Bob Arum Tells Floyd Mayweather, Schaefer: "Go To Hell!"

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Pacquiao-Malignaggi to be on PPV: Wouldn’t pay a penny to see it

y Peter Wells: With Pacquiao-Mayweather looking in serious trouble, Bob Arum has picked one of the worst opponents he could have picked for Manny. I feel sorry for Manny to be honest because this is exactly what happened to Oscar and Floyd with Arum. Pacquiao won’t get any credit for beating Malignaggi, and his haters will just have more reason to hate. Arum knew that Tim Bradley was willing to step in, and that would have been a very interesting fight, but no, he goes for Malignaggi. No disrespect to Paulie, but he’s lost to Hatton and Cotto, both whom Pacquiao stopped. It is a complete mismatch and a fight Pacquiao couldn’t retire on. I know that he couldn’t fight Mosley on this date, but a fight for the summer would be a great day for boxing, much better than Pacquiao-Mayweather.

The question is now, what will Floyd do? He has plenty of money so he doesn’t need another super pay day and does have any love for the sport anymore. If he does then I would suggest he fights Shane Mosley, and then winner can take Pacquiao, that’s as long as the winner is Mosley.

The recent news that Pacquiao-Malignaggi will be on PPV is a complete joke, who is going to pay for this, ok diehard Pacquiao and Malignaggi fans would, but we all know what the outcome will be – a short massacre. What has Pacquiao got to be worried about here? If Malignaggi does cause the upset of the century and somehow beat Manny, it’ll ruin everything for Pacquiao, like look at all the criticism Lennox Lewis has got since he was introduced to the Hall of Fame. People saying how can he be in the Hall of Fame when he lost to Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall. So Pacquiao losing or not getting a good performance against Malignaggi would be a big glitch in his fantastic career.
 
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Yeah, see that's the thing. Team Mayweather was unwilling to compromise whatsoever, which IMO, tells me that they either don't want the fight, or they want the fight under terms that would mentally weaken their opponent.

Which makes sense being that they totally took a shit on whole 'catch weight' thing with Marquez.

Team Pacquiao was willing to go above and beyond what was required by the only people who mattered, the NSAC, without risking having their fighter coming into the anything less than 100%.


A lot of people are talking shit about the fact that physically, it doesn't do harm to you having some blood taken out, but obviously its more mental for Pacquiao than anything, and going into any big fight, let alone the biggest fight in the sport's history, why would you not want to go into the fight at 100% both physically and mentally?


Kinda sucks that Plan B was Paulie...but LOL @ Mayweather's plan B being Matthew Hatton. :dead:
 
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Releasing the Skeletons in Mayweather’s Closet

By Giancarlo Malinconico: Floyd Mayweather’s insecurities began reaching the surface following his first bout with Jose Luis Castillo. Up until that point, Floyd would not dodge an opponent. He dismantled the dangerous Diego Corrales at 130 pounds. But after he was overmatched by Castillo at 135 pounds in their first encounter, Mayweather would begin to pick and choose his battles to ensure he would remain undefeated. Although he “defeated” Castillo in their rematch by a close decision, many questioned that victory as they did the first bout.

Mayweather would eventually move up to 140 pounds, but would avoid Kostya Tszyu and Ricky Hatton. After facing “Chop Chop” Corley, he would face Puerto Rico’s Henry Bruseles instead of Puerto Rico’s Miguel Cotto, even though he and Miguel were both under contract with Top Rank. After beating an exciting but overrated Arturo Gatti (Rest in Peace), he would move up to welterweight to challenge a Kostya Tszyu-knockout victim, Sharmba Mitchell. Afterwards, he would square-off against Zab Judah who had just been defeated by journeyman Carlos Baldomir. After surviving Judah, Floyd would take less money and meet Baldomir instead of Antonio Margarito. Perhaps Floyd saw Margarito as a true welterweight-version of Castillo.

Mayweather would then face a middle-aged Oscar De La Hoya, and barely escape the contest with a split-decision. Not to mention, many online-website polls showed fans believed De La Hoya had won. Nevertheless, Mayweather would next face Ricky Hatton at welterweight. It was clear, however, after his battle with Luis Collazo, Ricky was not cut out for the 147 pound division. After “Money” soundly defeated Ricky, he retired, avoiding a rematch with De La Hoya and a possible bout with then-undefeated Miguel Cotto.

Mayweather would return. And Floyd wanted to return to the sport so anxiously that he could not wait one more day until after the Pacquiao-Hatton bout– he had to face Juan Manuel Marquez right away because Marquez “called him out”. Had Floyd forgotten there was a true welterweight available who had just destroyed Margarito named Shane Mosley? But Floyd would face the 135-pound kingpin, Marquez, force him to move up to a catch weight of 144 pounds and still came in two pounds overweight.

And after witnessing Pacquiao dominate Cotto, Mayweather seems to be ducking Manny more than he ducked a Castillo trilogy and matches with Margarito and Mosley combined. The blood-test demand by Mayweather is a sham. Pacquiao has agreed to three blood tests including one immediately following the clash, which would be sufficient. The fact that Mayweather believes the Pac Man needs to be tested extensively is reason to believe that he is alarmed of the Filipino icon. If Mayweather does not reach contractual terms with Pacquiao, he will go down in history, if he remains undefeated, not as a Rocky Marciano, but as the American version of Sven Ottke, someone who had the chance to fight top-notch competition but did not. Although Mayweather has faced better opposition than Ottke, he can never be thought off as the “greatest of all time”, if he ducks a match up with the man considered the greatest pound for pound fighter of his era. It would be like “Sugar” Ray Leonard not facing Thomas “Hitman” Hearns, or Muhammad Ali not fighting George Foreman. Memo to Floyd: If you want to be considered the “Greatest of All Time”, then sign to fight Pacquiao. And if you’re clearly victorious, then you can say you belong in the same conversation with Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano and Muhammad Ali.

(But when it comes to Manny Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather, I see the fight turning out similar to the first four rounds of Floyd’s bout with Judah and the second half of his first fight with Castillo.)
 
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BOB ARUM: BLAMES SCHAEFER AND "THAT CREEP OSCAR" FOR POISONING MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO

By G. Leon

"Our position is really straight forward and there's no way in hell they're not going to accept our position. This has never before happened in boxing, let alone Nevada. Let's leave it to the Nevada Commission and let them take over the governing of the event."

GL: To be clear, if this fight doesn't happen under the full jurisdiction of the NSAC as every fight before it, then it's just not going to happen.

Bob Arum: "Absolutely! Who are we, the fighters to make the rules? We've got a Commission, let them make the rules. If you want to come before the Commission and ask them for additional tests for both fighters, you want to test them going into the ring, in the ring, whatever you want to do, you're the Commission tell us. As far as I'm concerned the Nevada Commission are boxing people. They'll make the rules that will protect the fighters and we'll get all this silly stuff done and over with."

GL: As a boxing guy reading between the lines, it seems to me that you're not so subtly telling the Mayweather camp where they can go and this is what they get for overplaying their hand because they basically had all of their concessions and decided to go public and accuse Manny...

BA: (cutting in) "Exactly. Let's do this the right way. Manny Pacquiao is 100% an honest kid. He's never cheated and virtually every doctor except for this guy from USADA says you can determine everything from urine analysis. People in that organization hate that guy that has been a loudmouth. Ask him how many blood tests there were from 29 days before the Olympics until after the competition was over. YOu know what the answer is? ZERO. If they didn't do any blood tests until after the athlete competed what the hell are they talking about? What are we trying to subject these fighters to?"

GL: And this isn't a position your going to bend on, it's just take it or leave it at this point.

BA: "Absolutely. Not particularly when we found out that in his office Schaefer told Ron Nathanielz that Pacquiao was a cheat, that he was taking drugs and so forth. And his dialogue with this creep from the USADA started in September. We have evidence of that, we have all of the inside stuff. This is a whole campaign on his and that creep Oscar's part to smear Pacquiao because he chose us over them. I'll bet you all the money in the world, I don't know this for a fact, but this whole idea was put in their ear by Schaefer."

GL: For somebody who allowed Todd duBoef to take the lead, you seem to be telling everyone what it is.

BA: "Well, once I saw what was happening, I said to myself, I'm going to get emotional about this, let's see if Todd, who is cooler can salvage this and play along with them. I'll show you the documents, when they put this in the documents, I immediately crossed it out and when we returned our contract to them it didn't include that clause."

GL: Do you think boxing needs better standards for testing?

BA: "I think there should be more pre-fight testing with urine analysis, but our doctors and experts tell us that every single thing that can be picked up in blood, is better picked up in urine analysis. The only reason they do the blood after the guy competes is because they freeze the blood and it stays good for eight years, the urine decomposes after a while. If they want to take blood after the fight, if they want to freeze it fine, who gives a shit? But that's why there's no blood testing until after the competition at the Olympics and that's something this scumbag never said."

GL: What's the Mayweather camp's deadline?

BA: "On Monday we're going to make a deal with Lou and Malignaggi and we're going to put a deal together with the same kind of procedures in place for Manny's next fight, and that'll shut up Malignaggi also. He's been keeping quiet now because he doesn't want to blow a fight, but that's fine. Either way, I'm sure he'll be satisfied."

GL: Considering some of his opinions, some are surprised you chose that direction.

BA: "Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but what the fuck is everybody talking about? He was 135 for Diaz, 142 for De La HOya, 138 for Hatton and 143 for Cotto. Where is the difference in weight? He's been virtually the same weight for the last two years."

GL: If Mayweather and Pacquiao is salvaged, are you disappointed at the black cloud that has already been cast above the promotion? Isn't this a black eye on an event that should have been absolutely positive?

BA: "I think you're absolutely right, but I think our litigation will proceed in any event. Our major litigation is against Golden Boy for the promotional rights of Pacquiao and that's about to go bye-bye."

GL: Golden Boy still makes money on Pacquiao fights, yes?

BA: "Yes, but we're going before the arbitrator to get that removed and that's going to cost them millions of dollars. And that includes the profit that they would have gotten from the Cotto fight, which is probably between $1.5-$2M on their end."

GL: Closing thoughts?

BA: "My closing thoughts are, this nonsense has got to stop otherwise Mayweather can pound sand. It's simple as that. We're not going to put up with this nonsense anymore. It's made a farce out of boxing. It's made a farce out of the event and it's been a calculated attempt to smear the name of Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather should know better. The only thing I can think of is, he's using this as an excuse to get out of the fight."
 
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MALIGNAGGI: IF PACQUIAO TAKES THE TEST, I'LL BECOME HIS #1 FAN

By G. Leon

GL: Lots of talk about you fighting Pacquiao if the Mayweather fight collapses. Can you give us your thoughts on this and how it came about? "I just got some phone calls and I started hearing some things and it's an exciting prospect."

GL: It's no secret that you've said some things about Pacquiao. Do you have a new position on Pacquiao? What is your opinion on the legitimacy of Manny Pacquiao fights?

Paul Malignaggi: "I gave my opinion, it's my opinion an I feel the same way. That being said, I have full confidence in the drug testing procedures of the Nevada Commission and that they will conduct the proper testing. At the end of the day, they were my observations and my opinions. Let's keep in mind that Manny Pacquiao has never failed a drug test. But there are certain things I have observed him that have led me to my opinions."

GL: Yet you're still willing to fight him, under the full jurisdiction of Vegas.

PM: "Yeah. But I just can't see how over a drug test Manny Pacquiao is going to turn down a fight with Mayweather and $40M. It's cool to have my name in the mix, but at the end of the day, how do you not fight a fight like this over a test? Look, if they can't make it happen, Manny Pacquiao will have his hands full with me. Let's not forget, I possess a style that he hasn't had to deal with yet. I can box, I can match his speed, I'm not flat-footed, and I'm a constantly improving fighter each time I fight with
Sherif Younan. But if he's on something how do you catch him if you don't do the proper testing? Listen, at the end of the day a lot of evidence shows you he could be on something. The only way you can know for sure if he gets the proper testing. The fact that he's willing to risk it all and leave a fight like this on the table makes it more fishy. I'm a pro-athlete. I'm going to put it to you like this, if I worked that hard and achieved all that in my career and people questioned the integrity that I have an how I achieved, I'd be willing to take those tests because I would want to leave no doubt that I did all this naturally. As an athlete I would be in a rush to clear my name and the fact that he's avoiding it, is the opposite of how any athlete should have reacted. Any athlete who was probably guilty would act that way in my opinion, it seems a little strange to me. It's seems a little strange to me."

GL: Strager than a 40 year old Bernard Hopkins dominating light heavyweight after 21 middleweight defenses?

PM: "But Bernard Hopkins doesn't get hit clean against monster punchers moving up in weight. Manny Pacquiao is going up in weight and he's literally walking through people. He's not a defensive specialist...

GL: (cutting in) "Other than Cotto, who did he walk though? What did he do that was so unusual?

PM: "Do you see the way the guy does anything against these big men?"

GL: De La Hoya was supposedly a dead man in the ring because he didn't gain any weight from the weigh-in.

PM: How do you know? The year before he gave Mayweather a very tough fight."

GL: That was 54 and he wasn't bone dry.

PM: "Even the David Diaz fight. Diaz is not an elite fighter, but that was a fight that Diaz fought back in. Pacquiao didn't show any extra skills, he's just walked through a bigger guy. Roy Jones kept going up in weight and outskilled guys. If he was outskilling them, to me it would be different. It's just my opinion based on what I'm seeing. This is the first guy I've ever seen been able to walk through bigger men and it seems strange to me."
 
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It's like we were teased with the thought of Pac vs Floyd so anything but that is like who really cares.
Exactly, that's where the problem is.
If the fight was originally announced as it being Paulie then people wouldn't be making that big of a deal about it, hoping Mayweather was next. It won't matter who Manny fights, if its not Floyd then it will be downgraded as not worth watching.

I'm just a fan of Malignaggi's style so I'm actually looking forward to the fight, if it happens.
 
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Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy Promotions Set The Record Straight

LOS ANGELES (December 28, 2009) . . . After a Christmas weekend filled with comments and reports related to the potential mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are issuing the following statement in order to set the record straight. Let the record be clear: Manny Pacquiao and his promoter Bob Arum are threatening to walk away from the largest fight in history..

The fact is that random blood and urine testing was one of the many deal points and was listed along with the others, such as the financial split, the weight, financial penalty for being overweight, the appointment of the foreign sales agent, the production of the marketing assets, the gloves and many more. Team Mayweather made major concessions in many of these areas and we were optimistic that Team Pacquiao would do the same as it related to the request for random blood and urine testing, which Floyd Mayweather agreed to immediately.

It is disappointing for us to see that the benefits of blood testing and the fact that many different substances and procedures can only be detected by blood testing, are still not fully understood by all.

Their "take it or leave it" approach where blood testing would stop 30 days prior to the fight unless the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) approved differently is another indication that they may not want this fight. Pacquiao's position (and as stated on his website) is. "The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight" or he is "afraid of needles" and does not feel comfortable with blood being taken closer than 30 days before the fight is another interesting point. The fact is that he did have blood taken just 14 days prior to his fight with Ricky Hatton, an event which was documented on HBO's 24/7 reality show.

Also when told that Pacquiao feels that the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) is an agent of Golden Boy Promotions-which is in and of itself a ridiculous accusation-we moved swiftly and made yet another concession by stating that we would be perfectly fine to retain another agency which would do the random urine and blood tests and jointly agree on a reasonable cutoff prior to the fight but which would still maintain the integrity of the results. Let it be clear that this procedure was declined by Pacquiao as was the proposal to bring in an independent mediator such as Sen. John McCain, a suggestion that was in fact embraced by Bob Arum, but also declined by Manny Pacquiao.

Let it be very clear that nobody from Team Mayweather or Golden Boy Promotions is accusing Pacquiao of anything. But the reality seems to be that for whatever reason Pacquiao does not want to participate in random blood testing, which has already been deemed a harmless procedure that many current athletes are subjected to prior to and during competition.

Team Mayweather and Golden Boy Promotions is still open to the earlier discussions of having both parties work out a mutually agreeable understanding of the testing, which would be conducted by a mutually agreed upon agency.

In closing Floyd Mayweather is one of the most decorated athletes boxing has ever seen and he is anxious to make this fight happen for all of the fans and sports enthusiasts that are asking for this fight to happen too. As you might have noticed Floyd has been silently watching and patiently waiting for the final details of the fight to get worked out. As Floyd has already stated he does not have a problem with the random procedure and will be under the same requirements as Pacquiao, it is simply hard for him to understand why there is reluctance on Pacquiao's part to agree to do the same.
 
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It’s up to Pacquiao to make the fight with Mayweather

By Dave Lahr: If Manny Pacquiao and his promoter Bob Arum want to get the huge money fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on March 13th, they’ll have to budge from their stance on having blood tested randomly and within the 30 day window leading up to the fight. Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer and Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe both made it clear yesterday that they won’t go along with Arum’s proposal of having the Nevada Athletic Commission decide on which kinds of drug testing methods should be used for the fight.

The reason is simple. They likely understood that the Commission wouldn’t rule in their favor. Nonetheless, the Mayweather side isn’t going to budge on their request that blood testing be random and also within the 30 day period leading to the bout. Mayweather is agreeable to random blood testing all throughout the training.

However, Pacquiao doesn’t want it that way, instead agreeing to take it next month at the fight kickoff, and then 30 days before the fight and then the next day after the bout. The blood testing weakens Pacquiao and he’s not comfortable with it. Whatever the case, it appears that Mayweather’s camp won’t budge from their stance on this issue, meaning that if this fight is to take place now – or perhaps even in the future – Pacquiao and Arum will have to give in and agree to have the blood tests take place randomly throughout the training.

It’s hard to imagine that Pacquiao and Arum will walk away from $25 million over this issue. However, it’s up to them because Mayweather isn’t comfortable without random drug testing of blood taking place during during training.
 
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Mayweather-Pacquiao: Welcome to the richest boxing soap opera

By Klaas Mabetlela: Right from the beginning, I thought March 13th was too early to effectively prepare, maximize marketing value and suck every penny available out of a mega super fight between Floyd Mayweather and World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Manny Pacquaio. I checked previous fights of this magnitude and something seemed odd right from the beginning.

It is tempting for me to say that the whole shenanigans going on are just part of the plan by both teams. It is almost impossible to plan the twists and turns we have experienced up to now, but I believe the fight was never really meant for March 13th right from the onset. The date was the beginning of the myriads of activities that surpassed even the biggest soap opera imaginable. What I will say without a shadow of the doubt is that the fight will take place sometimes in 2009.

It is a well known fact that Bob Arum and Floyd Mayweather are not hugging buddies, in fact they are purported to be genuine, mortal enemies. Mayweather wants to make Arum sweat for what is going to be his biggest promotional purse of his career, but he also knows that his side ego clash with Arum only make the fight even more intriguing. Team Mayweather also knows that Arum will use all ammunition to fight them and in so doing, expose himself to be sucker punched. The decision to jump into taking legal action when Mayweather first murmured about drugs is pure Bob Arum. Manny always projected an image of a warrior who is always talking more in the ring than anywhere else. The question is whether Arum is really fighting his fighter’s war or his own in this soap opera. There is always collateral damage when big egos are ruffled.

Arum’s own history with Floyd and some clever poking are leaving Arum exposed. Oscar De La Hoya is also in the drift to show Arum that the guard has changed and boxing business is run by new landlords. Arum on the other hand, wants to show that he cannot easily capitulate and still wants his weight to be felt. The only victim in this whole ego-war is Manny Pacquiao. He has left his career too much on the hands of others and now he is being reduced to a spectator. But do not undermine Manny’s savvy too; fighting someone like Paulie Malignaggi is not as bad as it looks. Paulie may not be remotely close to Mayweather in terms of boxing ability, but he will be the first ‘pure’ boxer for Manny to fight in years. Malignaggi is not a bad preparation under the circumstances because it gives Manny an opportunity to fight a boxer, does not provide enough risk to jeopardize the mega superfight and keeps him sharp.

Team Floyd knows that by rejecting Arum’s offer, the fans will go into an overdrive. Those who hate Floyd will increase their ammunition tenfold and hate him even more. He is being called all names as expected even the fans are starting to get rattled. On the other side, they are creating a doubt over Manny’s mystique by making this drug testing such a big deal. More fans will hate Mayweather even more for that, but there will be more interest and scrutiny into Manny’s affairs too. People are starting to wonder and it can only get worse from now onwards.

All these are excellent recipe of even a bigger fight than it already is. I personally feel that this is too much even for marketing purposes and I find it distasteful in a way. But who said that business and boxing business for that matter are for sissies?
 
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If you were the person drawing blood from Manny would you take a million dollar bribe to inject 1ML which is 1/10th of a CC (basically not really viewable by the naked eye) of a chemical that will slow him down?

I would think their concerns with drawing are the same as injecting. Mine would be...

I would seriously have to consider the million as well.
 
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Mayweather, Pacquiao Drug Tests Ordered By NSAC

By Mark Vester

According to a report on Yahoo Sports , the Nevada State Athletic Commission has ordered immediate drug tests for both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. Chairman Pat Lundvall issued the demand on Monday pursuant to the NSAC's random testing policy, which is connected to the World Anti Doping Agency’s guidelines.

The tests have nothing to do with the failed negotiations to make a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight for March 13. Yahoo Sports was told that both fighters, because they are licensed in Nevada, are subject to random urine tests. Lundvall told NSAC executive director Keith Kizer to tell the camps of Mayweather and Pacquiao that both of them will be tested by an independent company called LabCorp. Mayweather will provide his sample in Las Vegas and Pacquiao will go to an approved laboratory in the Philippines.
 
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KEITH KIZER, NSAC EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SPEAKS ON PACQUIAO-MAYWEATHER

By G. Leon

GL: Obviously you're aware of the all of the hoopla surrounding the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. Not the fight itself, rather the testing the fighters will udergo. After initially making some concessions, Arum has made it clear that he is leaving this to the Vegas Commission. As the Commissioner, can you tell us how Nevada will handle this matter? "As of right now, this is nothing different than any other fight we've had in Nevada. We'll do fight night drug testing via urine. We may, if we so choose, do in training urine tests as well. Neither side has asked us to do anything differently than that, so that's where it stands with the Nevada Athletic Commission."

GL: Does Mayweather requesting additional testing not mandated by the NSAC lead you to believe that he feels your methods of testing are prehistoric?

KK: "No. Not at all. I've talked to Leonard Ellerbe about it. That's definitely not their stance nor is it the stance they will be taking."

GL: Do you think they have any position to claim that Manny Pacquiao is on something based on what you've seen in his fights from ringside?

KK: "Nothing I've seen. No. Both of these gentleman have been successful moving up in weight and they've passed every drug test we've given them, so I'm pretty cofident they're playing by the rules, however that doesn't mean we're not going to be testing them fight night regardless of who they fight."

GL: If the fight happens, the commissions drug testing procedures would be the standard operatig procedure that has been used in countless fights before it, correct?

KK: "That's what we're using now. As with anything, any licensee can petition us to do something different. Years ago the Contender petitioned us for a smaller ring. The Commission at that time turned them down. We've had the UFC petition us to do their TV show and that petition was accepted. We've had other petitions over the years, some granted, some not. Any licensee, a fighter, promoter or both, can request that we do something additional. What the Commission would decide there would depend on the facts, the circumstances, the evidence and the five votes."

GL: Who other than yourself would vote?

KK: "I don't get a vote. I'm the director, there's five Commissioners, they would vote and majority rules."

GL: As of now have any petitions been filed?

KK: "No."

GL: Have the Mayweather people indicated that they will be filing one?

KK: "No. I've talke to Leonard Ellerbe a couple of times over the last couple of weeks and they were very positive conversations. He's always been a professional with us and nothing has changed in that regard. Whether or not he or Mr. Schaefer or anybody else on the Mayweather side of the fight would file something, you have to ask them."

GL: You weren't in charge when the De La Hoya-Mosley rematch took place, but we all know what happened with Shane following that fight. Have the standards of the commission been upgraded since then?

KK: "Well I don't think that's the correct terminology. My understanding on the clear and the cream back then, not being an expert myself, but talking to experts was, that was invented by Balco to evade the drug testing that was being done on the time. Now they have a test for the clear and the cream, and the use of it has gone way down with the experts because now you can get caught. Now you have Marion Jones getting away with that at the Olympics, but we were able to catch Fernando Vargas and Ben Johnson. I think the standards have always been the highest level of testing. However, there are people out there who have temporarily found ways to evade the drug testing. That's what these experts get paid for, to close that gap and that time between the development of a new drug and a efficient test for it.

I know HGH, they're still trying to find an efficient blood and urine test for it. There will always be that cat and mouse game. Our goal is not to catch people, but to deter them from using anything in the first place. You have to think the first deterrant is common decency. You're not just hitting a baseball further, you're hitting another human in the head harder than you should be able to. That in itself, should be enough to keep people from cheating like this. I think the congressional hearings have gone a long way in labeling these guys as losers and cheaters, whereas five years ago people would say why didn't that guy find a better way to cheat. Now they treat him Rosie Ruiz jumping on a subway in the Boston marathon. I think the public reaction more than anything else has helped these athletes realize that it's not worth it. I think a lot of athletes might have used in the past because they thought their opponent was and they weren't looking for an unfair advantage, they will looking to even the playing field.

GL: Does Pacquiao not wanting to take the additional tests seems suspicious to you or do you think it's more of who the hell are you to tell me which non-mandated tests to take?

KK: "Part of it might be the latter there, that both sides have dug in their heels pretty good based on the language used by both sides. As far as blood testing, you could have a situation where you could have bruising, you could nick a vein. I would never want to do blood testing in a locker room because it's an unsterile situation where you could have infection. Or Godforbid, they get infected with another disease because of the needle. It's a lot more dangerous than urine testing. We do require blood testing for HIV and Hepatitis B and C because that is the only efficient way to test for those viruses. And that's usually done 30 days before the fight unless somebody is a last minute sub, but those are done in a doctors office or a hospital, a sterile environment."

GL: Do you ever see USADA testing becoming the standard in boxing?

KK: "I don't know if there's much of a difference between what the USADA does and what the Nevada Commission or any other Commission does. The labs we use follow the same type of procedures. We all use the WADA list of prohibited substances."
 
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Freddie Roach: The Last Hope for Salvaging Mayweather versus Pacquiao – Breaking News

By Giancarlo Malinconico: I have been critical of all parties involved in the negotiations: Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, Top Rank and Golden Boy. But it seems to me that the proposal by team Mayweather is reasonable and fair. There is no proof that Pacquiao or Mayweather has ever taken performance-enhancing drugs. Mayweather, moreover, has especially proven his innocence with his adamant stance on random-blood testing.

Pacquiao has stated that he is a strong advocate for keeping professional boxing a drug-free sport. And by accepting Floyd’s request for random-blood sampling, he can become a role model and pioneer for boxing. As long as there is a certain, reasonable cutoff point for the blood testing, I do not see a problem. Who cares if blood testing would be setting a precedent—professional athletes ought to be subjected to random-blood testing because there are obviously substances that cannot be detected in urine. Besides, there are ways for cheaters to pass the most stringent testing (e.g. Marion Jones).

But as these negotiations have taken a turn for the worst, one man’s voice in this discussion has been missing—Freddie Roach. Roach was the one who publicly suggested a 50/50 purse split, which was agreed upon by both parties. Furthermore, Roach suggested a 5-day cutoff period for the random testing. But it seems that ever since making the suggestion, Roach has been told to remain silent. Did Bob Arum or someone from team Pacquiao silence Coach Roach?

And for Pacquiao fans who believe that random-blood testing is an insult, they should think again. We, pay-per-view purchasing costumers and boxing fans, deserve to know that our hard-earned money is going to competitors who are respecting the sport. If we can pull $54.99 out of our pockets, then there is no reason that Manny and Floyd cannot subject themselves to a few random-blood tests to ensure the integrity of the sport for the biggest matchup in boxing history.

Freddie Roach, wherever you are, why don’t reintroduce your proposal about the reasonable cutoff point for the random testing. Bob Arum continues to antagonize the situation by making ridiculous statements including an alleged conspiracy between the United States Anti-Doping Agency and Golden Boy Promotions, leaving testing up to the Nevada State Athletic Commission and plenty more. Therefore, Freddie, you’re the only voice of reason remaining to salvage this fight. Otherwise, let me be the first to state publically, I will boycott a Pacquiao/Malignaggi pay-per-view bout.

Breaking News: There is video footage of Manny Pacquiao receiving a blood test 14 days before his bout with Ricky Hatton on HBO’s 24/7. In the video, Pacquiao appears to be smiling while receiving the test. Hopefully, after the superstitious Pacquiao views this video, he will be more flexible on Mayweather’s request. According to ESPN, Bob Arum has stated the deadline (today) for closing the deal on the Mayweather versus Pacquiao bout will be extended, and Arum will notify Pacquiao of the newly discovered information in hopes of reaching an agreement on the blood testing clause of the contract.
 

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They should test both fighters 48 hours prior and then right after the fight. They should submit blood, hair, and piss samples. I don't agree with Mf's being awaken while sleeping and shit.
 
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Matthew Hatton: Golden Boy Camp Called me for a Mayweather Fight

Young Hatton on standby for Mayweather Jnr

Gavin Browne

December 29, 2009

MATTHEW Hatton has told of his shock and surprise at being linked with a possible fight against Floyd Mayweather Jnr.

Having drawn his IBO welterweight title challenge against Lovemore N'Dou, the younger Hatton found himself at the centre of speculation linking him with a Mayweather meeting.

The American had been due to fight Manny Pacquiao but that appears in doubt with rows over drug testing and possible legal action by Pacquiao against the Mayweather camp.

As a result, the rumour mill has gone into overdrive with stories that 'Magic' is in line to face Mayweather, acknowledged as the sport's pound-for-pound king and the first man to beat elder brother Ricky.

"It was very surprising to be linked with him," admitted Hatton.

"I was at a friend's party when Gareth Williams from my promotional company phoned and said that Golden Boy Promotions wanted to know if I'd be interested in fighting Floyd.

"I asked him if he was being serious but Floyd's very keen on fighting in England and they asked if I'd be up for it.

"I didn't have to think about it for one second. I think it's unlikely but if the Pacquiao fight doesn't come off I'm at the top of their list of opponents.

"I'm pretty sure things would get sorted between Floyd and Manny but Floyd's camp have been in touch two or three times with mine.

"I won't get carried away though at the prospect of fighting him in case it doesn't come off but he's the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and to share a ring with him would be amazing."

Should the Mayweather and Pacquiao camps come to an agreement, Hatton is keen on a rematch with N'Dou during 2010.

Having initially ruled out any prospect of facing N'Dou following their contentious draw, `Magic' has subsequently relented.

He said: "Ideally I'd like to fight him again because no matter what the judges say, I know I beat him on the night.

"I know I said I wouldn't travel to South Africa or Australia because I wouldn't get the decision but I know I've got the beating of him."

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