Has anyone here ATTEMPTED to toss out all they have learned in regards to religion...
- Thread starter HERESY
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First of all, I don't know to what you are referring. Secondly, everyone is comfortable admitting they are wrong so long as they aren't hard set on being right. If the situation is one presenting their understanding and looking to another for verification, the result of being wrong is easily accepted. As soon as it gets into the realm of trying to find fault with others, that is when pride comes into play. I have never seen Heresy admit he was wrong after it gets to that point. If he is dead set on some fault he thinks he has found in another, that is that for him. Let's use a recent example. In our discourse about eternal hell, he jumps to conclusions about my intent. That was the initial fall for him. The rest of his attacks stemmed from that, and many of his accusations went unsubstantiated. It would not be possible for me to admit being wrong if it is not explained exactly how I am wrong. So now instead of explaining any accusations, he just keeps throwing them out. Since I am the one who he accused of "circle talk", I'm assuming he is referring to me regarding "mystical word jugglery". But now he is just too cowardly to say it straight to me. I will explain any and everything that I say. If you come to me and say, "this is word jugglery because such and such," I will consider your points and attempt to clarify my statement. If you come to me and tell me that I am guilty of word jugglery but refuse to explain how, then you have the brain of a child. That's all there is to it.
Neither have I when I argue with the Likes of you. When it comes to Scripture and providing what you wanted to know, I'm not going to admit my mistakes, where people like 206,Nav, Ody Sicc, and Shoowilla have proven me wrong in other areas aside Bible Scriptures, I admit to being wrong. I remember Ody Sicc gave me a Scripture that I misinterpreted, so I admitted I was wrong. You on the other hand, neither admit to anything other than, OH THAT'S THE DIVINE WILL OF KRISTNA or whatever HE/She Demigod is named.
What exactly do you say I am wrong about? Or do you just want me to say I am wrong for humility purposes? I admitted, very clearly in fact, that my understanding of the terms "spirit" and "soul" may be incorrect. That is why I asked people to explain what exactly is a soul and a spirit according to the Bible. I was completely open to new understanding. This was when people were telling me to read a concordance instead of positively contributing to the thread. It was assumed that I had a certain intent. I simply presented what appeared on the surface to be a logical argument. It is Heresy and yourself who add some emotional value to it and proceed with the accusations.
When it comes to Scripture, being that is what I am looking for, I am completely accepting. But what did I say to you? I said that my concern with an eternal hell was not a matter of Scripture. Instead I was concerned with reason. The direct implications an eternal hell has on an eternal loving God is devastating. It is clear to me now that there is not even an attempt to rationalize. It is simply something people like yourself and Heresy accept with no regard to reason. But what are you saying here? Are you saying that I should admit being wrong because you provided me with verses from the Bible when I explicitly told you that I was not looking for verses concerning that point? And are you implying that I was telling you that you are wrong on the basis of Scripture? I NEVER stated or implied that. My basis for argument was reason.
In what instance was I accused of and expected to admit being wrong and instead said something along the lines of, "Oh that's the divine will of Krishna"??? Please show me where I did this. Thanks.
When it comes to Scripture, being that is what I am looking for, I am completely accepting. But what did I say to you? I said that my concern with an eternal hell was not a matter of Scripture. Instead I was concerned with reason. The direct implications an eternal hell has on an eternal loving God is devastating. It is clear to me now that there is not even an attempt to rationalize. It is simply something people like yourself and Heresy accept with no regard to reason. But what are you saying here? Are you saying that I should admit being wrong because you provided me with verses from the Bible when I explicitly told you that I was not looking for verses concerning that point? And are you implying that I was telling you that you are wrong on the basis of Scripture? I NEVER stated or implied that. My basis for argument was reason.
In what instance was I accused of and expected to admit being wrong and instead said something along the lines of, "Oh that's the divine will of Krishna"??? Please show me where I did this. Thanks.
Do you even remember our conversation, everytime I'd let you in on something, you would go back to Hinduism, which had nothing to do with the Conversation. You wanted to under stand from a Biblical Standpoint, yet you would argue with your interpretation and belief, which I didn't understand which. Especially since you needed scripture.
I haven't been reading this, but to answer the first question that Heresy asked...Yes, I have tried to throw out what I think I know. I think I've done a decent job, but I also am setting aside other opinions cause I realize I don't know a lot of things. I mean, I know a decent amount, but in the grand scheme of the universe, NOBODY knows shit.