Brandon Bam Bam Rios vs Yuriorkis Gamboa!!! (April 14th)

[2-0-Sixx]

Lol you know a Manny fight wont happen no time soon, manny is fighting a few more fights then retiring for a few years(he will come back tho because he will need the money).Arum is using that as bait to get Gamboa to sign a five year exstention. Gamboa wanted a big fight and asked for this but I know for a fact he wanted to get paid also, he makes the same fighting nobodies lol that's a slap in the face. Seems like gamboa has the right people in his ear because hes making a smart buissness dicision.

I disagree becasue we all know Top Rank loves to do in-house fighting for Pacquiao and there are no more top rank fighters left for Pacquiao to fight. There is Marquez, but Pacquiao has said a few times now he doesn't really want to fight him again because it's a "broken record" and "people don't want to see the same movie over and over". So the idea is to have Gambao-Rios build their names, the winner could take a somewhat safe fight at 140, presumably win and boom, that person (either gamboa or rios) is right there in the mix for pacquiao.

Think about it - who is on top rank's roster after Marquez that can fight Pacquiao? Look at the weight classes. The only guy is Mike Jones and he just doesn't have the name right now.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

100K? what is this the UFC? lmao!! come on u dirty fat jew pig put up a milli to the winner and watch if they fight doesnt happen shit bob arum has that money to whip his ass with! shit i bet he still hasnt spent his muhammad ali money lol

I actually like the idea of a bonus but a 100k aint shit in a $1 million dollar fight. They should make it $500,000 or something.

 

[naner12]

believe it or not the majority of fights aren't signed until well into the promotion. Cotto vs Margarito II is a good example of that and it was only known to the public because of the high profile nature of what was going on (margarito needing to be medically approved, cotto and his top rank deal & demands).

From the people I've spoken to, usually fights are agreed to verbally, the promotion kicks off and once everyone is all together the contracts are signed. Not all, but most. Usually the really big high profile fights (floyd, pacquiao) are done the opposite way, the logical way with contracts signed first.

This goes down to all the very small fights on cards to. Take any Deontay Wilder fight for example and he usually doesn't end up signing the contract until days before the fight.

This is the boxing industry for you.

A Wilder Vs. TBA makes sense to do it like that, if that's the case that's fucking stupid. There's no way fights should be hyped up and given a concrete date, venue, have people purchase tickets, hotel, airfare, etc. for a fight that no one knows isn't going to pop off. Oh well..

 

[WYNO707X4]

100 grand u could buy somebody a house bambam wants that money

 

[2-0-Sixx]

A Wilder Vs. TBA makes sense to do it like that, if that's the case that's fucking stupid. There's no way fights should be hyped up and given a concrete date, venue, have people purchase tickets, hotel, airfare, etc. for a fight that no one knows isn't going to pop off. Oh well..

I know it's stupid, but this is common in boxing. It only comes to light when stuff like this happens (gamboa no showing, Cotto-Marg II was never officially signed until days before the fight).

Anyways, we still don't know if Gamboa signed or not. Brandon Rios said Gamboa signed a contract. Top Rank, specifically Todd Duboef said he signed. Gamboa says he doesn't. We'll see. Maybe he just wants more money. Look at Donaire after all that shit he did he was jumping up and down in joy to sign a four year extension with Top Rank because of the money.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

This is from The Ring magazine:

It’s common in professional boxing for the official contracts of a bout to remain unsigned until long after the matchup has been announced, sometimes until the week of the fight. However, the fighters customarily sign a bout agreement that details basic terms of the deal – including how much they are to be paid.​

And here is what Todd Debouf says:

“This is a fight that was brought up by Gamboa and Gamboa’s co-promoter, Ahmet Oner, last year,” duBoef said. “Before his last fight in September, Oner told me that Yuriorkis Gamboa wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao – but first, he wanted Brandon Rios. He wanted to win the lightweight title. I never thought of that, but it was a fascinating matchup.

“I said let’s talk after his fight in September, and we did. Then we talked after Brandon’s last fight in December. We talked to Brandon and his manager, Cameron Dunkin, and in late January or early February, Rios agreed to do the fight.

“On Feb. 16, Top Rank, Arena-Box and Gamboa all had an agreement for the fight. Once we had that agreement, we set dates for the press conferences and we activated our partners. I’m just a promoter, I can’t do it alone. We need HBO, the Mandalay Bay, and our sponsors, Tecate and AT&T.”

There is no ‘Plan B,’” duBoef said. “I’ve got commitments to HBO, the Mandalay Bay and to our sponsors. They want Rios-Gamboa. I’m bound to the fans. They want Rios-Gamboa. The ticket demand for this fight is unbelievable. We originally configured the arena for 6,500 seats but the demand is so great it’s looking like the full Event Center will be needed.

“Rios-Gamboa is the fight fans want to see. That’s what we want to deliver and that’s still the plan.”​

 

[naner12]

Yeah true, I wasn't disagreeing with you BTW just saying it's retarded. It's hard for me to imagine doing big business on someone's word.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

word. I don't know if you saw what I just posted from The Ring, but it's sounding like to me Gamboa may have signed what they referred to as a "customarily bout agreement." I don't know how legally bounding that is.

Regardless gamboa himself has been talking about this fight for months. He's done interviews talking about the fight, talking about how he's going to beat him, etc. I just really can't believe he waited until the press tour to express his unhappiness. He had plenty of time to back out if he wanted to, or try to figure out something with his promoters.

 

[trips]

I disagree becasue we all know Top Rank loves to do in-house fighting for Pacquiao and there are no more top rank fighters left for Pacquiao to fight. There is Marquez, but Pacquiao has said a few times now he doesn't really want to fight him again because it's a "broken record" and "people don't want to see the same movie over and over". So the idea is to have Gambao-Rios build their names, the winner could take a somewhat safe fight at 140, presumably win and boom, that person (either gamboa or rios) is right there in the mix for pacquiao.

Think about it - who is on top rank's roster after Marquez that can fight Pacquiao? Look at the weight classes. The only guy is Mike Jones and he just doesn't have the name right now.

Sounds real nice but I don't know, Manny has his hands full with Bradley. Manny could lose(I'm picking Bradley to win) and if he does were looking at a rematch and maybe mayweather after that. That's how I look at it, Manny is getting tired of arum he might retire soon

 

[2-0-Sixx]

manny said he's going to retire in 2-3 fights. So, if the floyd fight doesn't happen next, which it wont, and yes assuming he beats bradley, Gamboa could certainly be next in line. Basically would have done the same thing as Bradley, who happens to be at the right place at the right time.

Of course there is a calculated risk there. Gamboa would have to beat Rios but like Gamboa has maintained for over a year now he's confident he can beat Rios and that is, or at least was, a risk he was willing to take to get Pac.

 

[JLMACN]

Rios looks like the Mexican Paul Wall....

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Carrying that muscle isn't always a good thing. It will tire him down in the rounds that Brandon comes on strong.

I'm glad Gamboa is sticking up for himself. Promoters hype the fight, try to make him go to the press conference, etc.
They were basically trying to corner him into signing something he wasn't comfortable with. They need to show more respect to the actual fighters.

It was Gamboa who wanted this fight in the first place. The terms must be really bad.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Even if they tried to make him sign an extension still gotta blame Gamboa for handling it in this way. He's had plenty of time to express any displeasure and not wait until the press conference. He's set to get over a million for this fight which is a career payday and he also has to realize this is HBO money, they bought this fight. Its not like he can just say hey I want $2 million, hbo has a budget and they aren't going to pay some crazy amount for this .

 

[T-Rip]

A fight of this magnitude should have been negotiated better. Im sure Gamboa thought Top Rank would sign on for this fight and not have to worry about resigning with them. Whatever more politics thats fucking the sport up.

 

[trips]

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[bigface]

Reading between the lines and following the history of Top Rank it looks like in order for Gamboa to get this fight with Rios, he will have to sign a mult-fight contract extention. And from what Top Rank said he still has two years left on his contract now without the extention. Or he's just trying to drop the co-promoter Ahmet Oner because two promoter are in his pockets. Sounds like Gamboa is fucked in other words.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Or maybe he just wants to team up with floyd. Looks like Gamboa fired Emmanuel Stewart and will be training with Roger mayweather.

Which is cool and all I guess but damn, he let a lot of people down. He's the one that requested the first press conference was in Miami and even the mayor was there. Not a good look. Probably wont see him fight till 2013.

 

[WYNO707X4]

Fuck gamboa lol salido by tko againg this saturday

 

[JLMACN]

Or maybe he just wants to team up with floyd. Looks like Gamboa fired Emmanuel Stewart and will be training with Roger mayweather.

Which is cool and all I guess but damn, he let a lot of people down. He's the one that requested the first press conference was in Miami and even the mayor was there. Not a good look. Probably wont see him fight till 2013.

This is a bad move IMO. Who else besides floyd has Roger taken to the promise land?

Stewart's resume is way deeper than his

 

[bigface]

From another site.

Gamboa and Oner came to an agreement between each other but when they got to Las Vegas to negotiate with Arum Oner did not stay true to his word and got on Arum's side instead of Gamboa. Gamboa got upset because nothing of what he had talked with Oner materialized and refused to sign. After that Oner and Gamboa got into an argument because Oner was telling Gamboa that he did not go to Las Vegas on vacation and that he must sign. One thing leads to another and Gamboa asks Oner if he is charging him for the hotel and food expenses during this "business trip" (which ONer was). Then Gamboa gets upset and him and his friend phoned floyd and mayweather asked him where he was located and sent on of his personal chauffeur to pick him up, , may asked him how much does he need for his hotel expenses and gives him the money to cover all of it.

When duque talked to gamboa regarding him signing the contract right after the news broke gamboa told him that it was all a lie that they probably did it to look good with hbo and then claim that yuro got hurt during training camp. According to Yuri Tony Gonzalez brought him the contract but the contract was fraudulent and not a single demand of yuri's had been met. (I think the contract even had a 5 year extension)

Top Rank tried to do the same thing to that other guy with the Margarito fight and extention in order to make the fight. Gamboa will have to sign a extention in order to get the fight Rios. Then when the other didn't sign the extention he was called a ducker and scared. I've seen this movie before. I hope Gamboa didn't sign the contract or he's fucked.