EMINEM VS.WOODIE(WHO HAS BETTER LYRICS?)

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DO U THINK ALL NORT RAPPERS SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND MAKE ANOTHER G.U.N.?

  • YES

    Votes: 21 77.8%
  • NO

    Votes: 6 22.2%

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Apr 25, 2002
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have you seen how quick rapperz can loze their money? have u heard of tha lawsuitz Eminem haz been thru? how much money they tried to take from him? look at MC Hammer....how many millionz did he have? and how many doez he have now? Eminem iz tryna live comfortably....id be doin tha same. any and everyone i know who'z come up tha way i did would make a couple bullshyt songz for tha massez so they'll get more publicity....which sellz more albumz....which makez more money....which allowz you to have a better lyfe! none of Eminem'z albumz would have sold az much az they did without thoze 2 or 3 bullshyt songz on every album. you dont know how much money tha man really haz. so how do you know he doeznt NEED to put out thoze bullshyt songz? how do you know he doeznt still NEED money? juzt cuz he'z all famous and putz out albumz that seemingly everyone buyz doeznt mean he actually haz millionz upon millionz of dollarz. again i say, look at MC Hammer.
 
Jul 21, 2002
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#82
everyone puts themselves in positions that gets them to where they are. if rappers lose alot of money, alot of time it is their fault, or that of an attorney, and it doesn't really matter how much you have at that point cause they can take it all. you gotta be smart about whatever you do.. look at TLC, they sold millions and claimed bankruptcy cause of faulty buisness. look at E40, i think maybe he has like one platinum album, but he is ballin outta control. i have come up extremely shitty myself and i don't think everyone would agree with you. i have been starving too and had to stay with homeboys and all of that. been in an apartment with 3 brothers and sisters and one unemployed mom. don't give me some shit about how your life is worse than anyones ever has been. whatever you reasons that you would do whatever to get money, cool. that's you, that ain't me. i been hungry and owed homeboys favors and all of that and rose above it and went out and did what i had to and earned respect along every step. if you do shit different, that's on you. if you die happy, then there is nothing i can say. it's your life
 
Aug 6, 2002
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i just wanted to say that eminem has lyrics but he is not the best maybe he is in the top percentage of all lyricists but come on no one has heard of canibus, chino xl, rass kass or any other of lyricists. the sad thing is that eminems white skin gives him both an easier time to sell millions but it also gives him more attention than the other lyricists. come on think if rass kass or canibus or chino xl had the production team of dre( I dont like his shit that he came out with lately first he was a nigga from compton, then a ignorant gangsta, then an intellegent man that did what he had to do like fake the gang life to make it, then he downs gang life and then he a gangster again) dont get me wrong that bitch can produce. but what gave eminem the privledge to get production from dre, his skin. Sad thing is I know that it sounds like IM downing him Im not theres something that makes me laugh at his shit and wanna hear it again. On the original question I dont know but as an artist I like Woodie more yeah I might be biased since Im ene but he spits shit that I relate to. eminem is more gimmick like and his cd gets tossed into a pile after a couple of listens but my woodie cd's get major rotation all the time along with season of the sick, setrippin block style, and Ramon Ayala's shit.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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"the sad thing is that eminems white skin gives him both an easier time to sell millions but it also gives him more attention than the other lyricists"


^^^^^^

YOUR TRIPPIN HARD HOMEBOY.......DONT U KNOW WHITE DUDES HAVE IT THE HARDEST?...BEING TAKIN SERIOUSLY...GETTIN RESPECT.....EVER SINCE VANILLA ICE, EVERY WHITE RAPPER HAS PAID A PRICE...REGARDLESS IF THEY KNOW IT OR NOT...AND REGARDLESS IF YOU KNOW IT OR NOT..ITS A FACT...WHITE DUDES HAVE THE ARDEST TIME GAINING CREDABILITY....

AND AS IVE STATED I DONT REALLY DIG EMINEMS SHIT..BUT HES EARNED HIS SHARE OF RESPECT WITH ME.
 
May 17, 2002
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FINAL VERDICT : WHAT A JOKE

DAMN I WAS WRONG THINKING PEOPLE WOULD CHOOSE WOODIE THIS SHIT FUCKED UP OH WELL I GUESS THE FINAL VERDICT IS EMINEM IS BETTER (YEAH RIGHT) LOL THATS WHAT U VATOS THINK AND WELL SEE IN A FEW YEARS WHOS STILL AROUND HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
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you dont think that at the same time the fact that he is white and that he can rap is what caused Dre to want to produce him. cuz if it was on skill alone why didnt he chose chino xl or canibus, or ras kass, I aint saying he aint shit he can rap but why did Dre wanna produce him and not the other lyricists. And my verdict is Woodie over Eminem for many reasons.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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FC ENE said:
you dont think that at the same time the fact that he is white and that he can rap is what caused Dre to want to produce him.
OF COURSE IT HAD AN AFFECT...ITS A RARE THING WHEN A WHITE GUY CAN HOLD HIS GROUND IN THE HIP HOP WORLD...BUT DONT YOU THINK THAT FOR THOSE SAME REASONS, DRE HAD TO MAKE SURE HE WAS REALLY LEGIT?...AND COULD REALLY SPIT?


Originally posted by FC ENE cuz if it was on skill alone why didnt he chose chino xl or canibus, or ras kass [/B]
EASIEST QUESTION TO ANSWER SO FAR.....CUZ NONE OF THE FOOLS YOU LISTED COULD FUCK WITH EMINEM LYRICALLY....PERIOD
 
Jul 21, 2002
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#88
it's like this in my eyes. eminem would destroy chino, canibus, and ras kass. they may have lyrics, but they have a very shitty delivery!!!!!!!! very shitty. it's like someone trying to talk pimp game and st st stuttering the whole time you dig? eminem is very talented, but, i have seen him talk about his career and he wants more to be accepted by the black community, and the folks that have worked with him have nothing but good shit to say as far as i know. on the other hand, he appeals to "white america" being the suburbia white america because he is white and because of the singles he has released. he get his respect from the urban community due to the fact that he is sick and can freestyle better than anyone i can think of. this is a black man's game for the most part as it stands but he can wreck shit on a freestyle. so yes, he does have to work harder to get the urban respect, but has to work 1/3 of what a minority does when it comes to suburban mafukkas.
 

Dizz

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Re: FINAL VERDICT : WHAT A JOKE

BIG DEEBO XIV said:
DAMN I WAS WRONG THINKING PEOPLE WOULD CHOOSE WOODIE THIS SHIT FUCKED UP OH WELL I GUESS THE FINAL VERDICT IS EMINEM IS BETTER (YEAH RIGHT) LOL THATS WHAT U VATOS THINK AND WELL SEE IN A FEW YEARS WHOS STILL AROUND HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
fuck naw i still dont think eminem is a better rapper in terms of content or lyrics or whatever.. woodie tops him in all that shit, and before beef springs up this is just my opinion...

in a few yrs they'll both still be around, but woodie will still be better...
 
Apr 25, 2002
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CHRISDOGG14 said:
don't give me some shit about how your life is worse than anyones ever has been.
fuck you homez. i NEVER said my lyfe wuz worse than anyone elsez. YOU brought that shyt up, and YOUR tha one who would have to explain to your kidz and tha rezt of your family that you're livin in slumz bcuz YOU had too much fuckin pride to "sellout" and take care of your familia, which SHOULD come firzt and foremozt, EVEN BEFORE PRIDE!

(im not sayin you'd wind up in slumz and all that shyt, im juzt sayin if you were STILL livin tha way u were, you'd wanna get tha fuck outta there. i know i did. i love my hood, but i dont wanna LIVE that way anymore. i still go to my hood and rep on tha daily, i juzt dont live lyke a dirty poor mofo anymore)
 
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and you're ryght Chris, everyone got different viewz and opinionz and makez different choicez, but i really feel sorry for you or anyone else who would rather maintain hiz pride than maintain tha wealth and health of hiz family.
 
Jul 21, 2002
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look homie. the mothafukka would not be poor if he didn't sell that pop shit, he wouldn't. he still would be a millionaire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what i am sayin about me is, i wouldn't have done those songs and if this rap game didn't work for me, then i would work 2 or 3 jobs or whatever to raise my family. there is nothing wrong with a 9 to five, or even 10pm to 10am job. i am not sayin, if i didn't sell my shit how i wanted, i would just live poor forever. i am still a hustla by nature. whatever job i had to work to support us and keep us afloat i would and i have faith that the Lord would provide for us. i mean, if i put out an album and only sold like a 1000 copies, if it only took me $5000 to get the album out and shit, i still would have a good profit margin. you think about 12 bucks for a cd on consignment, i made 7000 bucks, on top of a 9 to 5 job, and maybe next go round i would sell more Lord willing. there are ways to make money besides rap and i would have make some sacrifices but we would be fine and not live the life i led, trust that. look at sir dyno, woodie, spice 1, they didn't have to sell out or use the radio to put their shit out, i am not sayin i am as good as they are, but you get the point. it ain't about ballin, but being comfortable. i could live on 40000 a year from this game and be the happiest dood alive. i hope you understand that homie, i really do
 
Apr 25, 2002
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#94
i understand wut you're saying, but thatz YOU. everyone haz different wayz of livin. my family once made $40,000 a year homie, but then shyt happened and it ended up tha way i grew up....no money. thingz happen man, id much rather live COMFORTABLY with a substantial amount of money in tha bank (in case sumthin happenz) than live on regular checkz from a 9 to 5 which mozt lykely wouldnt provide much money.
also, you muzt not know much about tha music industry homeboy. if you sell 1,000 copiez of your CD and spent $5,000 puttin it out, you wont be making a profit of $7,000. you're thinkin you're gonna get tha whole $12,000 from tha CD salez and you're deducting tha $5,000 it took you to make tha CD, but you dont get that $12 a CD homeboy. tha store can sell that shyt for $20 if they want, that doeznt mean you're gonna be gettin $20 a pop. azk any artizt about it.
az for tha Eminem situation....sorry to say but you are a fool if you'd rather live on $40,000/yr rather than be able to provide for your kidz, their kidz, and their kid'z kidz. i would much rather be a millionaire than have to work my ass off year after year juzt to get by on a normal wage. fuck that.
and you dont know how it woulda turned out if Eminem hadnt "gone pop." juzt cuz Dre found him doeznt mean shyt. Dre haz had a grip of artiztz that he'z found that havent sold shyt! look at tha aftermath rozter....who do you know from it besydez Dre and Eminem? exactly. so to say Eminem would still be a millionaire without making thoze songz iz nothing more than a guess.
 
Jul 21, 2002
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dre has put people out, but their shit wasn't on MTV first, then every pop station, shit was on pop stations not just rap. even rock stations, why??????/cause he's white working with dre. yeah it's a guess but i think it is a safe guess. i forgot about having to put money into the next project out of my last profits, but anyhow, you can talk to the store owner and say, this is what i want out of it, but the store can charge whatever. i do know about it, but it varies store to store. like at backdoor in cotati, i think they will work with you like that. damn near every new cd they have is 17 bucks. they are gettin 5 bucks a cd for nothing more than having it there, they will work with you, you deserve the other 12 since it is your product. but that profit doesn't include all the ones you sell "out the trunk" too. you get all that money whatever you charge, i know there is taxes and shit especially if it's soundscan, but someone sellin 1000 records ain't gonna be on soundscan most likely. i have seen alot of the buisness side from my homeboy in oklahoma. he is a studio owner and he puts out mix tapes so he always taught me that shit cause he knew i might want to get into it one day.
and if you think i am a fool for not wanting millions off of pop music, then its whatever. the MOST IMPORTANT thing to me, is God, my family and homeboys. all i really want to do is raise a Christian family like i know the Lord wants me to. if i didn't feel that way, i wouldn't have joined the military and i would have put tapes out already, and i bet you that!!! i have confidence that the Lord will provide for me and mine and he will show me the way. He has not put it on my heart to pursue rappin so i have taken a step back from writing at this point even. but homie, don't say i am a fool for not wanting millions, cause everyone knows that money clouds your vision of what's really important and i have confidence that the Lord would never give my family and i more pain and anguish than we can handle, all we have to do is keep him first. so that's why i am COMFORTABLE with the 40000, which isn't alot especially damn near anywhere in cali, especially watsonville and santa rosa which is where i will live when i leave the military, but i have been blessed and i have confidence there is still plenty more out there for me. i may not be ballin, but i have saved over 5000 cash this year and will have at least 10000 by april in my bank account. i have plenty of faith and that's why i could live on however much the Lord provides for me, i don't need millions, all i need is him, trust that
 
Apr 25, 2002
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itz up to you. but a "Christian" would never bang. a "Christian" wouldnt have a name with a big 1-4 on tha end of it. dont mean to call you out but you've juzt contradicted yourself. itz up to you how you live. if i had tha opportunity to make it big id take it. i guess you wouldnt. thatz on you.

fuck a mediocre lyfe.
 

Tim

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CHRISDOGG14 said:
you don't know the whole story, and you're wrong
I don't know what you think he's wrong about but a "true christian" doesn't not and would not bang. It's a huge contradiction.
 
Jul 21, 2002
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i am a new christian. i am at a crossroads. i am at the point, where i don't go looking for violence like i used to. now it's like, if it comes to me you dig? them fools are trying to dust me, i am not going to offer my hand in friendship. hopefully one day, i will never have to bang again and just live a christian life. but at this point, i can't just let it go. i got homeboys you know? i can't leave them. i am striving to make changes in my life and one day i will shake this, who knows, maybe it will kill me, maybe i will be green lighted for finding God, that's a chance i take. and what happend to woodie and eminem in this conversation, lol
 
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