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Well that and I more so meant would fools fight him and take a chance at losing to a gay guy? That would be a big embarrassment Im sure. Got Em!!
Well, one of the greatest fighters to ever live was gay and I don't think it was an embarrassment for all those guys he beat. Now he wasn't openly gay, but everyone in the boxing world knew he was gay/bi-sexual, it's just in those days the media had respect and didn't report trashy stuff like that.

In fact, Benny Paret called Emile Griffith a maricón at the weigh in which sent Griffith into a rage, having to be restrained by multiple people. By fight night, Griffith was so angry he put such a brutal beating on Paret he literally killed him in the ring. One of the most brutal beatings you'll ever see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBNQNwCyYqk
 
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Well, one of the greatest fighters to ever live was gay and I don't think it was an embarrassment for all those guys he beat. Now he wasn't openly gay, but everyone in the boxing world knew he was gay, it's just in those days the media had respect and didn't report trashy stuff like that.

In fact, Benny Paret called Emile Griffith a maricón at the weigh in which sent Griffith into a rage, having to be restrained by multiple people. By fight night, Griffith was so angry he put such a brutal beating on Paret he literally killed him in the ring. One of the most brutal beatings you'll ever see:

End of last Griffith Paret fight with commentary - YouTube
Damn thats crazy. I never knew about this I dont believe. I think my uncle may have told me about this back in the day but I never really looked into it. Crazy shit. Got Em!!
 
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fasho. he's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet I hear from everyone who's met him. he's losing his mind a bit last several years (pugilistic dementia) but very loving, kind person. fantastic fighter, one of the best ever. check out his documentary if u can from a few years back called Ring of Fire: The Emile Griffith Story, great watch. I think naner sent that to me some years ago.

That fight was aired live on ABC and was the first time someone died in boxing on TV. Boxing took bad hit as a result. "ABC, which televised the fatal bout, ended its boxing broadcasts and other U.S. networks followed; the sport would not return to free television until the 1970s. Goldstein, the referee for this fight, would never again referee a fight."
 
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fasho. he's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet I hear from everyone who's met him. he's losing his mind a bit last several years (pugilistic dementia) but very loving, kind person. fantastic fighter, one of the best ever. check out his documentary if u can from a few years back called Ring of Fire: The Emile Griffith Story, great watch. I think naner sent that to me some years ago.

That fight was aired live on ABC and was the first time someone died in boxing on TV. Boxing took bad hit as a result. "ABC, which televised the fatal bout, ended its boxing broadcasts and other U.S. networks followed; the sport would not return to free television until the 1970s. Goldstein, the referee for this fight, would never again referee a fight."
Yea man thats a trip. Didnt Mancini kill someone in the ring also? I remember sumthin like that right? I havnt looked it up but for sum reason that popped into my head. Got Em!!
 
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Yea man thats a trip. Didnt Mancini kill someone in the ring also? I remember sumthin like that right? I havnt looked it up but for sum reason that popped into my head. Got Em!!
Oh yeah, absolutely brutal fight against Duk Koo Kim. Kim's mother later committed suicide four months after the fight, and the referee, Richard Green, who was heavily criticized for not stopping the fight sooner, committed suicide about 6 months later as well! Mancini also fell into a deep depression and to this day says every year starting around October he feels very depressed, as the fight occurred in November. Probably one of the biggest tragedies ever in boxing.

Great ESPN documentary called Triumph and Tragedy - The Ray Mancini story, which covers that fight in great detail and Mancini tells his side of the story which is very powerful stuff.

Triumph and Tragedy - The Ray Mancini story (part 4) - YouTube

Also Duk Koo Kim became a bit of a hero in Korea and there is a fantastic Korean move from 2002 called "Champion" which is the story of Duk Koo Kim.

 

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Yea man I actually remember that now. Its been a while but yea that was messed up. Boxing was brutal and over time they have made adjustments due to safety issues. Got Em!!
 
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Trout: It’s time for Cotto to pass the torch, he’s done
Published October 8, 2012 | 1 Comment

Listening to former four-time and three-division world champion Miguel Cotto guarantee a victory against him, Austin “No Doubt” Trout had mixed emotions.

The pair will meet for Trout’s World Boxing Association (WBA) Super Welterweight World Championship on Saturday, December 1 at Madison Square Garden in New York City and live on SHOWTIME.

“I know this fight will be a changing of the guard. I’m going to use my victory over him as an announcement that boxing has a new superstar,” said Trout. “But even though boxing is a game where the strongest survive and it’s my time, I still feel a little bad for him and his fans. I’ve been a Cotto fan and he’s had a great career, but I hope they all know this is 2012. They’re not going there to watch their hero win. They’re going there to watch him pass the torch.”

Trout says he hopes when the fight is over, he can let Cotto know it wasn’t personal and that every great fighter goes through this in time.

“In 1991, Sugar Ray Leonard fought an unknown champion right there in Madison Square Garden. He was supposed to be just tuning up for big fights on the horizon. But instead, he took a beating and that was his last fight as a serious threat to any belts. 12 rounds later, boxing had a new star, Terry Norris. That’s what this fight will be about: History repeating itself.”

Respectful, likeable and active in several charities, Trout says he hopes The Big Apple fight fans will get behind him as they did Cotto in his glory days.

“It’s such a lifelong dream to be fighting a superstar in the ‘Mecca of Boxing’. It really is a dream come true and I hope my victory is impressive enough where the fans in this great city show me some of the love they’ve showed Cotto throughout his great run. I’m honored to be part of such an historic event and happy that my time is about to begin.”

“Showdown: Cotto vs. Trout” is a 12 round battle between Four-Time and Three-Division World Champion Miguel Cotto and WBA Super Welterweight World Champion Austin Trout taking place on December 1 at Madison Square Garden in New York City. The event is promoted by Miguel Cotto Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions in association with Greg Cohen Promotions, sponsored by Corona and will be televised live on SHOWTIME.

Tickets priced at $500, $300, $200, $100 and $50 are on sale now. They can be purchased at the Madison Square Garden Box Office, all Ticketmaster outlets, Ticketmaster charge by phone (866-858-0008) and online at www.ticketmaster.com or Madison Square Garden - Official Web Site.

Hailing from Caguas, Puerto Rico, Cotto (37-3, 30 KO’s) has held a world title every year since 2004 while winning 16 of the 18 world championship bouts in which he has fought. Puerto Rico’s most exciting fighter and one of its greatest of all time, Cotto held the World Boxing Organization (WBO) Junior Welterweight crown from 2004-2006, successfully defending it six times before vacating it in order to fight for and capture the WBA Welterweight title at the end of 2006, a title he held for nearly as long. After controversially losing the WBA title to Antonio Margarito in July 2008, Cotto won his second welterweight belt in February 2009, knocking out Michael Jennings in the fifth round to become the WBO Welterweight champion. He lost the title in his second defense in November 2009, but captured the WBA Super Welterweight title in June of 2010 at Yankee Stadium in New York by stopping then-undefeated defending champion Yuri Foreman. Cotto successfully defended that title by stopping Two-Division World Champion Ricardo “El Matador” Mayorga in the 12th round in March of 2011 and then avenged his loss to Margarito in December of 2011, once again retaining his title and giving him true peace of mind. He has also added to his huge fan base by giving Floyd “Money” Mayweather and Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao their toughest fights to date. Next on his plate is Austin Trout, and if he defeats the New Mexico southpaw, it will be another world championship added to his Hall of Fame resume.

27-year-old Austin “No Doubt” Trout (25-0, 14 KO’s) has been boxing since the age of 10, but the 2004 United States amateur champion didn’t begin making noise in the sport until he began mowing through opponent after opponent while maintaining an undefeated professional record. By the tail end of 2009, he was 20-0 and the WBA international, WBA Fedelatin, and WBC Continental Americas super welterweight champion, but fights were hard to come by. In February of 2011 though, Trout emerged and captured a world championship by defeating Rigoberto “El Español” Alvarez, Canelo’s older brother, for the WBA Interim Super Welterweight World Championship. He has since been elevated to full champion and defended his belt successfully three times against David “Destroyer” Lopez, Frank “The Italian Stallion” LoPorto and Delvin Rodriguez, setting up the fight of his life on December 1 against Miguel Cotto.
 
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Top Rank Signs 2012 Olympian Felix Verdejo
Published October 8, 2012 | 1 Comment

Todd duBoef, president of Top Rank, announced that 2012 Puerto Rico Olympian Felix Verdejo has inked a long-term promotional agreement with Top Rank.

“Felix is a young, exciting athlete who won many gold medals as an amateur. Between his pedigree and our expertise in developing champions, we anticipate the evolution of Puerto Rico’s next future star,” said Top Rank President Todd duBoef.

Top Rank has a very special relationship with the boxing-rich country of Puerto Rico, which was nurtured twelve years ago with the signings of 2000 Puerto Rican Olympic Team members and future world champions Miguel Cotto and Ivan Calderon.

The 19-year-old Felix Verdejo, a lightweight, won two fights at the Olympic Games in London before losing to eventual Gold Medal winner, and two-time Olympic Gold Medalist, Vasyl Lomachenko of Ukraine.

“My wish is to become a good professional fighter and make my country proud of my accomplishments. I know that Top Rank is the right company to take me where I want to go,” said Verdejo.

Verdejo is represented by manager Ricky Marquez and will train in Puerto Rico. The date and place of his professional debut will be announced soon.

“I am very pleased to have Felix sign with Top Rank, they have a long and outstanding tradition in developing and promoting fighters and we look forward to a long and successful relationship with them,” said Marquez.

Verdejo will be added to Top Rank’s current stable of Puerto Rican boxers which includes two-time world champion Juan Manuel “Juanma” Lopez; world champion Roman “Rocky” Martinez; former world champion and current world ranked, Wilfredo Vazquez Jr.; contender Luis Cruz and prospects Camilo Perez and Jonathan Gonzalez.

In addition to the Top Rank promoted fighters, Puerto Rico has also produced legendary world champions Felix “Tito” Trinidad, Wilfredo Gomez, and Wilfredo Benitez.
 
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Thomas “The Hitman” Hearns: “Floyd Mayweather Jr. would have a lot of problems with a prime Hitman”
Published October 6, 2012 | 155 Comments

Thomas Hearns Floyd Mayweather Jr By Joseph Herron: Whenever anyone strikes up a passionate mythical debate between fighters facing off from different eras, one match-up always enters the conversation: “How would Floyd Mayweather Jr. at Welterweight fair against the 147 pound version of the six division world champion, Thomas “The Hitman” Hearns, circa 1981?”

Earlier this week on “The Pugilist KOrner” radio show, the Hall of Fame fighter shared his thoughts on the hypothetical prime for prime pairing.

“You know how I fought. And if a man couldn’t deal with that, then I would just have to say goodnight to him,” professed the legendary “Hitman” Tommy Hearns. “That was my thing; to put everybody to sleep. It didn’t matter who I faced, it was almost a guarantee that I would put them to sleep.”

“If I hit you, you were going to sleep. That’s just the way it was.”

Although the question seemed very intriguing to the boxing legend, Tommy was doubtful that a fight would have ever taken place even if both men had fought in the same era.

“I don’t know if that fight would have ever happened. Because you have to remember, Floyd is a lot smaller than I am. If we ever did fight, my size would have created major problems for him; I have a long reach and a good jab. And if I touched you with the jab, that meant the right hand was coming.”

“I have a long reach, and I’m going to reach you. If I could touch him with the end of my jab, then that meant the right hand was coming. That’s the truth. If I kept any man at the end of my jab, that right hand would find you. Because the right hand was always right behind that left.”

The 2012 International Boxing Hall of Fame inductee had a thunderbolt in his right glove and was a stone-cold killer in the ring. Although Hearns believes that his talents in the ring were God given, he admits that it took a lot of hard work and dedication to develop that talent.

“Yes, God gave me this talent. But it was entirely up to me what I did with it. You have to develop that talent. You have to work hard to showcase that talent. It wasn’t easy. My trainer Emanuel Steward always insisted that everything had to be perfect.”

While Tommy’s days in the ring are a fond memory now, the legendary fighter is currently trying his hand as a promoter and is staging a fight card in Taylor, Michigan on October 12th.

“If you want to see a great fight card, come out to the Taylor Sportsplex on Friday, October 12th. My son Ronald is going to be fighting in the main event, and there will be eight fights total on the bout sheet. Every fight is going to be very exciting.”

“If there’s a fighter in boxing right now who has the ability to fight like me, it’s my son Ronald Hearns. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Come out and see him in action. Ringside tickets are as low as $70, so there’s no excuse not to be ringside for this great fight card.”
 
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Naazim Richardson: "I don’t think Pacquiao can beat Marquez. I picked Marquez in all 3 fights and I thought he won all 3!"
By Jenna Jay, OnTheRopes Boxing Radio, Doghouse Boxing (Oct 8, 2012) Doghouse Boxing
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In recent weeks I have had the pleasure of having top boxing trainer Naazim Richardson join me on my ‘On The Ropes’ boxing radio show for exclusive interviews. On my latest edition Naazim discussed some of boxing’s biggest topics, giving his view on Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., the final round of that fight, why he believed Sergio fought the way he did and his views on Andre Ward’s future. He also spoke out on why he believes Pacquiao chose a fourth Marquez bout, Amir Khan's switch of trainers from Freddie Roach to Virgil Hunter, and his thoughts on the best way to bring young fighters along. Here is what Naazim had to say. Read on, but don't forget to listen to the full show by clicking the icon embedded on this page. Enjoy!

Jenna Jay: Naazim, the last time we saw you in the ring was working the corner of Sergio Martinez in his title bout about Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. What brought you to be in that position that night?

Naazim Richardson: Well you know. It was no real big surprise with Naz, I work with fighters, and Sergio we had talked a few times, and they asked if I would assist him on a few things, you know I had no problem, Sergio is a kind of fighter that I am a fan of as well, so you know I had no problem helping this guy out anyway I could. He is an outstanding athlete. I told him this fight could be very similar, to a bigger but a less experienced Chavez against a bigger stronger Meldrick Taylor, and it almost came down to that, it went to the wire.

Jenna: You mention it went down to the wire. What did you think of the 12th round?

Naazim: If Chavez were to go out like that lets in the 7th round, come the 8th round, and Martinez would of survived, Sergio would of knocked him out!

Jenna: Why do you think Sergio fought the way he did in that round?

Naazim: I got a fighter, if any of his losses, would have been on television, he would be a star, if Steve Cunningham’s losses had been on national TV or a major network, he would be a super star. Because he gets up and tries to rumble, he ain’t going to just get up, he is going to get up and try to win. I asked Sergio Martinez, why didn't you hold when you went down, and he said everybody else would of held, because every other fight would of did that. He said 'I showed them I am not like every other fighter', I said 'okay, well you put the whole team on your back, and rolled the dice as far as the table, but it paned out for you'. But I understand his point, and I think the (Chad) Dawson fight directly affected Sergio, he just watches these young fighters quit, and he said 'I ain’t like that'. We’re not cut from that cloth.

Jenna: Naazim, the last time I had you on, you said we have not seen the best of Andre Ward. Now after such a dominate performance over Chad Dawson, do you think we have seen it?

Naazim: Now the problem with Andre Ward is going to be finding up match ups. A match up to see the best of him, what you might see is, you might see Ward’s fight looking like a bully, you know with some of these fights to come, you know they may have to manufacture motivation, for the public for the people to be really interested, because Ward is a class, he is a high level class, and it’s hard for one guy to face a throwback, when the other guy he is fighting is probably a throwback. Ward is cut from another cloth, he is cut from that older school, he is cut from the Bernard Hopkins, Hagler era, he is really cut from that throwback era.

Jenna: Naazim in recent weeks it was announced that Manny Pacquiao has decided to have a fourth fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, instead of a rematch with Tim Bradley. Why do you think he choose what most believe will be a tougher fight to win?

Naazim: Sometimes when you are as religious as Pacquiao is, sometimes you almost feel like what goes around comes around and that might be the reason he wants to clear the Marquez slate, for certain and for sure. Pacquiao might be saying to himself if we can get this thing right, and clearly win or Marquez finally gets his decision then maybe things will be set right with me and Tim Bradley. That’s some personal stuff, it’s about a man reaching a point in his career where he can do the things that he wants to do. I always tell young people we do what we have to do until we can do what we want to do, and Pacquiao is at a place he can do what he wants to do, and maybe he and his team want a clean W over Marquez.

Jenna: Who do you think wins a Pacquiao vs Marquez IV bout?

Naazim: I don’t think Pacquaio can beat Marquez. I picked Marquez in all 3 fights, I though he won all 3 fights! The fight that he got knock down 3 times in the first round, I thought he got up and won every single round after that knock down. I though he won every round after that. I remember watching that fight, actually getting a piece of paper, and scoring by round by round, and though he won every single round.

Jenna: Amir Khan, who use to work with Manny Pacquiao, has now officially changed trainers and will now be working with Virgil Hunter. Do you think that will be a good move?

Naazim: Anyone who works with Virgil is a good move, Virgil is a highly competent trainer, he is a good human being who just happens to know boxing very well, so I hope that pans out for Amir Khan. I think the young kid still has a lot to offer, he also has all the attributes himself for being a throwback fighter himself, because he will do everything you ask of him, fight anybody, take fights, he’s taken fights he didn’t have too, because of his high profile status in England, he can go over there, and be just a super star. I think he will fine., I think he is in great hands with Virgil Hunter

Jenna: Naazim, being that you have worked with some much young talent, what do you think is the best way to move a fighter along?

Naazim: I like guys who take that slow progression into moving into top contention. You take guy like Ward who can take leaps and bounds, and he could do steps, you know what I mean. It’s when you move a guy too fast sometimes, because they have the talent. Some of these kids they have the talent, there are kids out there that are talented enough where you could probably throw them out there, and they can probably beat one of the champions right now, but than what? You know what I mean. I always considered Jermain Taylor an exceptional talent, but if you move him to quick enough, its like taking out a tv dinner out the oven to early, its all brown out in the edges, but if you stick you fork in the middle, its still frozen, because it’s still not done yet. Let’s walk the walk..
 
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Adrien’s Problem: Broner Plays Race Card, Suggests African American Boxers Don’t Get Credit

By Johnny Walker

Pity poor Adrien “The Problem” Broner.

The 23-year-old super featherweight soon-to-turn lightweight fighter from Ohio, who has HBO backing him as one of its next boxing superstars, has decided he’s a victim.

Speaking to RingTV.com of his upcoming lightweight debut against WBC lightweight champion Antonio Demarco (Nov. 17 in Atlantic City), Broner had this to say:



“I mean, [Demarco's] the world champion at 135, and he just came off of some great stoppages, and so whatever I go in there and do, of course I want them to give me what I deserve. But just being me, and, you know, I’m an African American.

“So, you know, they’re going to always find something wrong, and they’re going to always find something to say. So that’s why I just do what I do, and I don’t even worry about the critics, man.
When pressed to clarify what he meant, Broner poured more gasoline on the fire:

“I really don’t want to get into it because I don’t want to make it a racial thing because I love the Hispanics, I love the Mexicans. You know, I love all races of people.

“But at the end of the day, man, we all know that it’s so hard for us. It’s so hard. I don’t really want to get into it, but you know what’s going
 
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Roach: Pacquiao has lost killer instinct
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October 8, 2012

Manny Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach admits the multi-weight world champion is in desperate need of a knockout against Juan Manuel Marquez to restore his reputation.

Pacquiao takes on the WBO light-welterweight champion for a fourth time on December 8 in Las Vegas after all three of their previous meetings - a draw and two Pacquiao wins - ended with contentious verdicts.

When the pair step into the ring in Las Vegas later this year, both boxers will be going for broke, looking for a knockout to avoid another disputable decision, which Roach believes will benefit Pacquiao.

"Marquez will be more hittable and not so much a counter-puncher. I think we need a knockout to secure [Pacquiao's] No. 1 spot in the world. He needs to be impressive and a knockout would be impressive," Roach was quoted as saying by boxingscene.com.

"In the first one [Pacquiao] was aggressive in the beginning of that fight. In the second fight we had one knockdown and in the third fight we had none. He just lost that killer instinct. In the first fight he was trying to knock him out, but Marquez is very resilient also.

"You have to take that factor in also. We need to bring back that killer instinct where he finishes guys like he used to."

Despite Marquez's protests that he deserved to win all three previous encounters, Roach was insistent that Pacquiao had done enough, but admitted a knockout would settle the matter once and for all.

"[Marquez] lost those fights and I still had Manny winning by a little bit. Manny started well and he finished well," Roach said. "A lot of fans thought that we lost [the third] fight so we have to redeem ourselves."
 
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Team Canelo: We Are Interested In Fighting Martinez.


By Rene Umanzor

José 'Chepo' Reynoso, the trainer of WBC 154-pound champion Saúl "Canelo" Álvarez (41-0-1, 30KOs), is confident his boxer can defeat Sergio Martinez (50-2-2, 28KOs), the WBC champion at 160-pounds.

On September 15th in Las Vegas, Martinez defeated Canelo's countryman Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (46-1-1, 32KOs), while a few miles away Canelo beat down Josesito Lopez over five rounds.

Following their respective fights, Martinez mentioned Canelo as a potential opponent in early 2013. Martinez, a former junior middleweight champion, is willing to return to 154-pounds to make the fight.

"I believe and I am confident that Canelo would beat Martinez, and since the team of 'Maravilla' believe he can win - it will be history that proves which of us is right. We are interested in the fight because we know that Saul can beat him," said Chepo.

"[Canelo and Chavez] have two different styles . It would be a different fight because Canelo is not [the same kind of fighter as] Junior. We want the best fighters so Saul can write his own legacy by facing the best champions and Martinez is one of them. If the people want to see that fight, then it must be pursued because it would be spectacular and do good business."
 
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Marquez has to be the best fighter getting the better of his opponent after he gets knocked down. That heart that "Rocky" is described as having even though its a fictional character. I cant even see Manny outboxing Marquez so i think hes doomed no matter what.
 
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I actually think pac should make jmm the aggressor and NEVER take lead. make marquez come to him and place jmm in a uncomfortable role. pac actually is a good counter puncher when he wants to be. but he'll never ever do that cuz he says he wants to give exciting fights or whatever maybe its just in his dna to always attack. that's the best strategy against jmm.
 
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Marquez vs Manny 4 will look like all the other fights they had. Manny needs to up his workrate if he wants to KO Marquez. Marquez was looking real tired at the end of there last fight. The problem is Manny has stamina problems himself. Manny is not going to out box Marquez he going to jump in and out throwing punches, like he has done his whole career. Nothing more and nothing less.