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Pacquiao could win millions in lawsuit against Mayweather, De La Hoya and Schaefer
By Jason Kim: As reported by The Grand Rapids Press, World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao could stand to win tens of millions of dollars if his lawsuit for defamation against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer is successful. Pacquiao has hired famous American lawyer Daniel Petrocelli to represent him in this case. Petrocelli said in an interview at Grand Rapids Press, “They’ve already done untold damage, in the tens of millions of dollars, and we’re going to see this doesn’t happen again, and we’re going to recover for all the damage that they’ve already inflicted.”
If Pacquiao does win this case, he may not need to fight Mayweather after all to get a huge payday, because this case could potentially bring Pacquiao millions of dollars in damages. If Pacquiao fights Mayweather, he stands to make between $25 million to $40 million. That fight is looking more and less likely to happen because the two sides have been unable to agree to the drug testing methods.
By Jason Kim: As reported by The Grand Rapids Press, World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao could stand to win tens of millions of dollars if his lawsuit for defamation against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer is successful. Pacquiao has hired famous American lawyer Daniel Petrocelli to represent him in this case. Petrocelli said in an interview at Grand Rapids Press, “They’ve already done untold damage, in the tens of millions of dollars, and we’re going to see this doesn’t happen again, and we’re going to recover for all the damage that they’ve already inflicted.”
If Pacquiao does win this case, he may not need to fight Mayweather after all to get a huge payday, because this case could potentially bring Pacquiao millions of dollars in damages. If Pacquiao fights Mayweather, he stands to make between $25 million to $40 million. That fight is looking more and less likely to happen because the two sides have been unable to agree to the drug testing methods.
Will Pacquiao’s lawsuit against Mayweather make it impossible for the fight to be mad
By Jason Kim: I don’t begrudge Manny Pacquiao for wanting to file a lawsuit for defamation against Floyd Mayweather Jr., his father Floyd Sr., Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, as reported today, but I think this may make it much harder to make the mega fight possible between Pacquiao and Mayweather now. It’s not impossible for the fight to still be made, but this likely won’t help matters. Besides that, Pacquiao is taking a lot of heat from boxing fans in internet boxing forums and in the comment sections of blogs.
Some people in the internet forums see Pacquiao’s lawsuit in an unfavorable light, likening it to a child that runs to their mother when they’re teased. I can’t blame Pacquiao for wanting to file the lawsuit, but I’m not precisely sure that it will accomplish much in the very end, other than possibly getting a judgment in his favor and a monetary award for Pacquiao.
The one that thing that could have quieted the negative perceptions of some people would have been for Pacquiao to agree in part to the random blood tests for drugs within the 30 day window. Pacquiao agreed to three blood tests, but didn’t want them to take place within 30 days of the fight. However, if Pacquiao did that it would mean that he was caving into the desires of Mayweather. It’s a complicated matter. If Pacquiao doesn’t take the tests, some people will think negatively of him. And if he does take them as Mayweather wants, then Manny might feel like he’s being pushed around and being led by the nose.
With the lawsuit bearing down on Mayweather, one has to wonder whether this will affect his desire to make a fight happen with Pacquiao. On the one hand Mayweather would make a lot of money in a fight with Manny, but he may not be as eager to fight him now that there’s a lawsuit out there.
In an interview of Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach by writer David Tyler at Doghouse Boxing today, Roach said “Well, it’s not really Manny but me [why Pacquiao is refusing to take a blood test], the Nevada Commission has been around a long time and is the best commission in the world. They have been involved in every fight that I have had in my life. I don’t work for Mayweather, he doesn’t tell me what to do, he doesn’t tell my fighter what to do, we go by the commission rules and by the sanction body rules and that’s fine.” Roach is saying that he’s the one that is behind Pacquiao not taking the random blood tests. That’s interesting to know.
Roach also has this to say about the blood tests: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva or urine. Now saliva and urine are more complete test than blood for HGH and steroids.”
In the same interview, Roach said that they’re considering a fight against World Boxing Association light middleweight champion Yuri Foreman. As for Paulie Malignaggi, who has been mentioned as a possible next opponent for Pacquiao by Arum, Roach says “No, we [Pacquiao] would kill him [Malignaggi], and I don’t want to hurt Paulie.”
By Jason Kim: I don’t begrudge Manny Pacquiao for wanting to file a lawsuit for defamation against Floyd Mayweather Jr., his father Floyd Sr., Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, as reported today, but I think this may make it much harder to make the mega fight possible between Pacquiao and Mayweather now. It’s not impossible for the fight to still be made, but this likely won’t help matters. Besides that, Pacquiao is taking a lot of heat from boxing fans in internet boxing forums and in the comment sections of blogs.
Some people in the internet forums see Pacquiao’s lawsuit in an unfavorable light, likening it to a child that runs to their mother when they’re teased. I can’t blame Pacquiao for wanting to file the lawsuit, but I’m not precisely sure that it will accomplish much in the very end, other than possibly getting a judgment in his favor and a monetary award for Pacquiao.
The one that thing that could have quieted the negative perceptions of some people would have been for Pacquiao to agree in part to the random blood tests for drugs within the 30 day window. Pacquiao agreed to three blood tests, but didn’t want them to take place within 30 days of the fight. However, if Pacquiao did that it would mean that he was caving into the desires of Mayweather. It’s a complicated matter. If Pacquiao doesn’t take the tests, some people will think negatively of him. And if he does take them as Mayweather wants, then Manny might feel like he’s being pushed around and being led by the nose.
With the lawsuit bearing down on Mayweather, one has to wonder whether this will affect his desire to make a fight happen with Pacquiao. On the one hand Mayweather would make a lot of money in a fight with Manny, but he may not be as eager to fight him now that there’s a lawsuit out there.
In an interview of Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach by writer David Tyler at Doghouse Boxing today, Roach said “Well, it’s not really Manny but me [why Pacquiao is refusing to take a blood test], the Nevada Commission has been around a long time and is the best commission in the world. They have been involved in every fight that I have had in my life. I don’t work for Mayweather, he doesn’t tell me what to do, he doesn’t tell my fighter what to do, we go by the commission rules and by the sanction body rules and that’s fine.” Roach is saying that he’s the one that is behind Pacquiao not taking the random blood tests. That’s interesting to know.
Roach also has this to say about the blood tests: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva or urine. Now saliva and urine are more complete test than blood for HGH and steroids.”
In the same interview, Roach said that they’re considering a fight against World Boxing Association light middleweight champion Yuri Foreman. As for Paulie Malignaggi, who has been mentioned as a possible next opponent for Pacquiao by Arum, Roach says “No, we [Pacquiao] would kill him [Malignaggi], and I don’t want to hurt Paulie.”
Mayweather has got under Manny’s skin
By Michael Taylor: Floyd Mayweather Jr. is known so well by boxing fans for his torments and the way he gets under opponents skin, but usually does it when they stand face to face, and when the fight is arranged. But this time Mayweather has already enraged Manny Pacquiao, and Manny wasn’t short of words in a recent interview back in the Philippines. Manny has now agreed to do urine tests before the fight but still the fight is still in danger.
Manny said, “I can’t believe these guys can lie without batting an eyelash and they would even make it appear that I am the culprit for the delay of the fight and saying I don’t want it to happen. Liars go to hell. They should be man enough and own up to their words”.
So finally Pacquiao has come back, and lets hope he does the punishment in the ring, because no boxing fans are going to be at the court now are they Manny.
Manny wasn’t quite finished and had to add some remarks about Mayweather, “They claimed I threatened to walk away from the largest fight in history. That’s the first lie! Last week, I told Floyd Jr, to shut his big, pretty mouth and that we should fight so that the world will get to see who is the best fighter in the planet.
By Michael Taylor: Floyd Mayweather Jr. is known so well by boxing fans for his torments and the way he gets under opponents skin, but usually does it when they stand face to face, and when the fight is arranged. But this time Mayweather has already enraged Manny Pacquiao, and Manny wasn’t short of words in a recent interview back in the Philippines. Manny has now agreed to do urine tests before the fight but still the fight is still in danger.
Manny said, “I can’t believe these guys can lie without batting an eyelash and they would even make it appear that I am the culprit for the delay of the fight and saying I don’t want it to happen. Liars go to hell. They should be man enough and own up to their words”.
So finally Pacquiao has come back, and lets hope he does the punishment in the ring, because no boxing fans are going to be at the court now are they Manny.
Manny wasn’t quite finished and had to add some remarks about Mayweather, “They claimed I threatened to walk away from the largest fight in history. That’s the first lie! Last week, I told Floyd Jr, to shut his big, pretty mouth and that we should fight so that the world will get to see who is the best fighter in the planet.
Unhappy with Floyd Mayweather Jr.
By Eamon Mcdonald: Honestly, Floyd Mayweather Jr. upsets me so much and I’m only an armchair fan. I live in Ireland so it’s extremely difficult to get a ticket for a big fight. Mayweather is a great boxer, he knows the sport well and has been blessed with great ability. It’s a shame, though, that his style often makes for awful fights that fail to excite whilst Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Shane Mosley, to name a few, don’t get paid as much as him (well, Manny Pacquiao does now). In my views, their fights are much more exciting because they are willing to spill blood to win a fight.
Mayweather stunned Marquez in their bout and didn’t even try to finish him off. Seriously like, if Mayweather had gone for broke and Marquez countered him, I doubt very much that it would’ve hurt Floyd all that much due to Marquez not being strong enough at that weight. I’m especially not happy with Mayweather over the random blood test that he’s trying to implement for his mega fight with Pacquiao.
If and when this fight does happen, I hope Pacquiao wins so that people will finally stop watching Floyd’s fights. Many boxing fans watch Mayweather because they want him to lose. The sad thing is after the Pacquiao fight is over, and if Mayweather wins, Floyd probably won’t go after the dangerous fighters like Paul Williams and Mosley, and will probably stick to fighting smaller opponents.
If World Boxing Council welterweight champion Andre Berto manages to beat Mosley in their fight next month in January, I look forward to hearing Mayweather’s excuse if he decides to not fight the winner.
By Eamon Mcdonald: Honestly, Floyd Mayweather Jr. upsets me so much and I’m only an armchair fan. I live in Ireland so it’s extremely difficult to get a ticket for a big fight. Mayweather is a great boxer, he knows the sport well and has been blessed with great ability. It’s a shame, though, that his style often makes for awful fights that fail to excite whilst Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Shane Mosley, to name a few, don’t get paid as much as him (well, Manny Pacquiao does now). In my views, their fights are much more exciting because they are willing to spill blood to win a fight.
Mayweather stunned Marquez in their bout and didn’t even try to finish him off. Seriously like, if Mayweather had gone for broke and Marquez countered him, I doubt very much that it would’ve hurt Floyd all that much due to Marquez not being strong enough at that weight. I’m especially not happy with Mayweather over the random blood test that he’s trying to implement for his mega fight with Pacquiao.
If and when this fight does happen, I hope Pacquiao wins so that people will finally stop watching Floyd’s fights. Many boxing fans watch Mayweather because they want him to lose. The sad thing is after the Pacquiao fight is over, and if Mayweather wins, Floyd probably won’t go after the dangerous fighters like Paul Williams and Mosley, and will probably stick to fighting smaller opponents.
If World Boxing Council welterweight champion Andre Berto manages to beat Mosley in their fight next month in January, I look forward to hearing Mayweather’s excuse if he decides to not fight the winner.
Pacquiao vs. Mayweather: Winners and losers
By Gibney Desmond: Whether you’re a Mayweather or a Pacquiao fan, you’ve got to be disappointed by the whole sordid affair of the botched negotiations, the foolish allegations, and the unending frustration that you probably will never be able to enjoy the undoubtedly brilliant show that could and should have been.
It has been suggested that this fight would have sold in the region of 3 million PPVs. At 60 dollars a shot that`s about 180 million. Add to this the various other money spinners inevitable with a huge event like this, and the figure rises to well over the 200 million mark. So a group of people are missing out on a mega payday, but their loss has got to be somebody else’s gain, right? Well let’s have a look:
Floyd Mayweather Jr.: Like it or not, Floyd has already lost his pound per pound crown. Now it seems he has also lost his only means of getting it back. If Floyd can`t get a crack at Manny, Manny will be remembered as the greater boxer, whether or not that is true. Worse, we`ll probably never know who actually was the better boxer.
Floyd, as we know, loves a big payday. Well, he has just seen the biggest one of his life walk right out through the door. No other match today could possibly generate as much interest or income as the Pacquiao Mayweather fight. And he has got to very carefully choose who he fights next, if he does not want to add to his reputation of being a cherry picker. He had to chance to prove he is the best, now that moment is gone. Now, more that ever there will always be doubts about Floyd`s greatness; whoever he fights next, win or lose. Add to that the fact he may end up facing an expensive day in court, things could hardly be worse for Floyd.
Manny Pacquiao: No doubt about it Manny was on a big-time, Vegas style roll. He was going from strength to strength. Fight by fight, his performances were ever more exciting, the crowds were bigger, louder and more fanatical, the purses richer and richer. The natural crescendo to all of this could only ever have been Pacquiao vs. Mayweather. This would have undoubtedly been a defining moment in boxing history; two of the greatest living fighters today in a bout that would surely be remembered by all, whatever the outcome. The highest possible point of Pacquiao’s career. Even leaving out the fact that his reputation has been indelibly tarnished, what have we got to look forward to now? Pacquiao vs. Foreman? That bout, as most right-minded people will tell you, is at best a one-sided affair. It is of precious little interest to anyone, and can do nothing whatsoever for Pacquiao. It will not make huge money or attract a wild crowd. If, as has been speculated, this is Pacquiao’s last fight, instead of hanging up his gloves with a glorious, spectacular crescendo, his last fight will be like a wet firecracker.
Boxing fans: In this affair I would say we are the biggest losers of all. When the fight was first announced how many of you said `Yes. Yes Yes. This is it. At last a fight that will equal Ali vs. Foreman. I will be able to tell my grandchildren about this one? `Everything was going smoothly. `Yes. `A stumbling point; `Damn!` A possible compromise, a glimmer of hope; `Yes` From there on it has just been frustration after frustration, and most of us are probably feeling a dose of well merited anger. `What are these people doing? Please just give us what we want. ` he gears of the machine grind down to a painful, pitiful halt. It is a sad day for boxing and for boxing fans.
All in all it seems that nearly everyone has lost out by what has happened, and can only blame themselves.
As Shakespeare may well have said; `Something is rotten in the state of boxing`.
By Gibney Desmond: Whether you’re a Mayweather or a Pacquiao fan, you’ve got to be disappointed by the whole sordid affair of the botched negotiations, the foolish allegations, and the unending frustration that you probably will never be able to enjoy the undoubtedly brilliant show that could and should have been.
It has been suggested that this fight would have sold in the region of 3 million PPVs. At 60 dollars a shot that`s about 180 million. Add to this the various other money spinners inevitable with a huge event like this, and the figure rises to well over the 200 million mark. So a group of people are missing out on a mega payday, but their loss has got to be somebody else’s gain, right? Well let’s have a look:
Floyd Mayweather Jr.: Like it or not, Floyd has already lost his pound per pound crown. Now it seems he has also lost his only means of getting it back. If Floyd can`t get a crack at Manny, Manny will be remembered as the greater boxer, whether or not that is true. Worse, we`ll probably never know who actually was the better boxer.
Floyd, as we know, loves a big payday. Well, he has just seen the biggest one of his life walk right out through the door. No other match today could possibly generate as much interest or income as the Pacquiao Mayweather fight. And he has got to very carefully choose who he fights next, if he does not want to add to his reputation of being a cherry picker. He had to chance to prove he is the best, now that moment is gone. Now, more that ever there will always be doubts about Floyd`s greatness; whoever he fights next, win or lose. Add to that the fact he may end up facing an expensive day in court, things could hardly be worse for Floyd.
Manny Pacquiao: No doubt about it Manny was on a big-time, Vegas style roll. He was going from strength to strength. Fight by fight, his performances were ever more exciting, the crowds were bigger, louder and more fanatical, the purses richer and richer. The natural crescendo to all of this could only ever have been Pacquiao vs. Mayweather. This would have undoubtedly been a defining moment in boxing history; two of the greatest living fighters today in a bout that would surely be remembered by all, whatever the outcome. The highest possible point of Pacquiao’s career. Even leaving out the fact that his reputation has been indelibly tarnished, what have we got to look forward to now? Pacquiao vs. Foreman? That bout, as most right-minded people will tell you, is at best a one-sided affair. It is of precious little interest to anyone, and can do nothing whatsoever for Pacquiao. It will not make huge money or attract a wild crowd. If, as has been speculated, this is Pacquiao’s last fight, instead of hanging up his gloves with a glorious, spectacular crescendo, his last fight will be like a wet firecracker.
Boxing fans: In this affair I would say we are the biggest losers of all. When the fight was first announced how many of you said `Yes. Yes Yes. This is it. At last a fight that will equal Ali vs. Foreman. I will be able to tell my grandchildren about this one? `Everything was going smoothly. `Yes. `A stumbling point; `Damn!` A possible compromise, a glimmer of hope; `Yes` From there on it has just been frustration after frustration, and most of us are probably feeling a dose of well merited anger. `What are these people doing? Please just give us what we want. ` he gears of the machine grind down to a painful, pitiful halt. It is a sad day for boxing and for boxing fans.
All in all it seems that nearly everyone has lost out by what has happened, and can only blame themselves.
As Shakespeare may well have said; `Something is rotten in the state of boxing`.
acquiao vs. Yuri Foreman: Does anyone see this as an interesting bout?
y Sean McDaniel: Yesterday, Manny Pacquiao filed a defamation suit in Nevada against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Sr., Roger Mayweather, Oscar De La Hoy and Richard Schaefer, the CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, because they allegedly made defamatory statements about Pacquiao using performance enhancing drugs (PED). This is some terrible news for boxing fans who were hoping to see the mega fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao. It doesn’t like it’s ever going to happen now, not with all this going on.
It was bad enough with Mayweather and Pacquiao not being able to agree about the random blood testing for drugs, but when you add the lawsuit to the mix, it looks like a killer. This might be a good time for Mayweather and Company to back down on the random blood testing, and agree to go with just the urine testing and the three blood tests that Pacquiao already agreed on. I don’t see Pacquiao giving in and agreeing to the tests, so Mayweather needs to see the big picture and forget about the extra testing. At this point, it looks as if Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum, will be trying to set up a fight against the light hitting World boxing Association light middleweight champion Yuri Foreman (28-0, 6 KO’s) as a replacement bout for Pacquiao.
The reason this fight is considering an option for Pacquiao is because he wants to go after an 8th world title belt, and if he can beat Foreman, Pacquiao would be able to pick up another title to add to his seven other belts. Foreman doesn’t have the power of some of the other fighters in the light middleweight division, and will likely be far too slow to compete against Pacquiao.
This fight will be a huge let down for boxing fans, who were really looking forward to Pacquiao fighting Mayweather on March 13th. Foreman is a good fighter, but he’s not well known to casual boxing fans and has a fighting style that isn’t eye pleasing to boxing fans. Indeed, Foreman likes to move a lot, use an in and out style of fighting and clinches a great deal. His last two fights have ended due to head butts. I don’t know that Arum has looked at enough of Foreman’s fights, but he might want to because he will make it very tough on Pacquiao because of his clinching and movement.
I don’t think for a second that Pacquiao will be able to knock Foreman out, because of his movement. Pacquiao might end up chasing him all night long and having to deal with his annoying clinches. I see this as a fight where Pacquiao will win, but it might not be interesting because of Foreman’s spoiling tactics. I also think there’s a good chance that Pacquiao be cut once or twice in the fight from head butts.
Foreman has a way of lowering his head when he comes at his opponents for a clinch or to throw a punch and head butts often occur. In the Santos fight, there were multiple head butts in many of the rounds. With both Pacquiao and Foreman coming forward a lot of the time, this fight might end up being a bloody mess before long.
I think a better choice for Pacquiao would be for him to go after WBC light middleweight champion Sergio Martinez. He’s slightly better known than Foreman, and has a style that I think Pacquiao would do well against. He’d have to chase Martinez down, there’s no question, but Martinez is vulnerable to heavy pressure fighters like Pacquiao. Martinez was stopped earlier in his career by Antonio Margarito.
y Sean McDaniel: Yesterday, Manny Pacquiao filed a defamation suit in Nevada against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Sr., Roger Mayweather, Oscar De La Hoy and Richard Schaefer, the CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, because they allegedly made defamatory statements about Pacquiao using performance enhancing drugs (PED). This is some terrible news for boxing fans who were hoping to see the mega fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao. It doesn’t like it’s ever going to happen now, not with all this going on.
It was bad enough with Mayweather and Pacquiao not being able to agree about the random blood testing for drugs, but when you add the lawsuit to the mix, it looks like a killer. This might be a good time for Mayweather and Company to back down on the random blood testing, and agree to go with just the urine testing and the three blood tests that Pacquiao already agreed on. I don’t see Pacquiao giving in and agreeing to the tests, so Mayweather needs to see the big picture and forget about the extra testing. At this point, it looks as if Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum, will be trying to set up a fight against the light hitting World boxing Association light middleweight champion Yuri Foreman (28-0, 6 KO’s) as a replacement bout for Pacquiao.
The reason this fight is considering an option for Pacquiao is because he wants to go after an 8th world title belt, and if he can beat Foreman, Pacquiao would be able to pick up another title to add to his seven other belts. Foreman doesn’t have the power of some of the other fighters in the light middleweight division, and will likely be far too slow to compete against Pacquiao.
This fight will be a huge let down for boxing fans, who were really looking forward to Pacquiao fighting Mayweather on March 13th. Foreman is a good fighter, but he’s not well known to casual boxing fans and has a fighting style that isn’t eye pleasing to boxing fans. Indeed, Foreman likes to move a lot, use an in and out style of fighting and clinches a great deal. His last two fights have ended due to head butts. I don’t know that Arum has looked at enough of Foreman’s fights, but he might want to because he will make it very tough on Pacquiao because of his clinching and movement.
I don’t think for a second that Pacquiao will be able to knock Foreman out, because of his movement. Pacquiao might end up chasing him all night long and having to deal with his annoying clinches. I see this as a fight where Pacquiao will win, but it might not be interesting because of Foreman’s spoiling tactics. I also think there’s a good chance that Pacquiao be cut once or twice in the fight from head butts.
Foreman has a way of lowering his head when he comes at his opponents for a clinch or to throw a punch and head butts often occur. In the Santos fight, there were multiple head butts in many of the rounds. With both Pacquiao and Foreman coming forward a lot of the time, this fight might end up being a bloody mess before long.
I think a better choice for Pacquiao would be for him to go after WBC light middleweight champion Sergio Martinez. He’s slightly better known than Foreman, and has a style that I think Pacquiao would do well against. He’d have to chase Martinez down, there’s no question, but Martinez is vulnerable to heavy pressure fighters like Pacquiao. Martinez was stopped earlier in his career by Antonio Margarito.
Mayweather should fight Paul Williams
December 31st, 2009
By Dave Lahr: Due to the contract difficulties between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, it’s looking like their March 13th bout won’t be happening now. Although there is still work being done behind the scenes to try and save the mega fight, it won’t be possible without either Mayweather or Pacquiao giving in about the random blood tests. Barring one of the sides giving in, Pacquiao could be facing WBA light middleweight champion Yuri Foreman next instead of Mayweather.
However, that still would leave Mayweather in search of a replacement opponent. There has been talk of fringe contender Matthew Hatton as an opponent for Mayweather. However, boxing fans have been mostly negative towards that fight, criticizing Hatton as being too inexperienced and limited for Mayweather to fight at this point. The fighter that Mayweather needs to be going after is Paul Williams.
That’s a fight that would be a real interest for boxing fans, and it would help Mayweather’s legacy in a big way. Mayweather, 32, has slowed down in taking on tougher fighters in his own weight class since beating Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir in 2006. Mayweather has fought Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Juan Manuel Marquez since then. Those are all good fighters, but the ones that many boxing fans wanted to see Mayweather fight – Paul Williams, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarito – have gone largely ignored by Mayweather.
But by taking on the 6’1” Williams, Mayweather would make a real impact on quieting his critics and creating a nice fight to replace the Pacquiao bout. For those who say that Williams isn’t a welterweight, I would remind them that Williams only recently moved up to the light middleweight division to seek out bigger fights because he wasn’t getting the bout at welterweight. Williams has said recently that he plans on moving back down to the welterweight division after beating light middleweight Sergio Martinez by a 12 round decision on December 5th.
Williams would be a tough opponent for Mayweather, because of his punch output and long arms. But I think Mayweather could beat Williams if he was willing to work hard in the fight and throw enough punches. It wouldn’t be a cake walk like his fight against lightweight Juan Manuel Marquez, though. Mayweather would most certainly take a lot of punishment in the fight and would have to fight his heart out to get the win.
He wouldn’t be able to just pot shot and run all night long and expect to win with ease like he did against the smaller, slower Marquez. Williams would be on Mayweather and would cause him a lot of problems with his reach and nonstop punches. But this is a fight that would really enhance Mayweather’s resume, because he hasn’t really done much in the past three years aside from fighting smaller fighters.
Do I think that Mayweather would fight Williams? No, I don’t. I wish he would, but given his recent history of fighting bouts against smaller opponents, I think he wouldn’t get anywhere near Williams. That’s too bad, because it would be a great fight and well worth watching if he can’t work out his differences with Pacquiao.
December 31st, 2009
By Dave Lahr: Due to the contract difficulties between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, it’s looking like their March 13th bout won’t be happening now. Although there is still work being done behind the scenes to try and save the mega fight, it won’t be possible without either Mayweather or Pacquiao giving in about the random blood tests. Barring one of the sides giving in, Pacquiao could be facing WBA light middleweight champion Yuri Foreman next instead of Mayweather.
However, that still would leave Mayweather in search of a replacement opponent. There has been talk of fringe contender Matthew Hatton as an opponent for Mayweather. However, boxing fans have been mostly negative towards that fight, criticizing Hatton as being too inexperienced and limited for Mayweather to fight at this point. The fighter that Mayweather needs to be going after is Paul Williams.
That’s a fight that would be a real interest for boxing fans, and it would help Mayweather’s legacy in a big way. Mayweather, 32, has slowed down in taking on tougher fighters in his own weight class since beating Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir in 2006. Mayweather has fought Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Juan Manuel Marquez since then. Those are all good fighters, but the ones that many boxing fans wanted to see Mayweather fight – Paul Williams, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarito – have gone largely ignored by Mayweather.
But by taking on the 6’1” Williams, Mayweather would make a real impact on quieting his critics and creating a nice fight to replace the Pacquiao bout. For those who say that Williams isn’t a welterweight, I would remind them that Williams only recently moved up to the light middleweight division to seek out bigger fights because he wasn’t getting the bout at welterweight. Williams has said recently that he plans on moving back down to the welterweight division after beating light middleweight Sergio Martinez by a 12 round decision on December 5th.
Williams would be a tough opponent for Mayweather, because of his punch output and long arms. But I think Mayweather could beat Williams if he was willing to work hard in the fight and throw enough punches. It wouldn’t be a cake walk like his fight against lightweight Juan Manuel Marquez, though. Mayweather would most certainly take a lot of punishment in the fight and would have to fight his heart out to get the win.
He wouldn’t be able to just pot shot and run all night long and expect to win with ease like he did against the smaller, slower Marquez. Williams would be on Mayweather and would cause him a lot of problems with his reach and nonstop punches. But this is a fight that would really enhance Mayweather’s resume, because he hasn’t really done much in the past three years aside from fighting smaller fighters.
Do I think that Mayweather would fight Williams? No, I don’t. I wish he would, but given his recent history of fighting bouts against smaller opponents, I think he wouldn’t get anywhere near Williams. That’s too bad, because it would be a great fight and well worth watching if he can’t work out his differences with Pacquiao.
I said this a long time ago. Paul Williams would punish Mayweather.
Floyd is a great inside fighter, but he simply won't be able to roll and slip that many punches and not lose rounds. He would get hit, a lot. He would be forced to open up, and actually throw punches, or lose rounds by getting outworked.
But like that author said, Floyd will have no parts of that. Bring on Matthew Hatton!
Floyd is a great inside fighter, but he simply won't be able to roll and slip that many punches and not lose rounds. He would get hit, a lot. He would be forced to open up, and actually throw punches, or lose rounds by getting outworked.
But like that author said, Floyd will have no parts of that. Bring on Matthew Hatton!
Pacquiao's Lawyer: The Defendants Have Zero Evidence
By Rick Reeno and Robert Morales
The news traveled fast on Wednesday. WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao made good on his promise to file a lawsuit against the Mayweathers [Floyd Jr, Floyd Sr and Roger], Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer. Pacquiao filed the lawsuit in Nevada federal court on December 30. He claims the named defendants made false and defamatory statements that accused him of taking performance enhancing drugs. Pacquiao retained Daniel Petrocelli of the Los Angeles-based law firm of O'Melveny & Myers LLP.
Petrocelli told BoxingScene.com that none of the named defendants had any evidence to back up their claims, and they knew the statements were false, but still made them to spite Pacquiao and tarnish his reputation. Petrocelli will pursue millions of dollars in damages on behalf of Pacquiao [$75,000 is the minimum amount that a plaintiff has to allege in order to initiate a suit in Nevada federal court].
"There is no basis for making these public statements and Manny Pacquiao has had an unblemished reputation," Petrocelli said to BoxingScene. "There is zero evidence that he has taken any performance enhancing drugs and we believe that people making those statements knew very well they were false."
"They had no right to try and destroy a reputation that has come through years and years of hard work. Manny Pacquiao is one of the hardest-working athletes of our time. He trains hard, he prepares hard, he is a national hero in the Philippines. His life extends beyond sports and there is no way he could sit by and let these false charges of cheating go unanswered
By Rick Reeno and Robert Morales
The news traveled fast on Wednesday. WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao made good on his promise to file a lawsuit against the Mayweathers [Floyd Jr, Floyd Sr and Roger], Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer. Pacquiao filed the lawsuit in Nevada federal court on December 30. He claims the named defendants made false and defamatory statements that accused him of taking performance enhancing drugs. Pacquiao retained Daniel Petrocelli of the Los Angeles-based law firm of O'Melveny & Myers LLP.
Petrocelli told BoxingScene.com that none of the named defendants had any evidence to back up their claims, and they knew the statements were false, but still made them to spite Pacquiao and tarnish his reputation. Petrocelli will pursue millions of dollars in damages on behalf of Pacquiao [$75,000 is the minimum amount that a plaintiff has to allege in order to initiate a suit in Nevada federal court].
"There is no basis for making these public statements and Manny Pacquiao has had an unblemished reputation," Petrocelli said to BoxingScene. "There is zero evidence that he has taken any performance enhancing drugs and we believe that people making those statements knew very well they were false."
"They had no right to try and destroy a reputation that has come through years and years of hard work. Manny Pacquiao is one of the hardest-working athletes of our time. He trains hard, he prepares hard, he is a national hero in the Philippines. His life extends beyond sports and there is no way he could sit by and let these false charges of cheating go unanswered
Pacquiao Issues Gag Order To Team Members on Lawsuit
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
Pound-for-pound king and the acknowledged “Hero of Asia” Manny Pacquiao wants Team Pacquiao members to refrain from making any comments on the allegations of his using performance-enhancing drugs or the lawsuit filed by crack lawyer Daniel Petrocelli against the Mayweathers, Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer.
Pacquiao who is known for his humility in the face of adverse comments told us when the accusations about using performance-enhancing drugs first came out that he didn’t wish to dignify such unsubstantiated allegations and give the Mayweathers and Golden Boy the publicity and attention they were looking for.
Never an aggressive or abrasive individual outside the ring, every fighter who has met Pacquiao in the ring in the past such as David Diaz, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto and even De La Hoya have commended Pacquiao for his humility and his refusal to put his opponents down or engage in trash talk.
It was only recently when the baseless allegations continued to be repeated in public that he got terribly upset and saying enough is enough directed Arum to ask his lawyers to file a lawsuit.
Now that the lawsuit has been filed Pacquiao’s adviser Michael Koncz told us that “some of the statements attributed to Manny in the recent past by media were either inaccurate or misunderstood and from now on Pacquiao has no more comments to make on the allegations or the lawsuit itself and this applies to all members of Team Pacquiao “
Koncz informed BoxingScene.com, insidesports.ph, Standard Today and Viva Sports that Pacquiao “ has instructed us that any and all questions on the issue of performance-enhancing drugs or steroids and the lawsuit should be directed to Atty. Petrocelli. “
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
Pound-for-pound king and the acknowledged “Hero of Asia” Manny Pacquiao wants Team Pacquiao members to refrain from making any comments on the allegations of his using performance-enhancing drugs or the lawsuit filed by crack lawyer Daniel Petrocelli against the Mayweathers, Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer.
Pacquiao who is known for his humility in the face of adverse comments told us when the accusations about using performance-enhancing drugs first came out that he didn’t wish to dignify such unsubstantiated allegations and give the Mayweathers and Golden Boy the publicity and attention they were looking for.
Never an aggressive or abrasive individual outside the ring, every fighter who has met Pacquiao in the ring in the past such as David Diaz, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto and even De La Hoya have commended Pacquiao for his humility and his refusal to put his opponents down or engage in trash talk.
It was only recently when the baseless allegations continued to be repeated in public that he got terribly upset and saying enough is enough directed Arum to ask his lawyers to file a lawsuit.
Now that the lawsuit has been filed Pacquiao’s adviser Michael Koncz told us that “some of the statements attributed to Manny in the recent past by media were either inaccurate or misunderstood and from now on Pacquiao has no more comments to make on the allegations or the lawsuit itself and this applies to all members of Team Pacquiao “
Koncz informed BoxingScene.com, insidesports.ph, Standard Today and Viva Sports that Pacquiao “ has instructed us that any and all questions on the issue of performance-enhancing drugs or steroids and the lawsuit should be directed to Atty. Petrocelli. “
HBO's Larry Merchant Thinks Manny Pacquiao is Clean
By Mark Vester
HBO's expert boxing analyst Larry Merchant doesn't see anything that would make him think that Manny Pacquiao is using any performance enhancing drugs. The debate over the legit nature of Pacquiao's performances has come up in the big mess involving the dispute over the cut-off date for random Olympic style drug tests for a March fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr.
"I see no indications that Pacquiao is anything but an exceptional, elite fighter. There are many precedents in boxing of smaller fighters to move up in weight division and be successful later in their careers. Oscar De La Hoya himself started out as a 130-pound titleholder and wound up fighting middleweights which is 30 pounds north of that. It seems like its some sort of ploy," Merchant told USA Today.
Merchant thinks Mayweather's demand for random blood tests was a mental game that exploded out of his control and has now buried the fight.
"I thought it was just some gamesmanship by Mayweather who has a certain talent for mind games with opponents, creating conflict to help promote events. It appears that it has spiraled out of control. I couldn't imagine why. First of all, since he thinks he's going to win the fight and second of all because he's going to make upwards of 30 million or 40 million dollars, how could you take it seriously?" - Merchant said.
"They seem serious about it. Almost as if they were saying Pacquiao can't be this good on his own. Now it's seems like it's a bloodbath. There's no precedent for fighters who have already decided how to divide the money then find issues that would break up a huge event. It's hard to take seriously even if it appears to be serious."
By Mark Vester
HBO's expert boxing analyst Larry Merchant doesn't see anything that would make him think that Manny Pacquiao is using any performance enhancing drugs. The debate over the legit nature of Pacquiao's performances has come up in the big mess involving the dispute over the cut-off date for random Olympic style drug tests for a March fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr.
"I see no indications that Pacquiao is anything but an exceptional, elite fighter. There are many precedents in boxing of smaller fighters to move up in weight division and be successful later in their careers. Oscar De La Hoya himself started out as a 130-pound titleholder and wound up fighting middleweights which is 30 pounds north of that. It seems like its some sort of ploy," Merchant told USA Today.
Merchant thinks Mayweather's demand for random blood tests was a mental game that exploded out of his control and has now buried the fight.
"I thought it was just some gamesmanship by Mayweather who has a certain talent for mind games with opponents, creating conflict to help promote events. It appears that it has spiraled out of control. I couldn't imagine why. First of all, since he thinks he's going to win the fight and second of all because he's going to make upwards of 30 million or 40 million dollars, how could you take it seriously?" - Merchant said.
"They seem serious about it. Almost as if they were saying Pacquiao can't be this good on his own. Now it's seems like it's a bloodbath. There's no precedent for fighters who have already decided how to divide the money then find issues that would break up a huge event. It's hard to take seriously even if it appears to be serious."
Pacquiao "Dirty Test" Penalties Blasted By Arum
By Rick Reeno
Top Rank's Bob Arum was steaming mad when BoxingScene.com spoke to him on Wednesday, and informed him of an interesting piece of information that was running in the morning edition of the New York Daily News .
A source with knowledge of the Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. negotiations told veteran boxing writer Tim Smith that Pacquiao's representatives asked Golden Boy Promotions what penalties the Filipino fighter would face if he took a drug test and it came back dirty. It doesn't end there. The source further claimed that Pacquiao's representatives made a request for a dirty test result to be "kept secret" in order to avoid a negative impact on the fight promotion.
According to Arum, the information provided to Smith was a complete fabrication. Top Rank and Pacquiao's Team had never made those requests in any shape or form, says Arum. He views it as false information being planted in the media to hurt Pacquiao's credibility.
"That's bulls**t. That's total bulls**t. That never happened. It's all bulls**t. I never heard anything like that in my life, ever. We're done with this. They are a bunch of real sleazebags. We're going to move on and let them move on and go back into their holes," Arum told BoxingScene.com.
As of Wednesday, no agreement has been reached for a cut-off date on the random Olympic-style drug tests, which at the moment is the only issue holding up the fight. Arum is already in the process of exploring other options for Pacquiao in March. WBA junior middleweight champion Yuri Foreman is a serious option. Former 140-pound champion Paulie Malignaggi is another option. In reality, Arum agrees that Mayweather-Pacquiao may need additional time to properly promote. The fight is being negotiated for March 13, and January is already upon us. He told BoxingScene the option of fighting Mayweather at a later date in the year is possible.
"I don't [think it will happen]. I really don't, but that's my opinion. I washed my hands of the whole f**king thing. It's impossible and it's not going to happen...at least right now. Everybody should move on with their lives," Arum said.
By Rick Reeno
Top Rank's Bob Arum was steaming mad when BoxingScene.com spoke to him on Wednesday, and informed him of an interesting piece of information that was running in the morning edition of the New York Daily News .
A source with knowledge of the Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. negotiations told veteran boxing writer Tim Smith that Pacquiao's representatives asked Golden Boy Promotions what penalties the Filipino fighter would face if he took a drug test and it came back dirty. It doesn't end there. The source further claimed that Pacquiao's representatives made a request for a dirty test result to be "kept secret" in order to avoid a negative impact on the fight promotion.
According to Arum, the information provided to Smith was a complete fabrication. Top Rank and Pacquiao's Team had never made those requests in any shape or form, says Arum. He views it as false information being planted in the media to hurt Pacquiao's credibility.
"That's bulls**t. That's total bulls**t. That never happened. It's all bulls**t. I never heard anything like that in my life, ever. We're done with this. They are a bunch of real sleazebags. We're going to move on and let them move on and go back into their holes," Arum told BoxingScene.com.
As of Wednesday, no agreement has been reached for a cut-off date on the random Olympic-style drug tests, which at the moment is the only issue holding up the fight. Arum is already in the process of exploring other options for Pacquiao in March. WBA junior middleweight champion Yuri Foreman is a serious option. Former 140-pound champion Paulie Malignaggi is another option. In reality, Arum agrees that Mayweather-Pacquiao may need additional time to properly promote. The fight is being negotiated for March 13, and January is already upon us. He told BoxingScene the option of fighting Mayweather at a later date in the year is possible.
"I don't [think it will happen]. I really don't, but that's my opinion. I washed my hands of the whole f**king thing. It's impossible and it's not going to happen...at least right now. Everybody should move on with their lives," Arum said.
Foreman's Manager: "Yuri Will Be Too Much For Pacquiao"
By Mark Vester
Murray Wilson, says WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao will bite off more than he can chew if he steps in the ring with WBA junior middleweight champion Yuri Foreman. There are heavy talks going on for Foreman to replace Floyd Mayweather Jr. as Pacquiao's March opponent. Murray says a preliminary agreement has been reached with Top Rank to face Pacquiao on March 20.
He doesn't think Pacquiao will be that much of a force at 154-pounds against Foreman. Murray says Foreman is too big. He does have a big advantage in height, reach and size. Foreman is bigger than Oscar De La Hoya, the biggest man on Pacquiao's resume but that fight was held at 147 and De La Hoya drained himself to make the weight. Foreman would come to the ring weighing at least 160-pounds or more.
"We reached an agreement for Pacquiao to face Foreman. Originally we wanted to have it on March 13, but (Floyd) Mayweather, Jr. has that date booked with the MGM Grand. So we are looking at March 20. We still have to settle some things, but we will definitely not have blood tests done on either of the two fighters," Wilson told Primera Hora.
"It will be a tough fight. I believe that Manny is heading into the unknown. It will not be easy against a man who will hydrate up to 160 pounds by the time of the fight. I think it will be too much for him (Pacquiao)."
By Mark Vester
Murray Wilson, says WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao will bite off more than he can chew if he steps in the ring with WBA junior middleweight champion Yuri Foreman. There are heavy talks going on for Foreman to replace Floyd Mayweather Jr. as Pacquiao's March opponent. Murray says a preliminary agreement has been reached with Top Rank to face Pacquiao on March 20.
He doesn't think Pacquiao will be that much of a force at 154-pounds against Foreman. Murray says Foreman is too big. He does have a big advantage in height, reach and size. Foreman is bigger than Oscar De La Hoya, the biggest man on Pacquiao's resume but that fight was held at 147 and De La Hoya drained himself to make the weight. Foreman would come to the ring weighing at least 160-pounds or more.
"We reached an agreement for Pacquiao to face Foreman. Originally we wanted to have it on March 13, but (Floyd) Mayweather, Jr. has that date booked with the MGM Grand. So we are looking at March 20. We still have to settle some things, but we will definitely not have blood tests done on either of the two fighters," Wilson told Primera Hora.
"It will be a tough fight. I believe that Manny is heading into the unknown. It will not be easy against a man who will hydrate up to 160 pounds by the time of the fight. I think it will be too much for him (Pacquiao)."
Miguel Cotto: "Pacquiao's Refusal Raises Questions"
By Mark Vester
Former two-division champion Miguel Cotto does not understand why Manny Pacquiao is refusing to accept Floyd Mayweather Jr's terms for random Olympic-style drug testing to be in place for their March 13 fight. Cotto was stopped by Pacquiao last month in Las Vegas. In a statement sent to BoxingScene.com, Cotto said Pacquiao should agree to the requested tests to eliminate any doubts about his talents. He feels that Pacquiao's refusal to take unrestricted tests will create questions among the public.
"I am in complete awe with Manny's reaction to this matter. He has always been a great athlete and a gentleman. Why in the world would he require restrictions or conditions for the tests? It is a golden opportunity for him to dissipate all worldwide rumors surrounding his figure and the use of enhancement drugs. His refusal to commit to the tests without conditions raises questions," Cotto said.
Cotto wants Olympic-style drug testing to be in place for every boxing fight and not just Pacquiao-Mayweather. And if Mayweather or anyone else asked Cotto to take those type of tests, he would take them without hesitation.
"Olympic type drug testing is the most efficient tool for the sport to secure fair play. My recommendation to all boxing authorities in the world is to implement it across the board. I would agree to it without hesitation or reservations. It is the only way to ensure that the outcome of a bout is the strict result of conditioning and ability. To magnify your talent with drugs is repulsive," Cotto said.
By Mark Vester
Former two-division champion Miguel Cotto does not understand why Manny Pacquiao is refusing to accept Floyd Mayweather Jr's terms for random Olympic-style drug testing to be in place for their March 13 fight. Cotto was stopped by Pacquiao last month in Las Vegas. In a statement sent to BoxingScene.com, Cotto said Pacquiao should agree to the requested tests to eliminate any doubts about his talents. He feels that Pacquiao's refusal to take unrestricted tests will create questions among the public.
"I am in complete awe with Manny's reaction to this matter. He has always been a great athlete and a gentleman. Why in the world would he require restrictions or conditions for the tests? It is a golden opportunity for him to dissipate all worldwide rumors surrounding his figure and the use of enhancement drugs. His refusal to commit to the tests without conditions raises questions," Cotto said.
Cotto wants Olympic-style drug testing to be in place for every boxing fight and not just Pacquiao-Mayweather. And if Mayweather or anyone else asked Cotto to take those type of tests, he would take them without hesitation.
"Olympic type drug testing is the most efficient tool for the sport to secure fair play. My recommendation to all boxing authorities in the world is to implement it across the board. I would agree to it without hesitation or reservations. It is the only way to ensure that the outcome of a bout is the strict result of conditioning and ability. To magnify your talent with drugs is repulsive," Cotto said.
Mayweather wont fight anyone. He said today he'll "NEVER" fight Shane Mosley either cuz he "isn't a draw" and is "never on PPV" when asked if he'll fight the winner of shane vs berto. So who the fuck is Floyd going to fight if not pacquiao? His options are pretty damn slim. No Paul Williams, no Mosley, no Clottey (and any Top Rank fighter)...I just don't get him. Shane Mosley is the next biggest name possible and that isn't good enough for Floyd, so I have absolutely no clue what he's going to do if this fight falls through. He might as well retire because apparently no one is good enough for him.
^ Its funny how people act like he just started not liking blood tests. No one besides Manny can say whether or not he is physically affected by having blood taken from him close to fight night.
But obviously, it was a traumatic enough experience overall, especially with the outcome of the fight, and how he felt he performed...that he would not want to subject himself to that again.
Why is this so hard to understand for some people?
I don't know about anyone else, but if I wanted to cement my place as the greatest fighter on the planet, and the greatest of my generation, I'd want to make sure my opponent was at 100%, so that there would be no question on who the better man is.
Floyd obviously could care less, and will take a win any way that he can. Seems like a plan to gain an edge completely backfired on Team Mayweather. Now, not only do they not get the big money pay day, but they have a lawsuit to deal with as well.
But obviously, it was a traumatic enough experience overall, especially with the outcome of the fight, and how he felt he performed...that he would not want to subject himself to that again.
Why is this so hard to understand for some people?
I don't know about anyone else, but if I wanted to cement my place as the greatest fighter on the planet, and the greatest of my generation, I'd want to make sure my opponent was at 100%, so that there would be no question on who the better man is.
Floyd obviously could care less, and will take a win any way that he can. Seems like a plan to gain an edge completely backfired on Team Mayweather. Now, not only do they not get the big money pay day, but they have a lawsuit to deal with as well.