Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Juan Manuel Marquez in the Works for July 18th

[2-0-Sixx]

this is going to be the best fighter floyd has ever faced, there are only a few fighters out there on his level right now dude is going to knock the ring rust right off em. Diaz was a fast fighter with great combos and a never say die attitude but he didn't have shit for power either...just like Floyd...only difference is just like you said....his defense is tip top.

There is another big difference you're missing: Marquez fights at 135 (actually only fight ONCE 135), Floyd fights at 147. They will meet somewhere around 143-144. Marquez will have to east just to make weight whereas Floyd will only have to shed a couple pounds. Floyd will be the bigger and yes, stronger man in the ring. Not to mention Floyd's reach is a lot longer that Marquez.

Floyd is going to be fighting for his pride in this fight and i think the pride is going to get him in trouble

Floyd doesn't fight for pride he fights for money!! This is a very calculated fight for Mayweather, he is taking it only because Marquez is Pacquioa's rival and two, he's the smaller man. This is to set up a super fight with Pacman.

Marquez is not the fighter he wants to run into coming out of "retirement". He better have been lifting those weights getting stronger or else he is in for the fight of his life.

Floyd's power will be felt not too mention his speed and defense is something marquez has never seen. Look, if Diaz ROCKED Marquez several times and had him stunned and was seen as the bigger, stronger guy, what do you think a 147-150 pound Floyd Mayweather will do?? I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd stops Marquez late. Floyd's power is actually underrated. He was knocking everyone out in the lower weight classes , the only reason that didn't continue is because as he moved up in weight he was fighting much bigger guys. But look what happens when he fights smaller guys...they all get KO'd.

 

[MOREBASS]

Yes, this is definitely a smart move by Floyd.

Even though Marquez is the second best pound for pound fighter in the world today, the key word there is pound for pound.

Floyd is simply too big,fast, strong and good for Marquez.


I would pick Floyd by stoppage in the 10th round.

 

[ArGenTin3]

you both bring up great points in your arguments...i just don't see Floyd coming out of retirement like that and going straight into the ring with Marquez is what Im saying though. He isn't going to be sharp and he is either going to come out with his "pride" on his shoulder and go heads up with him..which i doubt or he is just going to stick and move and be typical PBF. I just believe his "pride" is going to get the best of em and hes going to make mistakes and he will pay for them in the later rounds. Marquez is no pushover, dude knows how to box and he knows how to box well. You guys think Marquez won't step his game up on this fight? I mean he did call Mayweather out and got his attention, he was the p4p champ before retirement, you know hes going to be ready to dethrone arguably the best fighter of his generation. Don't discount him yet ya'll.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

.i just don't see Floyd coming out of retirement like that and going straight into the ring with Marquez is what Im saying though. He isn't going to be sharp

There is no way of knowing if he will be sharp or not. I personally believe he will be fine because he's stayed in shape this entire layoff and there have always been reports of him training in his boxing gym during this layoff period. Plus, he's been in boxing shape for some time now and sparring for months.

Besides, what Floyd is doing isn't unheard of. There was an even more impressive out of retirement fight: Sugar Ray Leonard was retired for THREE YEARS and moved UP in weight to fight the #1 guy and greatest middleweight champ of all time in Marvin Hagler. Leonard was a huge underdog, people seriously feared for his life. And he came out sharp as fuck and put on one the greatest performances/upsets in boxing history.

Now, years later we learned that Leonard had a few "behind closed door" fights leading up to the match with Hagler, meaning he fought a few full 12 round real fights off the record to tune himself up. We don't know if Floyd hasn't been doing the same.

Regardless, Floyd has always had the reputation of being one of the best physically fit fighters of the modern era and hardest workers in the game, he is notorious for his insane work outs....he has always kept himself in absolute tip top shape. He's workout regiments are probably only rivaled by that of Bernard Hopkins.

and he is either going to come out with his "pride" on his shoulder and go heads up with him..which i doubt or he is just going to stick and move and be typical PBF.

Floyd isn't going to go toe-to-toe. He's going to box JMM (and probably box the shit out of him) and he will box inside when necessary. Floyd is a good inside fighter when he has to be.

I just believe his "pride" is going to get the best of em and hes going to make mistakes and he will pay for them in the later rounds.

No way, Floyd honestly doesn't care if he stinks up the joint and the entire crowd is booing, which they often do. Think of his fight against Baldimir. lol, everyone was booing him because he pot-shotted Baldy for the entire 12 rounds, it was a snooze fest. Floyd didn't care, all he cares about is winning and collection the $$$ when it's all said in done. In fact, I think Floyd enjoys the crowds booing him, he's always played "the bad" guy role, he eats that shit up. He's never been one to play to the crowd or try to excite them, he simply doesn't care.

Marquez is no pushover, dude knows how to box and he knows how to box well. You guys think Marquez won't step his game up on this fight? I mean he did call Mayweather out and got his attention, he was the p4p champ before retirement, you know hes going to be ready to dethrone arguably the best fighter of his generation. Don't discount him yet ya'll.

Listen, if it weren't for one knock down, I would have Marquez pound 4 pound #1 right now. The guy is a certified beast and he isn't a pushover. But the facts are facts: Floyd has a size advantage, reach advantage, strength advantage, SPEED advantage, defensive advantage, better chin advantage, etc. Like I said earlier, Floyd can do everything marquez can do plus everything marquez cannot do. Floyd is simply the overall better fighter, in ever single category.

The only thing you got really is floyd has been inactive for 2 years. While thats a good point, for all the reasons mentioned above, I just don't see that being a factor. Plus, Floyd is a very special kind of athlete/fighter. There is a reason why he was pound 4 pound #1 and a reason why he's won belts in 5-6 weight classes and is undefeated.

I'm not some Floyd nutthugger either, he pisses me off most of the time, but I cannot deny the man's skills nor can I deny the fact he's the best fighter since a prime Roy Jones (he doesn't however have the best RESUME of active fighters though).

 

[MOREBASS]

In my opinion, it would take a true welterweight, someone with a vicious body attack and someone who could cut off the ring well, and negate Floyd's speed to beat him (see the first Castillo-Mayweather Jr fight)

Marquez is a great boxer, but as we all saw in his fight with Diaz, he has a tendency to follow his guy around rather than use the ring to cut him off.

This, in my opinion, will result in Marquez getting countered all day, and possibly dropped a few times in the process. Floyd isn't a very big puncher, but a lot of the times its those quick, well timed shots while you're off balance that have the most effect. (See the Ricky Hatton knockout)

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Ya but Hatton has never really had a iron chin. The first fight I watched of his was Eaton Magee (sp?) and he got dropped in the first round. I think Floyd's A game will beat anyone else's A game. Just have to hope Floyd doesn't bring his best in order for Marquez to win...

Damn Spadafora...he would of handled it so we wouldnt even be talking about this...

 

[saladbowlking]

MARQUEZ ONLY GETS STRONGER AS THE FIGHT GOES ON SO A STOPPAGE PAST THE 6TH I DONT SEE...IF FLOYD CATCHES HIM EARLY, HE FINISHES HIM EARLY...I WOULDNT DOUBT IT IF THE FIGHT DOESNT GO PAST 5...

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Mayweather vs. Marquez is Close To a Done Deal

By Rick Reeno

BoxingScene.com was advised, by two sources who are close to the situation, that a deal has been reached for Floyd Mayweather Jr. to fight Juan Manuel Marquez. The proposed date [unless there is some change] is July 18 on HBO pay-per-view. The two sides have been negotiating for several weeks and the biggest roadblock was the catch-weight. The exact weight was not disclosed to me, but from I understand the two sides agreed on a weight below 145-pounds.

Mayweather has not fought since a ten round knockout of Ricky Hatton in December 2007. Marquez, considered by many as the number-two pound-for-pound fighter in the world, would rise up from the lightweight division to take the fight.

I don't want to say the "fight is 100% done" because only Marquez has signed off. Mayweather has yet to do so - or at least as I'm writing this. I've been told that Mayweather expected to sign off on the fight and an official announcement will happen in the next few days.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

They arent going to say antying until Pac wins this weekend. If he loses, the PBF vs Marquez fight would be a little pointless...

In the eyes of money...

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Read on fightnews that Marquez isn't fighting until September.

 

[T-Rip]

I cant believe the poll is even, how many biased votes are there lol?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I cant believe the poll is even, how many biased votes are there lol?

Im gonna go out on a limb and say the majority of those who picked Marquez to win are Mexican. lol

 

[MOREBASS]

Pacquiao - according to Winky Wright, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Lennox Lewis

 

[REdRUM]

Floyd's ''best'' (or A-game) will beat Marquez. IF he brings that. I voted for Marquez, because, IMO, anything less than his (Floyd's) best makes the fight that much more closer. Marquez is my favorite fighter; of course I have to vote for him, but I'm not doing it blindly. I think he can beat Floyd...just depends on which Marquez shows up, also.

Marquez isn't getting knocked out early, btw.

Dummies.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

so it's official. Catch weight of 144 announced by ESPN.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Money Mayweather Officially Back. Marquez Fight On!

By Mark Vester

It is official. Moments ago at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, announced that Floyd Mayweather Jr. was coming out of retirement to fight Juan Manuel Marquez on July 18, on HBO pay-per-view, at the MGM Grand. Mayweather fights for the first time since knocking out Ricky Hatton back in December 2007.

The fight took several weeks of back and forth negotiations to make. The money involved was not the big issue. Both fighters argued over the weight. Mayweather, during the early talks, wanted the fight to take place at 147-pounds. Marquez, who holds multiple titles at 135-pounds, wanted the fight to take place at 143 at most. After a few weeks, Mayweather budged a bit and was willing to drop to 145. Marquez still felt the weight was too heavy. After some more talks, the two pulled together and agreed on 143.

After the Hatton win, Mayweather was going to have a rematch with Oscar De La Hoya. The talks were serious and De La Hoya even fought Steve Forbes last May as a tuneup for Floyd. The rematch fell apart after Mayweather unexpectedly announced his retirement from the sport. According to insiders, Mayweather was upset with the amount of money De La Hoya was going to receive for the second fight. Based on winning the first fight, and the success of the promotion, Mayweather felt the split for the second bout should have been a lot closer and not one-sided in De La Hoya's favor.

For years Marquez has been sitting in the shadows of his Mexican countrymen, Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera. Since 2004, when Marquez fought to a controversial draw with Manny Pacquiao, his legacy has been growing. He was always perceived as the "number three" of the bunch but now many experts are re-evaluating that status, and some are actually pushing him above Barrera and/or Morales. A win over Mayweather would send him well above the pack.

Regarded as the number-two pound-for-pound fighter in the sport, Marquez will take part in a fight that is arguably larger and sure to receive more hype than any fight that Barrera or Morales ever took part in. The media frenzy, HBO's 24/7 and numerous pre-fight promotions will probably make Marquez more of a household name, among the casual fans, than Morales or Barrera.

Many see the Marquez bout as an easy fight for Floyd, while others do not. Mayweather could be making a De La Hoya mistake by moving down to a weight where he hasn't seen since the win over Arturo Gatti in 2005. De La Hoya's fight with Pacquiao proved how a few pounds can make a complete difference. Oscar seemed somewhat fine for the fight with Forbes, at 150. He was completely dead for the fight with Pacquiao, held at 147. Oscar did weigh-in at 145 and the weight had a much further stretch than the Mayweather scenario. Oscar had not been below 146 since 1997.

The lingering points are still there. Mayweather is coming off a long layoff. He's been weighing in at 146 to 150 since the fight with Gatti - and nobody knows how those factors may come into play. Maybe they won't matter or maybe the fight will be a lot closer because of them. Remember that prior to Pacquiao's fight with De La Hoya, the bout was viewed as such as mismatch that fans, boxers and people in the industry were protesting to the Las Vegas Athletic Commission to stop the fight. This fight, while not viewed as a mismatch, is viewed by most as a sure Mayweather win.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

I'm there.

 

[rylor206]

Funny part is Mayweather saying that a good big man beats a good little man looks pretty funny when he is maybe a inch taller than Marquez. Oh i cant wait for this one i gotta take my boy Marquez via late round TKO.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^Mayweather is around 2" taller, maybe a tad less, has about a 5" reach advantage and most importantly mayweather fights at 147, marquez fights at 135. So yeah, mayweather is the bigger guy. And I would be absolutely shocked if mayweather lost. In fact, the only way mayweather loses this fight is if he is so ring rusty and completely forget how to box becauze marquez is one of those guys that is easy to hit, will be right in front of you and doesn't have that great of speed or power. However his strengths are his great counter punching and timing, so it wont be a shut out. But it should be a semi-easy fight for Floyd if he is anything of what he was.

 

[rylor206]

Floyd Mayweather Sr says it's time for Hatton to quit• 'Sometimes you have to go when your prime is still there'
• Carl Froch joins calls for Hatton to hang up his gloves
Digg it guardian.co.uk, Sunday 3 May 2009 09.47 BST
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Ricky Hatton lies on the canvas after being knocked out by Filipino Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas. Photograph: Gabriel Bouys/AFP/Getty Images

Ricky Hatton's trainer, Floyd Mayweather Sr, believes the Manchester boxer should retire after his devastating loss to Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas. Hatton was knocked out in the second round of his IBO light-welterweight title bout with the man considered to be the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. It was the second defeat in Hatton's career, having also been beaten by Floyd Mayweather Jnr in 2007.

His trainer told Sky Sports: "I would suggest he retire. At the end of the day it's his decision. He tried twice. He failed twice. He lost to my son and to lose to someone below that, it's time to leave the ring. He made a good profit. Sometimes you have to go when your prime is still there."

The build-up to the bout was marred by rumours of a split in the Hatton camp, with Mayweather's reportedly inexact timekeeping believed to have been an issue. Mayweather blamed Hatton's defeat on what he described as an error by the 'Hitman'.

"He didn't do as he was told," he said. "He didn't put his hands up. It was an error on his behalf. I was telling him in the dressing room before the fight make sure you keep your hands up. Defence is very important. Defence can destroy a fighter."

Hatton was taken to hospital as a precautionary measure after being floored for three minutes by a Pacquiao left hook but was released after being given the all-clear by doctors following a brain scan.

"He's perfectly all right," said Ray Hatton, Ricky's father. "They've checked him out. He's had all the tests and everything. He's not got a mark on him."

Talking on told Radio Five Live's Sportsweek programme Ray Hatton added that his son was left frustrated at having allowed himself get caught by a sucker punch after taking an excessively gung-ho approach. "He just said 'the old heart ruled the head again, Dad, steaming in, got my warning signs in the first round. Set off OK at the start of the second round, caught Manny with a few shots. Really it worried Manny a little bit, Manny was just throwing wild shots.' He said, 'then the heart ruled the head again and I went steaming in'."

Ray Hatton refused to be drawn on whether or not Ricky would call time on his career following his second professional defeat. "Obviously we will support him in whatever he does," he added. "And we'll leave that with him. At this moment in time he's probably got a few mixed feelings about it. He'll make that decision whichever way he wants to and the family will support him.

"I don't think he would let anybody make that decision for him. He would make it himself, that's one thing I am absolutely certain of. He's very, very strong willed. We've got to let Ricky make the decision and he knows we're 100% behind whatever decision he makes."

Ray Hatton did admit, however, that there appears to be little reason for his son to continue boxing. "Not on the financial side and what he's given to us. But it's a decision he makes. I know privately in a few months' time what he'll be thinking but I wouldn't like to say because I don't want to be putting him under undue pressure. He'll make the decision."

But like Floyd Mayweather Sr, Carl Froch, who last weekend knocked out Jermain Taylor to defend his WBC Super-middleweight title, also believes that it is time for Hatton to hang up his gloves.

"I think he's certainly achieved over and above what anybody expected from him when he turned professional," said Froch. "He's achieved an unbelievable status, he's up there with the best fighters in the world. He's achieved all he can achieve.

"I have to say if I was in his position after last night's performance I would definitely retire," he continued. "But I can't speak for another fighter. He will decide what he's going to do."