BREAKING NEWS!! UFC FINALIZING DEAL WITH FEDOR!!!!
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Ridiculous offer for Fedor.
This is the biggest fight the sport has right now, other than maybe a GSP vs Spider Silva matchup, as far as just being a mega-fight for MMA.
But this one is especially special because of the matchup between Brock and Fedor. This will be a terrible black eye to the sport as a whole if this fight doesn't get made for any reason.
This is the biggest fight the sport has right now, other than maybe a GSP vs Spider Silva matchup, as far as just being a mega-fight for MMA.
But this one is especially special because of the matchup between Brock and Fedor. This will be a terrible black eye to the sport as a whole if this fight doesn't get made for any reason.
how can any of you say Fedor hasn't done shit? dude has went 30-0 (you cant call that wack ass disqualification a true loss) fighting the best there has been to offer and now that brock comes along everyone is on dudes nuts he is nowhere near as proven as Fedor and is twice the size Brock should have knocked out Heath Herring only reason he won is because he laid on dude most of the match
Come Friday if Dana White cant get Fedor to sign in what seems to be one of the greatest contracts ever given to an MMa fighter. Cut off all ties. All the buzz thats going around but these greedy ass KGB management seem to play hardball, fuckem....
M1 is only alive cause of Fedors name, its getting to the point where they will never put on a show on US soil. They tried so many times with co promotions but couldnt hack it cause they are NOBODIES....
M1 is only alive cause of Fedors name, its getting to the point where they will never put on a show on US soil. They tried so many times with co promotions but couldnt hack it cause they are NOBODIES....
M-1 is a plague. Every promotion it "Co-Promotes" with fails (Bodog, Affliction).
I put co-promotes in quotes because I really mean "Chop up Fedor's check and give him what they deem appropriate while pocketing the rest". M-1 does nothing but steal from Fedor.
Fuck it, let Fedor go back to Japan and fight tomato cans till he retires. If he's stupid enough to let his career get hijacked by M-1 he deserves to fight on shitty cards that no one is willing to pay to watch.
I put co-promotes in quotes because I really mean "Chop up Fedor's check and give him what they deem appropriate while pocketing the rest". M-1 does nothing but steal from Fedor.
Fuck it, let Fedor go back to Japan and fight tomato cans till he retires. If he's stupid enough to let his career get hijacked by M-1 he deserves to fight on shitty cards that no one is willing to pay to watch.
Finkelstein on UFC Talks, Fedor’s Future
videolink: http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Finkelstein-on-UFC-Talks-Fedors-Future-2034
Vadim Finkelstein discusses negotiations with the UFC and the terms it will take to lock up Fedor Emelianenko in this exclusive video interview conducted after Wednesday's M-1 Global press conference.
Finkelstein also talks about future options for the world’s top heavyweight mixed martial artist.
videolink: http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Finkelstein-on-UFC-Talks-Fedors-Future-2034
Vadim Finkelstein discusses negotiations with the UFC and the terms it will take to lock up Fedor Emelianenko in this exclusive video interview conducted after Wednesday's M-1 Global press conference.
Finkelstein also talks about future options for the world’s top heavyweight mixed martial artist.
STRIKEFORCE IN THE RUNNING FOR FEDOR
Scott Coker is one of several promoters “in dialogue” with Fedor Emelianenko and his partners at M-1 Global.
The CEO of Strikeforce recently returned from a vacation in Italy to find Emelianenko a sudden free agent after the collapse of Affliction. His own event, “Carano vs. Cyborg” on Aug. 15, had encountered a few hiccups as well with injuries and drop-offs, but he is happy with the almost-finalized product.
Coker said talks with the top-ranked heavyweight were among several he had with Affliction fighters – most of whom were under non-exclusive contracts – when all indications were that the promotion would cease promoting after “Trilogy.”
He added recent talks with M-1 have been positive, though details of the discussions remained general.
“We’ve had a good conversation about the strengths of what we do, and what we can offer,” said Coker. “They had the meeting (Tuesday) with the UFC, and they’re going to meet with a couple boxing promoters that have been calling up. You can imagine… he’s like the hot free agent.”
Emelianenko and his team could not reach agreement on a UFC deal, which was reported to be near completion Tuesday, said M-1 partner Vadim Finkelchtein, though there was no definitive halt to future negotiations.
In a press conference held Wednesday in Anaheim, Calif., Finkelchtein said M-1 would not commit Emelianenko to the UFC if co-promotion was off the table.
Coker said co-promotion was but one of the stumbling blocks in securing the top-ranked heavyweight.
“I think there’s two things on that,” he said. “There’s the co-promotion, and then there’s the big check. Dialogue is ongoing.”
Strikeforce's scale points to a smaller up-front offer for Emelianenko to join the fold, but a non-exclusive deal with the fighter has been rumored. Emelianenko has often expressed a desire to return to competition in Japan, where he became a star in Pride Fighting Championships.
Strikeforce’s business model has, thus far, focused on television platforms to generate revenue beyond live gate and licensing deals, but if Emelianenko were to sign, Coker says it could necessitate a jump to pay-per-view.
“I don’t think we’d have to, but I think that’s where it would lead to,” he said. “You’d have to get there.”
As to where negotiations left off, Coker said the deal was up in the air.
"They’re talking to everybody and they’re not going to make a decision right away,” he said. “They’re going to take their time. They basically said we’ll get back to you and we’ll probably make a decision in the next couple of weeks.”
Scott Coker is one of several promoters “in dialogue” with Fedor Emelianenko and his partners at M-1 Global.
The CEO of Strikeforce recently returned from a vacation in Italy to find Emelianenko a sudden free agent after the collapse of Affliction. His own event, “Carano vs. Cyborg” on Aug. 15, had encountered a few hiccups as well with injuries and drop-offs, but he is happy with the almost-finalized product.
Coker said talks with the top-ranked heavyweight were among several he had with Affliction fighters – most of whom were under non-exclusive contracts – when all indications were that the promotion would cease promoting after “Trilogy.”
He added recent talks with M-1 have been positive, though details of the discussions remained general.
“We’ve had a good conversation about the strengths of what we do, and what we can offer,” said Coker. “They had the meeting (Tuesday) with the UFC, and they’re going to meet with a couple boxing promoters that have been calling up. You can imagine… he’s like the hot free agent.”
Emelianenko and his team could not reach agreement on a UFC deal, which was reported to be near completion Tuesday, said M-1 partner Vadim Finkelchtein, though there was no definitive halt to future negotiations.
In a press conference held Wednesday in Anaheim, Calif., Finkelchtein said M-1 would not commit Emelianenko to the UFC if co-promotion was off the table.
Coker said co-promotion was but one of the stumbling blocks in securing the top-ranked heavyweight.
“I think there’s two things on that,” he said. “There’s the co-promotion, and then there’s the big check. Dialogue is ongoing.”
Strikeforce's scale points to a smaller up-front offer for Emelianenko to join the fold, but a non-exclusive deal with the fighter has been rumored. Emelianenko has often expressed a desire to return to competition in Japan, where he became a star in Pride Fighting Championships.
Strikeforce’s business model has, thus far, focused on television platforms to generate revenue beyond live gate and licensing deals, but if Emelianenko were to sign, Coker says it could necessitate a jump to pay-per-view.
“I don’t think we’d have to, but I think that’s where it would lead to,” he said. “You’d have to get there.”
As to where negotiations left off, Coker said the deal was up in the air.
"They’re talking to everybody and they’re not going to make a decision right away,” he said. “They’re going to take their time. They basically said we’ll get back to you and we’ll probably make a decision in the next couple of weeks.”
Fedor Emelianenko rejects statement from brother Aleks about true motives of Vadim Finkelchtein
By now it’s no secret that former Pride FC Heavyweight Champion and Affliction headliner Fedor Emelianenko is being vigorously pursued by most of the world’s mixed martial arts promotions following the untimely demise of his previous employer, Affliction MMA.
Topping the list of potential suitors is Dana White, president of The Ultimate Fighting Championship, who no doubt sees the biggest pay-per-view (PPV) of all time in his company’s future should he somehow finagle a heavyweight superfight between the Russian Rancor and Zuffa’s pale powerhouse, Brock Lesnar.
Our friends at BloodyElbow posted a report from radio host Carmichael Dave stating that the UFC allegedly offered Emelianenko the most lucrative contract in the history of the sport, practically bending to every demand from his management team — except one:
* The UFC offered Fedor a six-fight, 30 million dollar contract (based on Zuffa’s projections of future PPV revenue).
* The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot.
* The UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the championship PPV on top of Fedor’s purse anticipating Lesnar vs. Fedor as the biggest PPV in MMA history.
* Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 sponsored items as he wanted.
* The UFC would grant Fedor the ability to compete in combat Sambo tournaments.
So what’s the hold up? Vadim “Co-promotion” Finkelchtein, it seems.
“The Last Emperor” operates under the power of the M-1 Global President and Co-Owner for all his business dealings. It’s co-promote or bust for Vaddy. And despite the bags of money that White and Co. have been leaving at the Russian’s doorstep, Fedor appears unmotivated to secure a deal.
From his July 29 press conference:
“The offer which was made by the UFC is not interesting for us. I completely trust Vadim and I completely trust our team in M-1 Global.”
Most of the mixed martial arts community has been screaming for some sort of forced intervention. What’s ironic is that most negotiations fall through because the star being courted is demanding an obscene amount of money.
In this case the negotiations are falling through because he’s rejecting an obscene amount of money. Welcome to bizarro world, where Finkelchtein is the anti-Boras.
Lest anyone think the MMA fan base has reacted inappropriately by storming the M-1 castle with torches and pitchforks, Fedor’s younger brother Aleksander Emelianenko has also called into question the true motives of Finkelchtein and whether or not he’s serving Fedor or himself.
From his native Sports.ru:
“You can deal with UFC, I know that they have flexible contract system. All these talks about “strict” contract terms with signing with UFC, come ONLY from Vadim Finkelstein, who wants to push his owns business projects through Fedor’s fights.”
The M-1 camp quickly labeled him as a black sheep, lost in his brother’s shadow and unable to focus on his own career. But how much of that is bitter pie and how much of it is actual truth, like most things, doesn’t faze Fedor.
Also from his July 29 presser:
“Well I think that Aleksander unfortunately has no idea about the contracts. He didn’t have a chance to read the contracts and I did. I have a good relationship with Aleksander and not long ago we trained together, but sometimes I cannot understand [his] actions.”
If it’s of any consolation to Aleks, sometimes the mixed martial arts community cannot understand Fedor’s actions either.
Maybe we’ll see him inside the Octagon one day, maybe we won’t. Until then, it’s back to the speculation board as we try and figure out who the best heavyweight fighter in the world might be.
By now it’s no secret that former Pride FC Heavyweight Champion and Affliction headliner Fedor Emelianenko is being vigorously pursued by most of the world’s mixed martial arts promotions following the untimely demise of his previous employer, Affliction MMA.
Topping the list of potential suitors is Dana White, president of The Ultimate Fighting Championship, who no doubt sees the biggest pay-per-view (PPV) of all time in his company’s future should he somehow finagle a heavyweight superfight between the Russian Rancor and Zuffa’s pale powerhouse, Brock Lesnar.
Our friends at BloodyElbow posted a report from radio host Carmichael Dave stating that the UFC allegedly offered Emelianenko the most lucrative contract in the history of the sport, practically bending to every demand from his management team — except one:
* The UFC offered Fedor a six-fight, 30 million dollar contract (based on Zuffa’s projections of future PPV revenue).
* The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot.
* The UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the championship PPV on top of Fedor’s purse anticipating Lesnar vs. Fedor as the biggest PPV in MMA history.
* Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 sponsored items as he wanted.
* The UFC would grant Fedor the ability to compete in combat Sambo tournaments.
So what’s the hold up? Vadim “Co-promotion” Finkelchtein, it seems.
“The Last Emperor” operates under the power of the M-1 Global President and Co-Owner for all his business dealings. It’s co-promote or bust for Vaddy. And despite the bags of money that White and Co. have been leaving at the Russian’s doorstep, Fedor appears unmotivated to secure a deal.
From his July 29 press conference:
“The offer which was made by the UFC is not interesting for us. I completely trust Vadim and I completely trust our team in M-1 Global.”
Most of the mixed martial arts community has been screaming for some sort of forced intervention. What’s ironic is that most negotiations fall through because the star being courted is demanding an obscene amount of money.
In this case the negotiations are falling through because he’s rejecting an obscene amount of money. Welcome to bizarro world, where Finkelchtein is the anti-Boras.
Lest anyone think the MMA fan base has reacted inappropriately by storming the M-1 castle with torches and pitchforks, Fedor’s younger brother Aleksander Emelianenko has also called into question the true motives of Finkelchtein and whether or not he’s serving Fedor or himself.
From his native Sports.ru:
“You can deal with UFC, I know that they have flexible contract system. All these talks about “strict” contract terms with signing with UFC, come ONLY from Vadim Finkelstein, who wants to push his owns business projects through Fedor’s fights.”
The M-1 camp quickly labeled him as a black sheep, lost in his brother’s shadow and unable to focus on his own career. But how much of that is bitter pie and how much of it is actual truth, like most things, doesn’t faze Fedor.
Also from his July 29 presser:
“Well I think that Aleksander unfortunately has no idea about the contracts. He didn’t have a chance to read the contracts and I did. I have a good relationship with Aleksander and not long ago we trained together, but sometimes I cannot understand [his] actions.”
If it’s of any consolation to Aleks, sometimes the mixed martial arts community cannot understand Fedor’s actions either.
Maybe we’ll see him inside the Octagon one day, maybe we won’t. Until then, it’s back to the speculation board as we try and figure out who the best heavyweight fighter in the world might be.
M-1: Fedor Not Offered $30 Million
M-1 Global is denying a report that Fedor Emelianenko turned down a six-fight $30-million deal this week to join the UFC’s heavyweight ranks.
CBS Radio host Carmichael Dave reported Wednesday that Emelianenko had turned down an agreement that would have paid him $5 million per fight. However, Joost Raimond, CEO for M-1 Global, called the report “completely ludicrous” and said negotiations never even reached the point where the number of fights contracted for Emelianenko was decided.
“I can say that the guaranteed -- and the word ‘guaranteed’ is of great importance here -- the guaranteed offer made by the UFC is less than what Fedor made before,” Raimond said. “The five-million (per fight) is way, way, way out of range. Half of that is even way out of range of what they offered.”
Raimond was not present at the meeting that took place between UFC and M-1 management in Los Angeles earlier this week, but he said he was debriefed shortly afterward. M-1 and UFC officials, including president Dana White, reconvened the next day via teleconference call, where M-1 presented a counteroffer that included co-promotion. No written contact was ever presented.
M-1 President Vadim Finkelstein and Emelianenko were en route to Russia Thursday and could not be reached for comment. UFC officials told Sherdog.com that White is also traveling and their earliest comment would come Friday during a media conference call.
Raimond confirmed that M-1 Global had been presented with the possibility to receive a cut of pay-per-view profits in addition to Emelianenko’s guaranteed pay, but he said no other profit-sharing incentives were presented.
“And there were a number of provisions attached to that offer that made it very much less interesting,” Raimond said.
Many of those provisions involved the branding of M-1 within the UFC organization, according to Raimond.
“We made it clear that Fedor, now and forever is part, even part owner, of M-1 and those two cannot be separated,” Raimond said. “If the rest of M-1 is excluded from any kind of deal, it makes the deal difficult.”
Raimond said a title shot against heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar –- in Emelianenko’s first fight or otherwise -- was not specified during the talks. (UFC President Dana White has publicly stated the Russian would challenge for the title in his first bout with the promotion, though.) Raimond also confirmed that the UFC conceded to allow Emelianenko to continue to compete in sambo, of which he is a national champion and spokesman, and noted during the meeting that the fighter was free to wear M-1 clothing.
“That’s like telling someone they’re allowed to eat,” said Raimond, suggesting it wasn’t a significant concession.
Raimond noted that the M-1 team was disheartened to learn that “unsubstantiated rumors” had been disseminated, and that Internet readers were willing to believe them at face value.
“Sometimes the fans don’t realize that there is a business to run and all these statements, ‘These M-1 idiots, why don’t they just give Fedor to the UFC because they’ve offered him the best money?’ This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor that the UFC has offered the best money for Fedor ever. This is just not the case.”
Raimond emphasized that negotiations with the UFC had been fruitful, even though the fundamental disagreement over co-promotion between the two organizations remains.
“We had a very professional, productive and respectful meeting with the UFC,” Raimond said. “I think both parties walked away (knowing) even though a deal wasn’t made, that a very decent meeting was had.”
M-1 Global is denying a report that Fedor Emelianenko turned down a six-fight $30-million deal this week to join the UFC’s heavyweight ranks.
CBS Radio host Carmichael Dave reported Wednesday that Emelianenko had turned down an agreement that would have paid him $5 million per fight. However, Joost Raimond, CEO for M-1 Global, called the report “completely ludicrous” and said negotiations never even reached the point where the number of fights contracted for Emelianenko was decided.
“I can say that the guaranteed -- and the word ‘guaranteed’ is of great importance here -- the guaranteed offer made by the UFC is less than what Fedor made before,” Raimond said. “The five-million (per fight) is way, way, way out of range. Half of that is even way out of range of what they offered.”
Raimond was not present at the meeting that took place between UFC and M-1 management in Los Angeles earlier this week, but he said he was debriefed shortly afterward. M-1 and UFC officials, including president Dana White, reconvened the next day via teleconference call, where M-1 presented a counteroffer that included co-promotion. No written contact was ever presented.
M-1 President Vadim Finkelstein and Emelianenko were en route to Russia Thursday and could not be reached for comment. UFC officials told Sherdog.com that White is also traveling and their earliest comment would come Friday during a media conference call.
Raimond confirmed that M-1 Global had been presented with the possibility to receive a cut of pay-per-view profits in addition to Emelianenko’s guaranteed pay, but he said no other profit-sharing incentives were presented.
“And there were a number of provisions attached to that offer that made it very much less interesting,” Raimond said.
Many of those provisions involved the branding of M-1 within the UFC organization, according to Raimond.
“We made it clear that Fedor, now and forever is part, even part owner, of M-1 and those two cannot be separated,” Raimond said. “If the rest of M-1 is excluded from any kind of deal, it makes the deal difficult.”
Raimond said a title shot against heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar –- in Emelianenko’s first fight or otherwise -- was not specified during the talks. (UFC President Dana White has publicly stated the Russian would challenge for the title in his first bout with the promotion, though.) Raimond also confirmed that the UFC conceded to allow Emelianenko to continue to compete in sambo, of which he is a national champion and spokesman, and noted during the meeting that the fighter was free to wear M-1 clothing.
“That’s like telling someone they’re allowed to eat,” said Raimond, suggesting it wasn’t a significant concession.
Raimond noted that the M-1 team was disheartened to learn that “unsubstantiated rumors” had been disseminated, and that Internet readers were willing to believe them at face value.
“Sometimes the fans don’t realize that there is a business to run and all these statements, ‘These M-1 idiots, why don’t they just give Fedor to the UFC because they’ve offered him the best money?’ This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor that the UFC has offered the best money for Fedor ever. This is just not the case.”
Raimond emphasized that negotiations with the UFC had been fruitful, even though the fundamental disagreement over co-promotion between the two organizations remains.
“We had a very professional, productive and respectful meeting with the UFC,” Raimond said. “I think both parties walked away (knowing) even though a deal wasn’t made, that a very decent meeting was had.”
