Moss has been playing since 1998 and has 124 TD's.
Harrison has been playing since 1996 and has 123 TD's.
T.O. has been playing since 1996 also and has 129 TD's.
Harrison has benefited from having played with Peyton Manning for most of his career. T.O. and Moss have played with different Qb's and they still have more TD receptions than Harrison (who you and the gurus say is the best wide receiver in the NFL) LOL
Like I said Moss or T.O. is the best receiver in the game and that's a fact not an opinion from a lousy fan.
Harrison doesn't have they attitude. and he's more consistent then those players have been. not saying he;'s better just understanding why people think it
the topic wasnt even about harrison it was about hall being terribly overrated just because hall has a mouth....he will be a good number 2 for a year then after aso goes he will be burnt just like in atlanta....
the topic wasnt even about harrison it was about hall being terribly overrated just because hall has a mouth....he will be a good number 2 for a year then after aso goes he will be burnt just like in atlanta....
are you sure about that? i doubt he goes for a lesser deal then DHALL got and you cant afford TWO 10 million a year CBs......dont you have WAY more pressing needs like a OL and DTs and some RBs?
its not practical and if the raiders DO keep aso long term ill eat my words but its unlikely
WE DON'T NEED RB'S. ALL THE OTHER POSITIONS WILL BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE DRAFT AND SINCE WHEN HAVE THE RAIDERS BEEN PRACTICAL? YOU WILL EAT YOUR WORDS. AL WILL NOT LET NNAMDI GO.
HE WILL PROBABLY BE SIGNED TO A LONG TERM DEAL BEFORE TRAINING CAMP.
No I wouldn't say the same about Jerry Rice because he's the greatest of all time.... Rice was scoring TD's with Elvis Grbac throwing him the ball.
You don't have to like the logic but to say Marvin Harrison is the best receiver in the NFL is stretching it a bit. He's one of the best but not the best. Physical Db's usually have their way with him and take him out of the game. T.O. or Moss is the best receiver right now!
because tony had a smart lil comment like "my guy is better then your guy"...you know childish shit, so i decided to show him the only proof there is and he choose not to accept it :hurt:
I find it funny how you call it childish when you were the one who brought up Pac-man/metrics numbers first.
And there ain't no proof in metrics. To me that means more qb's are throwing his way because he can't cover. I don't care about metrics. If he (Pac-man) was a shutdown corner like you claim he is then balls wouldn't be thrown in his direction.
you only have to have 30 passes thrown your way to be in the metrics catargory........DHALL was and is in that catargory every year of his career.....i mentioned that allready.....
only the 3-5 of the top corners in the NFL are not in the metrics catagory........and we can all pretty much name em of the top of our heads year in and year out......sorry but dhall has never been in that catagory so it doesnt do you in justice bringing that shit up....
so what your saying is there is only 5 true shutdown corners in the nfl? what does that make the rest of em like lito sheppard, nate clements, asante samuel.....
So what if 30 passes aren't thrown your way? Where Champ Bailey at then? Shut down corners don't have passes thrown their way often. Who has Pac-Man shutdown that makes him so good in your eyes?
I would like to see him matched up against some of the best receivers (T.O., Chad, Moss, Harrison, Holt) in the NFL in man coverage before I call him a shutdown corner.
So what if 30 passes aren't thrown your way? Where Champ Bailey at then? Shut down corners don't have passes thrown their way often. Who has Pac-Man shutdown that makes him so good in your eyes?
do you not process what your saying......you cant have metrics if there isnt 30 passes thrown your way.....the very top cbs of the leauge are not measured by metrics.....one more time for you tony.....THE VERY TOP CBS OF THE LEAUGE ARE NOT MEASURED BY METRICS......ALL THE REST ARE.......
thats the thing im not talkin about stats im talkin metrics.....pacman the last year he played was #2 in metrics with the 2nd WORST pass rush in football...miss me with the bullshit when i type somethin up i know what im talkin about.....i dont type of random nothiness for the sake of doing it
^Then what's the point of using metrics? You said Pacman was a shutdown corner based on metrics but then you say "The very top cb's of the leage are not measured by metrics"???? huh? WTF?
oh word, my mistake still doesnt prove anything about your new man crush with dhall...hes not one of the best that arent measured so you sayin that its bullshit just cuz a certain few arent dont mean shit.......get it?.......good.....