Breaking news: Javon takes paycut, Resigns with Oakland
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as long as im not the only one that thinks raider fans are delusional....it doesnt matter tho...your opinion about russell "coming up" is just as valid as mine about Vinces come up...
the only thing is....Russell has proved less....even with VY on the bench...
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thats the last post of reality on the subject ill make....im not going to let a debate go on and on about the backup qb of my team..
the only thing is....Russell has proved less....even with VY on the bench...
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thats the last post of reality on the subject ill make....im not going to let a debate go on and on about the backup qb of my team..
LOL @ ''Russell has proved less"...only from you, Mooreblock. Glad to see you're still the same moron, even without me on here all the time.
How has Russel ''proved'' less? He hasn't proven anything, good or bad. He's improved slightly since he was drafted, which is great, since he didn't deserve to be drafted that high anyways. Russell is a raw athlete with a strong arm. He's trying to be a QB, just like Vince. The only difference is, when there was competition for Vince, he lost out to Kerry Collins. Blame the injury all you want, but do you see what happened when a team's STARTING QB that was trusted and believed in, like Tom Brady is even close to coming back...Matt Cassell, who played pretty well in his starts, gets shipped out. If the Titans BELIEVED in Vince Young, and he was WINNING the job, and could GET THE JOB DONE, he would have been back in.
Like I've said at least half a dozen times to YOU, Vince Young was a great college player, much better than Jamarcus Russell was in college. But in the pros, they are both going to be average back-ups. Russell has a little bit of room to grow, imo, while Vince has hit his peak.
And Javon Walker still sucks. I hope I'm proven wrong, but until he produces, he still sucks. And by ''producing'', I'm not talking about having 1-2 games this season with 60+ yards.
THROW THE BALL TO MILLER.
How has Russel ''proved'' less? He hasn't proven anything, good or bad. He's improved slightly since he was drafted, which is great, since he didn't deserve to be drafted that high anyways. Russell is a raw athlete with a strong arm. He's trying to be a QB, just like Vince. The only difference is, when there was competition for Vince, he lost out to Kerry Collins. Blame the injury all you want, but do you see what happened when a team's STARTING QB that was trusted and believed in, like Tom Brady is even close to coming back...Matt Cassell, who played pretty well in his starts, gets shipped out. If the Titans BELIEVED in Vince Young, and he was WINNING the job, and could GET THE JOB DONE, he would have been back in.
Like I've said at least half a dozen times to YOU, Vince Young was a great college player, much better than Jamarcus Russell was in college. But in the pros, they are both going to be average back-ups. Russell has a little bit of room to grow, imo, while Vince has hit his peak.
And Javon Walker still sucks. I hope I'm proven wrong, but until he produces, he still sucks. And by ''producing'', I'm not talking about having 1-2 games this season with 60+ yards.
THROW THE BALL TO MILLER.
Aight I think we need to stop with the comparions because here are some career numbers from all 3 qb's: Alex Smith, Vince Young, and JaMarcus Russell.
Alex Smith= 19 TD's - 31 INT's and a career rating of 63.5
Vince Young= 22 TD's - 32 INT's and a career rating of 68.8
JaMarcus Russell= 15 TD's - 12 INT's and a career rating of 73.9
JaMarcus has less NFL experience but already has better numbers than both of them!
Alex Smith= 19 TD's - 31 INT's and a career rating of 63.5
Vince Young= 22 TD's - 32 INT's and a career rating of 68.8
JaMarcus Russell= 15 TD's - 12 INT's and a career rating of 73.9
JaMarcus has less NFL experience but already has better numbers than both of them!
Compare Alexs 1st first full year
Alex Smith 257 Comp 442 Att 58.1 comp% 2,890 yards 6.5 yards per play 16 TD 16 INT 35 Sacks 74.8 Rating 44 rush att 147 rush yards 3.3 avg 2 td 10 fumble 5 lost
Jamarcus 198 comp 368 Att 53.8 comp% 2,423 yards 6.6 yards per play 13 TD 8 INT 31 Sacks 77.1 Rating 17 rush att 127 rush yards 7.5 avg 1 TD 12 Fumbles 7 Lost
Alex Smith 257 Comp 442 Att 58.1 comp% 2,890 yards 6.5 yards per play 16 TD 16 INT 35 Sacks 74.8 Rating 44 rush att 147 rush yards 3.3 avg 2 td 10 fumble 5 lost
Jamarcus 198 comp 368 Att 53.8 comp% 2,423 yards 6.6 yards per play 13 TD 8 INT 31 Sacks 77.1 Rating 17 rush att 127 rush yards 7.5 avg 1 TD 12 Fumbles 7 Lost
Compare Alexs 1st first full year
Alex Smith 257 Comp 442 Att 58.1 comp% 2,890 yards 6.5 yards per play 16 TD 16 INT 35 Sacks 74.8 Rating 44 rush att 147 rush yards 3.3 avg 2 td 10 fumble 5 lost
Jamarcus 198 comp 368 Att 53.8 comp% 2,423 yards 6.6 yards per play 13 TD 8 INT 31 Sacks 77.1 Rating 17 rush att 127 rush yards 7.5 avg 1 TD 12 Fumbles 7 Lost
Alex Smith 257 Comp 442 Att 58.1 comp% 2,890 yards 6.5 yards per play 16 TD 16 INT 35 Sacks 74.8 Rating 44 rush att 147 rush yards 3.3 avg 2 td 10 fumble 5 lost
Jamarcus 198 comp 368 Att 53.8 comp% 2,423 yards 6.6 yards per play 13 TD 8 INT 31 Sacks 77.1 Rating 17 rush att 127 rush yards 7.5 avg 1 TD 12 Fumbles 7 Lost
packers. javon walker is a turd & the jury is still out on russel. bein a raider fan u shud just b quiet until somthin good happens but im sure u got em winnin the division. thats why i say u guys r dillusional. just bcuz he had more tds than ints dont mean shit, he still lead 1 of the nfls most woeful offenses.
the packers hav had 2 losing seasons in the last 16 years. but i havent said theyre gonna b good in here(but i think they r) just sayin j walk sucks & its nuts 2 b confident when yer team is this rock bottom. & imo after vys 2nd year his future appeared pretty bright. j russ has proven nothin except he leads the most feeble offense in the nfl. yer actin like 13tds is a good total. thats not even 1/game. lol. what did the raiders average like 12pts/game?