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Hopkins vs Kovalev drew in big numbers on HBO
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sergey kovalev 2 bernard hopkins photoBy Wilmar Patino: On Saturday night despite a late start on the eastcoast (midnight) the light heavyweight unification bout between Bernard Hopkins and Sergey Kovalev drew in the 2nd highest numbers of views this year for HBO. A highly anticipated match of an established star in Hopkins and a fast rising star in Kovalev.
According to Nielsen Media Research the bout averaged a viewership of 1.328 million! With a peak of 1.397 million views. This makes it the 2nd most viewed fight in the United States for 2014. Only behind the Julio Cesar Chavez Jr vs Brian Vera rematch. Which average 1.390 views on HBO for the fight on March 1.
Hopkins vs Kovalev proved to be a success for both men confirming the public still has interest in watching Bernard Hopkins fight. It also proves that Sergey Kovalev is a fast rising star. With just a few fights left for the year and none as hyped as this one. We can securely conclude that this will be HBO’s 2nd biggest hit of the year. What will the year of 2015 bring? Hopefully fights the fans want to see as it is proved to be the most succesful formula to viewership and subscriptions to HBO. We shall see.
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sergey kovalev 2 bernard hopkins photoBy Wilmar Patino: On Saturday night despite a late start on the eastcoast (midnight) the light heavyweight unification bout between Bernard Hopkins and Sergey Kovalev drew in the 2nd highest numbers of views this year for HBO. A highly anticipated match of an established star in Hopkins and a fast rising star in Kovalev.
According to Nielsen Media Research the bout averaged a viewership of 1.328 million! With a peak of 1.397 million views. This makes it the 2nd most viewed fight in the United States for 2014. Only behind the Julio Cesar Chavez Jr vs Brian Vera rematch. Which average 1.390 views on HBO for the fight on March 1.
Hopkins vs Kovalev proved to be a success for both men confirming the public still has interest in watching Bernard Hopkins fight. It also proves that Sergey Kovalev is a fast rising star. With just a few fights left for the year and none as hyped as this one. We can securely conclude that this will be HBO’s 2nd biggest hit of the year. What will the year of 2015 bring? Hopefully fights the fans want to see as it is proved to be the most succesful formula to viewership and subscriptions to HBO. We shall see.
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Hopkins-Kovalev aftermath: A good plan gone wrong
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sergey kovalev 2 bernard hopkins photoBy Yannis Mihanos: Last Saturday night Sergey Kovalev krushed the hopes of Bernard Hopkins of becoming a unified world champion at the remarkable age of 49.
Prior to that fight, expectation of Hopkins winning the fight had grown substantially big. Could the old horse pull it off again ? Kovalev was also coming with a big hype as he had crushed all his earlier 23 opponents… even if for some were considered tomato cans. As for tomato cans, even Hopkins said in an interview it takes a certain skill to open the tomato can without cutting your hand…
The plan for Hopkins was simple and had been already used with success from Bernard many times in the past: basically it was to let the opponent beat himself by expending all his vital energy reserves, letting him become sloppy and then outgun and defeat him.
The plan was seemingly good and proved effective with other opponents like Kelly Pavlik. But as very intelligently said by boxing coach and HBO tv analyst Roy Jones jr: Kovalev is not Pavlik.
He was dead right. Kovalev was not to compare with any other opponent that Hopkins had faced before. So the plan this time proved faulty. Kovalev was too strong, too big and too patient. The last was the one that ruined the plan. Hopkins kept waiting for Kovalev to make a mistake but it never happened. Kovalev won almost every round convincingly. It was clear in the entire fight that there was a difference in size and power. It felt like Hopkins was the smaller guy. To his credit he (Hopkins) absorbed some of the crushing punches and stood tall like a real champion.
Hopkins also became the only one to last the full 12 rounds against Kovalev. And what can I say about Sergey: he is indeed an impeccable force in this category: too strong for anyone.
So what holds the future for these 2 special fighters?
Someone may wonder for what future am I talking about especially when talking about a 49 year guy…. still, I don’t think that the fight was won by the difference of age. I didn’t feel pity for Hopkins, he came at top physical condition but he clearly lost to a better man. It happens in boxing, it happens in any sports. There is no shame in losing from another great opponent.
Still I sense that Hopkins will continue as he wants surely to quit on his own terms and not because of one unfortunate result.
From what I saw last Saturday night Kovalev will have a problem to pick opponents in the future if he continues crushing them like this …
It was a good plan gone wrong.
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sergey kovalev 2 bernard hopkins photoBy Yannis Mihanos: Last Saturday night Sergey Kovalev krushed the hopes of Bernard Hopkins of becoming a unified world champion at the remarkable age of 49.
Prior to that fight, expectation of Hopkins winning the fight had grown substantially big. Could the old horse pull it off again ? Kovalev was also coming with a big hype as he had crushed all his earlier 23 opponents… even if for some were considered tomato cans. As for tomato cans, even Hopkins said in an interview it takes a certain skill to open the tomato can without cutting your hand…
The plan for Hopkins was simple and had been already used with success from Bernard many times in the past: basically it was to let the opponent beat himself by expending all his vital energy reserves, letting him become sloppy and then outgun and defeat him.
The plan was seemingly good and proved effective with other opponents like Kelly Pavlik. But as very intelligently said by boxing coach and HBO tv analyst Roy Jones jr: Kovalev is not Pavlik.
He was dead right. Kovalev was not to compare with any other opponent that Hopkins had faced before. So the plan this time proved faulty. Kovalev was too strong, too big and too patient. The last was the one that ruined the plan. Hopkins kept waiting for Kovalev to make a mistake but it never happened. Kovalev won almost every round convincingly. It was clear in the entire fight that there was a difference in size and power. It felt like Hopkins was the smaller guy. To his credit he (Hopkins) absorbed some of the crushing punches and stood tall like a real champion.
Hopkins also became the only one to last the full 12 rounds against Kovalev. And what can I say about Sergey: he is indeed an impeccable force in this category: too strong for anyone.
So what holds the future for these 2 special fighters?
Someone may wonder for what future am I talking about especially when talking about a 49 year guy…. still, I don’t think that the fight was won by the difference of age. I didn’t feel pity for Hopkins, he came at top physical condition but he clearly lost to a better man. It happens in boxing, it happens in any sports. There is no shame in losing from another great opponent.
Still I sense that Hopkins will continue as he wants surely to quit on his own terms and not because of one unfortunate result.
From what I saw last Saturday night Kovalev will have a problem to pick opponents in the future if he continues crushing them like this …
It was a good plan gone wrong.
The biggest fights that never happened
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By Gav Duthie: As the optimism increases yet again for a possible superfight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio there is no doubt the most talked about fight in history. If it doesn’t actually happen in May or September 2015 it will also be the biggest fight never to have happened in the sport. This article focuses on some of the other big fights that we have missed out on over the years and who might have won. sugar ray leonard roy jones jr mike tyson joe calzaghe photo
Ray Leonard 36-3-1 (25) v Aaron Pryor 39-1 (35)
Aaron Pryor was recently awarded recognition as the greatest light welterweight of the 20th century. The problem is all the big fights at this time Tommy Hearns, Wilfried Benitez, Roberto Duran, Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler were at 147lbs and above. He had beaten Hearns as an amateur and was dominating as a Jnr welterweight. After turning down consecutive offers of $500,000 to face Duran and Leonard, Pryor eventually agreed to step up to challenge Ray Leonard for his Welterweight title for $750,000. This fight WAS going to happen.
Why it didn’t happen
Although both parties had agreed to the fight Leonard needed to first face his mandatory challenger Roger Stafford. Pryor recalls that he was on his way to Sugar’s location to promote the fight when he heard on the radio that Leonard had suffered a detached retina in training hence the Stafford fight was cancelled as was his subsequent deal with Pryor. Pryor recalls he pulled over and cried. Leonard then retired 6 months later making a renegotiation impossible.
Who would have won
After the set back Pryor decided not to move up to 147. He reigned supreme at 140lb holding one title version or another from 1980-1985. His crowning glory was his two wins over 4 weight title chaser Alexis Arguello. Leonard seemed to improve as he moved through the divisions and I don’t think Pryor’s power would have affected him.
Leonard UD 15
Joe Calzaghe 46-0 (32) v Sven Ottke 34-0 (6)
As a spectacle I don’t think this would have been a great fight but it should have happened. Both Calzaghe and Ottke retired undefeated and made over 20 defences of their WBO and IBF Super middleweight titles repectively. Sven would never fight out of Germany which meant a fight with Calzaghe was always unlikely. Ottke only stopped 6 opponents from his 34 victories meaning he won 28 decisions.
Why it didn’t happen
A number of Ottke’s wins were considered highly controversial attributed to hometown decisions which is still considered prevalent in Germany today. Ottke fought close fights against fellow Brits David Starie and laterally Robin Reid but the Calzaghe team never made the trip over as the previous combatants were hard done by with judges and referees. By the time of the Robin Reid fight Ottke’s skills were on the slide. He was lucky to get the victory there and retired after his next fight. After the David Starie fight team Sauerland (Ottke Promoters) said that a Calzaghe fight was dead. They claimed they had been rebuffed every time they tried to negotiate. It was also said that Calzaghe was not a big enough name in Germany and they would prefer Bernard Hopkins which also never happened. Warren however made similar claims that Ottke avoided Joe and that their decision not to leave Germany made any deal unlikely.
Who would have won
Ottke was a very good technical fighter but I think he would have been outworked by Joe Calzaghe. Joe did struggle with good technicians like Kessler and Hopkins but his plan B was always to up the workrate on both occasions and take over in the latter stages. I think the same would happen here.
Calzaghe UD 12
Mike Tyson 50-6 (44) v George Foreman 76-5 (68)
Ok so this clearly wouldn’t have been Big George at his devastating best but there was definitely a big opportunity to put two of the biggest punchers of all time against each other. When Foreman returned in to the ring in 1987 from his 10 year hiatus Tyson was champion. At the time there was no big call for a fight because George’s return was seen as a bit of a joke. Foreman was determined however and was fighting every other week and amassed a 20-0 (19) record with wins over Bert Cooper, Dwight Qawi and Gerry Cooney. The majority of his foes were B/C class however and few fancied him to beat Tyson.
Why it didn’t happen
In 1991 George was tipped for a title shot but Evander Holyfield was first in line. Nobody had expected James Buster Douglas to spoil the party with a 10th round knockout over Iron Mike in Japan. For ‘Busters’ first defence he came in well overweight and was knocked out by Holyfield in 3 rounds. Again rather than going straight for a title shot v Holyfield the Tyson camp wanted a big name comeback fight and Foreman fit the bill. Rumours are varied but Mike seemed to be reluctant to fight Foreman. He felt he was better than people were suggesting and that it didn’t suite him to fight Big George. Instead he faced amateur bogeyman Henry Tillman (beat Tyson twice at amateurs) and knocked him out in 1 round. He then beat Alex Stewart before his rape conviction sent him to jail for 3 years before he could face Foreman and more importantly Holyfield. George and Evander fought in 1991 with The Real Deal winning on points and Foreman had another failed title shot against Tommy Morrison before finally regaining the world heavyweight crown beating Michael Moorer in 1994 over 20 years since losing it to Ali.
Who would have won
I agree with Tyson that this wouldn’t have been as easy as it looked but he would surely have won. Mike had gone the distance a couple of times prior to the Douglas loss against James ‘Bonecrusher’ Smith and Tony Tucker and his higher punch volume would have been a factor. Foreman had a fantastic chin and I think he would have possibly hurt Mike a couple of times on the way in but ultimately would have been edged out.
Tyson UD 12
Roy Jones Jnr v Darius Michalczewski 48-2 (38)
Why this fight didn’t happen I will never know. Roy and Darius were rated #1 and #2 for about 5 years at light heavyweight. In 1994 the German was the WBO light heavyweight and WBO Cruiserweight champion simultaneously. He dropped the cruiserweight title and stayed at light-heavyweight. He made no less than 23 successful defences before he eventually lost the belt after 11 years as champion. In 1997 he beat Virgil Hill on points to briefly become WBO, WBA and IBF light heavyweight champion. This was Hill’s first loss since Tommy Hearns. After that fight would have been the perfect time for him to fight Jones but Roy fought Virgil Hill instead winning a 4th round stoppage. There were several other times negotiations took place but it is unfortunate for Roy that this bout never materialised.
Why it didn’t happen
I’ve wrote before about the German comfort zone. This seemed to be the main problem for this fight. Michalczewski was apparently making around $1.5-2 million dollars per fight for facing mandatories in Germany. HBO made offers to him to come over to the U.S but they weren’t tempting enough. Before a fight with Roy HBO wanted to build his profile by having him on undercard fights with Jones Jnr as the headline, this is not an uncommon tactic. He would allegedly be offered around $3 million dollars per fight and then eventually $5 million to face Roy. Again his team probably felt they were better off facing more winnable opponents in Germany. As of course Jones Jnr also plain refused to fight in Germany at that time they fight was never realistically going to be made.
Who would have won
Michalczewski was good, very good he had a strong jab, could cut ff the ring well and was very powerful. At the time though Roy was untouchable and his footwork and hand speed would have been too much for him to handle.
Jones Jnr UD 12
For all our sakes we can only hope that Mayweather v Pacquaio is not going to be added to this list.
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By Gav Duthie: As the optimism increases yet again for a possible superfight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio there is no doubt the most talked about fight in history. If it doesn’t actually happen in May or September 2015 it will also be the biggest fight never to have happened in the sport. This article focuses on some of the other big fights that we have missed out on over the years and who might have won. sugar ray leonard roy jones jr mike tyson joe calzaghe photo
Ray Leonard 36-3-1 (25) v Aaron Pryor 39-1 (35)
Aaron Pryor was recently awarded recognition as the greatest light welterweight of the 20th century. The problem is all the big fights at this time Tommy Hearns, Wilfried Benitez, Roberto Duran, Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler were at 147lbs and above. He had beaten Hearns as an amateur and was dominating as a Jnr welterweight. After turning down consecutive offers of $500,000 to face Duran and Leonard, Pryor eventually agreed to step up to challenge Ray Leonard for his Welterweight title for $750,000. This fight WAS going to happen.
Why it didn’t happen
Although both parties had agreed to the fight Leonard needed to first face his mandatory challenger Roger Stafford. Pryor recalls that he was on his way to Sugar’s location to promote the fight when he heard on the radio that Leonard had suffered a detached retina in training hence the Stafford fight was cancelled as was his subsequent deal with Pryor. Pryor recalls he pulled over and cried. Leonard then retired 6 months later making a renegotiation impossible.
Who would have won
After the set back Pryor decided not to move up to 147. He reigned supreme at 140lb holding one title version or another from 1980-1985. His crowning glory was his two wins over 4 weight title chaser Alexis Arguello. Leonard seemed to improve as he moved through the divisions and I don’t think Pryor’s power would have affected him.
Leonard UD 15
Joe Calzaghe 46-0 (32) v Sven Ottke 34-0 (6)
As a spectacle I don’t think this would have been a great fight but it should have happened. Both Calzaghe and Ottke retired undefeated and made over 20 defences of their WBO and IBF Super middleweight titles repectively. Sven would never fight out of Germany which meant a fight with Calzaghe was always unlikely. Ottke only stopped 6 opponents from his 34 victories meaning he won 28 decisions.
Why it didn’t happen
A number of Ottke’s wins were considered highly controversial attributed to hometown decisions which is still considered prevalent in Germany today. Ottke fought close fights against fellow Brits David Starie and laterally Robin Reid but the Calzaghe team never made the trip over as the previous combatants were hard done by with judges and referees. By the time of the Robin Reid fight Ottke’s skills were on the slide. He was lucky to get the victory there and retired after his next fight. After the David Starie fight team Sauerland (Ottke Promoters) said that a Calzaghe fight was dead. They claimed they had been rebuffed every time they tried to negotiate. It was also said that Calzaghe was not a big enough name in Germany and they would prefer Bernard Hopkins which also never happened. Warren however made similar claims that Ottke avoided Joe and that their decision not to leave Germany made any deal unlikely.
Who would have won
Ottke was a very good technical fighter but I think he would have been outworked by Joe Calzaghe. Joe did struggle with good technicians like Kessler and Hopkins but his plan B was always to up the workrate on both occasions and take over in the latter stages. I think the same would happen here.
Calzaghe UD 12
Mike Tyson 50-6 (44) v George Foreman 76-5 (68)
Ok so this clearly wouldn’t have been Big George at his devastating best but there was definitely a big opportunity to put two of the biggest punchers of all time against each other. When Foreman returned in to the ring in 1987 from his 10 year hiatus Tyson was champion. At the time there was no big call for a fight because George’s return was seen as a bit of a joke. Foreman was determined however and was fighting every other week and amassed a 20-0 (19) record with wins over Bert Cooper, Dwight Qawi and Gerry Cooney. The majority of his foes were B/C class however and few fancied him to beat Tyson.
Why it didn’t happen
In 1991 George was tipped for a title shot but Evander Holyfield was first in line. Nobody had expected James Buster Douglas to spoil the party with a 10th round knockout over Iron Mike in Japan. For ‘Busters’ first defence he came in well overweight and was knocked out by Holyfield in 3 rounds. Again rather than going straight for a title shot v Holyfield the Tyson camp wanted a big name comeback fight and Foreman fit the bill. Rumours are varied but Mike seemed to be reluctant to fight Foreman. He felt he was better than people were suggesting and that it didn’t suite him to fight Big George. Instead he faced amateur bogeyman Henry Tillman (beat Tyson twice at amateurs) and knocked him out in 1 round. He then beat Alex Stewart before his rape conviction sent him to jail for 3 years before he could face Foreman and more importantly Holyfield. George and Evander fought in 1991 with The Real Deal winning on points and Foreman had another failed title shot against Tommy Morrison before finally regaining the world heavyweight crown beating Michael Moorer in 1994 over 20 years since losing it to Ali.
Who would have won
I agree with Tyson that this wouldn’t have been as easy as it looked but he would surely have won. Mike had gone the distance a couple of times prior to the Douglas loss against James ‘Bonecrusher’ Smith and Tony Tucker and his higher punch volume would have been a factor. Foreman had a fantastic chin and I think he would have possibly hurt Mike a couple of times on the way in but ultimately would have been edged out.
Tyson UD 12
Roy Jones Jnr v Darius Michalczewski 48-2 (38)
Why this fight didn’t happen I will never know. Roy and Darius were rated #1 and #2 for about 5 years at light heavyweight. In 1994 the German was the WBO light heavyweight and WBO Cruiserweight champion simultaneously. He dropped the cruiserweight title and stayed at light-heavyweight. He made no less than 23 successful defences before he eventually lost the belt after 11 years as champion. In 1997 he beat Virgil Hill on points to briefly become WBO, WBA and IBF light heavyweight champion. This was Hill’s first loss since Tommy Hearns. After that fight would have been the perfect time for him to fight Jones but Roy fought Virgil Hill instead winning a 4th round stoppage. There were several other times negotiations took place but it is unfortunate for Roy that this bout never materialised.
Why it didn’t happen
I’ve wrote before about the German comfort zone. This seemed to be the main problem for this fight. Michalczewski was apparently making around $1.5-2 million dollars per fight for facing mandatories in Germany. HBO made offers to him to come over to the U.S but they weren’t tempting enough. Before a fight with Roy HBO wanted to build his profile by having him on undercard fights with Jones Jnr as the headline, this is not an uncommon tactic. He would allegedly be offered around $3 million dollars per fight and then eventually $5 million to face Roy. Again his team probably felt they were better off facing more winnable opponents in Germany. As of course Jones Jnr also plain refused to fight in Germany at that time they fight was never realistically going to be made.
Who would have won
Michalczewski was good, very good he had a strong jab, could cut ff the ring well and was very powerful. At the time though Roy was untouchable and his footwork and hand speed would have been too much for him to handle.
Jones Jnr UD 12
For all our sakes we can only hope that Mayweather v Pacquaio is not going to be added to this list.
pfft
ESPN's latest P4P list
1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Marquez
4. Bradley
5. Rigondeaux
6. Golovkin
7. Gonzalez
8. Klitschko
9. Kovalev
10. Cotto
ESPN's latest P4P list
1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Marquez
4. Bradley
5. Rigondeaux
6. Golovkin
7. Gonzalez
8. Klitschko
9. Kovalev
10. Cotto
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they just want to put pac man 2 so it can cause more hysteria among the not so big boxing fans. they'll keep saying floyd dont want it with pac and vice versa jus cuz
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lol Stevenson keeps demanding these huge paydays he's going to end up without a dance partner yet again! So he missed out on Kovalev, then Hopkins and now possibly Pascal. Meanwhile Stevenson's next opponent is literally a guy with the word suck in his name haha.
Team Pascal: “Unlike Adonis Stevenson, Jean Pascal Ducks Nobody!”
In the aftermath of last Saturday’s Sergey Kovalev-Bernard Hopkins light heavyweight showdown in Atlantic City, former WBC world titlist Jean Pascal now sits firmly as the third most important fighter in the 175 lb. division.
As no. 1 contender to both Adonis Stevenson and Sergey Kovalev, via the WBC and WBO, respectively, the Haitian-Canadian star is also in the unique position of being able to choose which high-profile bout he’d like to pursue.
In terms of money, there’s little doubt that the bout with fellow Haitian-Canadian Stevenson in Quebec would be the bigger money-generator. However, talks between the two fighters have reportedly broken down completely due to Stevenson's powerful advisor Al Haymon.
Pascal advisor Greg Leon insists, however, that his fighter would have no problem switching focus to go after the heavy-handed Kovalev, who shut out Bernard Hopkins on Saturday to unify the WBO, IBF, and WBA titles. First, however, is a scheduled December 5 “stay busy” bout with Donovan George.
“Pascal is focused on fighting Donovan George on Dec. 6,” Leon told The Sweet Science. “Once he takes care of that business, his next fight will be for a world title. We have no problem or preference with either of the two champions. When the time comes, the deal that makes the most sense is the one we will execute. Unlike Adonis Stevenson, Jean Pascal has never ducked anyone!”
Team Pascal: “Unlike Adonis Stevenson, Jean Pascal Ducks Nobody!”
In the aftermath of last Saturday’s Sergey Kovalev-Bernard Hopkins light heavyweight showdown in Atlantic City, former WBC world titlist Jean Pascal now sits firmly as the third most important fighter in the 175 lb. division.
As no. 1 contender to both Adonis Stevenson and Sergey Kovalev, via the WBC and WBO, respectively, the Haitian-Canadian star is also in the unique position of being able to choose which high-profile bout he’d like to pursue.
In terms of money, there’s little doubt that the bout with fellow Haitian-Canadian Stevenson in Quebec would be the bigger money-generator. However, talks between the two fighters have reportedly broken down completely due to Stevenson's powerful advisor Al Haymon.
Pascal advisor Greg Leon insists, however, that his fighter would have no problem switching focus to go after the heavy-handed Kovalev, who shut out Bernard Hopkins on Saturday to unify the WBO, IBF, and WBA titles. First, however, is a scheduled December 5 “stay busy” bout with Donovan George.
“Pascal is focused on fighting Donovan George on Dec. 6,” Leon told The Sweet Science. “Once he takes care of that business, his next fight will be for a world title. We have no problem or preference with either of the two champions. When the time comes, the deal that makes the most sense is the one we will execute. Unlike Adonis Stevenson, Jean Pascal has never ducked anyone!”
This is actually a rreally good example of how Haymon can be BAD for his fighter.
-So Kovalev vs Stevenson is a fight everyone wants to see. Stevenson of course signs with Al Haymon, he brings him to Showtime saying look I'll get you MORE money fighting a bum then you would Kovalev. Which he does, he gets $2 million to fight a tune up. What people may not realize is this was an investment by Showtime thinking they pay him big bucks which will pay off later when he fights Hopkins.
-Bernard Hopkins is ready to fight Stevenson. Al Haymon however stalls. The reason he stalls is shady - Hopkins has a mandatory in a no name fighter named Muhammadi. Haymon figures Hopkins has no choice but to wait for Stevenson and be stripped his title so that one of Haymon’s lessor fighters can fight Muhammadi for the vacant title. But to everyone's surprise Hopkins does not allow to get dicked around and on the last minute possible makes a power move, keeps his title by going to HBO and fighting Kovalev in a unification (which overrides a mandatory) .
-Now Pascal has been interested in a Stevenson fight which makes a lot of sense being that Pascal is popular (more so than Stevenson). Again Al Haymon stalls. Why? Because negotiations are around 50/50 since Pascal is a bigger draw. However since Pascal is mandatory to fight Stevenson, if they don't reach an agreement the fight goes to a purse bid. When it goes to a purse bid it means the champ gets about 60-70% of the purse, so by delaying negotiations until a purse bid Al Haymon is trying to squeeze out some more money.
But now it looks like Pascal is saying fuck that, I'll fight Kovalev instead for a greater share of the purse! So Haymon has fucked Stevenson out of three big fights - Kovalev, Hopkins and Pascal! Great manager!
-So Kovalev vs Stevenson is a fight everyone wants to see. Stevenson of course signs with Al Haymon, he brings him to Showtime saying look I'll get you MORE money fighting a bum then you would Kovalev. Which he does, he gets $2 million to fight a tune up. What people may not realize is this was an investment by Showtime thinking they pay him big bucks which will pay off later when he fights Hopkins.
-Bernard Hopkins is ready to fight Stevenson. Al Haymon however stalls. The reason he stalls is shady - Hopkins has a mandatory in a no name fighter named Muhammadi. Haymon figures Hopkins has no choice but to wait for Stevenson and be stripped his title so that one of Haymon’s lessor fighters can fight Muhammadi for the vacant title. But to everyone's surprise Hopkins does not allow to get dicked around and on the last minute possible makes a power move, keeps his title by going to HBO and fighting Kovalev in a unification (which overrides a mandatory) .
-Now Pascal has been interested in a Stevenson fight which makes a lot of sense being that Pascal is popular (more so than Stevenson). Again Al Haymon stalls. Why? Because negotiations are around 50/50 since Pascal is a bigger draw. However since Pascal is mandatory to fight Stevenson, if they don't reach an agreement the fight goes to a purse bid. When it goes to a purse bid it means the champ gets about 60-70% of the purse, so by delaying negotiations until a purse bid Al Haymon is trying to squeeze out some more money.
But now it looks like Pascal is saying fuck that, I'll fight Kovalev instead for a greater share of the purse! So Haymon has fucked Stevenson out of three big fights - Kovalev, Hopkins and Pascal! Great manager!
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All lies.
First paragraph proven false by HBO telling Stevenson that he could seek other offers. This was BEFORE he signed with Haymon.
Remember in the Kovalev Hopkins thread I made one small post and said BHOP is a liar? It has everything to do with his bait and switch tactics. He helped lure him in only to hog the spotlight and call out Kovalev.
Stevenson is champ and should get more money. No brainer.
Recap.
Haymon never had much to do with Kovalev/Stevenson as Stevenson rejected the bullshit offer before Haymon was involved.
BHOP helped lure him only to bait and switch.
Pascal fight is still on the table.
First paragraph proven false by HBO telling Stevenson that he could seek other offers. This was BEFORE he signed with Haymon.
Remember in the Kovalev Hopkins thread I made one small post and said BHOP is a liar? It has everything to do with his bait and switch tactics. He helped lure him in only to hog the spotlight and call out Kovalev.
Stevenson is champ and should get more money. No brainer.
Recap.
Haymon never had much to do with Kovalev/Stevenson as Stevenson rejected the bullshit offer before Haymon was involved.
BHOP helped lure him only to bait and switch.
Pascal fight is still on the table.
Haha man everything I said was true, if you want to pretend Stevenson is just so unlucky missing out on three big fights that's on you bro. He has the "most powerful advisor" in boxing in his corner and he can't secure a big fight? Sure bro.
He may get Pascal now that he's talking to Kovalev since Haymon was stalling and it's been exposed as to why (more money) but that will take Haymon to sweeten the deal (give Pascal more money).
And the champ deserving more money is never how boxing has worked. The guy who is the draw usually always gets the Lions share if the pot, unless it goes to a purse bid (which is what Haymon is trying to do with Pascal and which is why it will backfire).
And Hopkins certainly didn't bait and switch. He WAS ABOUT TO GET STRIPPED OF HIS TITLE because Al Haymon was sstalling and no deal was on the table, that is documented. He tried to secure a Stevenson fight but they were in no hurry, Hopkins was within 24 hours of being stripped when he signed to fight Kovalev. That's documented. And that's on Haymon. The fight for Stevenson vs Hopkins was there but Haymon wanted that title for another one of his fighters who would have fought Muhammadi for the vacant title if Bhop was stripped (also documented). But keep drinking that Uncle Al juice
He may get Pascal now that he's talking to Kovalev since Haymon was stalling and it's been exposed as to why (more money) but that will take Haymon to sweeten the deal (give Pascal more money).
And the champ deserving more money is never how boxing has worked. The guy who is the draw usually always gets the Lions share if the pot, unless it goes to a purse bid (which is what Haymon is trying to do with Pascal and which is why it will backfire).
And Hopkins certainly didn't bait and switch. He WAS ABOUT TO GET STRIPPED OF HIS TITLE because Al Haymon was sstalling and no deal was on the table, that is documented. He tried to secure a Stevenson fight but they were in no hurry, Hopkins was within 24 hours of being stripped when he signed to fight Kovalev. That's documented. And that's on Haymon. The fight for Stevenson vs Hopkins was there but Haymon wanted that title for another one of his fighters who would have fought Muhammadi for the vacant title if Bhop was stripped (also documented). But keep drinking that Uncle Al juice
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He had nothing to do with Stevenson Kovalev. HBO made an offer and told him to look elsewhere if he wanted, he did and CAME BACK TO HBO TO MATCH THE OFFER, how is that Haymon's fault? Stevenson's camp released the emails outlining in detail what the offer with HBO was, don't play dumb now.
With BHOP, he never informed him he was on the verge of being stripped. His fault.
With Pascal, that fight can still be made.
But when I was saying this was all about money, MONTHS AGO, and when Stevenson was saying this is all about money, MONTHS AGO, you guy's were saying "He's ducking." Now you want to switch shit up and blame Haymon and money when, from the start, it has always been about money, LOL.
And a hundred fuckin belts has worked how? A fuckin hundred weight classes has worked how? Time for a change, bro.
You're the champ, you should get more money. Point blank. This "he's the draw shit" is exactly that--shit. Look how many fights have not been made because "this guy isn't a draw" or "that guy isn't a draw." Cut the shit.
See above.
Stevenson and crew (including Haymon) had no idea Bernard was on a timeline. He never disclosed the info, that is fact.
See above.
See above.
With BHOP, he never informed him he was on the verge of being stripped. His fault.
With Pascal, that fight can still be made.
But when I was saying this was all about money, MONTHS AGO, and when Stevenson was saying this is all about money, MONTHS AGO, you guy's were saying "He's ducking." Now you want to switch shit up and blame Haymon and money when, from the start, it has always been about money, LOL.
And a hundred fuckin belts has worked how? A fuckin hundred weight classes has worked how? Time for a change, bro.
You're the champ, you should get more money. Point blank. This "he's the draw shit" is exactly that--shit. Look how many fights have not been made because "this guy isn't a draw" or "that guy isn't a draw." Cut the shit.
See above.
Stevenson and crew (including Haymon) had no idea Bernard was on a timeline. He never disclosed the info, that is fact.
See above.
See above.
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straight bomedy making HERESY use illogical logic to defend Stevenson.
It WAS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE Hopkins was about to be stripped you honestly think Al Haymon didn't know that when the sanctioning body for weeks and weeks kept sayin, publicly, if Hopkins doesn't sign a unification fight by a certain date he would be ordered to fight Muhammadi or be stripped? Everyone in boxing knew this. But all powerful Haymon didn't!? "LMAO stop trollin nigga!" You lose time and time again when it comes to your blind spot Stevenson. He's literally fighting a guy with suck in his name next when he missed out on Bhop, Kovalev and most likely now Pascal. Fighter of the Year fighting tba's lol
It WAS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE Hopkins was about to be stripped you honestly think Al Haymon didn't know that when the sanctioning body for weeks and weeks kept sayin, publicly, if Hopkins doesn't sign a unification fight by a certain date he would be ordered to fight Muhammadi or be stripped? Everyone in boxing knew this. But all powerful Haymon didn't!? "LMAO stop trollin nigga!" You lose time and time again when it comes to your blind spot Stevenson. He's literally fighting a guy with suck in his name next when he missed out on Bhop, Kovalev and most likely now Pascal. Fighter of the Year fighting tba's lol
Never.
According to Stevenson and his camp they didn't know. Hopkins never said anything.
Man I'm giving ya'll the real. Lol@"tba's." HBO should have done the right thing. BHOP was a liar and Pascal can still be made. The year is almost over with and 2015 is when shit goes down, just like Stevensons camp said. Now look at it this way, and disregard the fact I always said Stevenson beats Kovalev, Kovalev beats Hopkins and Hopkins beats Stevenson, it is better that BHOP took the L because now you have EVERYONE talking about a Stevenson Kovalev fight and that fight could be on PPV. So, in reality, it is a win win for everyone as long as Stevenson doesn't take an L. Pascal is in a GREAT place as he is mando for both guys, so it's all good.
According to Stevenson and his camp they didn't know. Hopkins never said anything.
Man I'm giving ya'll the real. Lol@"tba's." HBO should have done the right thing. BHOP was a liar and Pascal can still be made. The year is almost over with and 2015 is when shit goes down, just like Stevensons camp said. Now look at it this way, and disregard the fact I always said Stevenson beats Kovalev, Kovalev beats Hopkins and Hopkins beats Stevenson, it is better that BHOP took the L because now you have EVERYONE talking about a Stevenson Kovalev fight and that fight could be on PPV. So, in reality, it is a win win for everyone as long as Stevenson doesn't take an L. Pascal is in a GREAT place as he is mando for both guys, so it's all good.
Then that's PROOF they are liars as it was public knowledge. I knew this but they didn't? Sure.
Hopkins signed to fight Kovalev on 8/2/14
Hopkins was orderd to fight his mandatory (which turned out to be Nadjib Mohammedi) April 21st. That's over 3 months it was publically known, breh.
Check the date. This was published April 29th. You can literally find dozens upon dozens of articles that talk about it.
Boxing News | IBF orders Bernard Hopkins to face winner of Dudchenko-Mohammedi
April 30th:
IBF states: Bernard Hopkins can unify with Adonis Stevenson over his mandatory
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/...nify-with-adonis-stevenson-over-his-mandatory
Hopkins signed to fight Kovalev on 8/2/14
Hopkins was orderd to fight his mandatory (which turned out to be Nadjib Mohammedi) April 21st. That's over 3 months it was publically known, breh.
Check the date. This was published April 29th. You can literally find dozens upon dozens of articles that talk about it.
Boxing News | IBF orders Bernard Hopkins to face winner of Dudchenko-Mohammedi
April 30th:
IBF states: Bernard Hopkins can unify with Adonis Stevenson over his mandatory
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/...nify-with-adonis-stevenson-over-his-mandatory
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None of that supports your claim. Not one person knew he was on a deadline or when the time expired except for one person, BHOP. Let's take a look at the second link you posted. Here is an excerpt:
Stevenson WON his fight, why did BHOP not take the Stevenson fight when, according to the link you provided, he could have taken the Stevenson fight as a unification takes precedence?
Stevenson WON his fight, why did BHOP not take the Stevenson fight when, according to the link you provided, he could have taken the Stevenson fight as a unification takes precedence?
LOL why do you think man??? Hopkins had a deadline to make a deal with a unification or fight his mandatory. the deal was on the table for Stevenson but they stalled. Hopkins signed to fight Kovalev on the last possible minute as a result or he would have been stripped and Haymon's fighter would have fought for the vacant title. That's on Stevenson (Haymon). Terrible management not getting that deal done. Instead Haymon tried to be greedy once again and it cost his fighter once again.
BTW, EVERYONE knew there was a deadline, I knew there was a deadline. The IBF is the most strict organization when it comes to enforcing mandatories. All you have to do is research, it's all public information. lol @ they didn't know haha
BTW, EVERYONE knew there was a deadline, I knew there was a deadline. The IBF is the most strict organization when it comes to enforcing mandatories. All you have to do is research, it's all public information. lol @ they didn't know haha
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They didn't stall. Here is BHOP lying and contradicting himself right here
Hopkins Explains Checkmate on Stevenson, Kovalev Deal - Boxing News
LOL@"fighting on Nikelodeon"
Hopkins Explains Checkmate on Stevenson, Kovalev Deal - Boxing News
LOL@"fighting on Nikelodeon"
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