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What other shit am I on? I thought Shane had one good fight left in him, but dude didn't even throw any punches. But still Manny looked confused with Shane's movement. Manny can't even cut off the ring to get his combos off. You watched the fight Manny looked like shit throwing wild punches hitting nothing but air. I'm just telling the truth so why you mad at me?
Did you guys see Manny step on the petal after he got "knocked down?" Am I the only one who thinks Bob Arum tells Manny to make the fights interesting and not completely fuck up a guy in a few rounds? Seems like Manny wasn't trying to knock shane out, maybe he had a lot of respect for him? Not until after he was "knocked down" did I see Manny get ferocious like he gets in competitive fights. Maybe he just needs to get hit some to turn it on?
How the fuck did he look confused if he won like 11 rounds out of 12? Does a "confused" fighter win that many rounds? Now lets just say the guys legs were on point, you still don't want to constantly come forward on a boxer like Shane. Thats a GREAT way to eat leather.
Not at first, no.
When he was hurt, yes.
Not at first, no.
When he was hurt, yes.
hell yeah, Kirkland back with Anne Wolfe. Mayorga on the horizon?!
James Kirkland vs Ricardo Mayorga? - 'Mandingo' Back in Austin with Wolfe
By Steve Kim, MaxBoxing (May 10, 2011) Doghouse Boxing
What was speculated for weeks has come to fruition. After his shocking first round KO at the hand of Nobu Ishida last month, James Kirkland is now back in Austin, Texas training once again with Ann Wolfe, who worked with Kirkland before his incarceration and his trial run with Kenny Adams in Las Vegas.
According to his attorney, Mike Miller, Kirkland began his reunion with Wolfe today and that a fight with Ricardo Mayorga is being discussed to take place underneath the bantam bout between Josepth Agbeko and Abner Mares on Showtime.
Say what you will, that’s a fun show. I hope it happens. Yeah, Kirkland-Mayorga may be a brawl between two raw sluggers, but then, what’s wrong with that?
James Kirkland vs Ricardo Mayorga? - 'Mandingo' Back in Austin with Wolfe
By Steve Kim, MaxBoxing (May 10, 2011) Doghouse Boxing
What was speculated for weeks has come to fruition. After his shocking first round KO at the hand of Nobu Ishida last month, James Kirkland is now back in Austin, Texas training once again with Ann Wolfe, who worked with Kirkland before his incarceration and his trial run with Kenny Adams in Las Vegas.
According to his attorney, Mike Miller, Kirkland began his reunion with Wolfe today and that a fight with Ricardo Mayorga is being discussed to take place underneath the bantam bout between Josepth Agbeko and Abner Mares on Showtime.
Say what you will, that’s a fun show. I hope it happens. Yeah, Kirkland-Mayorga may be a brawl between two raw sluggers, but then, what’s wrong with that?
Pac-Man Advisor Koncz Says: If They Fight A Third Fight, Pacquiao And Marquez
Pac-Man Advisor Koncz Says: If They Fight A Third Fight, Pacquiao And Marquez Will Box At 145-Pounds
By James Slater: As fans have no doubt read, the frontrunner to land the spot as the next challenger for superstar Manny Pacquiao is Mexico’s Juan Manuel Marquez. Both Bob Arum and Freddie Roach are reported to want this match-up to come next for Pac-Man and, unless Golden Boy can match the offer Top Rank have made to Marquez, this is the fight that will almost certainly happen (on November 5th or 12th).
The biggest question the fans have had when it comes to this prospective fight, is at what weight the fight - which will be the third clash between the two modern day legends - will go ahead at. In two sensational meetings, in 2004 and 2008, Pacquiao and Marquez fought at 126 and 130-pounds respectively. Since then, though, the incredible Filipino has marched through the lightweight, the light-welterweight, the welterweight, and even the light-middleweight divisions. As a result, the fans have asked aloud the question: can “Dinamita” compete with Pacquiao at 147, even 140-Pounds?
Well, according to Pac-Man advisor Michael Koncz, if and when the two warriors do meet again, it will be at 145-pounds and no lower.
According to a news piece on GMA News, Koncz said “It’s 145. We’ve had general discussions with Top Rank’s Bob Arum.”
Koncz informed the media that he and Manny “haven’t sat down and made a decision yet,” but that the 32-year-old global superstar will not fight under 145 as he himself understands it.
Arum has in mind a few alternative foes for Pac-Man just in case the Marquez fight falls through for whatever reason, but Marquez himself promised fans on Saturday (after the awful bore that was Pacquaio WU12 Mosley) how he would “give Pacquiao a real fight.” It seems the 37-year-old great is up for the trilogy.
But, in light of Koncz’ statement, will there be too many fans willing to give Marquez a chance in fight-three? Can Juan Manuel be effective at 145-pounds?
As fans will surely recall, Marquez weighed-in at a announced weight of 142 for his losing fight with Floyd Mayweather Junior in September of 2009, and the Mexican hero looked less than toned for that fight - after making the heavier weight with the assistance of a diet that consisted of quail eggs and piss (his own). How, then, can Marquez be expected to be able to fight to his usual standards at 145 - against Pacquiao at that?
Marquez, 52-5-1(38) has never been stopped in his illustrious pro career. I fear that if he faces Pacquiao at an agreed weight of 145-pounds, this will change. Why can’t Pac-Man, if he truly wants to prove who the better fighter is, make some effort at leveling the playing field by agreeing to take the fight at 138 or 139? I’m sure Manny could make such a weight without overly compromising his chances of winning. Can the same be said of Marquez if he agrees to fight at 145?
Pac-Man Advisor Koncz Says: If They Fight A Third Fight, Pacquiao And Marquez Will Box At 145-Pounds
By James Slater: As fans have no doubt read, the frontrunner to land the spot as the next challenger for superstar Manny Pacquiao is Mexico’s Juan Manuel Marquez. Both Bob Arum and Freddie Roach are reported to want this match-up to come next for Pac-Man and, unless Golden Boy can match the offer Top Rank have made to Marquez, this is the fight that will almost certainly happen (on November 5th or 12th).
The biggest question the fans have had when it comes to this prospective fight, is at what weight the fight - which will be the third clash between the two modern day legends - will go ahead at. In two sensational meetings, in 2004 and 2008, Pacquiao and Marquez fought at 126 and 130-pounds respectively. Since then, though, the incredible Filipino has marched through the lightweight, the light-welterweight, the welterweight, and even the light-middleweight divisions. As a result, the fans have asked aloud the question: can “Dinamita” compete with Pacquiao at 147, even 140-Pounds?
Well, according to Pac-Man advisor Michael Koncz, if and when the two warriors do meet again, it will be at 145-pounds and no lower.
According to a news piece on GMA News, Koncz said “It’s 145. We’ve had general discussions with Top Rank’s Bob Arum.”
Koncz informed the media that he and Manny “haven’t sat down and made a decision yet,” but that the 32-year-old global superstar will not fight under 145 as he himself understands it.
Arum has in mind a few alternative foes for Pac-Man just in case the Marquez fight falls through for whatever reason, but Marquez himself promised fans on Saturday (after the awful bore that was Pacquaio WU12 Mosley) how he would “give Pacquiao a real fight.” It seems the 37-year-old great is up for the trilogy.
But, in light of Koncz’ statement, will there be too many fans willing to give Marquez a chance in fight-three? Can Juan Manuel be effective at 145-pounds?
As fans will surely recall, Marquez weighed-in at a announced weight of 142 for his losing fight with Floyd Mayweather Junior in September of 2009, and the Mexican hero looked less than toned for that fight - after making the heavier weight with the assistance of a diet that consisted of quail eggs and piss (his own). How, then, can Marquez be expected to be able to fight to his usual standards at 145 - against Pacquiao at that?
Marquez, 52-5-1(38) has never been stopped in his illustrious pro career. I fear that if he faces Pacquiao at an agreed weight of 145-pounds, this will change. Why can’t Pac-Man, if he truly wants to prove who the better fighter is, make some effort at leveling the playing field by agreeing to take the fight at 138 or 139? I’m sure Manny could make such a weight without overly compromising his chances of winning. Can the same be said of Marquez if he agrees to fight at 145?
All roads lead to Floyd Mayweather
By Robert “Big Moe” Elmore: Manny Pacquiao’s career has been circumnavigated around several blockades and recently it has found its way to Top Rank Stable Avenue. No stopping at Gary Shaw’s Place, or Don King Avenue, or Main Events Road. Nope.
For several fights now, Pacquaio has avoided the main roads called “Fighters with footwork; Slick Boxer; Movement, Fast, Smart, Great Counter Puncher and has take the easier streets. Streets like Weight Drained, Come Straight Ahead, No Head or Lateral Movement. And my personal favorite, Cover Up All Night. When Mosley walked into Wild Card gym fresh off a win over Margarito, twice he given bus tickets and told to get lost.
In 2004, Pacquaio journeyed down Juan Manuel Marquez Parkway. The highway proved bumpy with Marquez solving the riddle of Manny’s straight left while countering Pac. The bout was a draw. Later in 2005, Pac rode on another dangerous highway; Erik Morales. Pac was completely out boxed and exposed even more. The immediate rematch offer by Morales was ignored opting to let Morales get his body jack hammered by Zahir Raheem and then Pac decided to fight him. Soon after the public filled the streets to see the Pac mobile cruise past a weight drained Oscar De La Hoya, a threatened to be stripped of his title if he didn’t fight at the 145 catch weight Miguel Cotto, Joshua “cover up” Clottey, and an unapologetic Antonio Margarito. But on May 7th, Manny’s uneventful trip down Shop Worn Avenue to see Shane Mosley has now forced him to go down one of the most dangerous highways in boxing; Floyd Mayweather Drive.
Like it or not, Floyd is most diversified fighter in the game. He has driven down many a highway and left them in ruins. For example, the road down Judah Junction had Floyd caught in a traffic jam for 3 or 4 rounds. But ignored the “reduced speed ahead” sign and stepped on the gas after the 4th round leaving Judah in the dust. Hatton’s style was supposed to shut Floyd down. Again, Mayweather made adjustments, wore his man down, and by the 7th round, Hatton’s punches had no snap on them. The Golden Boys yellow brick was supposed to trample Floyd and Oscar did everything in his power to get the upper hand. They got the smaller ring (that was supposed to limit Floyd’s footwork) It didn’t. Floyd was given 10 ounce heavyweight gloves (this was supposed to make his arms heavy and slow down his hand speed) It didn’t and compu box will tell this. Many thought the journey down Mosley’s Manor would be his most difficult challenge. Okay, so Shane scratched Mayweather’s ride a little bit. But by the end of the night, Shane’s pavement was wrecked and pot where every where.
FT: People look at Pac’s 52 wins and marvel and take no time at all to look at the opponents. Then look at Mayweather’s 41 wins and automatically discount him. I would take 41 wins knowing they were against different fighters with different styles, then 52 of the same type fighting style. Manny is not learning anything. Now the logical senses is going to be Mayweather waited till Pac lost a step or two then fight him. He could have taken some time off to heal his body, but chooses to fight. He hasn’t lost a step. HIS CHOICE of opponent wasn’t good, he was booed and now he’s simply trying to save face. If you noticed, the Pac has made an excuse was the Morales fight and his fight with Shane (if I missed one correct me). Now the tables have turned. People analysts are calling for Pac’s head a little bit more than Mayweathers. Pac can’t go down Bradley’s Broadway, or stop at Berto’s Place. It’s Mayweather Drive or bust for Pac.
By Robert “Big Moe” Elmore: Manny Pacquiao’s career has been circumnavigated around several blockades and recently it has found its way to Top Rank Stable Avenue. No stopping at Gary Shaw’s Place, or Don King Avenue, or Main Events Road. Nope.
For several fights now, Pacquaio has avoided the main roads called “Fighters with footwork; Slick Boxer; Movement, Fast, Smart, Great Counter Puncher and has take the easier streets. Streets like Weight Drained, Come Straight Ahead, No Head or Lateral Movement. And my personal favorite, Cover Up All Night. When Mosley walked into Wild Card gym fresh off a win over Margarito, twice he given bus tickets and told to get lost.
In 2004, Pacquaio journeyed down Juan Manuel Marquez Parkway. The highway proved bumpy with Marquez solving the riddle of Manny’s straight left while countering Pac. The bout was a draw. Later in 2005, Pac rode on another dangerous highway; Erik Morales. Pac was completely out boxed and exposed even more. The immediate rematch offer by Morales was ignored opting to let Morales get his body jack hammered by Zahir Raheem and then Pac decided to fight him. Soon after the public filled the streets to see the Pac mobile cruise past a weight drained Oscar De La Hoya, a threatened to be stripped of his title if he didn’t fight at the 145 catch weight Miguel Cotto, Joshua “cover up” Clottey, and an unapologetic Antonio Margarito. But on May 7th, Manny’s uneventful trip down Shop Worn Avenue to see Shane Mosley has now forced him to go down one of the most dangerous highways in boxing; Floyd Mayweather Drive.
Like it or not, Floyd is most diversified fighter in the game. He has driven down many a highway and left them in ruins. For example, the road down Judah Junction had Floyd caught in a traffic jam for 3 or 4 rounds. But ignored the “reduced speed ahead” sign and stepped on the gas after the 4th round leaving Judah in the dust. Hatton’s style was supposed to shut Floyd down. Again, Mayweather made adjustments, wore his man down, and by the 7th round, Hatton’s punches had no snap on them. The Golden Boys yellow brick was supposed to trample Floyd and Oscar did everything in his power to get the upper hand. They got the smaller ring (that was supposed to limit Floyd’s footwork) It didn’t. Floyd was given 10 ounce heavyweight gloves (this was supposed to make his arms heavy and slow down his hand speed) It didn’t and compu box will tell this. Many thought the journey down Mosley’s Manor would be his most difficult challenge. Okay, so Shane scratched Mayweather’s ride a little bit. But by the end of the night, Shane’s pavement was wrecked and pot where every where.
FT: People look at Pac’s 52 wins and marvel and take no time at all to look at the opponents. Then look at Mayweather’s 41 wins and automatically discount him. I would take 41 wins knowing they were against different fighters with different styles, then 52 of the same type fighting style. Manny is not learning anything. Now the logical senses is going to be Mayweather waited till Pac lost a step or two then fight him. He could have taken some time off to heal his body, but chooses to fight. He hasn’t lost a step. HIS CHOICE of opponent wasn’t good, he was booed and now he’s simply trying to save face. If you noticed, the Pac has made an excuse was the Morales fight and his fight with Shane (if I missed one correct me). Now the tables have turned. People analysts are calling for Pac’s head a little bit more than Mayweathers. Pac can’t go down Bradley’s Broadway, or stop at Berto’s Place. It’s Mayweather Drive or bust for Pac.
