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lol sorry naner! I seen the books in your sig and put them on my list awhile ago. but foreal, teddy atlas is my favorite by far with his fight tips and the way he comments on fights...

Ill be picking all these books up from either the library or amazon. I'll let you guys know what i think. thanks.
 
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heh was just fucking around. Tunney might be one of the best out the bunch based on boxing history alone. There was a lot of shit that I didn't know going into it. Even though the author is a bit biased towards the old school fighters and pot shots whenever he gets the chance.

Odlanier Solis is also fighting on the undercard of this event. Hopefully the UK stream plays it.
 
May 13, 2002
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So this is a title fight for Gamboa?????

Yuriorkis Gamboa Already Targets Pacquiao


When unbeaten super featherweight phenomenon Yuriorkis Gamboa (9-0-0, 8 kos) steps into the ring against Darling Jimenez (23-2-2, 14 kos) this Saturday (May 17th) in Primm, Nevada, it will not only be the HBO debut of the Cuban Olympic gold medallist, but also his chance to win the WBC international championship. The title had been laid down by none other than Phillipinian superstar Manny Pacquiao before “Pacman” stripped the world title from Juan Manuel Marquez on March 15th.

“Of course, it is a great honor to fight for this belt”, states Gamboa. “Especially as this in only my tenth professional fight. I am glad that my performances so far have convinced the sanctioning bodies to put me very high in the ratings and I am willing to prove that I am the best boxer in the world.” At the moment Gamboa is rated on No. 3 in the WBA and on No. 4 in the WBC world rankings.

"I know that Jimenez is a tough opponent”, continues Gamboa, “but I also know that to be the best you have to beat the best. And that is what I will do. After winning the WBC international title I will try to get my hands on the belt Pacquiao’s wearing right now. Though I hope that he doesn’t put it down so I will have the chance to take it from him in the ring.”

Along with Gamboa vs. Jimenez the triple main event of “The Night of the Rising Stars” at Terrible's Primm Valley Casino Resorts features James Kirkland (21-0-0, 18 kos) vs. Eromosele Albert (21-1-0, 10 kos) and Alfredo Angulo (12-0-0, 9 kos) vs. Richard Gutierrez (24-1-0, 14 kos). Promoted by Gary Shaw Productions, LLC and Arena Box-Promotion the show will be featured on HBO’s “Boxing After Dark”. It will also be broadcasted LIVE on German sports network DSF.
 
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So this is a title fight for Gamboa?????

Yuriorkis Gamboa Already Targets Pacquiao


When unbeaten super featherweight phenomenon Yuriorkis Gamboa (9-0-0, 8 kos) steps into the ring against Darling Jimenez (23-2-2, 14 kos) this Saturday (May 17th) in Primm, Nevada, it will not only be the HBO debut of the Cuban Olympic gold medallist, but also his chance to win the WBC international championship. The title had been laid down by none other than Phillipinian superstar Manny Pacquiao before “Pacman” stripped the world title from Juan Manuel Marquez on March 15th.

“Of course, it is a great honor to fight for this belt”, states Gamboa. “Especially as this in only my tenth professional fight. I am glad that my performances so far have convinced the sanctioning bodies to put me very high in the ratings and I am willing to prove that I am the best boxer in the world.” At the moment Gamboa is rated on No. 3 in the WBA and on No. 4 in the WBC world rankings.

"I know that Jimenez is a tough opponent”, continues Gamboa, “but I also know that to be the best you have to beat the best. And that is what I will do. After winning the WBC international title I will try to get my hands on the belt Pacquiao’s wearing right now. Though I hope that he doesn’t put it down so I will have the chance to take it from him in the ring.”

Along with Gamboa vs. Jimenez the triple main event of “The Night of the Rising Stars” at Terrible's Primm Valley Casino Resorts features James Kirkland (21-0-0, 18 kos) vs. Eromosele Albert (21-1-0, 10 kos) and Alfredo Angulo (12-0-0, 9 kos) vs. Richard Gutierrez (24-1-0, 14 kos). Promoted by Gary Shaw Productions, LLC and Arena Box-Promotion the show will be featured on HBO’s “Boxing After Dark”. It will also be broadcasted LIVE on German sports network DSF.
I really don't want Gamboa to fight Pacquiao anytime soon much less hold a title. I'm not too big of a fan of rushing fighters or having him hold a title while you're still trying to move him along. I can give several examples of guys who showed a lot of promise that were moved extremely fast and ended having mediocre careers .. Fernando Vargas comes to mind.
 
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true. On the other hand, you can be a title holder and still carefully move up and carefully select your opponents. Floyd Mayweather jr. is a good example (I think he won his first title within 2 years of turning pro, against Hernandez then defended the title against Angel Manfredy, Carlos Gerena, Juuko, and Rios, none of which were serious threats to Floyd).
 
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Should someone with a 9 fight professional record (10 after this weekend) really get a shot like that?

I don't know that judging a fighter based on the number of fights is a valid criteria either, it just doesn't seem like could have earned your stripes after only 9 pro bouts.
 
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well, i'm not sure how high he should be ranked, but for 9 pro fights his opposition has been pretty good. His last fight was against Johnnie Edwards who was 13-1, Adailton De Jesus was 19-2 and prior to that he fought Samuel Kebede who was 25-1. And he annihilated them.

If those three guys were ranked in the WBA or WBC (or whatever) then I suppose he does deserve a high ranking.

I don't know what they were ranked though.
 
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true. On the other hand, you can be a title holder and still carefully move up and carefully select your opponents. Floyd Mayweather jr. is a good example (I think he won his first title within 2 years of turning pro, against Hernandez then defended the title against Angel Manfredy, Carlos Gerena, Juuko, and Rios, none of which were serious threats to Floyd).
That's wack for a title holder though. It sucks to basically put a title on hold because you're still trying to build a guy up. Gamboa has a little over a year of being a pro and at the rate he's fighting by next year he could definitely be ready for a legit title shot. I'm a big fan of Gamboa and don't want to see his career ruined or tarnished.
 
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I agree with you, I don't like to see prospects moved to quickly either but the only thing though about Gamboa is he isn't like too many other prospects, I mean he has over 400 amateur fights, he's 26 years old and he just seems ready.
Exactly.

Does someone with over 400 amateur fights need to be strung along gently? His last 9 fights weren't against push overs. Most fighters turn pro and dedicate their first 10 fights to building up slowly against very weak and untested opposition. The sanctioning bodies are taking all of this into account and know very well that if he can impose the kind of fight he has on his last 9 opponents on his 10th, 11th, so on--then obviously the transition from amateur>pro isn't affecting his performance.

I wouldn't mind if they gave him a shot at the title, if he loses he grows to become a better boxer, if he wins hes the new superstar. Its a win win.
 
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Good points.

And if, let's say Gamboa did lose, like you said he can grow from that. A very young and inexperienced Boom Boom Mancini was pushed very fast into stardom and lost his first title fight against legendary Alexis Arguello, who at the time was 72-5, Mancini got KO'd in the 14th round. He learned from that, and was back up on top few a few fights later, getting a belt from Arturo Frias.
 
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Amateur isn't professional. Amateur boxing is more of a point system from punches landed and nothing remotely close to the punishment that professional boxing can bring. Also you have to take into consideration that a lot of the guys Gamboa fought (along with many other elite cuban amateurs) were actually amateur while they were fighting as "professional amateurs".

I'm not saying he should be brought along slowly .. 2 years as professional and fighting for a world title is great time .. 1 year is pointless. Even outstanding hyped fighters like Pernell Whitaker, who fought for a world title at 15-0 (and lost), took 4 years before that even happened.

Trust me you'll find no one else that thinks Gamboa will smoke everyone in his way. I'm just not a fan of moving fighters with such potential in a dangerous way.
 
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From what I've seen with Gamboa...he is more than ready for pro boxing. You can see it in the way he moves and the look on his face when hes fighting. He has that air of confidence and a highly developed sense of style that most fighters spend their entire career working to fruition.
 
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From what I've seen with Gamboa...he is more than ready for pro boxing. You can see it in the way he moves and the look on his face when hes fighting. He has that air of confidence and a highly developed sense of style that most fighters spend their entire career working to fruition.
I never said he wasn't ready for pro boxing. I'm saying I don't think he's ready for elite level boxers yet. Gamboa hasn't faced anyone yet that's going to take his punches and swing back just as hard. Trust me when I say I've been following dude since I heard he dipped and got signed and I without a doubt think he's a future hall of famer.

Several boxers that show grace start off slow (as they should). What's the rush? Is Gamboa getting deported soon and no one told me? Is he suffering from a terminal illness preventing him for long term fighting? I don't get the need to rush such a talented prospect such as Gamboa. I'm not saying move him along Andre Ward style but throwing him in with someone like Pacquiao or Guzman is craziness at this point.
 
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I agree that throwing him against pacman or guzman is crazy, and I think he and his handlers know that. Basically my point was that they can be smart about it, i.e Floyd Mayweather style, where he can pick up a title here and there without risking too much while doing so. And there isn't anything wrong with that. Especially now that Pacman, Guzman and Marquez are all leaving the division, it's wide open for Gamboa. He can win a belt, defend it a few times and then be on to bigger and better things.

I seriously doubt his handlers would try to set up a fight with pacquaio this early, it's just talk and it brings attention which I think is what they want.