DHB vs Crabtree

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So who is going to be the better receiver/have the biggest impact on their team?

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Tony

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Let's give DHB sometime... he's just playing it cool. He's gotta step his game up. I think the Raiders need to throw to him a little bit more to get his confidence up. He is drawing double coverage though. Maybe a screen or two would help get him in rythm.
 
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Fucky McFuckerson

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Tony said:
Let's give DHB sometime... he's just playing it cool. He's gotta step his game up. I think the Raiders need to throw to him a little bit more to get his confidence up. He is drawing double coverage though. Maybe a screen or two would help get him in rythm.
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He needs a better QB to throw him the rock. Kind of hard to catch the ball when its being overthrown by 10 yards.
 
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Tony

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JR does need to improve on his accuracy. He does tend to overthrow his receivers. He wasn't pressured and still overthrew. I agree, but I am not down on JR though. JR, McFadden, and DHB all have to step their games up.
 
FATAL NYGHTMARE

FATAL NYGHTMARE

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I Pukokeki Ioulo Momu said:
DHB wins on the sheer fact that he didn't hold out like a faggot and is actually on the field.
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First of all, of course he didn't hold out. He knew he was getting way more money than he deserved. Second, DHB has actually negatively impacted his team by dropping balls that another receiver probably would have CAUGHT had he been on the field instead of DHB. So no, he doesn't win.
 
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ady2glude707

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LMAO this guys proud to be a decoy. Im sure the raiders are happy to use the #7 pick on a decoy.

Rookie Heyward-Bey gets attention
By Steve Corkran
Oakland Tribune
Posted: 09/16/2009 07:25:24 PM PDT
Updated: 09/17/2009 07:13:48 AM PDT

Raiders rookie wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey had a quiet game in his NFL debut on Monday night, but he was quite vociferous on Wednesday toward those who questioned his impact, ability and readiness.

Heyward-Bey started against the San Diego Chargers opposite fellow rookie receiver Louis Murphy. Heyward-Bey dropped one pass, had another hit off his hands and finished the game without a reception.

Murphy caught four passes for 87 yards, including a 57-yarder that resulted in a go-ahead touchdown with 2:34 left in a game the Raiders lost 24-20.

The day after, coach Tom Cable said it appeared Heyward-Bey was "real nervous" and an "uptight young man, (with) a lot of big eyes."

Heyward-Bey, the No. 7 overall pick in the 2009 NFL draft, had a different take.

"I felt the same I always did since I've been playing in high school," Heyward-Bey said while preparing for Sunday's game against the Kansas City Chiefs. "I did what the coaches asked me to do when it came to running routes and everything, so I felt it was pretty solid.

"As long as the coaches notice, that's all that matters. I don't really care what the fans think or what anybody else thinks. As long as they see I'm doing the job they want me to do, they're the ones paying me."

Look beyond the statistics, Heyward-Bey said. Don't pay so much attention to the fact that he didn't catch any of the four passes directed his way.

His role transcends catching balls, he said. Oftentimes, his primary job is to draw attention away from the other receivers, Heyward-Bey added.

As evidence, the rookie from Maryland pointed to the production of Murphy, a fourth-round draft pick, and tight end Zach Miller. They combined for 10 catches for 183 yards and a touchdown.

"Just the fact that I'm out there, Louis had four catches and Zach had six," Heyward-Bey pointed out. "That's more than what any receiver had all last year put together almost. If you look at it that way, it's great. If you look at it the other way, you're like, 'When is it going to happen?' I look at it the other way. We're improving as a team."

Cable agreed Heyward-Bey's speed and deep-threat ability force teams to account for him at times with two defenders, which helps out elsewhere.

"He's already pulling coverage toward him because of his speed, and that definitely showed up," Cable said Wednesday. "That is a part of his responsibility, and a big part. But at the same time, he's got to grow in all facets, whether it's blocking, catching, running the route, pulling the coverage, whatever that is. You just want to get him as close to a complete player as quickly as we can."

Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe is in his third NFL season. He said it's understandable for a young receiver to start off slow.

"Oh, man, my first NFL game, I got hit so hard that I didn't know where I was, first of all," Bowe said in a conference call with Bay Area media Wednesday.

Bowe finished with three catches for 42 yards in his first regular-season game. He said encouraging words from veteran players calmed his nerves and helped him find his way before long.

"I had jitters until I got my first catch (two plays into the opener)," Bowe said. "Can you just imagine (what it's like) just shaking? If you're a playmaker, you're a playmaker. Once you tell yourself that and don't lose confidence, all the great receivers drop balls, mess up here and there, but it's how you come back that makes you special."

Raiders receiver Javon Walker said it's too early for the veterans to chime in. Heyward-Bey just needs to listen to his coaches and plug along until it becomes natural.

"It is something that should be expected," Walker said of the early struggles. "You got two rookies starting in their first game ever. I was a rookie at one point in time, but I never got put in that position. Eventually as time goes on, they will get more comfortable. You take what you know, and eventually you will go out and play football."
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REdRUM

REdRUM

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What are you basing that on? A catch vs. Texas on a highlight?

If you've followed Crabtree and seen him play, you'd know he won't be this ''great'' reciever that HE thinks he is. He'll be a decent #3...on a team who's lacking recievers to begin with. Sure, he'll be put out there a little more this season, what with the hype factor, but he'll be remembered as much as JJ Stokes in 5 years.

Skill wise, Crabtree > DHB, but that's not saying much...
 
thascary1

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IronLungs420 said:
Crabtree about to be a real factor in the nfl in a few weeks unlike DHB
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lets see whens the last time he played football? now add to that nfl speed football? he hasnt practiced, since not signed he didnt have a playbook. He is lucky to produce much if anything this season. much less within a few weeks.
 
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Just because dhb is shit, doesn't mean you have to shit on crabtree. And lol @ calling crabtree overrated the guy is ranked 1st in every meaningful wr stat for the last 3 seasons in college. He had more than just that catch vs texas. Also we got him at a resonable price unlike the raidturds getting raped by dhb!
 
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IronLungs420

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Tony said:
So mark my words and we'll re-visit this thread during the season.

DHB is going to benefit from facing perhaps the best corner in the league in practice and he's going to benefit from playing with a qb that has the strongest arm in the league. DHB's speed alone will draw double teams which means single coverage for Higgins coming out of the slot or single coverage for McFadden vs a linebacker. If you leave DHB in one on one in man coverage, guess what's going to happen? JaMarcus is going to let if fly and let them race to the ball. So all y'all critics and non-believers better recognize!

DHB>Crabtree all day suckaz!

Raiders fo' life!!
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LOL @ raiturd fans!
 
REdRUM

REdRUM

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College is not the pros. I don't think Crabtree is a.) strong/physical enough, or b.) fast enough for the game. Plus, I honestly don't think he'll be this great player YOU seem to think he will be. I don't have to ''hate'' the guy to feel that way. I wouldn't want him on the Raiders, either.

DHB couldn't consistantly catch a ball to save his life, and I'm no fan of his, so your bullshit thinking that I'm ''shitting'' on Crabtree just for the hell of it is retarded.
 
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