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HERESY

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@EDJ, I don't talk about other people and their beliefs in PM. What I have to say I say directly HERE or I PM that specific person and speak with them. If I were to post all the pm messages you will see that NO ONE ELSE has popped up and NO OTHER RELIGION has popped up.


The thing is, if he DOES make out points to counter-balance yours you'll probably LEAVE the convo or fail to answer them, and I am speaking from experience. An example of this is when you say to not label you a J.W., but when I ask you to tell us what parts of the J.W. dogmas/doctrines you do NOT believe in or agree with you fail to answer.
 
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Hemp said:
i havent read it at all but i will. I did read the ones you posted and they were saying the same message, according to a different reality.
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The ones that I posted? What are you referring to?

Also, if you are going to pick up a Bhagavad-Gita, go to www.asitis.com and order one for $10. It is hardcover and includes the original Sanskrit text, transliteration, synonyms, full English translation, elaborate purports and color illustrations. Yogananda's Gita is over $40 and he adulterates the text with impersonalist speculation. I previously owed a copy of his did a comparative study.


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yes i know that but im just saying that this is an attribute of all divine men and not just Jesus as God.

ok but to continue, since powers have nothing to do with it, and the authority comes by preaching love for God,then all the good krishna devotee has to do is preach love for the divine.
will this man still burn in hell for eternity? Even tho he was a man of God, and a child in the universe?
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There is no hell for eternity. That is a misconception. Although some Christians hold on to that idea and would say that the Krishna devotees do you to such a hell. Of course, such individuals are not very intelligent.
 
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n9newunsixx5150 said:
The ones that I posted? What are you referring to?

Also, if you are going to pick up a Bhagavad-Gita, go to www.asitis.com and order one for $10. It is hardcover and includes the original Sanskrit text, transliteration, synonyms, full English translation, elaborate purports and color illustrations. Yogananda's Gita is over $40 and he adulterates the text with impersonalist speculation. I previously owed a copy of his did a comparative study.
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Just the random ones in your hare kirishna thread, but thanks alot for the tip on what to get n from where. I will look into that.

n9newunsixx5150 said:
There is no hell for eternity. That is a misconception. Although some Christians hold on to that idea and would say that the Krishna devotees do you to such a hell. Of course, such individuals are not very intelligent.
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good to see im not the only one that finds the idea of an eternal suffering morally wrong and will never be equivalent to any sin or blasphemy any man commits, as many number of times, for the rest of his life.
Like maybe if when all humans were born God showed himself to them and taught them the truth, only then will a concept of an eternal hell seem a tad bit reasonable, but if your whole life is a challenge to seek and find One Way, and if you arent able to do so or convince yourself, then you will suffer for ETERNITY?
we cannot even grasp the idea of anything eternal let alone it be eternal suffering , made especially to make you suffer.
looks more like they usin fear to control the masses , as bush has been doin.

good to see you are on the same page as i am when it comes to this, i aint only one...
peace
 
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HERESY said:
@EDJ, I don't talk about other people and their beliefs in PM. What I have to say I say directly HERE or I PM that specific person and speak with them. If I were to post all the pm messages you will see that NO ONE ELSE has popped up and NO OTHER RELIGION has popped up.


The thing is, if he DOES make out points to counter-balance yours you'll probably LEAVE the convo or fail to answer them, and I am speaking from experience. An example of this is when you say to not label you a J.W., but when I ask you to tell us what parts of the J.W. dogmas/doctrines you do NOT believe in or agree with you fail to answer.
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NOBODY SAID THAT "YOU" DID. BUT YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT IN THE POSTS AND THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO EVERYTIME. AND HE HASN'T COUNTER-BALANCED SHIT. YOU HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO SO AFTER THE FACT THAT I SAID I WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT RELIgION. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ANSWER THAT SHIT. BUT ONE THANg I DISAgREE WITH THE J.W IS THE CONTINUAL USE OF THE MISTRANSLATED VERSION OF THE DIVINE NAME. BUT THAT'S THE CLOSEST PRONUNCIATION TO THEM AND IF YOU gONNA TAKE OUT THE "J" MIgHT AS WELL DO IT FOR "JESUS", "JEREMIAH", AND N-E-OTHA NAME THAT STARTS WITH A LETTER "J". SO THERE YOU HAVE ONE DISAgREEMENT, JUST CAUSE YOU THE HOMIE.

STOCTON,
WE ARE A SELECT FEW. BUT I NOTICED HOW YOUR ATTITUDE SWITCHED UP TOWARDS ME AFTER HERESY MENTIONED MY "BASED ROOTS" OF BELIEF, LIKE THAT SUPPOSE TO CHANgE N-E-THANg.
 
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EDJ said:
NOBODY SAID THAT "YOU" DID. BUT YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT IN THE POSTS AND THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO EVERYTIME. AND HE HASN'T COUNTER-BALANCED SHIT. YOU HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO SO AFTER THE FACT THAT I SAID I WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT RELIgION. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ANSWER THAT SHIT. BUT ONE THANg I DISAgREE WITH THE J.W IS THE CONTINUAL USE OF THE MISTRANSLATED VERSION OF THE DIVINE NAME. BUT THAT'S THE CLOSEST PRONUNCIATION TO THEM AND IF YOU gONNA TAKE OUT THE "J" MIgHT AS WELL DO IT FOR "JESUS", "JEREMIAH", AND N-E-OTHA NAME THAT STARTS WITH A LETTER "J". SO THERE YOU HAVE ONE DISAgREEMENT, JUST CAUSE YOU THE HOMIE.

STOCTON,
WE ARE A SELECT FEW. BUT I NOTICED HOW YOUR ATTITUDE SWITCHED UP TOWARDS ME AFTER HERESY MENTIONED MY "BASED ROOTS" OF BELIEF, LIKE THAT SUPPOSE TO CHANgE N-E-THANg.
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How has my Attitude been Toward you EDJ, aside from our disagreements about Jesus, It's been cool for a while, I don't even know what you're talking about?
 
HERESY

HERESY

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"There is no hell for eternity. That is a misconception. Although some Christians hold on to that idea and would say that the Krishna devotees do you to such a hell. Of course, such individuals are not very intelligent."

The part in bold is your perspective/opinion. The part in italics is a personal insult. I guess the gloves are coming off now.
 
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EDJ said:
NOBODY SAID THAT "YOU" DID. BUT YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT IN THE POSTS AND THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO EVERYTIME. AND HE HASN'T COUNTER-BALANCED SHIT. YOU HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO SO AFTER THE FACT THAT I SAID I WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT RELIgION. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ANSWER THAT SHIT. BUT ONE THANg I DISAgREE WITH THE J.W IS THE CONTINUAL USE OF THE MISTRANSLATED VERSION OF THE DIVINE NAME. BUT THAT'S THE CLOSEST PRONUNCIATION TO THEM AND IF YOU gONNA TAKE OUT THE "J" MIgHT AS WELL DO IT FOR "JESUS", "JEREMIAH", AND N-E-OTHA NAME THAT STARTS WITH A LETTER "J". SO THERE YOU HAVE ONE DISAgREEMENT, JUST CAUSE YOU THE HOMIE.
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This the best you can do?
 
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HERESY said:
"There is no hell for eternity. That is a misconception. Although some Christians hold on to that idea and would say that the Krishna devotees do you to such a hell. Of course, such individuals are not very intelligent."

The part in bold is your perspective/opinion. The part in italics is a personal insult. I guess the gloves are coming off now.
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Don't worry. You're not the person you think you are. We'll bury those gloves with their owner, the material body.
 
HERESY

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n9newunsixx5150 said:
Don't worry. You're not the person you think you are. We'll bury those gloves with their owner, the material body.
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"If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."
 
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HERESY said:
"If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."
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Are you implying that the above states that spirit comes into being because of the material body? Because it doesn't.
 
HERESY

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n9newunsixx5150 said:
Heresy is insulted because I said that Christians who believe Krishna devotees will go to hell are not very intelligent.
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Not true. I simply see no use in continuing to be respectful of your views or respectful when it comes to people who believe in a similar way as you. I can have this perspective and be very nonchalant. Basically, if these are the rules you wish to play by and the only thing you comprehend we'll play by your rules.
 
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