EDJ said:
LOL. YOU CONTRADICTIN' YOURSELF BY ATTEMPTIN' SOME REVERSE PSYCOLOgICAL BULLSHIT.
Simple sarcasm...lolT
THEN YOU STRESSED, "I don't know what you gettin at by this, havin the diaspora aka having the lost soul of Africa in it?"
THERE YOU gO. INDIRECTLY YES.[/quote]
There I go what? I didn't understand your statement. A diaspora is a scattering or a seperation. You said "as long as it has the diaspora in it." I wasn't solid as to what you meant to that.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Who said they was takin the soul out?"
I DID. BUT LET ME gIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'M STRESSIN':
A.D(ALREADY DEAD) WAS RAISED IN THE HOOD WITH NOTHIN' BUT BLAK FOLK AND PICCED UP AND EMBRACED THE CULTURE. A.D FEELS THE MUSIC OF SUCH CAUSE HE FEELS IT IN HIS SOUL AND DECIDES TO MAKE HIS OWN. A.D IS RECOgNIZED FOR HIS MUSICAL CONTRIBUTIONS AND EVEN IS WELL RESPECTED IN THE BLAK COMMUNITY AND THERE'S EVEN RUMORS THAT HE MIgHT HAVE BLAK BLOOD IN HIM. BUT A.D gETS POPULAR WITH WHITE PEOPLE AND SOON ALL KIND OF WHITE KIDS WANNA BE LIKE A.D. OUT OF ALL THIS, BRINgS A WHOLE gENERATION OF WHITES EMULATIN' A.D. THERE'S THIS HARD ROCCER THAT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE A.D AND INFUSES HIS SOUND TO THAT A.D. BUT WAIT, THIS gUY WAS JUST A RACIST LAST YEAR. IT DON'T MATTER..................
See this is gonna happen no matter what. The culture has been watered down when it goes mainstream. The rise of internet Crippism is an example. Some whitey on some message board recently told me not say "sick", but to say "sicc", etc. I asked him why, he said "cause sick is like feelin sick, sicc is like ill". He had no idea whats behind it.
And you look at all the phoneys on the siccness who got names like "Striccly Sicc", etc. But this happens anytime anything goes mainstream. I can't tell you how many white people I heard goin 'Whoaaa get out the way" or "get crunk" recently. I felt like doin some shit but you know it's gonna happen anyways.
So the real issue in the watering down is would you rather have white people jock and copy black rappers, or jock and copy white rappers or mexican rappers? It seems a bit more tied to Black people losing their niche in society. I guarantee if there were less black rappers, and more black doctors, lawyers, etc., it wouldn't be as big a deal when someone from outside the community cuts into the rap scene. In any case, rap is never gonna be taken away from black people.
What matters to me is the music. For example lately I really been feelin A-Wax. It don't got shit to with the fact he's white, just that his style is unique, and supposedly, he done a major bid, got affiliations, whatever. If there were more A-Wax's, and less Eminems, I don't think white rappers would be as big an issue. Also, if more white kids didn't feel guilty or stupid, etc., listening to "white" music, there would be less watering down of Black culture. On one hand, many in the scene today are basically telling kids and people "identify as far away from white as you can". This is the road to legitimacy. Just like you now discount me because of a supposed past racist comment, kids these days are being told they are a joke for being white. Therefore, listening and emulating rap is the path of least resistance.
SO WHAT HAPPENED HERE? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SHIT FROM THE HOOD? IT LOST IT'S FLAVOR THRU THE gRAPEVINE.
See but this is more a MTV issue than a race issue.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's impossible to seperate urban culture from the black identity and influence, the two are too much intermixed."
TELL THAT TO THE CLOSET RACIST. TELL THAT TO THE ESE'S WHO HATE BLAK PEOPLE PERSONALLY, BUT INDULgE IN PREDOMINANT BLAK MUSIC. TELL THAT TO THE CHICANO RAP AFFICIANADO'S WHO LOVE RAP BUT HATE BLAKS.
Chicanos/Latinos can make solid rap, and it might be very "Latin", but the invention lies in the hands of Black people. But how far does the process go? Japanese people never invented shit, but they make it better. Are we wrong to call Subarus Japanese cars? I personally feel Sir Dyno. I'd say it's some bangin ass Latin rap. Eventually, it could outgrow or morph into a different type of music. But the black influence will always be there. But I don't attribute something as complex and multi-layered as music to any one race, I think Mozart, to Maximillion, to Chuck Berry, to P.Diddy all have an effect, and all draw from a common pool.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "So what you sayin is a mexican or a asian could rap, or tag, or use slang, or some shit, but it just ain't the same was when Black people do it?"
TO SOME EXTENT AND IN MOST OCCASSIONS. BUT gRAFFITI'IN'(WHAT YOU CALL TAggIN') IS MOSTLY DONE BY YOUNg ESE'S AND SKATERS. NIggAS RARELY DO THAT SHIT.
That's true. Mostly when Blacks graffiti, it's about turf boundaries, gang shit, etc., less about a hobby or art. T
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Of course it ain't the same. But you also implying it's worse because of it."
BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. BUT TAKE A POLL AND LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. YOUR ANSWER LIES WITHIN' THEY PERCEPTIONS. DON'T PUT IT OFF ON ME.
"Watered down" is usually not a good way to describe something.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "So what does "watered down" mean? Worse? Or different?
EITHA OR.
See but those words have different implications, if worse, then other cultures don't have a right to make black music, or borrow from black musical elements. If different, then they do.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Cause to you it means worse, since the only legitimate culture is Black people."
WHAT YOU gONNA TELL ME WHAT I THINK? IT'S LIKE MIXXIN' APPLES WITH ORANgES. SO YOU SAYIN' A BLAK MAN CAN MAKE BETTER MEXICAN MUSIC THAN A MEXICAN? THE INTEgRITY OF RAP MUSIC LAYS IN THE BLAK COMMUNITY. IT'S ONLY OBVIOUS THAT'S WHY NIggAS DOMINATE IT AND ARE NURTURED IN IT. MOST OF US LIVE AND BREATHE THAT SHIT. I AIN'T SAYIN' THAT THERE AREN'T EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE(CAUSE THERE IS), BUT WHAT I'M SAYIN' IS THAT WHILE BROTHAS LIVIN' AND BREATHIN' THIS SHIT, THAT THE "EXPRESSIONS" COME NATURAL, REAL, AND FROM THE HEART AND SOUL, WHILE OTHAS ARE MOSTLY EMULATIN' WHAT THEY SEE OR WHAT'S IN STYLE.
In the case of a phony, yea. But what kind of musical influences inspired rap, disco, which was inspired by, which was inspired by, etc. There are gonna be elements inserted in the musical tree by other races.
6 MONTHS, 2 DAYS, 1, 6, 1/2 OR THE OTHA, THE POINT IS THAT YOU SHOWED YOUR TRUE COLORS WHEN PUT UNDA PRESSURE. IT'S LIKE IF TWO BIg ASS NIggAS WAS PLAYIN' WITH YOU , SAYIN' THAT YOU KNOW YOU A FAg, AND THEY KEEP NAggIN' YOU AND AT THE END YOU PULL DOWN YOUR PANTS SO THEY CAN STIK IT IN YOUR ASS.
lmao this ain't a repressed memory is it??
INSTEAD OF HOLDIN' YOUR gROUND, YOU gAVE IN AND BUSTED UNDA PRESSURE. SAME PRINCIPLE HERE. YOU SHOULD OF HELD YOUR gROUND. YOU SHOULD OF KEPT YOUR DIgNITY. [/B]
Alright, well we ain't goin nowhere with this. I'm done. Some shit I said off the top of my head on the internet don't necessarily constitute my intent. What I saw was, you had to click up, and who was I gonna click up with. What you saw was, he wants to join some Nazi shit.
