559_Soldado said:
your taking this shit way to seriously pal, cause you know what type of people are gonna buy this record? Middle american White kids.
He asked people to respond to the integrity of the video itself, not how "tight" that shit was. So I gave my two cents. I'm not saying this will make people racist like WHITE ARYAN is saying (to get respect back from those who pulled his aryan card), I'm saying that, if you look into the mind of a white supremacist, you will probably find that he/she is reinforcing his beliefs based on images like this. Can you tell me why they portrayed a white family like this? Why did they make the family look as *happy* and *innocent* as possible.. Why didn't they used some skinheads or rednecks (who are more involved with the system) to make the video? What are they trying to say with this? I have seen so many occasions where whites are criticized not only on this message board, but in real life for *PETTY* shit, and they make this video and people are laughing, justifying it, and saying it's "hella tight", and you're asking me why I see something wrong with it? Think about that for a minute.
2-0-Sixx said:
The song is about fighting the system. They are against Capitalism, they are against the Government. They have socialist views.
Who cares if they robbed a white family? What difference does it make if the family was white, asian, mexican or black? The simple fact is their message is to fight the system...take from the system. They are revolutionaries. Their views are not much different then the Black Panthers or Malcom X.
Remember EDJ's revolution thread? I'm sure we both agree that a revolution will not occur unless the people unite and fight. That's what they are about. Whether or not you agree with them is beside the point. They're message is a lot deeper then "robbing that innocent white family."
Now you can go ahead and reply with your gay comments and call me the biggest dp fan or whatever. Just remember, I have not purchased one of their albums. I thought their last album sucked. I disagree with a bunch of shit that they have said in the past, but at the same time I agree with a lot of their shit. They have songs about eating healthy, getting to know a woman before sex, physical training, mental training and a lot of other positive shit. Yes, this particular song is violent, but this is a violent world, and a lot of people agree that violence is necessary for change.
In accordance with your paragraphs:
1. What does a white family taking pictures in a park eating hotdogs have to do with the system they are fighting? These are civilians that live under this capitalist ruling without any say in how it is controled. You may say that they represent the "white devil" that created the very system they rebel against, and if you were to say that, then I feel confident that I did not over-react. If you will look back and read through SOLO's posts (look up "never white" in the search engine) and you will find (this is something that is *REAL* and I strongly agree with) that there is a seperation between WHITE people (the global elite, racist, white supremacist, prejudice, the *SYSTEM*) and those who are innocent and bear the same color skin. What I'm trying to tell you is that, although they may be representing a fight against the system, it is without a doubt targeted at the wrong people. If a bunch of rednecks made a video robbing an innocent black family, and I told you they were doing it to represent a hatred for black murderers and racists, wouldn't you be scratching you're head? This all may sound confusing and rather pointless to you, but that is only because no other "white" person you have ever met has brought up these kind of issues. It is all new to you and this board and that is why it is being questioned.
2. It doesn't matter that the family is white. I only talked about "whiteness" because they are all under that stereotype. I understand they are representing a fight against the system, read above for more info on that. It is simply targeted at the wrong people. Because it is so blatantly targeted at the wrong people, I made a comment about them trying to gain attention.
3. I understand they have a message. I'm asking you what is the relevance of *THIS* white family inparticular, and the system they are rebelling against.
4. What did you burn all of their shit? LOL. I'm not bashing you because you're a fan. I have honestly heard songs from this group, and I really thought it was a person with others featured on different songs. I have even read through the lyrics of some of their material that I haven't even heard, long before this thread was even made. I did this because I know *of* them and what they represent, so I read what they had to say. That is what I based my statements on.
I understand what they might be "trying" to say, but they are using the wrong language. Who cares that they robbed a white family? You know what, I don't know who cares. I'm talking about the way they portrayed this family. They didn't just take a white man and women, throw in a couple of kids and rob them in a video. They took this "family", put them in a park taking pictures, eating hotdogs, looking at shuttles, trying to find there way to the next amusement, and they get robbed by a group of black folks. This played out for over a minute-twenty. That family has absolutely nothing to do with what they are against and that is the bottom line.
WHITE DEVIL said:
Yes, and now they're all going to rob themselves, causing a huge drop in the stock market. You know what gregarious spendors kids these days are.
Man hasn't you're card been pulled already.. so shut the fuck up Adolf.
@EVERYONE: If he would have asked me to comment on this song, I would have gave it props and left the thread alone. But he asked for peoples comments on the video, and I gave my opnion. There is nothing "tight" or "right" about the intro to that video, and if you think there is, then you need to keep your mouth shut about your position in life. Peace.