Floyd Mayweather vs Sugar Shane Mosley [May 1st]
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he was outboxed by a offensive minded fighter slightly...landing the same amount of punches throughout the fight doesn't constitute being "outboxed" really in my eyes.
floyd is nowhere near the offensive fighter cotto is...not to mention his power is lacking compared to cotto's. floyd was busting up marquez pretty damn well and could only manage a knockdown with juan being off balance. the fighters floyd has been in the ring fail in comparison to the types mosley has seen. shane is not worried about floyds power. come saturday night you'll see for yourself.
floyd is nowhere near the offensive fighter cotto is...not to mention his power is lacking compared to cotto's. floyd was busting up marquez pretty damn well and could only manage a knockdown with juan being off balance. the fighters floyd has been in the ring fail in comparison to the types mosley has seen. shane is not worried about floyds power. come saturday night you'll see for yourself.
It was a very close fight but shane was out-boxed when it counted the most - the later rounds, even when cotto was hurt. And that's uncharacteristic of Shane since he usually finishes strong. So to me, that's a clear sign of shane aging and not being the same old shane.
And you stated that mosley since being with Richardson reminds you so much of the 135 pound mosley, well how can you really tell if he's only had one fight? That was against margarito, a guy who was standing in front of mosley the entire fight and a guy who could not get out of the way of shane's right hand for the life of him. It was the perfect scenario for shane - guy who's not going to be moving around and a guy with piss poor defense. That's why I think that fight is a bit of an illusion. Against a guy with footwork, speed, a guy who can punch going backwards or side to side and a guy with great defense and countering abilities, it's going to be a completely different fight.
And you stated that mosley since being with Richardson reminds you so much of the 135 pound mosley, well how can you really tell if he's only had one fight? That was against margarito, a guy who was standing in front of mosley the entire fight and a guy who could not get out of the way of shane's right hand for the life of him. It was the perfect scenario for shane - guy who's not going to be moving around and a guy with piss poor defense. That's why I think that fight is a bit of an illusion. Against a guy with footwork, speed, a guy who can punch going backwards or side to side and a guy with great defense and countering abilities, it's going to be a completely different fight.
I watched both of their last fights last night....
206 you're right. I think Mosely's age is starting to show. He looked like he started getting gassed around the 6th or 7th round and Margarito was standing right in front of him and not moving at all (so he had an easy target). And like you said before he hasn't fought since Jan of 2009. That's a long lay off for an aging fighter. I think it may show in this fight.
Floyd does throw one punch at a time but it's a fast one punch and he gets out of the way so he doesn't get counter punched. He gets you to keep thinking he's going to throw just one punch and then he'll fire off a two punch combo.
Floyd is too slick for Shane especially at this age. Shane is a beast and he'll beat you if you stand there toe to toe and try to exchange punches with him but Floyd won't do that.
I think this a good challenge for Floyd but I don't think this fight will be that close as I thought before.
Floyd 8 rounds to 4.
206 you're right. I think Mosely's age is starting to show. He looked like he started getting gassed around the 6th or 7th round and Margarito was standing right in front of him and not moving at all (so he had an easy target). And like you said before he hasn't fought since Jan of 2009. That's a long lay off for an aging fighter. I think it may show in this fight.
Floyd does throw one punch at a time but it's a fast one punch and he gets out of the way so he doesn't get counter punched. He gets you to keep thinking he's going to throw just one punch and then he'll fire off a two punch combo.
Floyd is too slick for Shane especially at this age. Shane is a beast and he'll beat you if you stand there toe to toe and try to exchange punches with him but Floyd won't do that.
I think this a good challenge for Floyd but I don't think this fight will be that close as I thought before.
Floyd 8 rounds to 4.
That's true.
It's not in shane's character to do this, but he should have went on a huge campaign saying floyd is too much of a pussy and not man enough to fight toe to toe and that floyd knows if he fights toe to toe he would get ko'd. He should have said this over and over and over again to everyone he talks to. People would tell floyd that, everytime he gets interviewed they'd repeat those words, etc. Shane could have taken a page from Roburto Duran when he did exactly that leading up to the first Sugar Ray Leonard fight, a fight that Leonard as a result fought mostly toe to toe and lost because of it.
I mean, mind games might not work on floyd but it's worth a shot. He could have gotten in his head a little bit and maybe floyd would have been more willing to engage to prove to the world he aint no bitch.
Too late for that though, shane's too nice.
It's not in shane's character to do this, but he should have went on a huge campaign saying floyd is too much of a pussy and not man enough to fight toe to toe and that floyd knows if he fights toe to toe he would get ko'd. He should have said this over and over and over again to everyone he talks to. People would tell floyd that, everytime he gets interviewed they'd repeat those words, etc. Shane could have taken a page from Roburto Duran when he did exactly that leading up to the first Sugar Ray Leonard fight, a fight that Leonard as a result fought mostly toe to toe and lost because of it.
I mean, mind games might not work on floyd but it's worth a shot. He could have gotten in his head a little bit and maybe floyd would have been more willing to engage to prove to the world he aint no bitch.
Too late for that though, shane's too nice.
like i've stated already...i've been a mosley fan ever since his days on basic cable. i have a pretty good idea on his abilities as a fighter. you naysayers aren't giving any credit to the fact that his father is no longer training him. even if it was only a 1 fight sample size against a iron jawed margarito that always came forward, he still busted em up more then anyone else could. shane isn't the same fighter as he was the last few years of his time with his dad training him. now he has a trainer that is just as knee deep into this fight game as he is and it has rejuvenated the man more then any of you doubters will ever know. this dude isn't finished at all.
majority of floyds fights can also be considered illusions too ya know...how do you think he got so accurate? majority of his opponents were bums and he picked and chose who he wanted to go against...guys he knew he could have his way with. not to mention his one punch and get out of the way style...doing this will make you "accurate". he won't beable to have his way with shane like everyone so foolishly believes for some reason. dude is finally stepping into the ring with a real deal fighter, not some washed up or smaller dude floyd can toy around with.
Shane is 120% about boxing while PBF is 120% about $$$. Sugar isn't worried about this cat one bit.
Floyd is all talk, and his talking is going to finally bite him in the ass in this fight....you'll see.
majority of floyds fights can also be considered illusions too ya know...how do you think he got so accurate? majority of his opponents were bums and he picked and chose who he wanted to go against...guys he knew he could have his way with. not to mention his one punch and get out of the way style...doing this will make you "accurate". he won't beable to have his way with shane like everyone so foolishly believes for some reason. dude is finally stepping into the ring with a real deal fighter, not some washed up or smaller dude floyd can toy around with.
Shane is 120% about boxing while PBF is 120% about $$$. Sugar isn't worried about this cat one bit.
Floyd is all talk, and his talking is going to finally bite him in the ass in this fight....you'll see.
I'm not of the idea that Mosley has absolutely no chance even though I think the fight plays out for Mayweather with ease. I like Mosley I give serious credit to a guy who can make it back to the top of sport years after he was though to be dropped out of it .. I just don't see him pulling this one out.
.. and having someone tired and hurt picking you off off his back foot does constitute as being outboxed. He wasn't outboxed by Cotto throughout the whole fight but he certainly was outboxed by Cotto when it mattered.
.. and having someone tired and hurt picking you off off his back foot does constitute as being outboxed. He wasn't outboxed by Cotto throughout the whole fight but he certainly was outboxed by Cotto when it mattered.
if he does win, it won't be because he actually whooped Shane's ass or anything. it will be because he resorts to what he knows best and that is...hitting and running. if he didn't talk so much shit like he does, it wouldn't bother me at all. but he talks as if he lays motherfuckers down like it ain't shit...when in reality that is the farthest from the truth.
who has he actually fought that was legitimately worth a shit? can you name a fighter that wasn't smaller, slower, or just plain washed up at the time of the fight? he hasn't proven shit to me yet. if he whoops up shane and then pac, then ofcourse i'll give him his just due. i won't say hes the best ever or anything though, the best ever in my eyes is the guy that goes heads up with the best nomatter what and actually beats them up. and that in a nutshell will never be Mayweather.
who has he actually fought that was legitimately worth a shit? can you name a fighter that wasn't smaller, slower, or just plain washed up at the time of the fight? he hasn't proven shit to me yet. if he whoops up shane and then pac, then ofcourse i'll give him his just due. i won't say hes the best ever or anything though, the best ever in my eyes is the guy that goes heads up with the best nomatter what and actually beats them up. and that in a nutshell will never be Mayweather.
Where in my post did I make a comparison? I'll wait ..
You said landing the same amount of punches throughout a fight doesn't constitute being outboxed and if you're just looking at compubox records you could be right but that's not how that fight played out. Mosley WAS outboxed throughout the late rounds when he was running around the ring trying to end Cotto's night.
You said landing the same amount of punches throughout a fight doesn't constitute being outboxed and if you're just looking at compubox records you could be right but that's not how that fight played out. Mosley WAS outboxed throughout the late rounds when he was running around the ring trying to end Cotto's night.