Deangelo Hall to the Raiders?

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^Then what's the point of using metrics? You said Pacman was a shutdown corner based on metrics but then you say "The very top cb's of the leage are not measured by metrics"???? huh? WTF?

so your saying there is only 5 or so shutdown corners in the leauge......id say atleast the top 10 corners in the leauge are all shutdown corners....but thats just an opinion.....if you say that only the ones that cant be measured by metrics are shutdown corners then your franchise just REALLY fucked up...i cant help you anymore tony........you get exactly what im saying your just trying to pick word for word how im wrong....i have the stats, compelte break down of exactly what dbs did that year and you have......your opinion.....ill leave it at that :ermm:
 

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New man crush? LOL.. Don't be a hypocrite. You were the only one on this board that came to Pac-man's defense (every time he got jacked by the police) like you were his lawyer. So miss me with the man crush bs. He wasn't even on the field long enough to cover the best WR's and you're calling him a shutdown corner? The only thing he shut down was a few strip clubs... that's it.
 
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pacman may be known for stripclubs but id rather be known for stripclubs then gettin spit in the face and only crying about it....atleast my boy has some dignity!!! and he got burnt for another td after that happend!!!!
 

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pacman may be known for stripclubs but id rather be known for stripclubs then gettin spit in the face and only crying about it....atleast my boy has some dignity!!! and he got burnt for another td after that happend!!!!
LOL @ "at least my boy has some dignity"... you're getting funnier by the post. Is this the same boy that beat up a stripper? The same boy who bit a police officer? The same boy who told the commisioner he would stop going to strip clubs only to be seen at one hours before he met with the commisioner?
 

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I guess you're right... you're boy does have more dignity. I guess it's better to "spit" on rather than getting spit on right. Remember the indicent at the club when Pacman spit on a woman? He went from spitting at women, to beating up women and then to getting people shot up. So much for having dignity huh...
 
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that whore took his wallet......shit here you wouldnt get spit on youd get handled...

no one ever proved he got people shot up....he was never charged with any thing of that sort so if you have the evidence to convict him of that shit maybe you should be a good boy and give that to the LVPD...

and when did he beat up a woman? or are you just assuming
 

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no one ever proved he got people shot up....he was never charged with any thing of that sort so if you have the evidence to convict him of that shit maybe you should be a good boy and give that to the LVPD...
Suspended Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones is prepared to take a plea deal that will get him probation in a Las Vegas strip club triple shooting in an attempt to salvage his career.

Under the written plea agreement obtained by The Associated Press, Jones intends to plead no contest to one charge of conspiracy to commit disorderly conduct, a gross misdemeanor, in return for a promise to suspend a sentence of one year in county jail.
 
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do you know what the plea deal consisted of? cuz its not there.....had nothing to do with the shooting itself..because if they connected him with the shooting he would be in prison you lame.......good try though.......
 

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do you know what the plea deal consisted of? cuz its not there.....had nothing to do with the shooting itself..because if they connected him with the shooting he would be in prison you lame.......good try though.......
He was on his way to doing time until he accepted a plea deal... you know like the dudes who ratted out Vick?

"A judge accepted a plea deal Thursday reducing felony charges against suspended NFL player Adam "Pacman" Jones to a gross misdemeanor that will get him probation in return for his testimony about a strip club triple shooting."

Ha... your boy is turning "snitch"... so much for having dignity huh.

Now let's try this again... back to DeAngelo Hall and the Raiders.
 
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After the whole Moss to oakland thing, I wont make any judgements. I just hope it all works out and hall plays up to his potential.
The Raiders were also interested (before Hall trade) in trading for Pacman too. On paper a secondary of Pacman, Asomugha, and Hall. I dont know who would play in the nickle but such problems would be good to have.
 

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of course after his injury plagued season everyone is going to start sayin people who put up numbers are better, but you or no one else can deny that when marvin harrison was healthy and during peytons 49 td season that everyone wasnt saying marvin harrison wasnt the best wide out in the leauge......maybe you were to busy following who ever you were following back then....lord knows how many teams youve had even since ive been here.....when pacman was playing, marvin harrison was the best wide out in the leauge......i dont care all these links you show me.....people KNEW it back then...when moss was in oakland he wouldnt of made an article for best wideout in the leauge period...get over it your not proving nothing to me...and i thought you were crying about getting on topic about deanglelo hall....
 

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Don't blame injuries for the reason Marvin Harrison isn't being recognized as the best wide receiver in the game. T.O. was injured and still considered the best or one of the best. Steve Smith had an off year and he still was mentioned. You said all of the NFL gurus say Marvin Harrison is the best but I've shown you two links that had gurus talking about the best receivers and they didn't even mention Marvin Harrison as "The" best.

And I've had two teams since I've been on this site... so don't act dumb.

"When Pac-Man was playing Marvin Harrison was the best wide-out in the league" LOL... you're just saying that so you could say your boy faced the best wide receiver in the leage. You're a funny cat.
 
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t.o. produced, in the how many games he was injured? bad example.....t.o. is one of the best...like i said because marvin harrison was injured this season people are going to forget about him....he missed almost an entire season unlike t.o. or randy moss ever did, find me the some best wide out in leauge last year or the year before, he was the best back then, up untill he got injured.


like i said werent you crying about gettin back on topic? im not enjoying this bickering with you. your a bandwagon fan ethier way