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DJ Coma said:
Deny it all you want but in this business presentation is EVERYTHING. I know little about the music industry compared to others but I can tell you that much is damn near a fact. Presentation is everything in the business world as a whole as well.
OK friend, Now i am going to tell YOU something: Internet presentation....DON'T MEAN SHIT.

On the internet, EVERYONE is different. I can say with confidence that NONE OF US grew up using a keyboard since day one or using the internet since they first learned how to communicate. Therefore, attitudes WILL CHANGE! This much is KNOWN and WIDELY ACCEPTED.

THEREFORE, it is IMPERATIVE that, before you finalize your opinion about someone, that you either TALK TO THEM ON THE PHONE, or MEET THEM IN PERSON. If you have not done these things, you CANNOT speak with authority on someone.

Anyone who HAS met with me in person or talked to me on the phone, KNOWS that my presentation is picture perfect. I speak on things, and I don't stutter or sound hesitant: what i say makes sense, whether I'm making it up on the fly or otherwise. This much NEEDS BE REALIZED.

As for my ideas, Im not saying I got better ones than you or that I am even thinking of ideas like you are. I'm saying if I were to put an idea out there I guarantee it would garner a bigger following just because I wouldn't find it necessary to be a dick when I put it out there.
Don't care about following. What matters is follow-ups. If people don't read my ideas and want to follow up by e-mail or private message (without me telling them to) to see if i'm serious, then fuck 'em. They can go fuck themselves.

My ideas are fire, and that much is not open to argument. I am the number one idea man in this entire forum, and nobody has the guts to challenge me. THIS MUCH is why my presentation is meaningless: whether you whine or applaud, I still get my point across.

And BTW that analogy could be used just as easy for business or for an art. You can call scratching subjective art but business lans are also subjective. Not everybody runs their business the same way or agrees with how others run their businesses.
Art is wholly subjective. If i say to scratch this way or that, there is no one person who could definitively judge if that difference has made you a "better" artist.

Business is not wholly subjective. It has figures and other measures that can be looked at and analyzed. You can implement a plan, and then compare before and after to see if you have improved or gotten worse.

Let's just stop there. Either think of another example, or leave it alone. This is a dead end.

About your idea, nowhere did I say your ideas are bad, I even said I think you have things to offer, I just said that you come off like a piece of shit. Just because in one case you said some shit in a normal manner doesn't mean anything for the tons of other posts where you are negative.
A Negatively-Conveyed Idea...yeah, thats a good one. I like that. Lets all hold hands and cry about the fact that I'm not fully accepting and happy with the fact that the NorthWest is not getting its due, and we have a bunch of hippie ass, "golden rule"-following pussies to thank for it. Lets all be sad that all my ideas don't sound like they're coming from a fuckin' Motivational Speaker.

Friend, the ideas themselves are solid. I don't know how many more times i have to say this. And if the ideas are solid, then I don't give a fuck what you think about me as a person, especially if you ain't saying shit to me outside of the internet. That's just how I roll.

I will revert back to your first reply in this very topic for a great example of you acting like an arrogant know it all.

[sarcastic post]

There, that's you being a complete asshole for no reason.
Friend, the reason was to throw it back in people like YOU's faces that my record sales don't have SHIT to do with, in this case, vidcapping and uploading TV shows. It took me being a facetious asshole (with a VERY good reason) to make that point.

Funny you don't mention the assist that homeboy threw me. He knew what i was getting at.

Don't even begin to tell me you couldn't have brought that exact same idea up like this instead:

"Cool Nutz, I think it would be a good idea if you were to upload this interview to the internet for us all to see or press it up on DVD-R's and sell them for cost plus shipping so that us outside of Portland that want to can get a chance to see this."
I didn't need to say it like that in the then-current context of the forum. You seem to forget: the 100k thread and this one aren't in 2 paralell universes, they are one and the same.

The fact that Kalyn would even have to ASK if someone had taped it is proof-positive this region don't have shit going for itself. The MINUTE Nutz made this thread, someone should have jumped in and offered to video tape it and send it to _____ to vidcap and upload. -- THEN Nutz could have jumped in and said, "We already have this taken care of. But thank you for your offer."

THIS, combined with the 100k thread, resulted in my reply. How you can continue to not see this, and act like I said it just to be saying it without any reason or provocation.....just proves you aren't about anything but spinning, and doing other people's dirty work.

Being respectful here in no way makes you a tool or a yes-man. It makes you get respect back like it does in real life. And if you are respectful to somebody and they don't give it back then fuck them they don't deserve your time. Sometimes you need to be assertive but you can also do that in a respectful way. And because how this industry works, especially hip-hop, if you are continually disrespectful there is a great chance that you will do it to the wrong person and end up with your face kicked in. END OF STORY.
Sounds like the words of someone who has gotten their face kicked in for being a smart-ass little fuck.

Contrary to popular belief , fist-fights don't often come from internet arguments unless the intention is CONFIRMED once the two parties meet in person.

Me personally, I don't have that problem. When you talk to me on the phone, you know I am about my shit. When you see me in person and I've got a notebook on me and can map everything out and write you figures right then and there, you know this is serious.

When its on the internet, where people have this idiotic thought process: "I saw the idea on the internet, it must not be possible." -- Combine this with "If i didn't think of it first, it isn't worth thinking of", and you have a deadly combination that leads to nothing but hate, envy and apathy.

To know me is to love me. I am sorry, but this is just the way it is. The thing you need to understand is that I have more support outside of the internet than you would like to believe. But there is a certain game face that people have to keep on here, and as so long as I'm not jumping on here saying "____ is such a fake! I just seen him in Tacoma, and he bitched out!"--then they will keep on doing what they have always done: showing me with the same reverence that I have shown them.
 
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TheTimeMachine said:
you don't make music, you dont do shit, you just hate...ur just a bitch critic that is all hype and type...there's cats networking on these boards makin moves and makin progress and you just sittin there like a bitch, debatin and criticizin, you ain't doin shit...im not going to get into one of your gay little rap debates that u get off on... so ill just leave it at that...patna
Champion...You've been ACTIVELY trying to do shit, and I did stuff 2 years back for a few month period that done already passed you and then some.

You're a self-proclaimed producer who can't even make remixes without the vocal track sliding off the beat. That speaks for itself.

Figure out how to mix a fuckin 92 verse on a 95 beat, and maybe you'll get some respect. Until then.....don't even bother asking. Its sad you got a dude who don't even like producing that gotta tell you how to get your shit correct.
 
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You are comedy saying that internet presentation doesn't matter. If I want to network with an artist on the Siccness I am not going to be a prick to them for no reason because they won't fuck with me, and rightfully so. You say you want to do a TV show and an internet site for the NW, which is awesome because it isn't really being done. But honestly, right now what do you think the chances of Cool Nutz or Bosko, the biggest acts in the NW right now, to fuck with your show or site? I would say they are VERY little and the reason is because of your utter disrespect on the internet.

If I can't take you serious on the internet, where you have the time to edit everything you want to say, then I sure as hell am not going to take you serious in person. Yes the internet is different from in person but it's a networking tool just like the phone or meeting somebody at a show is. The Siccness isn't an AOL chat room where you can hide behind a computer and not have to worry about the outcome of your actions because you will never meet these people. It's a community where people on here WILL end up meeting each other if they are serious about this shit.

The old saying first impressions are never forgotten is definitely true. You think just because I meet you in person or talk to you on the phone and you are different than on the internet that I am going to forget about all the unecessary shit talking that you have done to me and others on this forum? FUCK NO! I will probably hate you more because you cant keep the same bitch attitude you have in person that you portray on the internet. If you are so good in person, why do you have to change and not be like that when you are on the net? It doesn't make sense to just be a dick out of nowhere.

Sounds like the words of someone who has gotten their face kicked in for being a smart-ass little fuck.
Smart-ass little fuck? Nah you just described yourself dumb fuck. I said that because I've seen people like you get their ass kicked over acting like that.

The thing you need to understand is that I have more support outside of the internet than you would like to believe.
Well who are they and do they even matter? Are they just some hicks from Aberdeen? Or are they actually factors in the game?

When you see me in person and I've got a notebook on me and can map everything out and write you figures right then and there, you know this is serious.
Notebooks aren't very good at blocking punches.

Until you change your demeanor, I am done with this pointless, time-wasting arguing with you. Until then I will not take ANYTHING you do or say seriously. I will end with a classic quote that fits you to a tee, because right now you are 200% talk. "DONT TALK ABOUT IT, BE ABOUT IT!"
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
Champion...You've been ACTIVELY trying to do shit, and I did stuff 2 years back for a few month period that done already passed you and then some.
POINDEXTER...THEN LETS HEAR SOME OF THAT SHIT, THAT U AIN'T GOT...AIN'T NO ONE HEARD UR MUSIC...I NEVER SEEN YOU ONCE POST ANY OF YOUR MUSIC UP HERE...EVERY POST I SEE COMING FROM U IS BULLSHIT...UR JUST A LITTLE HYPE FAGGET WHO KNOWS HOW TO TYPE ON A COMPUTER AND NOTHING MORE LIKE I SAID UR JUST A BITCH CRITIC WHO AIN'T DONE SHIT...FUCK THAT REMIX THAT SHIT IS OLD, I DID THAT SHIT LIKE 2 YEARS AGO...'TALK TALK TALK'... I'VE DONE WAY MORE THAN UR ASS AND ALL U DOIN IS FANTASIZIN AND DEBATIN LIKE A BITCH DICK RIDIN FAG THAT YOU ARE...WEAK MUTHERFUCKERS LIKE U THAT ARE ALL HYPE AND NO SKILLS AND NO TALENT GET NO RESPECT...IF I SEEN UR BITCH AS IN PUBLIC AND U CAME AT ME TALKIN BULLSHIT LIKE THAT, I'D INTRODUCE YOU TO THE CEMENT...
 
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yeah really tadou. let me here your store ready sealed cd? i wanna hear what kinda music your puttin out. cuz if it was anything like that last track you posted on here like a year ago.. that shit was boo boo
 
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MrFedEx503 said:
yeah really tadou. let me here your store ready sealed cd? i wanna hear what kinda music your puttin out. cuz if it was anything like that last track you posted on here like a year ago.. that shit was boo boo
Last track i posted up here, i believe, was the Bane diss track. Several People gave me PROPS for that one.

Now, do you really want me to dig it up and make you look like a dumbfuck, or are you going to be a good little boy and mind your own business?


TheTimeMachine said:
POINDEXTER...THEN LETS HEAR SOME OF THAT SHIT, THAT U AIN'T GOT...AIN'T NO ONE HEARD UR MUSIC...I NEVER SEEN YOU ONCE POST ANY OF YOUR MUSIC UP HERE...EVERY POST I SEE COMING FROM U IS BULLSHIT...UR JUST A LITTLE HYPE FAGGET WHO KNOWS HOW TO TYPE ON A COMPUTER AND NOTHING MORE LIKE I SAID UR JUST A BITCH CRITIC WHO AIN'T DONE SHIT...FUCK THAT REMIX THAT SHIT IS OLD, I DID THAT SHIT LIKE 2 YEARS AGO...'TALK TALK TALK'... I'VE DONE WAY MORE THAN UR ASS AND ALL U DOIN IS FANTASIZIN AND DEBATIN LIKE A BITCH DICK RIDIN FAG THAT YOU ARE...WEAK MUTHERFUCKERS LIKE U THAT ARE ALL HYPE AND NO SKILLS AND NO TALENT GET NO RESPECT...IF I SEEN UR BITCH AS IN PUBLIC AND U CAME AT ME TALKIN BULLSHIT LIKE THAT, I'D INTRODUCE YOU TO THE CEMENT...
Whatever you say, Persuasian.

All i know is, I took a stand for your bitch ass when i had zero reason to do so--i don't even know you, you fruity ass biker-looking dork--and now you're flipping ON ME like a little bitch because you think people will laugh and support you. So....you just fucked that one up.

Good luck posting up another thread about your music. I'm now NEVER going to let it go the HORRIBLE reputation you have for being SHIT behind the boards. I am going to compile every motherfucking negative quote about you and your beats that i can find, and every single thread you make--in fact, every time you open up your fat fucking mouth about "Ill send u a beat CD, holla @ me"--I'm going to copy/paste the contents of a special TXT file, and make you look like an idiot...time...and time.....and time again. And its funny because you wouldn't be able to compile enough praise to balance it out.

"Nobody" likes me. But NOBODY likes you. Huge difference, and you better get around to learning it.

Congrats. You're the first official addition to my bitch list. I hope you enjoy it.
 
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DJ Coma said:
You are comedy saying that internet presentation doesn't matter. If I want to network with an artist on the Siccness I am not going to be a prick to them for no reason because they won't fuck with me, and rightfully so.
Good for you. But thats not how I get down.

I start with ideas, and then i support those ideas. If you (and I mean an Impersonal You here) want to be an idiot and come after me instead of the ideas, then I will go after your dumb ass the same way, and continue to bring up the fact that you cannot attack my ideas......Why? Because then when you try to be a fucktard and say i'm "unproductive" and do "nothing but hate", I have whole threads and exchanges where you refused to discuss constructive ideas, and instead, preferred to attack me as a person.

You know what that's called? It's called being a HYPOCRITE, it's called HAVING YOUR CARD PULLED, and its called being PLAYED FOR A SUCKA. Sadly....it happens often.

You say you want to do a TV show and an internet site for the NW, which is awesome because it isn't really being done. But honestly, right now what do you think the chances of Cool Nutz or Bosko, the biggest acts in the NW right now, to fuck with your show or site? I would say they are VERY little and the reason is because of your utter disrespect on the internet.
On the contrary, they are extremely high. Cool Nutz is a businessman and a move-maker--not someone concerned with internet pissing matches and hurt e-feelings. (He can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)

By the way, there is no "want to do" about it. My NW website will be up by Summer, regardless of any other sites. If i gotta make it 100% backpacker because people want to kick my ass, then so be it. NorthWestRap.com can be a backpacker rap site. And if anyone ever types in "NorthWest Rap" in Yahoo (the same way I did so many years ago).....they'll get to learn all about how Backpackers are the ones running the scene, and NOT people like Crytical or E-Dawg.


If I can't take you serious on the internet, where you have the time to edit everything you want to say, then I sure as hell am not going to take you serious in person.
Thats the whole thing, sport. It goes both ways. When you hear me in person, you realize that you aren't hearing thoughts and ideas that have been pre-packaged hours ahead of time--you are hearing shit as it occurs in my mind, and its a situation not many people can compare to. Thats just being real.

Get people like you going about cars, and you might start running your mouth about wanting to buy a 57 such-and-such and putting X type of motor into it, and blah blah. Get me going about the NW Rap scene, and you'll hear me talk about shit you never even thought was possible...because you never had the thought to ponder it in the first place.

Yes the internet is different from in person but it's a networking tool just like the phone or meeting somebody at a show is. The Siccness isn't an AOL chat room where you can hide behind a computer and not have to worry about the outcome of your actions because you will never meet these people. It's a community where people on here WILL end up meeting each other if they are serious about this shit.
One...already met people. See above. Nothing happened. That is not me calling them bitches or saying they are afraid--that is me conveying the reality of the situation: The Internet does not matter as it relates to making personal decisions about people, especially in regards to how they dialogue.

The old saying first impressions are never forgotten is definitely true. You think just because I meet you in person or talk to you on the phone and you are different than on the internet that I am going to forget about all the unecessary shit talking that you have done to me and others on this forum? FUCK NO! I will probably hate you more because you cant keep the same bitch attitude you have in person that you portray on the internet. If you are so good in person, why do you have to change and not be like that when you are on the net? It doesn't make sense to just be a dick out of nowhere.
Holy shit, we're actually getting somewhere here (only not really, but lets go with it.)

Friend, NONE OF US keep the same attitude we have on the internet in person. Why? Because ALL OF US did not grow up with the Internet. We learned how to communicate BEFORE we started talking on the internet. That much CAN and WILL lead to FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES in the way we communicate.

When I talk on the internet, I am not a jackass. I type nearly 100wpm, and my already well-above-average vocabulary adds another 25-30%. It's almost impossible to match me.

In real life, what do people do when they hear a smart ass that talks using a lot of big words? They pick the dude apart. Every last part of him. Only way to avoid it is to be about 6'8 320lbs, and even then, you can only push too far because the coward might have a gun.

On the internet though....what CAN you do? ...Nothing. The only thing you can do is match wits. And when you are INCAPABLE of matching wits, and you CANNOT punk people out like you are used to doing......YOU ARE GOING TO GET IRRITATED IN A WAY YOU HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED.

YET...YET...once you meet the man behind the words.....EVERYTHING changes. If i walk up to you mean mugging and calling you a bitch for no reason, of course you're going to get mad. Then again, do I jump into threads calling people bitches for no reason? Of course not. So when I see most people, we start off with clean slates.

And from a clean slate....its not much you're going to find about me to complain about. I dress in white tees and jeans--not flashy gear and throwbacks and jewelry. So you see me for the simple but intelligent man I am, not some loud-mouthed show-off. I look you in the eyes and let you finish everything you say. And we can go on and on with this.


End result....Trying to match wits with me online, at the same time taking it to a negative level...you might as well sign your death warrant. Away from the internet, ain't no need to match wits because there's never going to be that big of an audience to show off for.

Smart-ass little fuck? Nah you just described yourself dumb fuck. I said that because I've seen people like you get their ass kicked over acting like that.
No need to get all whiny. We all know you wouldn't have gotten YOUR ass kicked, because you're too busy kissing everybody else's. Its just bad taste to beat up a kiss-ass--it's like beating up Richard Simmons. Even if you do...who cares? The man was feminine to begin with.....and for the purposes of this forum, you might as well be a female too.

Well who are they and do they even matter? Are they just some hicks from Aberdeen? Or are they actually factors in the game?
Friend, are you kidding me? You think I'm just going to type up a friend list right here in this forum? You deserve some kind of Comedy Central award for that one.

Support is support. You don't need to know specifics. You can find out when everyone else finds out.

Notebooks aren't very good at blocking punches.
I wouldn't know. I've met several Siccness members, and nobody has ever tried.

Until you change your demeanor, I am done with this pointless, time-wasting arguing with you. Until then I will not take ANYTHING you do or say seriously. I will end with a classic quote that fits you to a tee, because right now you are 200% talk. "DONT TALK ABOUT IT, BE ABOUT IT!"
And right now, you're 100% Dirty Shoez. Which is kinda cute. My very own personal dick-rider that has brainwashed himself into believing that he actually has a leg to stand on.



Why the fuck are we still talking about me anyways? Quit that shit. The topic is Cool Nutz and his upcoming DVD. Leave me out of this. Either discuss releasing DVD footage or something relating to it, or nothing at all. But all this "Dirty Shoez, why are such a big meany head?" talk......I'm a grown ass man. Be grown with me and drop that.
 
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U want me to mind my business instead of you proving to me what you have done... let me here your album man. let me hear that QUAILTY music, or would you rather talk shit and just hope i didnt ask you again??? post up some tracks give me some links to where i can cop an album? what web sites are sellin your shit... or was not priniting enough albums part of you ingenius plan to take over the record industry
 
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All right stop, Collaborate and listen!
Ice is back with my brand new invention!
Something grabs a hold of me tightly!
Flow like a harpoon daily and nightly!
Will it ever stop? Yo -- I don't know!
Turn off the lights and I'll glow!
To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal!
Light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle!
Dance, go rush the speaker that booms!
I'm killing your brain like a poisonous mushroom!
deadly, when I play a dope melody!
Anything less than the best is a felony!
Love it or leave it, You better gain way!
You better hit bull's eye, The kid don't play!
If there was a problem, Yo, I'll solve it!
Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it!

Ice Ice Baby!
Vanilla
Ice Ice Baby!
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Ice Ice Baby!
Vanilla
 
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I be wakin Up- "i dont wanna be hear sometimes i wanna put a bullet in my head" well do us all a favor then??? no im kidding but maybe a bullet in your delivery.....

also i was wondering where i can find your pressed up cd's? once again was not pressing up enough copies part of your plan?
 
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I was the first guy on the song. Not the second. There is nothing wrong with my delivery--only the lack of intensity/emotion.

If you want to find a copy, you'll have to go to Aberdeen WA and ask around, because that is where 90% of the copies were sold, which, consequently, WAS a part of the plan.
 
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well the first verse aint so hot either, sound like your typical borin rapper.... very unorignal. If i were you i would change delivery's and get better quailty beats.
 
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As far as the song...Sounds like a personal opinion.

And if there's already a demand in your own back yard, why the fuck would you go out of town? You make it sound like holding down your town BEFORE branching out is a bad thing.


If you haven't heard of Kurt Cobain's hometown...thats all on you. I don't really care. All i know is, Aberdeen is responsible for more record sales than Portland, and that much is real.
 
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And since you made 2 posts, I'll make two as well.

I want you to explain to me why we should have bothered going out of town to sell records, when records were already being sold in town. Explain how its better to be one rap album among hundreds of others, instead of one rap album among...one.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
Last track i posted up here, i believe, was the Bane diss track. Several People gave me PROPS for that one.

Now, do you really want me to dig it up and make you look like a dumbfuck, or are you going to be a good little boy and mind your own business?


Whatever you say, Persuasian.

All i know is, I took a stand for your bitch ass when i had zero reason to do so--i don't even know you, you fruity ass biker-looking dork--and now you're flipping ON ME like a little bitch because you think people will laugh and support you. So....you just fucked that one up.

Good luck posting up another thread about your music. I'm now NEVER going to let it go the HORRIBLE reputation you have for being SHIT behind the boards. I am going to compile every motherfucking negative quote about you and your beats that i can find, and every single thread you make--in fact, every time you open up your fat fucking mouth about "Ill send u a beat CD, holla @ me"--I'm going to copy/paste the contents of a special TXT file, and make you look like an idiot...time...and time.....and time again. And its funny because you wouldn't be able to compile enough praise to balance it out.

"Nobody" likes me. But NOBODY likes you. Huge difference, and you better get around to learning it.

Congrats. You're the first official addition to my bitch list. I hope you enjoy it.
talk, talk, talk thats all u can do. I'm shittin on u cuzz all ur posts are bullshit, and every other post I've seen from u on these boards ur startin bullshit debates wit ppl. i dont give a rats ass if people in Washington don't like my beats. you are just a bitch loser with allot of time on ur hands. I think are the only one in here that gets hated on the most becasue of your gay ass comments, just ask around. come over here and say that shit to me lil mark ass bitch you'll get dropped. now you are added to my shit list mark bitch... an if i see you, your ass is gonna get dropped cuz u on sum bullshit...blood
 
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TheTimeMachine said:
talk, talk, talk thats all u can do. I'm shittin on u cuzz all ur posts are bullshit, and every other post I've seen from u on these boards ur startin bullshit debates wit ppl. i dont give a rats ass if people in Washington don't like my beats. you are just a bitch loser with allot of time on ur hands. I think are the only one in here that gets hated on the most becasue of your gay ass comments, just ask around. come over here and say that shit to me lil mark ass bitch you'll get dropped. now you are added to my shit list mark bitch... an if i see you, your ass is gonna get dropped cuz u on sum bullshit...blood
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Dirty Shoez said:
And since you made 2 posts, I'll make two as well.

I want you to explain to me why we should have bothered going out of town to sell records, when records were already being sold in town. Explain how its better to be one rap album among hundreds of others, instead of one rap album among...one.

Isnt it annoying when someone who isnt quailified to be talking shit is????? this was all to prove a point to your ass... STFU