objective of an eternal punishment is morally wrong. To me at least.
the passage says he will seperate one from another as a sheppard does to his sheep from the goats.
and the site explains it as he will determine who WILL ENTER HIS KINGDOM,the wicked GO TO HELL FOR JUDGMENT.
where the fuck does it say that. it could simply means that he will separate the ones living a life of illusion and confusion from the ones who got it.
i guess thats closer to the truth than what the site states, since the objective of an eternal punishment is morally wrong. To me at least.