Boxing Vs UFC

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boxing fans have to get used to this sport taking over.. some cant deal with it.. the bob arums cant take the fact that mma is getting a huge fanbase. although someone earlier said he stopped training bc of all the douchbags and arrogant guys.. i agree with that... every bar/ night club is getting filled with these guys and their tapout shirts who think they can kick everyones ass bc they started watching ufc 100 at their buddies house and they think they are black belts all of the sudden... its annoying.. i cant hang with people like that man its fuckin annoying...
 
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It only takes something like 9 lbs of pressure to knock someone out.. not to mention in mma u have kicks, knees, elbows, punches, takedowns all comin at u, so of course ur gonna be exposed one way or another... in boxing all u have to worry about is punches, ur able to protect urself more..
 
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only in mma could a guy like brock get a title fight & become a world champion after only a couple fights lol that could never happen in boxing.
You might have a point on the title shot, but becoming a champ? Dude was an NCAA division 1 champion. If you don't know what that means you obviously don't know shit. He also almost became a professional football player in the NFL for the Vikings without any real prior experience. Is the NFL a joke too?? Brock Lesnar is a genetic freak and would double leg ANY heavyweight boxer to hell and pound their face into hamburger meat.


btw boxing > mma for me personally lately. Fighters like GSP(not as bad as the others but still), jake shields, rashad evans, jon fitch, etc. are making mma go in a new direction that, to me, is fucking wack. both sports are combat sports, but that's where any comparison should end.

cotto foreman > rashad rampage
 
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You might have a point on the title shot, but becoming a champ? Dude was an NCAA division 1 champion. If you don't know what that means you obviously don't know shit. He also almost became a professional football player in the NFL for the Vikings without any real prior experience. Is the NFL a joke too?? Brock Lesnar is a genetic freak and would double leg ANY heavyweight boxer to hell and pound their face into hamburger meat.


btw boxing > mma for me personally lately. Fighters like GSP(not as bad as the others but still), jake shields, rashad evans, jon fitch, etc. are making mma go in a new direction that, to me, is fucking wack. both sports are combat sports, but that's where any comparison should end.

cotto foreman > rashad rampage
props to you homey, i always thought you were way more of a mma fan
 
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I like MMA more mainly because Boxing is obviously one dimensional. i like watching a quick 15 minute fight that usually doesnt last as long and not really knowing what to expect. there are some MMA fighters that kind of fuck up the experience but if you had understanding on whats going on when a guy is "laying on" the other guy then it is still entertaining to me.
 
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Its not even that, i watched UFC from the very beginning and the "experience" way back when was "wow i cant believe im watching this", it seemed like underground fighting shit that was kinda like fight to your death type shit. Obviously it eventually got banned from ppv and thats when UFC toned it down way to much but they did what they had to do to get it where it is today. Now that the UFC has risen so much its time to get rid of some rules or change them cuz its so mainstream now that theres no way it will ever be banned from TV again. Dana White also was a fool for getting rid of Pride entirely, could have made a killing a lot more outside the US and really controlled things.

Boxing has it issues no doubt but theres so many good fighters that really had to prove themselves to get where there at and its not so corrupt anymore. Theres way more money in boxing also, boxers make so much more for a fight its not even funny.
 
May 19, 2005
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I admit I was a big fan of the UFC in the 90's. To me, that was truly mixed martial arts. To see a Sumo vs 170 pound kick boxer. lol. I remember there were "no rules" except for eye gouging and nut shots. And even then it was only a $50 fine!! And those guys back then had to fight 2-3 times in one night. Those ppv's were almost always worth it (the only bad thing was when the guys would be on the ground for a half hour, that sucked).

Not saying the new rules are a bad thing, but as result you see a lot of more well rounded guys- jacks of all trades but masters of nothing. Except for the elite guys of course.
spoken like a champ,i still remember the first couple UFC's.that shit would give me straight shivers,closest thing to mortal combat

we need a wave of scary big ass heavyweights to come back in boxing though
 
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LMAO @ the comparisons...fuckin halarious

Anyways I respect both, but theres plenty of good "boxer" styled fighters in the UFC..Some are just a little more versatile and can combine it with wrestling (although I'm sure a boxer could be a great boxer if he trained for no more than a couple months imo)
 
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i still think the US still lightyears behind in the MMA world. for yall to like the old UFC more than the new one just shows that you guys dont appreciate how much the sport has grown. the only reason boxing is still top dog in the US is because, similar to basketball, its an american dominated sport so we pretty much grew up with it. but in places like Brazil, ppl treat Jiujitsu just the same, same goes with a sport like Futbol. as much i love boxing too, i cant really name a fight i really want to see except mayweather vs pacquiao. in MMA, the list goes on from machida vs rampage to jose aldo vs bj penn or anderson silva vs gsp and fedor vs brock, etc....
 
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You might have a point on the title shot, but becoming a champ? Dude was an NCAA division 1 champion.
I understand that, but you don't see OLYMPIC Gold medalists in boxing, with hundreds of amateur fights (and golden glove champs, etc) go straight to the top after 2 pro fights. Just doesn't happen. There is a ranking system, despite how accomplished ones background was.


Brock Lesnar is a genetic freak and would double leg ANY heavyweight boxer to hell and pound their face into hamburger meat.
Come on, this statement is pointless. Brock would get manhandled in a boxing ring by a low level boxer.

Everyone should know the logic by now - MMA fighter beats boxer in the cage. Boxer beats mma fighter in the ring. It's that simple.

btw boxing > mma for me personally lately. Fighters like GSP(not as bad as the others but still), jake shields, rashad evans, jon fitch, etc. are making mma go in a new direction that, to me, is fucking wack. both sports are combat sports, but that's where any comparison should end.

cotto foreman > rashad rampage
What do you mean by the new direction those fighters are taking mma in?
 
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^ i think he means that those fighters are bringing more strategy & technique aka "dry hump your opponent on the ground" in order to get the safe win... which i agree is fuckin wack. the reason i got into mma was because of guys like fedor, bj penn, silva & chuck liddell now everyone is going the gsp route boring.
 
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only in mma could a guy like brock get a title fight & become a world champion after only a couple fights lol that could never happen in boxing.
Really? It could NEVER happen in boxing? Saensak Muangsurin might have something to say about that considering he won a title in his 3rd fight as a professional that's one less fight that Brock had ..

.. and let's not forget Olympic gold medalist Pete Rademacher who made his professional debut against Floyd Patterson for Patterson's title even though he was beat down in the fight he even put Patterson on his trunks.

Never is a strong word when you don't know some history.
 
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^^those two fights are like 50 years ago, not very likely in today's world of boxing. I can see it maybe happening with some of those Japanese titlists in the lower weights where title holders often take on some very inexperienced guys, but for the large part, you will never* see a 2-1 guy take on a real champ.

I mean, imagine if a 2-1 guy fought Wlad or Vitali Klitschko.
 
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I believe the people that don't care for MMA do not truly understand the technical aspects of each discipline and the same goes for a person that doesn’t know the extremely technical aspects of boxing, that person probably doesn’t care for boxing too much.

There is not a better sport it is all opinion based, ask the Americans which is better football or soccer and we all know what the majority will say now ask the rest of the world which is better and the answer will be the opposite.

On top of all that why does one have to choose between the two, I like both but prefer MMA, I also like hockey, soccer, basketball, baseball but prefer American football above all.

and.............People do not forgot just because MMA is so huge right now......Don't forget that it is still a fairly new sport what 20 or less years and 10 or less years since it has been sanctioned through commissions, I mean how old is boxing, how many funny and non logical things most likely happened the first 10-20 years boxing existed, like someone already brought up.
 
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I understand that, but you don't see OLYMPIC Gold medalists in boxing, with hundreds of amateur fights (and golden glove champs, etc) go straight to the top after 2 pro fights. Just doesn't happen. There is a ranking system, despite how accomplished ones background was.
It's different because in boxing boxers are seasoned by beating lower competition. How often do top prospects come in and start fighting the best of the best? Never. In MMA dudes come in with 10 professional fights and are ready to face A level competition. This is probably due to boxers being better at their sport than MMA fighters. MMA is still very young and things will change in the future. At the moment a lot of the fighters specialize in 1 aspect of MMA and it allows them to rise to the top(ie division 1 college wrestlers). This will change in the future as the sport grows and evolves and brings in better athletes and people get better at MMA overall and not specific styles like wrestling, jiu jitsu, muay thai, etc.


Come on, this statement is pointless. Brock would get manhandled in a boxing ring by a low level boxer.

Everyone should know the logic by now - MMA fighter beats boxer in the cage. Boxer beats mma fighter in the ring. It's that simple.
This is all true. I just meant you can't deny his fighting ability cause in a nhb combat scenario he'd destroy just about anyone.


What do you mean by the new direction those fighters are taking mma in?
This new breed of fighters that abuse the rules sanctioned by athletic commissions. No killer instinct, no risk, just abuse the "octagon control" rule by using your wrestling to pin someone against the cage or take someone down and sit in their guard. No desire to finish the fight at all. It's fucking WACK!