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Tony

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Yeah there's no comparison... Vince Young doesn't even have heart... he quit on his team by refusing to go back in (in the first game of the season and after throwing his 2nd INT). He basically gave his job up to Kerry Collins! So stop with the comparisons!

Alex Smith got more heart than Vince Young... Alex was playing with a broken shoulder and never wanted to quit on his team. Vince just straight up quit! He ain't go no heart and I am pretty sure that some of his teammates lost respect for him.
 
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Vince:
TDs: 32 T.O.s 38 P.PCT: %57.3 AVG: 6.4...

Russell:
TDS: 16 T.O.s 21 P.PCT: %53.9 AVG: 6.4...

the number 1 knock by all raider fans since ive been here is VYs completion %...

even on the bench id take VY over Russell at this point...call me crazy and bash him all you want....it is what it is....

he needs to improve and this year just proved it...hopefully sitting on the bench (which he never had the luxury of doing) brings something else to his game...

and if he ever does prove everyone wrong...my siccness people will hear about it no doubt....

there i go debating the age ol topic....soon raider fans will be sending me death threats threw PM because im posting in thier glorious topic...:hurt:
 
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Career
Vince:
TDs: 32 T.O.s 38 P.PCT: %57.3 AVG: 6.4...

Russell:
TDS: 16 T.O.s 21 P.PCT: %53.9 AVG: 6.4...

the number 1 knock by all raider fans since ive been here is VYs completion %...

even on the bench id take VY over Russell at this point...call me crazy and bash him all you want....it is what it is....

he needs to improve and this year just proved it...hopefully sitting on the bench (which he never had the luxury of doing) brings something else to his game...

and if he ever does prove everyone wrong...my siccness people will hear about it no doubt....

there i go debating the age ol topic....soon raider fans will be sending me death threats threw PM because im posting in thier glorious topic...:hurt:
Once again just like you did a few months back the stats you posted are distorted.

VY has only 22 career td passes and 32 int's with a career QB rating of 68.8 and 29 career starts.

JR has 15 career td passes and 12 int's with a career QB rating of 73.9 and 16 career starts.

VY is going to be a career backup quote me on that. He was a great college qb but has not been able to transition to the nfl. JR made good strides last season especially towards the end of the season. By looking at those numbers and the fact that JR has only had 1 full season of starting I don't know how anyone could say VY is the better QB, unless of course your VY groupie like someone.
 

Tony

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^^Ouch.... Vince Young has 13 more career starts and only 7 more TD passes than JR! And look at the INT's. At least Russell has a TD to INT ratio, Vince has an INT to TD ratio. From Vince's numbers he's good for at least 1 INT a game and he doesn't even average 1 TD pass a game.... that is sad for the first quarterback taken in the draft. Looks like he's walking down bust street. Jay Cutler is blowing Vince Young out!

Good post cro-mag....

Mooreblock what kind of numbers did you post man?
 

Chree

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lol at this still going on

look ur comparing 2 different types of qbs, who play in 2 different types of offenses
the only comparable thing about them is that they are black.......

Of course VY is gonna have less passing stats during his time, his offense is run 1st.....
 

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like i said they both suck but yer not counting vys rushing yds & tds. i am surprised russel had more tds than ints but 13 tds still sucks & their offense was pathetic. after vys 2nd year every1 was really high on him & he was on the cover of madden & shit. after russels 2nd year only biased raider fans r high on him & hell b worth like 79 in madden. lol
 
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Once again just like you did a few months back the stats you posted are distorted.

VY has only 22 career td passes and 32 int's with a career QB rating of 68.8 and 29 career starts.

JR has 15 career td passes and 12 int's with a career QB rating of 73.9 and 16 career starts.

VY is going to be a career backup quote me on that. He was a great college qb but has not been able to transition to the nfl. JR made good strides last season especially towards the end of the season. By looking at those numbers and the fact that JR has only had 1 full season of starting I don't know how anyone could say VY is the better QB, unless of course your VY groupie like someone.
you cant just minus out the rushing tds like they didnt happen....its apart of Vinces game that IS THERE...whether you choose to believe it or not....

and for being such the PURE passer that JRussel is, he completes WAY less then young...
 
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you cant just minus out the rushing tds like they didnt happen....its apart of Vinces game that IS THERE...whether you choose to believe it or not....

and for being such the PURE passer that JRussel is, he completes WAY less then young...
We're not talking about RB's so who cares about rushing td's? We're talking about passing numbers here. VY had 7 rushing td's his rookie season by far the most he had in any season, and I think that could be contributed to the fact that he was thinking about running first and throwing second something that has been one of his main flaws all along.
 

Tony

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Bingo! And once defensive coordinators figured that out... he was done! In comes a real qb that could read defenses... don't forget about Vince's low wonderlic scores!
 
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why does he have to ride pine to be a bust.....all he has to do is continue producing at the rate he does according to raider fans....because Vince was a bust in your eyes before he got benched....and still has the same or better numbers threw his career...