DEgREES OF WIggA-ISM

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aye basically this thread pissed me off alot, for one, you misunderstood alot that i stated probly due to the fact i wasnt statin my opinions in the usual form i do because of the anger and ill fess up to that. i wasnt callin my parents the insecure ignorant bitches i was sayin that to you, the whole idea of stating that you sound like my parents, is, their generation pretty much had no choice but to think like they did because of how society was, and for you to sound the same is degenerative. you said that thats coo to act how i want and do what i want but someday somebodys gonna "test me"? do you think all white people live in a box? i kno how this world works, puttin myself out there as tough and wearin the clothes i do and watever im ready to "be tested", you talk like all black people that talk and act hard scare the shit out of white people, it may be like that where you live but what in the fuck is so scary about black people? and the statements in this thread that you have made are worthless, theyre ignorant, thats just like someone saying" well black people are all broke and cheat on their wives" you just sound racist and prejudice to all white people and i hate racists and prejudice people no matter what color they are and who they hate on. so you making a thread called "degreez of wiggaism" is the same as someone making a thread called "degreez of niggerism" watever the fuck that is you get the point, its gunna offend people
 
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aye basically this thread pissed me off alot, for one, you misunderstood alot that i stated probly due to the fact i wasnt statin my opinions in the usual form i do because of the anger and ill fess up to that. i wasnt callin my parents the insecure ignorant bitches i was sayin that to you, the whole idea of stating that you sound like my parents, is, their generation pretty much had no choice but to think like they did because of how society was, and for you to sound the same is degenerative. you said that thats coo to act how i want and do what i want but someday somebodys gonna "test me"? do you think all white people live in a box? i kno how this world works, puttin myself out there as tough and wearin the clothes i do and watever im ready to "be tested", you talk like all black people that talk and act hard scare the shit out of white people, it may be like that where you live but what in the fuck is so scary about black people? and the statements in this thread that you have made are worthless, theyre ignorant, thats just like someone saying" well black people are all broke and cheat on their wives" you just sound racist and prejudice to all white people and i hate racists and prejudice people no matter what color they are and who they hate on. so you making a thread called "degreez of wiggaism" is the same as someone making a thread called "degreez of niggerism" watever the fuck that is you get the point, its gunna offend people
We've talked about Niggerism on this board, niggerism is a culture. Some break away from this culture others don't.... Matter of fact I posted an article a few days ago on Niggerism...

Now to WCMalice, in your post about using the word nigga all your doing in my opinion is justifying ignorance. You seem to think that since you add an "A" and drop the "Er" the word loses it's meaning. When a rapper says the word "trigga" instead of "trigger" do they mean something else? Nope it's an accent thang, same with the word nigga/er. So why do so many people say that the two words are different? S T U P I D I T Y / I G N O R A N C E/ D E N I A L to justify using a word that is common in the hip hop world.

Now with some of the black folks that use this word, you got to remember that their Africans that were completely stripped of their African culture a lot of them don't know who they are, and adopted a culture that labled them as niggers. All your really doing WC is taking advantage of some peoples ignorance by using the word.
 
May 27, 2002
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RIPPA,
YOU STRESSED, "i dont really concern myself with how one is "acting black" or "acting white" i have better things to think about."

I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT EITHA TIL A SEE A FEW SQUARE BEARS TRYIN' TO FRONT.

thats the same way i am

THEN YOU STRESSED, "most likely."

HOW YOU FIgURE?

being raised around mostly whites, i think i can safely assume that at least 70% of them are biased against blacks in some form or another

THEN YOU STRESSED, "but how would you say one would "act white"?"

REREAD WHAT I JUST STRESSED, PEEP: "THE NIggAS THAT "ACT WHITE" EITHA THINK THEY TOO gOOD FOR THEY OWN RACE, ARE IgNORANT OF IT, OR DON'T INDULgE IN IT FOR WHATEVA REASON."
MEANIN' THAT IF I'M BLAK, BUT THEN WENT TO A CORPORATE SETTIN', OR SOME ENVIRONMENT WHERE MY OWN RACE IS SCARCE, BUT MOSTLY PRE-DOMINANTLY ANgLO, AND THEN AFTER THAT, FLIPPED MY SCRIPT, ADOPTED THE WAYS AND MENTALITY OF THE MASSES THEN STARTED TALKIN' BAD ABOUT MY OWN PEOPLE INSTEAD OF TRYIN' TO HELP THEM OUT, THEN I WOULD PERSONALLY CONSIDER THAT "ACTIN' WHITE" OR BEIN' A "SELLOUT".

ok i gotcha. i thought you meant if some guy just liked rock and roll, then hes being a sellout. i see what you mean. i can agree with your statement.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "basically, what i am trying to say is, act the way you were brought up."

SO YOU TELLIN' SUBURBAN WHITEBOYS TO STAY OUT THE gHETTO CAUSE THEY WASN'T RAISED THERE?

not really. i say go if you like, but just be yourself. they dont have to act hard because they are suddenly surrounded by black folk. most people would see right thru that anyways.
 
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what about the white dude that co-founded def jam (Ruben i think). and the Cohen dude thats running defjam???

they white but they get love like they are niggas. are THEY wiggas? should THEY not represent. are THEY watering down our culture??????

EDJ. I don't see your reasoning.

are you saying that whites should not be involved with black culture at all???

if you are that's kinda (if not very) ignorant considering that they either purposefully or unwittingly caused our culture in the first place.

Think about it.
 
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to me the term wigger is as derogatory as nigger. i feel that i am not a wigger, but many people would feel that i am, including my sister. i listen to rap all the time, i hate rock it annoys me. i dont dress black, i am as preppy as they come i wear abercrombie and american eagle, i would never try to sport an ecko shirt, i wouldnt be caught dead in some rocca wear shit so if sumone wants to call me a wigger just becouse of that then they can go fuck themselves

as for the degrees of wiggerness, fuck that. dont clown someone because they feel comfortable wearing "black" clothes, or because they listen to rap or talk "black." its inevitable in todays cociety in america that every single person will be infuenced by black culture in some way or another.

-peace
 
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SOLO said:
Check again. The Beastie Boys didn't invent rap. Black people were the first to rap.
Tell that to someone who thinks white people invented rap. The Beastie Boys were making rap music in the 80's, which was before it was a known part of any culture. I stand by what I said.

EDJ said:
SO WHAT CHANgED? SO NOW YOU JUST BAK TO BEIN' "YOU" AND FUK RAP?
First of all, I never said or implied any "fuck rap" mentality. Secondly, how do you figure I am back to "being me" because I don't listen to it as much as I used to? People change in time, I didn't revert back to being anything. I still listen to rap music, just not as much as I used to. Why? Mainly because I like the older style of rap music such as Rappin Ron & Ant Diddly Dog, Early-Mac Dre, Mall, Lynch etc. I had struggled in recent years finding anything that appealed to me the same way those artists did back in the day. Alot of the material I bought recently didn't satisfy me other then maybe a few songs on an entire album.

EDJ said:
DOES IT? ONLY YOU CAN ANSWER THAT. HOW OTHAS PERCEIVE YOU IS A DIFERENT QUESTION.
I'm questioning your statement though. You said "THAT RIgHT THERE SOUND LIKE A WIggA TO ME" and I am asking you if you think because a white person listens to rap, that they are a "wigga". I do NOT think that statement is true.

EDJ said:
WHITE PEOPLE DIDN'T INVENT ALL THAT YOU NAMED, THEY JUST MADE IT POPULAR FOR THE MAINSTREAM MASSES. EXAMPLE: ROK WAS INVENTED BY BLAK PEOPLE, WHITE PEOPLE CHANgED IT AND THEN DOMINATED IT.
By "ROK" I assume your talking about baseball. How do you know it was invented by black people? What is your proof, did you read some article or book written by an "black" person where it stated they invented it?

EDJ said:
BUT FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL ARE DOMINATED BY BLAK MEN. NIggAS TOOK OVER.
What does that have to do with another race involving themselves into a part of another culture. The simple fact that "black" people partook in such events is all that matters here. African-Americans are accepted into those sports, they arnt given a stupid name and talked shit upon when they join the NFL.

EDJ said:
RAP IS NOT DOMINATED BY WHITES. AND NIggAS WILL BE DAMNED IF IT DOES. BUT YOU NEVA KNOW , RIgHT?
Correct. White people make up for a majority of Rap/Hip-Hop album sales, it's only a matter of time if you ask me. Check Eminem's album sales..

EDJ said:
WHO SAID IT DID? AND WHAT IS MY WAY?
Your way is thinking a white person involving themselves in any part of the african-american culture is a wigger (you implied this by saying I sound like a wigger JUST BECAUSE I listen to rap) and any black person involving themselves in any part of a white culture, it's all good, because you dominated parts of it.

EDJ said:
THE THANg IS, WHAT IS THIS "WHITE CULTURE" YOU ARE TALKIN' ABOUT? ARE YOU TALKIN' BOUT MAINSTREAM SUBCULTURE THAT MOST FOLLOW THAT IS CONTROLLED BY THE PRE-DOMINANT ANgLO MASSES? OR ARE YOU TALKIN' BOUT PRO-EURO-CENTRIC SUBCULTURE?
I knew you would ask this question, thats why I took the liberty in answering it WAY before you could even ask it. You asked me what I mean by "white culture", you even quoted the answer on the next line...

EDJ said:
THANgS LIKE WHAT?
Already went through a VERY SMALL list. No need to go any further.

EDJ said:
LOL. WHO TOLD YOU THAT? THE BEASTIE BOYS PRODUCER WAS BLAK, THUS MAKIN' THERE BEATS BLAK AND APPEALIN' TO BLAK FOLK BAK THEN. BUT THE BEASTIE BOYS WERE IN A gENRE DOMINATED BY BLAK PEOPLE, THEY JUST TRIED TO ADD A LIL ROK TO IT.
Who told me that... ummm, the time and date at which it occured maybe? What does the skin color of the person making their beats have to do with anything? Well, MOST rap artists are under labels owned by white people, so what does that mean? No point in going down the food chain, lets stick with the artists at hand, not who are directly around them.
 

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YOUNg MOE,
YOU STRESSED, "edj got some issues"

HOW'S THAT? QUESTION MY REASONIN'. WHAT ISSUES?

KRYPTIC FLOWS,
YOU STRESSED, "aye basically this thread pissed me off alot,"

I WONDER WHY? LOL

THEN YOU STRESSED, "for one, you misunderstood alot that i stated probly due to the fact i wasnt statin my opinions in the usual form i do because of the anger and ill fess up to that."

I DIDN'T MISUNDA-STAND A DAMN THANg. YOUR EMOTIONS SAID IT ALL. LOL

THEN YOU STRESSED, "i wasnt callin my parents the insecure ignorant bitches i was sayin that to you"

A BIggER MISTAKE, WHICH I KNOW YOU WOULDN'T DO FACE TO FACE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "the whole idea of stating that you sound like my parents, is, their generation pretty much had no choice but to think like they did because of how society was, and for you to sound the same is degenerative."

FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
YOU THE ONE PERCEIVIN' ME FROM YOUR PARENTS gENERATION. IT AIN'T MY FAULT THAT THIS SOCIETY LOOKS DOWN ON THE BLAK MAN AND BEEN LOOKIN' DOWN ON THE BLAK MAN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU gOT WHITEBOYS EMULATIN' AND THE OLDA gENERATION HATIN'. TAKE THAT SHIT UP WITH YOUR POPS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "you said that thats coo to act how i want and do what i want but someday somebodys gonna "test me"?"

I SHO' DID.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "do you think all white people live in a box?"

NOT ALL. BUT A LOT. AND EVEN SOME THAT ARE HIP ARE STILL CLUELESS.


THEN YOU STRESSED, "i kno how this world works, puttin myself out there as tough and wearin the clothes i do and watever im ready to "be tested", you talk like all black people that talk and act hard scare the shit out of white people, it may be like that where you live but what in the fuck is so scary about black people?

THEN IF YOU KNOW THEN ACT LIKE IT. BUT WHO SAID N-E-THANg ABOUT BLAK PEOPLE BEIN' SCARY? LOL YOUR FAMILY MUST'VE TRIED TO SCARE YOU OR SAMETHIN'.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "and the statements in this thread that you have made are worthless, theyre ignorant, thats just like someone saying" well black people are all broke and cheat on their wives" you just sound racist and prejudice to all white people and i hate racists and prejudice people no matter what color they are and who they hate on. "

HOW IS THAT? WHAT STATEMENTS? gET SPECIFIC AND TALK ON THE ISSUES INSTEAD OF ACCUSIN' ME. IT AIN'T NO LIKE, "well black people are all broke and cheat on their wives" CAUSE NOBODY SAID NOTHIN ABOUT "ALL" AND I AIN'T JUDgIN' NO ONE. I'M ASKIN' QUESTIONS AND CHOPPIN' IT UP WITH DIFFERENT FOLKS ON THEY PERCEPTION OF THE QUESTION POSED. I HAVEN'T EVEN BEgUN TO gIVE MY 51 CENT ON MY PERCEPTION OF THE TOPIC AT HAND.

THEN YOU STRESSED, ". so you making a thread called "degreez of wiggaism" is the same as someone making a thread called "degreez of niggerism" watever the fuck that is you get the point, its gunna offend people"

WHY IT gOTTA BE "NIggERISM" INSTEAD OF NIggA-ISM? YEAH, I SEE. TALK ABOUT OFFENDIN' PEOPLE. BUT AFRIKA SPOKE UP ON IT BEFORE LIKE HE STRESSED.

SO WHAT WENT ON IN THAT THREAD AFRIKA? WHAT IS NIgga-ISM FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE?

THE RIPPA,
YOU STRESSED, "thats the same way i am"

DO YOU FRONT ON THEM? LET THEM BE? OR DO THEY FEEL THEY gOT AS MUCH RIgHT AS YOU?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "being raised around mostly whites, i think i can safely assume that at least 70% of them are biased against blacks in some form or another"

LADIES AND gENTLEMEN, I HAVE ME A CREDIBLE SOURCE NOW. YOU'RE WELCOMED TO COME TO N-E OF MY POSTS AND BAK ME WITH FACTS SINCE SOME FEEL I SPEAK OUT MY ASS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "ok i gotcha. i thought you meant if some guy just liked rock and roll, then hes being a sellout. i see what you mean. i can agree with your statement.

THAT LOgIC CAN ALSO APPLY TO SOMEBODY THAT gETS INTO PRE-DOMINANT ANgLO SUBCULTURE AND DOWNS HIS OWN.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "not really. i say go if you like, but just be yourself. they dont have to act hard because they are suddenly surrounded by black folk. most people would see right thru that anyways."

SO YOU SAYIN' MOST WHITEBOYS TRY TO FRONT WHEN THEY PUT IN THAT SITUATION?

XIANEX,
YOU STRESSED, "what about the white dude that co-founded def jam (Ruben i think). and the Cohen dude thats running defjam???

WIggAS FROM WAYWAK. LOL. THEY SOME COO WHITEBOYS THAT'S DOWN FOR BLAK FOLK AND THE CULTURE. BUT THAT DON'T SAY EVERYTHANg ABOUT THEM ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "they white but they get love like they are niggas."

DO YOU KNOW THAT ON A PERSONAL LEVEL?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "are THEY wiggas?"

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL THEM.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "should THEY not represent."
REPRESENT WHAT? ARE THEY BANgIN'? HAVE A FRO WITH A BLAK FIST? WHAT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "are THEY watering down our culture??????"
IF THEY WAS TO HAVE MORE WHITE gROUPS THAT TWIST RAP WITH ALL KIND OF EUROCENTRIC BULLSHIT AND LEAVE NIggAS OUT, YES. BUT IN ACTUALITY THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT, SO, NO. BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ROLE THEY PLAY IN THE MUSIC AND (SUB)CULTURE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "EDJ. I don't see your reasoning."

WHAT REASONIN'? I HAVEN'T BEgUN TO STRESS MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE ON THE MATTER. SO WHAT ARE YOU REFERRIN' TO? IF YOU TALKIN' BOUT MY ANSWERS TO YOUR COMMENTS THEN QUOTE ME AND ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY STRESS WHAT I STRESSED.


THEN YOU STRESSED, "are you saying that whites should not be involved with black culture at all???"

NAW, I DIDN'T SAY THAT. I'M SAYIN' IF YOU DOWN WITH IT THEN STAY DOWN WITH IT AND BE TRUE TO IT. DON'T TREAT THE SHIT AS A TREND OR A FAD. DON'T FRONT. CAUSE IF YOU UTTERIN' THE "N" WORD, AIN'T NO gOIN' BAK. YOU SAID IT AND YOU MADE A COMMITMENT. BUT SEE, I KNOW MOST WHITEBOYS AIN'T DOWN LIKE THAT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "if you are that's kinda (if not very) ignorant considering that they either purposefully or unwittingly caused our culture in the first place.

Think about it."

MAN, YOU AIN'T THE FIRST TO TRY TO BRINg UP RIK RUBE AND YOU PROBABLY WON'T BE THE LAST. BUT HE AIN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR MY CULTURE CAUSE I WAS RAPPIN' BEFORE I EVEN HEARD OF RUN D.M.C. YOU ACT LIKE THEY WAS THE ONLY NIggAS RAPPIN' AND RIK RUBE WAS THE gODFATHER OF IT ALL. RAP WOULD OF IT MADE IT TO THE MAINSTREAM WITH OR WITHOUT CUZZ. THE ONLY THANg I CREDIT CUZZ IS FOR MIXXIN' RAP WITH ROK AND APPEALIN' IT TO MORE MAINSTREAM MASSES.
 

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NITRO,
YOU STRESSED, "Tell that to someone who thinks white people invented rap. The Beastie Boys were making rap music in the 80's, which was before it was a known part of any culture. I stand by what I said."

BULLSHIT. RAP HAS ALWAYS BEEN URBAN. THE BEASTIE BOYS ARE LUKY TO EVEN HAD THE CONNECTS THEY HAD, LIKE RIK RUBE AND RUSSELL SIMMONS(AND RUSS'S BROTHA WHO WAS ALSO THE BEASTIE BOYS PRODUCER AND PART OF THE "AFRO'S").

YOU STRESSED, "First of all, I never said or implied any "fuck rap" mentality."

RAP CD'S COLLECTIN' DUST IS IMPLYIN' SOMETHIN'. DON'T LISTEN TO RAP NO MORE IS IMPLYIN' SOMETHIN'.

YOU STRESSED, "Secondly, how do you figure I am back to "being me" because I don't listen to it as much as I used to?"

OH, SO NOW IT'S, "NOT AS MUCH AS I USED TO" AS OPPOSED TO "I DON'T LISTEN TO RAP N-E-MORE"?

YOU STRESSED, "People change in time, I didn't revert back to being anything."

YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO RAP AT ONE POINT. AND YOU SAID BY YOUR POST YOU DON'T LISTEN TO RAP NO MORE.

YOU STRESSED, ". I still listen to rap music, just not as much as I used to."

SWITCH IT ON UP THEN.

YOU STRESSED, "Why? Mainly because I like the older style of rap music such as Rappin Ron & Ant Diddly Dog, Early-Mac Dre, Mall, Lynch etc."

gOOD TO HEAR YOU LIKED THAT NORTHERN CALI SHIT.

YOU STRESSED, "I had struggled in recent years finding anything that appealed to me the same way those artists did back in the day. Alot of the material I bought recently didn't satisfy me other then maybe a few songs on an entire album."

YEAH, THE SHIT COMIN' OUT THE BAY AND THE REST OF NORTHERN CALI AIN'T WHAT IT USED TO. MUTHA-FUKAS FLIPPED THEY SCRIPT AND A LOT BECAME FOLLOWERS.

YOU STRESSED, "I'm questioning your statement though. You said "THAT RIgHT THERE SOUND LIKE A WIggA TO ME" and I am asking you if you think because a white person listens to rap, that they are a "wigga". I do NOT think that statement is true."

NO I FEEL THAT N-E-BODY THAT WAS NEVA INVOLVED IN PREDOMINANT NUBIAN SUBCULTURE AND THEN CAME IN AND THEN TREAT THE SHIT AS A TREND OR A FAD IS ONE. IF YOU IN, THEN STAY IN. FUK THAT FLIP-FLOP SHIT.

YOU STRESSED, "By "ROK" I assume your talking about baseball."

AND YOUR ASSUMPTION IS INCORRECT. BY ROK I MEAN ROK MUSIC(ROK AND ROLL).

YOU STRESSED, "How do you know it was invented by black people?"

ROK N ROLL WAS CAUSE ELVIS gOT INFLUENCED AND TRY TO gET CREDIT THAT WASN'T HIS. BASEBALL, I WASN'T SPEAKIN' ON THAT.

YOU STRESSED, "What is your proof, did you read some article or book written by an "black" person where it stated they invented it?"

READ ABOVE WITH YOUR ASSUMPTIVE ASS.

YOU STRESSED, "What does that have to do with another race involving themselves into a part of another culture."

CAUSE NOW IT'S PART OF BLAK CULTURE AND IS A BOND WE SHARE WITH YAW WHITE PEOPLE SINCE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU OWN IT.

YOU STRESSED, "The simple fact that "black" people partook in such events is all that matters here."

YEAH, TO MAKE YOUR POINT. BUT THAT AIN'T INTEgRALLY CORRECT. YOU AIN'T LOOKIN' AT THE WHOLE PICTURE. OTHA SHIT MATTERS TOO. NOT JUST WHAT YOU THINK.


YOU STRESSED, "African-Americans are accepted into those sports, they arnt given a stupid name and talked shit upon when they join the NFL."

CAUSE WE TOOK OVER AND CHANgED SHIT AND STILL CHANgIN' SHIT.

YOU STRESSED, "Correct. White people make up for a majority of Rap/Hip-Hop album sales, it's only a matter of time if you ask me. Check Eminem's album sales.."

THAT'S FUCCED UP. AND YOU WANT IT TO HAPPEN DON'T YOU?

YOU STRESSED, "Your way is thinking a white person involving themselves in any part of the african-american culture is a wigger (you implied this by saying I sound like a wigger JUST BECAUSE I listen to rap) and any black person involving themselves in any part of a white culture, it's all good, because you dominated parts of it."

NOT ALL TRUE. WHEN A NIggA JOIN N-ETHANg YOU DEEM AS "WHITE CULTURE", WE STOOD BY IT, gOT OTHA BLAK FOLK LIKIN' IT, DOMINATED IT, AND STILL STAND BY IT. IN YOUR CASE, I DIDN'T SAY YOU WAS A WIggA CAUSE YOU SIMPLY LIKE RAP BUT FOLLOWED RAP AS A TREND OR A FAD INSTEAD OF LOVIN' AND LIVIN' IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I knew you would ask this question, thats why I took the liberty in answering it WAY before you could even ask it. You asked me what I mean by "white culture", you even quoted the answer on the next line"

DON'T gIVE YOURSELF CREDIT. QUIT TRYIN' TO SUK YOUR OWN DIK. I READ ALL YOUR SHIT AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED IT CAUSE YOUR DEFINITION WAS INSUFFICE. BUT I ANSWERED YOUR OTHA SHIT TOO, SO CONCENTRATE ON THAT ONE.

YOU STRESSED, "Already went through a VERY SMALL list. No need to go any further."

WHAT LIST? YOUR SHIT WAS INSUFFICE.

YOU STRESSED, "Who told me that... ummm, the time and date at which it occured maybe?"

NOT THE TIME OR DATE. BUT THAT THEY WAS DOIN' IT BEFORE RAP WAS DEEMED PART OF NUBIAN SUBCULTURE? RAP HAS ALWAYS BEEN URBAN MUSIC DOMINATED BY BLAK FOLK.

YOU STRESSED, "What does the skin color of the person making their beats have to do with anything?"

NOT JUST THE SKIN COLOR, BUT HIS ESSENCE, MENTALITY, AND CULTURALIZATION.

YOU STRESSED, "Well, MOST rap artists are under labels owned by white people, so what does that mean?"

THAT NIggAS NEED TO HAVE THEY OWN LABEL AND QUIT LETTIN' THESE DEVILS TAKE THEY SCRILL AND TELL THEM HOW THEY SHOULD RUN THEY MUSIC.

YOU STRESSED, "No point in going down the food chain, lets stick with the artists at hand, not who are directly around them."

FUK THAT, NIggAS NEED TO START STICCIN' TOgETHA THAT WAY WE HAVE OWNERSHIP IN OUR OWN AND WE WON'T BE PLAYED FOR PUPPETS BY PUPPETEERS.
 
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i don;t hang around wiggas..............................

If I wigga for having black friends, then so be it, but other then music (rap), I talk funny cause I got country in me.....................my neighborhood was all black except three white familys before we moved.............I dress like a whiteboy, my Warfare folks will tell u i'm the biggest white person there is..................can;t be what i'm not.............
 

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@EDJ ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH AFRIKA BAMBAATA AND THE SUGARHILL GANG? THEY WERE PUTTIN DOWN HIP HOP BEFORE THE 80'S

http://entertainment.msn.com/artist/?artist=113721

BE COOL PIMPIN AND WHY DID YOU HANG UP THE OTHER DAY?

:h:

PS THOSE CATS I MENTIONED (JOHN CENA AND GRANDMASTER SEXXAAAAAAAAY) ARE WRESTLERS. THE ONLY THING I KNOW ABOUT JOHNNY IS JOHNNY WALKER BLUE LABEL.
 

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HERESY,
HELL YEAH I KNOW WHO AFRIKA BAMBATAA AND THE SUgAR HILL gANg IS. NIggA gREW UP ON ALL THAT SHIT. BUT I DIDN'T HANg UP. SOMEHOW SOME FUNNY NOISES WERE ON THE PHONE AND YOU KEPT CUTTIN' OFF AND ON. BUT I NEED YOU TO HOLLA AT ME. THIS CUBVASE KICCIN' MY ASS AND I HAVE TO PRINT THE MANUAL ALL OUT.

BUT YOU NEED TO CUT THAT FAKE SHIT(WRESTLIN') OUT. THAT SHIT IS MADE UP DRAMA. I CATCH A gLANCE HERE AND THERE BUT I'LL NEVA INDULgE IN THAT SHIT(LIKE WHEN I WAS A YOUNg CHILD).
BUT THE REASON WHY I BROUgHT JOHNNY WALKER UP IS CAUSE A LOT ARE LABELIN' HIM AS THE BIggEST WIggA THERE EVA WAS FOR THE SIMPLE FACT HE WAS LISTENIN' TO RAP AND THEY FIgURED THAT gAVE HIM THAT, "FUK THE WHITEMAN ATTITUDE" AND THUS STARTED HIS SO CALLED TREASON MISSION.
 
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NO I FEEL THAT N-E-BODY THAT WAS NEVA INVOLVED IN PREDOMINANT NUBIAN SUBCULTURE AND THEN CAME IN AND THEN TREAT THE SHIT AS A TREND OR A FAD IS ONE. IF YOU IN, THEN STAY IN. FUK THAT FLIP-FLOP SHIT.


now i get where you're cmoing from EDJ...and i understand you being pissed now 100%

glad you cleared that up
 
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EDJ said:
BULLSHIT. RAP HAS ALWAYS BEEN URBAN. THE BEASTIE BOYS ARE LUKY TO EVEN HAD THE CONNECTS THEY HAD, LIKE RIK RUBE AND RUSSELL SIMMONS(AND RUSS'S BROTHA WHO WAS ALSO THE BEASTIE BOYS PRODUCER AND PART OF THE "AFRO'S").
I said they were rappin' before it was a KNOWN part of any culture, and I still stand by that. Rick Rube and Simmons were lucky to have them as well, you know how many albums they sold? Probably more then any other rap artist at that time.

EDJ said:
RAP CD'S COLLECTIN' DUST IS IMPLYIN' SOMETHIN'. DON'T LISTEN TO RAP NO MORE IS IMPLYIN' SOMETHIN'.
I never said I didn't listen to rap any more, and if I did, then I take it back. I used past tence when talking about listening to rap music, and I mentioned a "stack of dusty cd's" not because I didn't listen to it anymore, but because it isn't my music of choice right now... and your telling me im being assumptive?

EDJ said:
OH, SO NOW IT'S, "NOT AS MUCH AS I USED TO" AS OPPOSED TO "I DON'T LISTEN TO RAP N-E-MORE"?
Where did I say that I didn't listen to rap anymore? I listen to alot of ROCK music, I have plenty of dusty rock cd's as well...

EDJ said:
YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO RAP AT ONE POINT. AND YOU SAID BY YOUR POST YOU DON'T LISTEN TO RAP NO MORE.
Again, I do not remember saying that I don't listen to rap anymore. If I did, then I take it back, that is not true. Yes, at one point I didn't listen to anything, but 1. I still listen to rap and 2. I listen to other types of music that I didn't listen to before, so no, I didn't revert back to anything. I don't have to be "down" with the african-american culture in order to be a true fan of rap music. There is nothing but negetivity from that type of music anyways, its a poison for every african-american child in this nation, you shouldn't pride yourself so much for supporting and defending it.

EDJ said:
NO I FEEL THAT N-E-BODY THAT WAS NEVA INVOLVED IN PREDOMINANT NUBIAN SUBCULTURE AND THEN CAME IN AND THEN TREAT THE SHIT AS A TREND OR A FAD IS ONE. IF YOU IN, THEN STAY IN. FUK THAT FLIP-FLOP SHIT.
I can't help it if the music doesn't appeal to me as much as it used to. I don't go out of my way to be down with any type of culture, not white nor black. I just live my life, listen to what I like, and do what I enjoy.

EDJ said:
CAUSE NOW IT'S PART OF BLAK CULTURE AND IS A BOND WE SHARE WITH YAW WHITE PEOPLE SINCE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU OWN IT.
Isn't it great that we can share something as big as this?

EDJ said:
CAUSE WE TOOK OVER AND CHANgED SHIT AND STILL CHANgIN' SHIT.
Why would you get a big head over something like this? Talkin about you took over and your still changing it. Who do you think drafted you, teaches you, and owns the team you play on? You havent taken shit over, your just being exploited, right HERSEY? Anyways, that wasn't a very nice way of replying to me, because now it seems as though you think white people have to dominate rap in order not to get shit-treatment from you guys just for involving themselves. Why don't you accept them, feel good about another race being passionate about parts of your culture, help them and accept them like it was basketball, which is a "bond we share".

EDJ said:
THAT'S FUCCED UP. AND YOU WANT IT TO HAPPEN DON'T YOU?
Nah, I don't want it to happen. A million eminem's running around doesn't sound like fun. If we did take over, I wouldn't be on a message board telling people we dominated it and are changing the game. I would accept it as a part of both cultures.

EDJ said:
NOT ALL TRUE. WHEN A NIggA JOIN N-ETHANg YOU DEEM AS "WHITE CULTURE", WE STOOD BY IT, gOT OTHA BLAK FOLK LIKIN' IT, DOMINATED IT, AND STILL STAND BY IT. IN YOUR CASE, I DIDN'T SAY YOU WAS A WIggA CAUSE YOU SIMPLY LIKE RAP BUT FOLLOWED RAP AS A TREND OR A FAD INSTEAD OF LOVIN' AND LIVIN' IT.
Did I not just tell you that I didn't listen to rap because of a trend, but that the music appealed to me and I enjoyed the sound of it? I don't have to listen to it forever in order to have not been a wigga, thats your own made up rule. I don't listen to any music for any other reasons then how it appealed to me or made me feel. Never did the thought of what culture it came from process in my mind. I listen to what I like, and thats all their is to it. If im a wigga because i used to listen to rap, yet don't anymore, then what do you call an african who doesn't listen to rap like they used to.

EDJ said:
NOT THE TIME OR DATE. BUT THAT THEY WAS DOIN' IT BEFORE RAP WAS DEEMED PART OF NUBIAN SUBCULTURE? RAP HAS ALWAYS BEEN URBAN MUSIC DOMINATED BY BLAK FOLK.
Don't ask me what I meant, go read exactly what I typed. I don't need to repeat myself. Read the first part of this reply.

EDJ said:
NOT JUST THE SKIN COLOR, BUT HIS ESSENCE, MENTALITY, AND CULTURALIZATION.
That still has nothing to do with anything. The Beastie Boys were making rap music in the 80's, thats it.

EDJ said:
THAT NIggAS NEED TO HAVE THEY OWN LABEL AND QUIT LETTIN' THESE DEVILS TAKE THEY SCRILL AND TELL THEM HOW THEY SHOULD RUN THEY MUSIC.
Did you just refer to white people as "Devils"? The true EDJ has just come out, you fucking racist.

EDJ said:
FUK THAT, NIggAS NEED TO START STICCIN' TOgETHA THAT WAY WE HAVE OWNERSHIP IN OUR OWN AND WE WON'T BE PLAYED FOR PUPPETS BY PUPPETEERS.
Yea, fuck the white man, just look out for yourselves. Preach on about how your getting fucked over by every white man, but by all means posses the mentality to leave him out when furthering your own success.
 

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Who do you think drafted you, teaches you, and owns the team you play on? You havent taken shit over, your just being exploited, right HERSEY?
I DONT KNOW IF YOU MEANT HERESY BUT IF YOU DID PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING ME IN YOUR DISCUSSION. I ASK THIS SO THE THREAD CAN STAY ON POINT AND NOT BE SIDETRACKED.

I ASK THIS OUT OF RESPECT. BALL IS IN YOUR COURT.


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