For anyone who thinks Native Americans are worse off than African Americans.....

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Dirty Shoez

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http://www.policyalmanac.org/social_welfare/homeless.shtml


On any given night in America, anywhere from 700,000 to 2 million people are homeless, according to estimates of the National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty.

According to a December, 2000 report of the US Conference of Mayors:

* single men comprise 44 percent of the homeless, single women 13 percent, families with children 36 percent, and unaccompanied minors seven percent.
* the homeless population is about 50 percent African-American, 35 percent white, 12 percent Hispanic, 2 percent Native American and 1 percent Asian.



For reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas -- Roughly 1.5% of the population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American
-- Roughly 12.3% of the population.


Statistics = F-U-N.
 
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Hmm, maybe because the total population of Native Americans is a whole lot less than African Americans? Just a wild guess.

Indigenous peoples in what is now the United States are commonly called "American Indians" but more recently have been referred to as "Native Americans". Such people make up 1.4% of the population, with 4.1 million people identifying themselves as Native Americans. A substantial proportion of US Native Americans live on Indian reservations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas#United_States
 
Dirty Shoez

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2-0-Sixx said:
Hmm, maybe because the total population of Native Americans is a whole lot less than African Americans? Just a wild guess.

Indigenous peoples in what is now the United States are commonly called "American Indians" but more recently have been referred to as "Native Americans". Such people make up 1.4% of the population, with 4.1 million people identifying themselves as Native Americans. A substantial proportion of US Native Americans live on Indian reservations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas#United_States
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For reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas -- Roughly 1.5% of the population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American
-- Roughly 12.3% of the population.
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I guess that wasn't clear enough. Let's try it this way:

Native Americans, 1.5% of the population...2% of the homeless population. -- African-Americans, 12.3% of the population...50% of the homeless population.

4x as much homelessness among African-Americans, in proportion to the percentage of the population that they represent. The numbers are not even close.


The next time this dumbass "Native Americans have it worse than African-Americans" argument comes up (as Liberal as this board is, it won't be long), this is the first stat i'm going to throw back up.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
Native Americans, 1.5% of the population...2% of the homeless population. -- African-Americans, 12.3% of the population...50% of the homeless population.

4x as much homelessness among African-Americans, in proportion to the percentage of the population that they represent. The numbers are not even close.
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That still doesn’t indicate that blacks have it worse. Higher homeless percentage, yes, worse in general I'm not sure. The simple fact that Native Americans are only ~1.5% of the population says a ton, considering this was their land and the majority were killed off. And as MEXICANCOMMANDO pointed out, most of them aren't even 100% native anymore, a mixture of white and other races. They are nearly extinct.

There are other factors involved as well such as average income, life expectancy, infant mortality rate, etc. None of which I know off the top of my head, nor do I really care to look up since I am missing the point of this thread. Both have it bad and strong cases can be made for each side on who has it worse, but what’s the point?
 
Mr. Nice Guy

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Dirty Shoez said:
and 1 percent Asian.
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I think the real point of this thread is what is the Asians secret. I have never seen an Asian bum, kinda strange...


And another set of numbers to think about DS

Percent of Native American Population 1600 aprox 99%
Percent of Black Populaton 1600 aprox 1%

now

Percent of Native American Population 2005 aprox 1.5%
Percent of African American Population 2005 aprox 12.3%

Native American population has been desimated over the years. On the other hand, even with their horrendous past in America, African Americans have been able to expand. I think that in itself is an indication of how hard Native Americans have had it.
 
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Mr. Nice Guy said:
I think the real point of this thread is what is the Asians secret. I have never seen an Asian bum, kinda strange...


And another set of numbers to think about DS

Percent of Native American Population 1600 aprox 99%
Percent of Black Populaton 1600 aprox 1%

now

Percent of Native American Population 2005 aprox 1.5%
Percent of African American Population 2005 aprox 12.3%

Native American population has been desimated over the years. On the other hand, even with their horrendous past in America, African Americans have been able to expand. I think that in itself is an indication of how hard Native Americans have had it.
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They are surely numbers to think about. This much cannot be argued. But we must also remember that they had this country rather empty. The world itself was largely [relatively] empty prior to the turn of the century (1900), and way back in 1600...even more so. Then came the major population boom that saw the world population double and triple and even more than that. Until 1927, there were only 2 billion on the planet. Now we are approaching 7 billion.

As far as right now goes--how much they are reproducing and their ability to up their percentage share does not really matter. What matters is the ability to create and sustain a family. And in terms of who has the main thing you need to hold together a family--housing--Natives have more of them. It is their fault if they choose not to have children, or if they don't in turn use that excess of income resulting from not having children towards their own economic advantage.


The main point of this thread was simply to inform. This is a common misconception, and frankly, I'm sick of hearing it. How many times constitutes "sick of", you might ask? One would be plenty.



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I have yet to meet a rich indian.


I don't see how the percentage of homeless people that one race has it harder than another. I don't see why it even matter eithers. If anything it shows that American Indians know how to take care of themselves better.
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Food, Shelter, Clothing, sir. They are necessities, and in our country where Food and Clothing are generally cheap (in many cases, free), Shelter almost always costs money.

If Natives are better able to obtain Housing than Blacks, it goes without saying that they are better off. At a 4x clip, they are exponentially better off.
 
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it seems to me like blacks and whites are more likley to turn turn their backs on their family members
while mexicans and asians would more likley take in a family member with no where to go IMO
 
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wait wait wait so your gunna say that BLACKS have it WORSE then NATIVE AMERICANS? HAHAHA ok well i dont know how u could ever determine that on a scale but.....im pretty sure because theres more homeless blacks then native americans DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE WORSE OFF.....LMAO


maybe u forget who the fuck was in this country before the white man came and killed innocent native families and forced them into certian parts of the country ( that parts that nobody fucking wanted because the land is worthless) then killed the rest of them.....well if u havnt guessed, ITS THE NATIVE AMERICANS. Therfore your stupid fucking homeless statistics dont mean shit and you're ( in my opinion ) WRONG. bad thread.
 
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you tell me whats worse......

being homeless

or

having your homeland which u have lived on for generations peacefully, be invaded and taken over, meanwhile raping and killing your families untill being nearly totally wiped out then segregated into the shittiest parts of the country, to where now (according to your statistic) Native Americans went from 100% of the population to 1.5%


once again 100%-1.5% do the math.
 
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A reservation is the only places they have left to Reserve they're own rights......as they had before they were TAKEN OUT. they can basically do anything they want on the "Res" and no level of law can touch them no matter what because thats the great contract deal they got....u get to live in a few of the shittiest places in this country but u can live by your law since we kinda killed all of you;re ppl and stole your land.....no no dont thanks us....


if a drunk driver is being chased and makes it to the reservation....the cops cannot follow him in..basically is a safe haven
 
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^ARE YOU NATIVE? LATELY I DONE MADE FRIENDS WITH A FEW NATIVES(DIFFERENT TRIBES) AND A LOT OF THEM ARE REgULAR FOLK. ATLEAST THEY HAVE THEY OWN LAND. HELL, SOME OF THEM OWN CASINOS AND BE PIMPIN' FOO'S. BLAK MAN BE LUKY IF HE OWN N-E-THANg. WHILE YOU SPEAK AND MAKE UNJUST COMPARISONS, YOU FORgOT TO INCLUDE RAPE, gENOCIDE, ENSLAVEMENT, JIM CROW, WILLIE LYNCH, SEgREgATION, PERCEPTION OF SOCIETY, CIVIL RIgHTS, COINTELPRO, AND OTHA SHIT.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
http://www.policyalmanac.org/social_welfare/homeless.shtml


On any given night in America, anywhere from 700,000 to 2 million people are homeless, according to estimates of the National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty.

According to a December, 2000 report of the US Conference of Mayors:

* single men comprise 44 percent of the homeless, single women 13 percent, families with children 36 percent, and unaccompanied minors seven percent.
* the homeless population is about 50 percent African-American, 35 percent white, 12 percent Hispanic, 2 percent Native American and 1 percent Asian.



For reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas -- Roughly 1.5% of the population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American
-- Roughly 12.3% of the population.


Statistics = F-U-N.
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well they aint homeless cause we kick um off to the land we dont want and make um pay next to nothing for it, if there were reservations for blacks they'd prolly have a low homeless rate too man, any race would have lower homlessness if they had reservations
 
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