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May 9, 2002
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#61
Did I say he ONLY uses ghostwriters? No. Does he use them at all? In my opinion yes. As fast as he put this cd out after relapse, I think he used a lil help. Am I knocking him for it? No. I'm also not putting him on a pedestal above other artists who have used the same "tools of the trade". I'm fairly certain none of us here personally know him, let alone kicked it with him while he was writing. So anything regarding the subject would be speculation and opinion. You guys are free to believe what you want, I will do the same.
How do you know he didnt have a bunch of songs ready to be written? Most GOOD rappers have 10's of hundreds of songs on deck. Look at 2Pac...the amount of material he had lying around was scary. You think he is the ONLY rapper in the world to stash rhymes?

Rappers (writers) dont just say "im gonna have X amount of songs on the album, so I will only write that many". Thats now how it works. Like producers/beat makers, they write A BUNCH of shit, and chose what they feel is necessary for a given release.
 
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Did I say he ONLY uses ghostwriters? No. Does he use them at all? In my opinion yes. As fast as he put this cd out after relapse, I think he used a lil help. Am I knocking him for it? No.e.
I hope you know he a professional recording artist not no local dude with dreams.Hes a professional meaning he records new songs every week or even everyday. mass rappers gucci, wayne, 50 cent, the game, camron etc records hundreds of songs but only puts 15 out to public and put the rest in a vault or keep on a hard drive..
 
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#63
Did I say he ONLY uses ghostwriters? No. Does he use them at all? In my opinion yes. As fast as he put this cd out after relapse, I think he used a lil help. Am I knocking him for it? No. I'm also not putting him on a pedestal above other artists who have used the same "tools of the trade". I'm fairly certain none of us here personally know him, let alone kicked it with him while he was writing. So anything regarding the subject would be speculation and opinion. You guys are free to believe what you want, I will do the same.
What do you mean as fast as he put this cd out after Relapse?? It's already been a year since Relapse dropped.
 

Meta4iCAL

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#64
Did I say he ONLY uses ghostwriters? No. Does he use them at all? In my opinion yes. As fast as he put this cd out after relapse, I think he used a lil help. Am I knocking him for it? No. I'm also not putting him on a pedestal above other artists who have used the same "tools of the trade". I'm fairly certain none of us here personally know him, let alone kicked it with him while he was writing. So anything regarding the subject would be speculation and opinion. You guys are free to believe what you want, I will do the same.
I wouldn't say that's an opinion... it's more of an assumption of a fact... you're assuming a fact to be true... but the problem is you have no evidence to back it up

an opinion is a subjective point of view... saying that Eminem has ghostwriters is not subjective... it's an objective point... just think you should understand exactly what you're talking about before you put it in bold two times in your post

and you say that you weren't knocking him for it... but just simply pointing it out, but why is that the only thing you pointed out??

so if you think he wrote some of the lyrics, why not say... Em and his ghostwriters were on their A game...???

it really did come off as you were hating...

and besides... like other people pointed out... artists have tons of music recorded and stashed away... and even if they didn't... it couldn't take him that long to write, if he locks himself up in the studio, I'm sure he could easily write at least a few songs in a day... if not more
 

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Last time he came out with albums back to back this close to each other, I wasn't feeling the material at all. Call it an assumption if you want, I could just as easily call you believing he writes every single rhyme an assumption.

@IPIM, I bolded the word opinion for a reason and never said I knew anything for a fact. Do you claim to know these things for a fact?

@ dark, I am aware he's not a local, which leads me to believe he has that much more reason to use ghostwriters. Although I'll state it again, this is only my opinion, I never claimed to know anything for a fact and unless you just got off the phone with him dj pimp style, I don't think you do either. Let's agree to disagree because this is kind of pointless if it's based on having differing opinions.

@ meta, I should have been more clear in my initial post. I can see how in can be misinterpreted as hating.
 
May 7, 2002
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Although I don't believe Em uses ghost writers, I have to agree with Al boo boo that, since neither of us have proof, all of our opinions/beliefs/assumptions in this case are subjective.

PS: I applaud you guys for keeping this debate civil and not calling each other retards, fags, etc., just because you happen to disagree with one another.
 
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2nd listen thru on the album and I must say...

He definitely brought it back old school on this one. Fuck what anybody say...

Best Em shit I heard in a while.
 

poet

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ima just wait till it comes out for sale I support the artist I like and never bootleg it
that's cool of you, captain valiant !!


clownin, of course. im with you in love; but also, in reality, this is something that i can preorder for soooo long still, but i cant stop the drive to peep it. why should i leave it to just the critics, the sarcastic, and sardonic ones when i can also find it ? if it's out there, it's out there for a reason; whether shady put it out or someone was just dick and jacked it from him.. im on the fence on that one--i just dont know. whatever. but i doubt many people on the siccness are about stealing from the artist more so than supporting them :)
 

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its got its poppy moments but hes got some downright brutal verses on this. nice work. this is the album i expected relapse to be.
 
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Man....I didn't think I'd say this, but I freakin love I Love the Way You Lie featurin Rihanna. She fuckin killed that hook, what a great song, and would be a hit single, I bet its one of the next 2 singles.
 
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Last time he came out with albums back to back this close to each other, I wasn't feeling the material at all. Call it an assumption if you want, I could just as easily call you believing he writes every single rhyme an assumption.

@IPIM, I bolded the word opinion for a reason and never said I knew anything for a fact. Do you claim to know these things for a fact?

@ dark, I am aware he's not a local, which leads me to believe he has that much more reason to use ghostwriters. Although I'll state it again, this is only my opinion, I never claimed to know anything for a fact and unless you just got off the phone with him dj pimp style, I don't think you do either. Let's agree to disagree because this is kind of pointless if it's based on having differing opinions.

@ meta, I should have been more clear in my initial post. I can see how in can be misinterpreted as hating.
there is no way he has ghost writers. dude raps about shit only em raps about, no1 else can pull that off or even try to write it, he puts his real life situations in his raps and when he doesnt he's on some amazing shit which no ghost writer would do unless it was for himself. i always felt that relapse was a lil weird cause it had no proof dedications and after this album having a ton i can only assume that relapse was prolly old shit and this is more of what he was really writing during the time relapse was just dropped, i mean think of all his collabs during that time, they all sounded like recovery em not relapse. thats just my input though, but i'm almost 100 percent sure he has no ghostwriters, just impossible IMO
 
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i'll just put it out like this:

i have it amazon'd on pre-order, but until it gets here, im stuck with 128k sound.
umm they have the 320kbs rip on websites, i got mine from demonoid. need one shoot me a PM and it comes with the extra itunes exclusive song which is untitled according to the person who ripped it up there.
 
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^I'd hate to burst your bubble dude, but even Dr. Dre uses ghost producers. Big name acts got to do what it takes to stay on the top. I even insinuated that the rhymes themselves were good, so miss me with the cheerleading.
funny that you assume that i dont know that most big name artists use ghost writers/producers. its a fact that really isnt that much of a secret.