Controlling your dreams, LUCID DREAMS

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Several years ago I experienced a dream in which I was able to take complete control. I was asleep and I knew this in my dream. I realized that my body was asleep and that each object and character around me was a creation of my mind. Because of this I was able to do anything I desired- fly, jump over buildings, travel to outer space, etc. Since then I only experienced one or two lucid dreams, that is, until about 6 months ago.

I began some research about dreams and different meanings etc. and I stumbled across a few websites, which described lucid dreaming and more importantly, methods of achieving lucid dreams.

I have been practicing these methods for some time now and I experience lucid dreaming probably once or twice a week.

A little history:

For over 1,000 years, the Tibetan Buddhists have been practicing lucid dreaming as a means of approaching enlightenment. In this pursuit, they have developed elaborate techniques for inducing lucidity. Some of these are esoteric beyond the capacity of the uninitiated Western mind to conceive, let alone practice. However, others bear a striking resemblance to the techniques now employed by Western oneironauts, for example, frequent reflection throughout the day on the dreamlike nature of reality. Lucid dreaming is actually being studied at universities, and, if you live in the San Francisco area, you can get paid to participate in lucid dream studies.

Techniques:

I have been told, and have read, that the use of opium before you sleep can help. I have never tried opium, so I cannot support this claim.

One method that works for me is laying on my back in a well lit room, when I'm kind of tired, but not really tired. Usually, lucid dreams occur when you're not completely asleep...about 75-85% asleep.

You can also get in the habit of asking yourself if you're dreaming in real life, even if it seems ridiculous. This way you'll be more likely to ask yourself when you really are dreaming, and realize it. (This is probably the most important part)

It's also important to get in the habit of remembering your dreams. Every morning when you wake, try to focus on the dreams you had throughout the night, remember them and think about them for some time. (The more you think about them, the more likely you will remember them). They say writing down your dreams in the morning or in the middle of the night helps.

Another method is focusing on something throughout the day, such as your hand (stare at your hand for 20-30 sec). If you do this a few times a day, it is likely you will do this in your dream, which at that point, you may realize you're dreaming.

The feeling of lucid dreams is amazing. Some people are lucid dreamers naturally, others need training, and some never experience them. I am curious if anyone else has experienced lucid dreams and if they can share any methods that may help.
 
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Shit's tight. Sometimes I think I can do this, but I'm not really sure if I can control it or not. Seems like I am doin what I want in the dream.

The other night I had a dream that I went back to school (college out of town) and there was Polar Bears there for some reason. When I woke up, they were talkin about Polar Bears on Sportscenter hahaha
 
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I HAVE A CONDITION CALLED SLEEP PARALYSIS....A RARE OCCURANCE DURING REM SLEEP THAT WAKES UP YOUR MIND WHILE YOUR BODY IS PARALYZED....APPARENTLY THERE IS A SORT OF "SWITCH" IN THE AREA THAT YOUR SPINAL CORD MEETS THE BRAIN WHICH PARALYZES YOUR BODY SO THAT YOU DONT ACT OUT YOUR DREAMS IN REAL LIFE....WELL FOR A LOT OF FOLKS THIS SWITCH CAN FUCC UP AND THEY DO ACT OUT IN THE FORM OF SLEEP WALKING.....SLEEP PARALYSIS IS THE OPPOSITE WHERE YOUR MIND WAKES UP (I CAN SEE AND HEAR) BUT YOUR BODY IS STILL FROZEN(CANT MOVE OR SPEAK).....WHEN THIS HAPPENS I TEND TO SEE FIGURES IN THE ROOM WITH ME....USUALLY DARK SHADOWY TYPES.....I HEAR SOUNDS RANGIN FROM WIERD LAUGHS & WHISPERS TO LARGE CROWDS SCREAMIN......IT CAN BE A FRIGHTNING EXPERIANCE SOMETIMES AND OTHER TIMES IT HAS BEEN SORT OF PEACEFULL....THE EXPERIANCE IS SAID TO BE RARE AND EVERYONE MAY HAVE AN EPISODE AT LEAST ONCE IN THIER LIFE BUT I MUGT BE A SPECIAL CASE CUZ I HAVE IT AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH AT THE MINIMAL AND HAVE HAD TIMES WHERE I GET IT 2-3 TIMES A NIGHT EVERY NIGHT FOR WEEKS ON END.....AN EVEN RARER AND STRANGE OCCURANCE ASSOCIATED WITH IT IS AN OUT OF BODY EXPERIANCE....I HAVE FOUND MYSELF TRYIN TO GET UP OR TRYIN TO WALK ACCROSS THE ROOM ONLY TO LOOK BACC AT THE BED AND SEE MY BODY STILL LAYIN THERE ASLEEP.....

WELL ANYWAYS...I WAS READING UP ON IT ONLINE AND A GUY WHO ALSO HAS THESE EPISODES ON A REGULAR BASIS CLAIMS TO HAVE TAKEN CONTROL OVER HIS OUT OF BODY EXPERICANCES AND HAS TRAVELED AROUND HIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR HOURS WHILE IN THIS STATE....HE TRIES TO EXPLAIN HOW HE ACHIEVES THIS.....SO AFTER READING THIS I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING MYSELF WHEN I HAVE AN EPISODE AND THE CRAZIEST SHIT HAPPENED A FEW WEEKS AGO.....I FOUND MYSELF FALLIN OFF THE BED AND REALIZED I HAD LEFT MY BODY....SO WITHOUT TRYIN TOO HARD TO CONCENTRATE ON MOVIN MYSELF PHYSICALLY I SORT OF CRAWLED/FLOATED TOWARDS MY COMPUTER DESK.....I ALWAYS TURN THE COMP OFF BEFORE BED.....I MANAGED TO REACH OUT AND TOUCH THE COMPUTER AND I COULD FEEL IT....I PRESSED THE POWER BUTTON IN AND SAW IT LIGHT UP....I TRIED TO MOVE OUT OF THE ROOM BUT I LOST CONCENTRATION AND ENDED UP WAKIN UP IN MY BED.....AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THE COMPUTER SURE ENOUGH IT WAS STARTING UP......

ITS SOME CRAZY SHIT TO BELEIVE BUT ITS THE TRUTH AND I WONDER HOW MUCH ONE CAN REALLY DO IF THEY WERE TO MASTER THIS ABILITY.....ITS KINDA SCARY THINKIN OF THE POSSIBILTY OF PEOPLE FLOATIN AROUND IN A SPIRIT FORM BEING ABLE TO PHYSICALLY TOUCH THINGS....
 
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2 0 - I was into the same thing a couple of years ago and actually it only took like a week or so before I could be more present in my dreams. Unfortunately, I a bout with alcohol messed it all up and now I have normal sleep and normal dreams.

Ccytzo - Have you been diagnozed with the sleep paralysis or just going off your own experience. Seems far out there but I believe it.
 
May 13, 2002
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That’s a trip man…very difficult to fully believe the computer being on part, but a trip regardless. Is sleep paralysis really a rare condition? I know I have experienced this state many times, but never as you explained – out of body experiences etc.

When I was younger, up until I was about 13 or 14, I used to sleep walk all the time. That shit was crazy and very frightening at times. During that time of my life I lived across the street from a very dense forest. One time, when I was around 12 or 13, I found myself in the middle of these woods, in my pajamas, no shoes, no flashlight, nothing. Just standing alone, in pitch-black darkness sounded by trees. It was probably the scariest moment of my life. I freaked out and just ran straight and eventually ended up at a road and found my way home.
 
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YES A DOCTOR AT MENTAL HEALTH IS THE ONE WHO DIAGNOSED IT AND EXPLAINED TO ME WHAT IT WAS....BEFORE HE TOLD ME I DIDNT KNOW WTF IT WAS AND I HAD THEORIES OF IT BEING SOMETHIN SPIRITUAL AND BELIVEVED I WAS BEING HAUNTED BY DEMONS OR EVEN MAYBE BEING ABDUCTED BY EXTRATERRESTRIALS......IVE BEEN HAVIN IT AS LONG AS CAN REMEMBER AND EVEN BEFORE I COULD....MY MOM SAYS 1ST TIME SHE KNOWS OF WAS WHEN I WAS A BOUT 2 YEARS OLD....I RAN INTO HER ROOM TALKIN CRAZY AND CRYIN ABOUT A BLACC MAN THAT WAS HOLDING ME DOWN AND I COULDNT SCREAM FOR HELP.....

IM WAITING TO SEE A NUEROLOGIST AND HAVIN MY BRAIN SCANNED FOR ANY STRANGE ACTIVITY.....I ALSO BELEIVE I EXPERIANCED A SEIZURE IN MY SLEEP A FEW DAYS AGO....I FELT LIKE I WAS BEING ELECTROCUTED OR SOMETHIN....IT WAS REALLY SCARY.......
 
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Damn man, that shit is crazy...

Would you consider it a full-blown seizure or like a miniature one?

I've had many strange experiences while asleep or partially awake where I *think* I feel a fierce pain in my heart or my in my brain and suddenly "awake" and I'm never quite sure if the pain was real or just imagined.

Could it be possible that you dreamed it while in a certain state?
 
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DOUBT IT....SHIT WAS REAL AS FUCC AND MY WHOLE BODY WAS A WRECC OF NERVES FOR A FEW HOURS AFTER AND HAD A MIGRAINE ALL DAY.....IM HOPIN THE NEUROLOGIST CAN TELL ME MORE CUZ IM STARTIN TO GET WORRIED ABOUT MY BRAIN......SOME WOULD SUGGEST MY EXTREME PAST USE OF DRUGS SUCH AS SMOKIN WEED ALMOST NONSTOP FOR 12 YEARS....SNORTING COKE...DROPPIN OVER 20 OR SO HITS OF ACID....SMOKIN SHERM STICCS....AND SMOKIN CRYSTAL HAS PROBABLY FUCCED MY BRAIN OFF....I WOULDNT DOUBT THAT THESE DRUGS HAVE AFFECTED ME AND SURE AS HELL WERENT ANY HELP....BUT I EXPERIENED SLEEP PARALYSIS LONG BEFORE I EVEN KNEW WHAT DRUGS WERE.....
 
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Astral (sp?) Projection? Is this the same thing or a whole different type of thing? I've heard about people being able to leave their bodies and actually travel around, never touching things though. That's fuckin crazy.
 
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THANX MAN.....

BUT BACC ON YOUR TOPIC....I HAVE HAD SEMI LUCID DREAMS IN THE PAST BUT IT SEEMS JUS AS I BECOME AWARE THAT IM DREAMIN AND TRY TO DO AS I PLEASE I WAKE UP.....SHIT KINDA SUCCS CUZ ONE TIME I WAS DREAMIN I WAS WIT 2 OF THE FINEST WOMEN IVE EVER SEEN AND I REALIZED IM DREAMIN AND I WAS TRYIN TO GET MY SHIT ON BUT THEN I WOKE UP....LOL.....
 
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I've had one lucid dream that I can remember...I remember telling myself in my dream that I was dreaming, and I instantly became very excited...I remember that the dream became about music, and how I thought, in the dream, would change the dream, instantly. I thought about listening to music, and a tape deck appeared, I listened to a blank tape w/one of the hardest beats I had ever heard...I remember waking up and running to my keyboard to try and replicate it...didn't turn out. I've never had one, that I remember, since...but it definitly was a very fun and happy experience, and I look forward to trying out your methods to achieve more lucid dreams.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Damn man, that shit is crazy...

Would you consider it a full-blown seizure or like a miniature one?

I've had many strange experiences while asleep or partially awake where I *think* I feel a fierce pain in my heart or my in my brain and suddenly "awake" and I'm never quite sure if the pain was real or just imagined.

Could it be possible that you dreamed it while in a certain state?


some times when i have a hard time sleeping, waking up alot during the night. I would think that someone was standing over me with a stick or bat and hit me , and i could actaully feel my body vibrating from it
 
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L Mac-a-docious said:
I've had one lucid dream that I can remember...I remember telling myself in my dream that I was dreaming, and I instantly became very excited...I remember that the dream became about music, and how I thought, in the dream, would change the dream, instantly. I thought about listening to music, and a tape deck appeared, I listened to a blank tape w/one of the hardest beats I had ever heard...I remember waking up and running to my keyboard to try and replicate it...didn't turn out. I've never had one, that I remember, since...but it definitly was a very fun and happy experience, and I look forward to trying out your methods to achieve more lucid dreams.
Yo, that's crazy, I've had very similar dreams where I hear the sickest beat of all time and when I wake I can still kind of remember, but slowly after time it fades away.
 
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If by Lucid Dreams you mean a dream in which you are completely and fully aware that you are indeed sleeping then I have only had one. I was in an old school styled school house (the types that had all the grades in the single building) and some bully was terrorizing everyone. I said something about him being fat and he came over to kick the shit out of me. I remember thinking that what I had said was the stupidest move I could have done and then out of nowhere I am aware that I'm in a dream. All the kids are afraid for me and the bully is moving ever closer ready to kick my ass and when he does I just yawn and take the punches without feeling pain. After that I flew away. That was the only actual 100% free moving dream I've ever had. Of course I've had many other dreams where I dream and am only like 80-50% aware I'm in a dream. Those I usually spend fucking models.